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« Reply #740 on: March 12, 2009, 12:16:11 AM »

Glacier,

Perhaps you have mis-interpreted my point on the matter regarding Marcos, which you have brought to this thread.

But let me clear this for you.

Yes, I understand that Marcos' had a substantial negative effect on families, and on the government. I never once said that I completely pardoned his actions, nor did I say I accepted such. I reiterate, I agreed with the popular consensus that he did abuse his power.

I, however, admire his intelligence, his quaint nature, and the vision he had for the country during his earlier term (prior to martial law, prior to Imelda's involvement power). I admire his positive message, I admire the faith he had in the country in his 1st term and even 2nd term.

There are certain characteristics that I admire of Ferdinand Marcos; not everything, but certain. Specific.

The man, like any other man, had his strengths, his weaknesses; the goods and the bads.

What I'm trying to share with you, and others who mis-translated my admiration for Marcos is that--I admire the President that He Could Have Been.



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« Reply #741 on: March 12, 2009, 09:12:07 AM »
 He Could Have Been[/i].



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you don't have to defend or clarify yourself to me on this matter. i know where you're coming from,  when you express your points, that are intuitive and academic.

besides, don't believe that i was referring these words (you quoted from me) to you or my misunderstanding of your position. i was simply replying simplylee's posts. in my honest self, i never implied this to any individual, let alone name names because i would be unfair to the concerned. if it does get to your nerve, it is not in my intent.

since you address this to my attention, let me just express my own. the recent ambience of the discussion of the thread on Marcos may have surprised you. for that i understand. you may have felt that you're misconstrued, no, you aren't. i think the problem is that you may have underestimated the extent and profundity of the sensitivity underneath the issue, although he's been long gone and dead. the words in your analysis and comparisons fail to do justice to the hurts and wounds left by that regime, which i always believe, is the precursor of the ills of the present state of our nation; it feels to me adding insult to injury. While your words paint an intelligent, visionary, quaint, Machiavellian, etc. sort of a man, it looks to me like a haunting shadow of a diabolical past. your admiration against the disappointment; your erudite analysis against the profound experience of many.

i wonder why that thread goes that far. in my part, there's no more point of arousing a delicate discussion when you're enjoying the benefits of exercising the brain, while i cannot without injuring the cicatrix of a wounded past. you've made the points of your admiration; i have made mine, i suppose. Yes, He Could Have Been. He could have been....And it remains that way because he never was, to me.

Me thinks this is enough of it. let's move on. God bless.
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« Reply #742 on: March 12, 2009, 09:42:49 AM »
Noted, Glacier.

Let us move on. In the spirit of Ubuntu, let our similarities unite us and build fruitful, and progressive steps.

God Bless You.

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« Reply #743 on: March 12, 2009, 09:54:47 AM »
Oy naa pod diay ka sa Fb kiam add me kay naa pod ko, heheheh bisan asa na lang ta kita ani, ang akong mang anak ang nagdani aning faceB bag-ohay pa kung nijoin. Ang nakalagot kay masuko man siya kon magbinisaya ko. Mobadlong man ingnon ko nga talk english mum. my email add is avonrep_sol@yahoo.com

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« Reply #744 on: March 12, 2009, 09:55:22 AM »
sakit akong mga mata karon.


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« Reply #745 on: March 12, 2009, 11:05:09 AM »
Lor, we all know you have the God given right. But do take care and be sensitive and dont tend to abuse it. dont reason out bad opinions to make it right for the sake of freedom?  especially if you dont know much the topic. well, your upbringing is american your from different culture!

comeback to philippines my friend and im sure you gonna enjoy your stay here in the midst of corruption, deception low morality(we know where it started, this social cancer), init, bagjo, lubak, abog, lonop ug uban pa!

 
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« Reply #746 on: March 12, 2009, 11:27:18 AM »

Will do, my friend. Take it easy.

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« Reply #747 on: March 12, 2009, 10:48:34 PM »
huhuhu wala koy load
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« Reply #748 on: March 12, 2009, 10:49:51 PM »
Di ko katulog maghuna-huna tusukan ko'g dagum kon mag donate ko'g blood!  :o
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« Reply #749 on: March 12, 2009, 10:51:07 PM »
kisa imo donatan ate?

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« Reply #750 on: March 12, 2009, 10:58:14 PM »
Sa BloodSource, Bem.  Mao unta na offering nko for my birthday and for my nephew na masakiton and also for a friend na naay cancer scare karon. I thought about it last night busa gasugod na sakit akong kuto2x sa kahadlok!  I did this na before as offering for my Mom's surgery.  Makamuot kay when I walked in, the first thing I asked was, would you take blood from somebody who wants to give blood but is scared to death to do so?  Tubag dayon nila, "oh yeah.  we'll take care of you."  They treated me like a kid aron malipat ko pag tusok, matabang!  Then I informed them that I was about to pass out.  Ingon sila, just stay with us.   :D


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« Reply #751 on: March 12, 2009, 11:14:52 PM »
dapat naa didto sila SMiffy mag lingaw lingaw sa imo te..or talk with you while gi tusok tusok naka,,

I remember my worst experience. The nurse can't find my vein. perme sayup. So what she did, while the needle was poked in my skin, she literally moved it from side to side until ma shoot sa ako vein. Fun no? I almost passed out. I never smiled at her. argh!


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« Reply #752 on: March 12, 2009, 11:19:05 PM »

ngek! atot ning bataa ni! that helps relieved my tension, bem! hahahaha

I know, kadtong gi emergency ko for ulcer bleeding, di na nila makita akong veins busa tusok2x to the max.  Of all the years na wa ko na hospital, in just 5 days, nabawi tanan to.  As in!  Nahurot na akong nerves ug kakuyap.

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« Reply #753 on: March 12, 2009, 11:20:31 PM »
hahahah! I am immaturely teasing you:)

ate uy! cute jud diay ning arakan no? (ditto)
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« Reply #754 on: March 12, 2009, 11:23:10 PM »
mao jud, bem!  ambot ba jud oi, mura'g hilapon man akong tiyan mag imagine aning dagom.  that's exactly why I can never be in medical field, granting makaya sa gastos! hahaha

you know what, bem, kadtong gamay pa ko, first time nko nkakita ug gisuksukan ug thermometer akong tita sa iyang kilikili while in the hospital, kaingon man jud nako dagum to, sus naluyahan jud ko adto.   ;D


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« Reply #755 on: March 12, 2009, 11:25:52 PM »
lagot ko kay di ko katulog 2:25 am na whoaa.

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« Reply #756 on: March 13, 2009, 04:46:41 AM »

uyy naay crush si tita.. hehe. (murag kinder) lol

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« Reply #757 on: March 13, 2009, 05:30:59 AM »
naglagot ko ky insensitive kaayo uban tao. mo ask pa gyud ngano ko. kahibaw na gnai sila ngano ko ask pa gyud


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« Reply #758 on: March 13, 2009, 08:54:19 AM »
nalipay ko ron...touched kos mga panghitabo sa akong kinabuhi sukad pa gahapon.

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« Reply #759 on: March 13, 2009, 08:57:50 AM »

good for you Glace! :)



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