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yah u better go sleep patman perhaps ur drunk ....evrybody wana say something here s none of ur business ok!better u pray for martins soul f u really a good mate ok..

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Chona, i never said you or your sister is it, has deported on the passport as i dont know, ive not seen it, correction, i said she has to apply for a special visa to re enter the uk now, which according to my friend in the foreign office is a fact, the case is still an unsolved murder as all the killers are not yet apprehended, Gulle did not commit this murder on his own which is also a fact and as i said common knowledge. Why on earth do you think this forum is on going,? its to help bring real justice to this case. So i will make this my business and i dont think i need your permission to do so.

The question i ask you, seeing as you and Ning10 is the wife and/or her sister why are you not with us in helping to find out the truth. Why are you against us trying to solve this unsolved murder? If your so innocent !!

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weird!


Weird?

Weird because I question a conspiricy?

Or do you also wish to sweep it under the carpet and put it down as a random attack?

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Weird?

Weird because I question a conspiricy?

Or do you also wish to sweep it under the carpet and put it down as a random attack?

nope. am not talking about you or your posts, pat.

i just found it weird, cos, until now this thread has never outgrown its purpose.

just pray and hope there'll be justice for Martin..

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JFM ur 4getful now? read ur previous post coz its very cleared that u said that Gee has been deported in Uk, well of course we want justice for Martin as well thats what GEE2 want, but who started this allegation? we? of course not!!! so f u dont like what we post in here stop accusing GEE2 n the entire family, by the way were not the one who started this its u STEVE, JFM many 2 mention.

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i agree with u NING10 they started it, lets wait and see for the result before u accuse thats ur problem not even proven guilty u already judged them, poor people who cant say something without their knowledge they already famous here in this website. thanx to jfm n the rest who accuse the wife of martin without enough evidence.

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You just dont get it do you, you are the wife/family,and all you have done on this site is to try to justify Martins death, i can quote so many awful things you and your sister has said. Steve quoted what Martin believed and spoke as if it was on Martins behalf, others like myself do accuse you of being behind it because of your actions. You have never acted like a sad and concerned wife, youve brought this on youself.

Yes aswel you was deported, what i said is i dont know about a stamp on a passport, but to be honest things like that are quite trivial compared to being accused of being behind a murder, wouldnt you agree.?

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Your picture of the tazmanian devil, suits you fine.!
 ;D


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hey you ?dont ever involve margie here or her sister we are only her friends telling the truth what kind of person martin was evil and badly treated his wife and daughter,he offered me money for sex and told him what kind of girl do u think i am?go back to ur wife and child,but he it didnt take him long to find another girl very young in another bar,his whole life here was just sex sex sex,and he wont even pay for his baby medicine when she was sick ,he was a disgrace as a husband and a pittyful excuse of a father.thats was he is.

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thank u i appreciate it to be honest its u well suit tazmania but well he will eat u alive as far as i know u talk too much and ur beloved friends here in this site, talk more and we will talk also, about the deported issue she doesnt have a stamp that she was deported n uk, ur just creating the story old man grumpy hahaha ur pathetic ;D ;D ;D peace!!!

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Quotes of yours or your sisters is why you have brought this on yourself.

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You grieve in a strange way for your husband and the father of your child. !

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sister? hahaha sori but i dont know the sister of late martin i know gee well f thats what u think ur welcome 2 think like that.

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whatever u say but i'm not mhargie look! u already accuse me i'm mhargie how dare u! u dnt even know i'm just a citizen here who canty stand what u were saying. adios!

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jfm grumpy old man u dnt know s***e about grieving u dnt have any i dea how she grieve so talk less, less mistake as pacman said.. ;)

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ning10, i understand what ur saying to JFM he dont know what happened here when martin got killed and how gg suffered, just sit back and relax JFM like u always do ok ?be good and just wait d result., be patient n satisfy whatever it is.

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thanx! bebe justice 4 martin xx

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Good Tidings to everyone in here.

When it comes to the cell phone Inspector Palacio told me that they do not have it at the police station because Martins wife was insistant in getting it, so he said he gave it to her as she is his wife and she was no longer considered a suspet as she told the inspector that she is on good terms with her inlaws.


Maybe after she remove the sim card she could of had easily given it back over to the police. The messages to Martin were very graphic and terribly horrific as well.

