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« Reply #180 on: April 08, 2009, 10:52:42 PM »
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« Reply #181 on: April 09, 2009, 05:48:14 AM »
Wed ,around 1600 hrs i had taken one power of atty to give to the Tagbilaran City police Station.

The power of the Atty. was signed by martins parents and brother in England and sent to the Atty. of Martin to exume his remains out of Vicotoria memorial Garden cemetary.

SPO4 Silvan Palacio had handed me back the power of Atty. and looked at it and would not follow the parents and the Families request to send the sons cremated remains to England.
He told me Martin's widow wants to take the matter up in court.

The investigator told me that he is relying on words of the widow of Martin, Gulle's  and the alleged accomplice borja and the alleged rapist Gulle.

I was not in any way outl of  line telling SPO4 Palacio that i persopnally find his type of investigation as very biased and to much eager to close the book and way to shallow.

Other imporortant matters to consider is how was the wife towards the husband? How was he to her as well also?
If you recall the couple is documented as seperated.

She is in province of Leyte supposedly living with someone over there.

The house in Panglao should of been sealed by investigationlal tape to keep her out and anyone else.

SPO4 Palacio was also telling me that his wife was wanting his personal property given to her right a way.
In that personal property in the affidavit is one included item of a Samsung Cellular phone and on in that phone contained a sim card shown by Martin to his freinds and I and his Atty. regarding text messages of  threats by a very well known number in his phones contact book.

In my opinion those personal belongings should of been held as evidence but do to the wifes hurreid request to retreive his items it was all returned back to her.

The good news regarding Martin"s case is that he was after all dismissed for allegations of rape due to fabricated  storeis given by the complaintants according to the judges findings.

the Tagbilaran Police have been saying all along that Martin's wife is often at the police station. Even was there to talk with the alleged suspect after he was booked incarcerated at the city jail. (also stated in affidavit of Margie Hawthorn widow of the victim Martin Williams.).


She is related to a policeman here and the former mayor of Dagahoy here Bohol.

During the first week of Martin being found murdererd she had brought several girls in the Tagbilaran police station and claiming that they were all raped by the late Martin Williams.

This was said by PNP member Daraman of the Tagbilaran City police station last Tuesday night April 7, 2009

The Wednesday edition of this weeks newspaper front page news story sais "Other suspects in slaying of British National still at large."


Martin leaves behind his very loving family in England, a daughter by his 25 year old widow Margie Hawthorn several other relatives and 100 million limousines full of good mates /freinds back home in England and in Bohol.

Happy Easter All!





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« Reply #182 on: April 09, 2009, 06:40:40 AM »
Hi Pres, thanks for the update.I think it doesn´t matter if their separation is documented, since this kind of law is vague in the Philippines especially the conjugal properties accumulated during their marriage. still qualifies the widow to claim it as her own. That is the bitter truth.

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« Reply #183 on: April 09, 2009, 07:02:47 AM »
I am sure the parents will be fighting for they're half since it was all his money put into it while they were marreid.

So it would make it 50/50 also by court of law after being contested.

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« Reply #184 on: April 09, 2009, 07:49:25 AM »
i am so deeply upset by this whole thing martin was my friend and i know that it is breaking his familys hearts to not have him home to lay him to rest and say good bye to there son ,brother, dad and uncle ... as well as truley good friend ....i keep waking up thinking it is all a bad dream and then i read more about his case ...i am truley heart broken that i will never see my friend again and feel sick with this thought . rest in peace martin you had more true friends that you could ever imagine and we will forever miss you and my loving thoughts go out to all his family and friends
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« Reply #185 on: April 09, 2009, 02:31:08 PM »
If he did not executed his last will, a document signed by a lawyer, his wife will get the whole bonanza.

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« Reply #186 on: April 09, 2009, 06:32:40 PM »
That is right to an exstent.

They were marreid and together when martin built the home worth over 10 million pesos in panglao.

Martin paid it with his own money as the wife did not work she was 22-23 years old at the time.

So his parents in England can contest for the other half inwhich they are planning to do but at present they want they're son back so that they can greive in the proper way as martin is not a permanent resident here neither is he having a double citizenship that I am aware of?

His passport as well as the baby daughter of they'res is British passport both are the the propert of Great britain and should be returned back since they were seperated and she did file the protection order on him. That's my opinion.









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« Reply #187 on: April 09, 2009, 09:30:38 PM »
You mean the ex-wife has the two passports (Martin´s and daughter)?For the daughter she can keep but for the dead husband it must be surrendered to the British consulate.