So if the police do have that fone and the original sim card of Martins I could show them the messages that he held onto which many of them were alleged death threats.

But that fone and sim card as I said was not in the hands of Silvan Palacio of the inspectors on the case.

I have kept them on my phone as well as Martins thoughts that he had text to me. He always told me along with his other foreigner freinds that his murder was getting nearer and he was living in complete fear.
He talked about wanting to meet with the governor of Bohol, and said that things that were happening to him.

He mentioned in one of his text as this "Tourist police.  girls my staff. I hate this place." the number he sent it to me on is +639296985975 which is the number he would always keep me updated on. I have many messages that he had sent to me or had forwarded it and others as well I kept them as I miss him and his kindness and the way that he wanted tohelp peope in the Philippines.
It's all I have to remember my freind by is his fear he had in the final days before he was brutally killed.

Now I had read a thread in here that said Martin did not want to go to England because he was happeir with his bar girls? I think that text begs to differ it looks like he was sick of the crap happening to him as in enough was enough!

another example of a forwarded messge to me that had been sent to him "Me? twisted?ur really self conceited tuat! im here n hospital with ur daughter who has been il&leting me know ur hacker! f*** yourself mart il C U n court!"

Now let me analyze this his wife used the baby as punishment against him because she did not ever want him to see her. Now that was what he had told his attorney. You people say she loves her husband but she is not actting in any wifely manner as I can see here?

Sure she is marreid by paper and according to Martin also a legal Pre-nuptial agreement had been done between them and from what Martin said his wife was not happy about said such pre-nupts.
It must be a good feeling to be hateful and end up with very nice paid for accomodations made and paid for by a man who once really did love her but in the past few months I had spent plenty of time trying to calm down my freind from all the wives loving maliciousness and and then she has the FRICKEN AUDACITY to say that she loves him?...Please give it a break!

Is that how you show your affection to someone you love and marreid with?

She was never around to help him find his perpatrators when he was having all the previous homicide. attempts on him.

I do not know what his wife beleifs are about really loving someone and showing him in the right way and not the ways that are shown down below.

One Junrey Palinosa above accused personhad the intent to kill, with evident premeditation, treachery and superior strength, without  affording the latter an oppurtunity to defend himself, did then and there willfully, unlawfully and feloniously shoot a certain MARTIN ANDREW WILLIAMS with the use of a firearm, thus the accused had commenced the commission of the crime of Murder directly overt acts, but he could not carry put his criminal puropse of killing the victim by reason of cause other than his own spontaneous desistance, to wit: poor aim by the accused in hitting the victim and when an employee of the victim shouted to the victim to get inside the bar; to the damage and prejudiced of the victimin the amount to be proved during trial.

Acts committed contrary to the provisions of Article 248 in relation to Article 6 and 50 of the Revised Penal Code as amended.
Tagbilaran City, Bohol Philippines, March 10, 2009

Junrey was given the oppurtunity to submit controverting evidence, but he did not do so.
The court decided that there was reasonable ground to beleive that the crime of ATTEMPTED MURDER has been committed and that the above named is probably guilty thereof.

If you recall the last affidavit it was said that Ludy Vanessa Gallow identifeid the shooter as Junrey and he told her that he was hired allegedly the mastermind of said shooting but had later changed her stories with the Panglao police.

She turned around instead of being a witness in the shooting to accussing Martin of alleged rape?

The charges were dismissed as they were considered fabricated storeis from the complaintives.

I am only printing what I have and what is available to the public as open recorde to the public.









So I think it is absolutley appropriate to question the circumstances as either circumstancail, non aggravated, or accidental?




I could not help but memersize some of them as Martin would show and forward to us his freinds and family.


Yeah I see those as loviung words intended for your loved one...ahem!

Now as far as the other items listed I do not know about.

Whats on public document is stated and being held by the police are the following items.



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Thanks for the update, it goes without saying that there is a lot more sinister to this than just the capture of Gulle commiting the murder. This has to be investigated properly to bring peace to your province and justice for Martin. The others murderers and the peole who paid for the job to be done must be brought to justice also.

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justice for martin that's all we want to punish who killed him but, can we just leave it to d investigator? or u want to work like them as well? i've read what u post here n i understand that u will depend martin because his ur friend but pls. stop posting nonsense in here just leave it to d authority. peace..