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« Reply #188 on: April 09, 2009, 11:29:18 PM »
Thank you Ms. Precious for the update.

This is really very sad incident and it adds  more to the bad Bohol reputation in which makes some tourist to give-up to spend holidays in our own Bohol. I hope for Martin's justice.  Our government must have to protect more our foreign guests, in fact, they also profitied their presence by way of establishing business there, isn't?

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« Reply #189 on: April 10, 2009, 02:21:02 AM »
I thought i would put people in the picture with regards to whats happening to martin, His parents wishes was that Martins body was to be cremated and his ashes sent home. His estranged wife arranged his funeral knowing his parents wishes . Last Saturday she planned his burial but his parents were able to stop it, but due to the fact she was still married to him and is his next of kin she was able and managed to get him buried on Tuesday gone. His parents are absolutly devastated by her actions and especailly after she rang them on the day she buried him and demanded £3700 for something they never wanted her to do. They now have a fight on there hands to get his body exhumed and his ashes brought home. The woman has no heart and her voice only ever asks for money. Shes so cold and evil.

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« Reply #190 on: April 10, 2009, 04:39:00 AM »
Steve, I´m terribly sad to hear this. The whole situation is hard to understand because Filipinas are reared to show respect especially to our in-laws. The reaction of Martin´s ex-wife is not typical for Bol-anon. Martin is dead, still hatred prevails,  truly sad.
I pray from the bottom of my heart that justice prevails.

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« Reply #191 on: April 10, 2009, 04:49:50 AM »
hofelina, thankyou for your kind words, ive honestly only ever wrote true facts. I know the true bol-anon people are some of the loveliest people in the world, as i met so many of them when me and my partner Julie stayed there in Jan. The problem is the same as we have everywhere in the world and there is always at least one bad apple to spoil it for us all. I know i cant bring my mate back, but i can try and fight for his justice and hopefully get a full investigation and the real culprut gets caught. He would do the same for me.


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« Reply #192 on: April 10, 2009, 04:51:35 AM »
Bambi,

I am just a reporter and was a freind to the victim, and his freinds.

There are people working on this case, and the NBI autopsy is still to be released from what they will find.

Let's just let England and Philipppines handle the investigations.

I strongly feel England should of been here from the beggining and the crime scene should of been taped off untill England had a chance to do their invesigation.

I also fell that the wife had no business gertting back her husbands belongs especailly as it should be marked for evidence.

No way would this have been returned to any spouse in any other normal country investigation who has been out of the other spouses picture for for sometime. it would be ussed as exhibits in court am I not right?

















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« Reply #193 on: April 10, 2009, 04:54:58 AM »
 You are so right. x

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« Reply #194 on: April 10, 2009, 05:10:12 AM »
is SPO4 Palacio not seeing the wife taking the girls to the police station to say that they were allegdly raped enough to make the police think what is her motive for doing this even after her husband is found murdered?

Hofelina is right very darn right! Hatred is showing but Palacio said he dropped her as the first suspect because she told them thAT HER AND THE INLAWS GET ALONG WELL?

WE KNOW THE REAL DEAL STEVE BUT IS IT WORTH IT SHE WANTS TO FIGHT THE REMAINS OF A MAN WHO SHE FILED PROTECTION ARDERS AGAINST?

HELLO PNP MUNTANA NGA UY!

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« Reply #195 on: April 10, 2009, 05:13:40 AM »
Pressy, you are absolutely right. The fact that the police were able to get their suspects didn´t mean that the case is solved. This is unprofessional for the investigating party. Valuable materials needed to clear the murder case might probably get lost.

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« Reply #196 on: April 10, 2009, 05:19:16 AM »
The in-laws and her are far from friends, she is an out- law not an in-law. I will never understand why she would not go along with his parents wishes, in circumstances like this who in there right mind would not do all they can to help his grieving family. ? ?

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« Reply #197 on: April 10, 2009, 05:25:35 AM »
HELLO ! ! Why is this bitch not locked up ? She would be if she lived anywhere else.


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« Reply #198 on: April 10, 2009, 05:26:40 AM »
You said it Steve, Martin is gone and she could have done a christian act of reconciliation and make peace with her in(out)-laws. How hard is her heart!

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« Reply #199 on: April 10, 2009, 05:28:47 AM »
some one who has no sole thats who steve ... there is more feeling in a block of ice .. and any one who can do what she is doing is no human being!!!



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