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"justice for martin that's all we want to punish who killed him but, can we just leave it to d investigator? or u want to work like them as well? i've read what u post here n i understand that u will depend martin because his ur friend but pls. stop posting nonsense in here just leave it to d authority. peace.." (Quote from Ning)

Could you please be more specific in what you are refering to as nonsense?

I do not call affidavits and court resolutions and text messsages nonsense what I call nonsense is breaking and entering into a house which had changed locked and she does not or has not actted like a wife for some time and it is way longer then december as she claims it to be! Her intentions are clear to get to the gatherd evidence Martin had against her so there would be no linkages to her having to do anything that had happened to him in the past.

As i and many have said and feel Martin was damn right in how she was choreographing the every move.

It takes a real bitch of a wife to take women to the police station after one or two days after he was murdered.
Just who the hell does she think she is?
She did not care or still does not care and of course she will go after Gulle who is the fallguy in this sittuation as he could not and would not ever handle martin alone Gulle is too small and martin was large sized and to be able to do that much dammage on his own come on get real.

Martin in no way in hell would of been so stupoid to go to the boloc boloc spring in the night or any time of the day.

martin was already very scared with everything going on Martin was educated to know better.

Boloc boloc is not what you call a walk in the park. It is a hard steep drop down enbankment with some small trees and shrubs and the water is right there which is the Tagbilaran Bay.

Some one was eager to get this Gulle to admit to 14 stabs wounds when at first he admitted to 5 in the begining.

Maybe somebody wants this case closed fast to protect the others involved who assisted Gulle.

Just think if not for the ID being found of Gulle he could still be at large same as the guy who shooted at Martin in last Jan, 2009.

Where is the proof that this woman loves her husband the whole time i knew him I had never seeen her or met her one time.

And what I and others close to Martin did see was not a wife conducting herself as a wife should be.

Where is the proof? do not tell me a kid is your prooof because two retards can get it on and not love each other and make a kid.

I hear the negativeness of the freinds of this woman not just her alone and then we have a small precious child made of Martin and her mother and the mom shows pure hatredness towards the father. I am concerned for this childs environment when I and others see the atttude s going on that are not suitable for a small child to e around.

Maybe the mom since she gets along with the inlaws should let the child stay in UK with her husbands family since she has a UK passport and take a relax and prepare for going to work and getting her life put back together.

It is already too late to prove her love to her husband he is murdered.

traditional Filipino custom a family stays together through thick and thin and tries hard to work throught the toughest times.
Why do I see many women estranged from they're husbands in Philippines and then you see those men even Philippine going after other women behing they're wives backs?

Even foreigner men do the same thing. I am in total favor of the divorce law for the Philippines.

Why hang on to the mold  when it has gathered bad yeasts and boring warn out flavor.

I am really not in the energetic mood to open up anymore topics.

I am with out a doubt humanly discusted in how the Philippine police force handled this case, and other cases of similair bearing.

I probably would enjoy meeting Martins little girl I have heard many wonderfull things about how cute she is.







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girlnextdoor just wanna make clear things up to u..je told me that martins mobile is in police thats y gulle commited robbery with homicide coz he get the mobile, money and keys of motorbike.and i think if thats involve in the crime scene that mobile will never go to je..dnt tel me our police in phil doesnt have any knowledge of keeping evidences..i realy dont think so..and pls stop braging je ..y dont u talk to her personally before talking here lies..im sory about this..i myht have hols and c this situation myslef..its realy easy here to write text message if we wanted too u knw..anybody can do it...but prove it first...and about amys custody...ur telling here that amy should be look after by martins parents? how would u feel if ur daughter will be away from u ?esp if shes just 1YR OLD??how would u feel that?u dnt knw hows the feeling of being a mother then...and i think martins parent are old..when i meet them 2 yrs ago..they just about in 70's so do u think they still have energy for that??huh?i dnt think so honey...and please y dnt u talk to GULLE and BORJA which are the killers instead of posting here lies ok!have a nice day madam

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and please dnt involve the police here. we should be thankful with them that suspects are caught..not like the other cases..wat if theres no suspects?im sure u will accuse police again..why dnt u become a police so that ul knw how hard to be a polce man..my dad is a police man and he died in shooting incident...so pls dn involve them it hurts on my side that u accuse police..they try to work hard to get martins justice and now its nearly serve so WAIT AND SEE OK!

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WE need JUSTICE not LIES  and  FABRICATED STORIES ok...all u do is accuse accuse accuse..set back and relax..keep ur fat asses cool down ..drink a pint of beers and get more calories and more fats heheheh

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t.g.n.door, Thank you for the update. Makes interesting reading ......

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ur so pathetic tgnd u dont know s**t u admit  u havent meet her yet then u talk too much about her come on! ur such a liar!

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to jfm the murderers hve been caught they have pleaded guilty end of story.why would this people plea guilty to murder if they were innocent end of story.
once again as i have already stated the police said if nobody files a prosecutions the murderer would be set free,so why would gee prosecute them if she had paid them if you only had the basic of intelegence jfm,patman,next door,steve etc. the facts of the case would be plane to see end of story.


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Chona,abby,ning,gee ect, you really are all very amusing, do you not read the facts ?? The whole reason of this site is because this is not yet a closed case. There are other murderers there are people who have paid for this to be done and we will fight till justice is served, i can state all the facts again for you if you wish, but i am presuming you have read everything that has been said here. So NO, it is not the end of the story. Infact it is very far from the end of the story.

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Goodness me, this is becoming more like a blast from the past, when i was fighting for justice for my father. Now what i see here are Martins lovely friends and family only wanting to get to the bottom of his murder but also the previous attempts which have to be connected no-one could possibly be that unlucky to have that many attempts on his life, you would have a better chance of winning the lottery. Then you have people like Chona and Ning who are the two people who know what went on and are trying there best to get people off track, but it just isnt working,and they resort to cheap tactics, then theres a friend of the wife,abby who does not want to believe she has any connection, but incriminates her without even realising shes doing it. Just keep fighting, dont let it be the end of the story until you have your justice.

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to jfm the murderers hve been caught they have pleaded guilty end of story.why would this people plea guilty to murder if they were innocent end of story.
once again as i have already stated the police said if nobody files a prosecutions the murderer would be set free,so why would gee prosecute them if she had paid them if you only had the basic of intelegence jfm,patman,next door,steve etc. the facts of the case would be plane to see end of story.

This all sounds and looks like you all wont to end the story soon as possible, When you do bad things they allways cum back and biet you on the ass . Iv never herd so much crap in how to justifie a mans death , I hope the real and lovein people of Bohol have read this and see wot the wife has said about the man she loved , Takeing girls to the police and crying rape ,,,,, Saying goodnite in a tex 15mins before he wos shot at , a thing she never did because they wernt together , 

If i gave her a fishing rod she would sell it , She hasernt got the brains to go fishing and cach fish for the week, Hay ho love you all

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The bible has a great deal to say about revenge.
The key verse regarding this truth is found in the old testament and is quoted twice in the new testament.
God said-
"It is mine to avenge, i will repay, In due time their foot will slip, their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them."

(And god is on our side.)

BELIEVE THIS QUOTE-ITS VERY TRUE.

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I would just like to quote what abby said on the previous page that - Je (Martins wife) told her that Gulle commited the robbery with homicide to get Martins phone,money and keys to his bike. What happened to the story that he went to the aid of Borja ? Liars will always slip up and hang themselves.

Or was that to have been his payment for his part in the crime ?


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ur one of them JFM  u called them lier and u? the great pretender???  ;D

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hi im thalia one of martins friend to be honest i was working with him we are his first bar girls we are 5 together since martin arrived together with his family in phil until the wife go back to uk bcoz martin sign her application for renewal visa and follow them but martin change his mind not to go in uk anymore coz he enjoying himself with us ...to be honest i was her girlfriend but its my job "trabaho lang walang personalan" kaingon ko ug kami nagayod pero dili lang diay ako ra gi horot diay mi tanang bar girls ug gamit nya so mao nga nagpalayo nalang ako until i found out his dead,to be honest its good for everybody that his gone and panglao will be have peace in mind coz girls are fighting with him...so hope he will be rest in peace..colin and edit know me coz during their holidays in phil.i was with martin they stay in martins house couple of days....its me thalia remember that martin never buy  food for us and feed us as his employeer...
excause me when we went in martin house i dont know the name thalia there is only dimmy and maila and there they only one who mention about the food so get the fact 
 correct, colin challaged martin about the food and admitted thats sometimes they run short and when he out all the time and he out a lot he tends to forget if there is enough food in the house and we told the girls to remind him when they run short ,then we went to the market to stock on food for them we bought our food and dimmy and maila said there are happy they feel relax most of our two days the two girls with the female friend of martin eat out at restaurant where martin pay there meals and we pay our own at the night time in the club and they seem happy and relaxed as can be seen in our film and photo's and made up with the tips at the end of the night,colin told them to text me if martin did not look after us,
as we know both parties we have tried to keep out of this and let the law find the truth untill our name was mentioned, ???

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guys ur too much here..crusaderfreedom and jusice for martin..its easy to accuse but its hard to prove esp if the accused is innocent..i was talkin to je..she said plenty of people intersted in bar..someone offerd her to rent ,sell or be partner on here but she refuses them all..she was crying wen i talk 2 here..she said lastwek of april she went in hall of justice coz of the prelim investigation of her husband..she seen irene..she said the bitch cry in front of the fiscal so dat she will not prove guilty..she wana smack the lady but her mum stop here for the killer bring oll the families which rely looks scary. so if i were u guys instead of accusing je why dnt u open ur eyes and accept that the killers are caught instead of accusing...i knw colin and edit..they just being frend wih martin coz they think they can have holiday in bohol for free..huh...i dnt like that couple .b4 they are the one who wants martin to put in jail wen martin and je have a big fyht in uk coz martin lay hands on je which give bruises..i remember edit said go walk in center and report martin police but je said no i wanna save my marriage and love martin.i dnt care if u get mad on me edit and colin but ur too much here..u knw d couple they just users...hey i seen u edit lastxmas party..ur still arogant same as ur boustful husband..sory guys its just i dnt like u both....c u in filipino party again

yes Editha went to the police to help surport herand we told Martin because of the alligation,she didn't want any charges and admitted she was to blame as well as they was both drunk,
You was still friends Mhardie when we was playing marriage guidence between them,we told both that they bad as one another ,Martin asked in front of us if gei minded him going to help build the house so it be ready for them and if she can manage ok even that the baby was only a few months old as we said it would only be like he had a job abroad for a few months,as it is only 3 weeks,she agreed and told him to book the flight,
Whats Up Mhardie are you jealouse as we stayed in the house and Martin would not let you and Joe stay ,O BY THE WAY "2  NIGHTS IS NOT A HOLIDAY OF COURSE HE DID NOT CHARGE US AS WE NOT CHARGE HIM FOR TAKING AND COLLECTING FROM THE AIRPORT ,as we did it as friends also WE took cash and personal items for him ,
oh this is suposed to be a blog not a private attack on people???you might be correct that I'm arrogant thats me but I still help people and as I was lucky with some REDHILL shares was so from 40p to near £3 like to buy desighner dresses for editha and shirts  for me maybe correct again so you dont like us both as you dont need our help now same hear at least we not two faced like you and talk behind your back

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the  blog getting intresting ,it make a 100 enough for a film????a few more new names sounds that they could have somthing intresting to say as it seems they know the black widow ,Gei sounds like ruth ellis slim buitifull crafty sceaming ,clever but the last english woman hanged for murder.why is it tthat Ning, Jan jan ,Chona,Abby and a couple more seem to be the same 2 people or a close circle each one telling the other what to say,and repeating the same defence and accusations,Problem as she corrupt police in the family and dangerouse family members over hear in Bohol as I know a few of them, justice will be hard to come by,but as time goes by and money runs out it gets harder to cover up ,so except you will have many sleepless nights,gei said she only wanted justice as she must have collected half a million from his eastate why not put this up as a reward or even a million from his easte worth 15,000,000  and show to everone one that finding out the real people behind the murder (not the fall guy's)means more than his eastate I.m sure amy would prefere the real murder be found than a big haunted house

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JFM,am glad you also noticed one of the things i was refering to when i said abby was incriminating the wife without even realising  she was doing so.. I also thought Gully said he stabbed Martin as he went to the aid of Borja. This case is so flawed and anyone can see this just by readin this blog, it doesnt take a person with a high IQ to realise that.




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Yes, Dolphin, i did notice, and your right it doesnt take a clever person to know theres so much more to this crime.

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