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« Reply #100 on: July 09, 2009, 07:27:14 PM »
Sa Pilipinas, ang "karamba" duha ang meaning, depende kon kinsay nagsulti:

1. Kon Katsila, kini expression sa kasuko, katingala, o kasakit. (As in, "Ay, karamba. Donde esta la silya tumba-tumba.")

2. Kon Hapon, ah, buot ipasabot kon diin matawo si Rizal. (So desu ka, Karamba, Raguna.)

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« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2009, 11:48:11 PM »
hahaha nakatawa ko sa imong hinapon Bunchy.
Akong nanay diay naay pagkahapon mo sulti kay laliman ba pud ug mo pronounce ug Bulkan iya ingon Burkan. Na notice na nako sa akong inahan nga ang L pulihan ug R. Mao ra pud na natong mga pinoy ang F pulihan ug P unya ang P pulihan ug F.
Haffy na tang tanan.
Ug mokanta ug videoke Inay pagkapronounce Feelings maingon ani:

Peelings nothing more than peelings
Trying to porget my peelings of hate.
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« Reply #102 on: July 10, 2009, 07:02:03 AM »

It is, indeed, Latin-derived.

Anything that is Spanish will be Latin-derived, considering the fact that the present 'Kingdom of Spain' was an Roman Imperial Province known then as 'Colonium Hispanicum'

We need to look at the epistemology of the word 'Ay Caramba' to fully understand the meaning.

First, The word 'Ay' is an Interjection inferring a surprise. Similar to the Filipino interjection of "Hoy!'

The Spanish Word 'Caramba' means an: oath, allegiance. Another term for Caramba in Spanish is the word 'Carajo' , which in English transliteration means: "The look out post of a Spanish galleon/ The Crow's Nest".

Both words "Caramba and Carajo" are derived from the Latin word '"Caraculus".

So the term "Ay Caramba" is an interjection we use in Spanish. To relegate surprise after seeing something, hearing something, or any other negative or positive stimuli that warrants a prompt response from an individual or a group.


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« Reply #103 on: July 10, 2009, 07:07:54 AM »
The Beauty and Imperial Regality of the Spanish Language, as well as other sister Romance languages (namely: Portuguese, French, Italian, Romanian) honor the beauty and provincial language of the Roman Empire. Latin.

The Language of the Caesars, The Legions, the voice of the Senatorium, The Imperium itself.

The variances in French, Portuguese, Romanian, Italian and Spanish is the very manifestation and illustrative witness to the pleoitropistic nature of language being so spread apart. These languages, indeed, share similar tensing, salutations, conjugations, core wordings due to the shear fact that these languages evolved and are based from LATIN.

But evolved, naturally, through the centuries, an effect, these languages is the very illustration of 'Colloquial Diction' and development of 'Dialect'. In essence, that is what these languages are. Dialects. Dialects of Imperial Latin.


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« Reply #104 on: July 10, 2009, 09:08:03 AM »

pleoitropistic

Doy, pleiotropic man tingali ang correct spelling and adjectival form sa pulong nga imong gigamit.

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« Reply #105 on: July 10, 2009, 09:10:55 AM »
Hubag,
Pleiotropistic, is what we use in medical terminology. Referring to pleiotropism. Meaning can affect and have various multi-systemic effects. IN this case, the effect is Latin developing into different regions, with dialect formation.

Sorry, not all of us have time to use spell check. hehehe

Info is there tho. I assure you that. ;)

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« Reply #106 on: July 10, 2009, 09:14:13 AM »
I'll give you an example in usage in medical terminology.


Liposarcoma will have pleiotropistic effects if it spreads through the inguinal lymph nodes and the lymphatic systems, perforating into the greater saphenous veins and the lesser saphenous veins. Thereby spreading the tumor to other sites of the body, thereby facilitating the process of metastasis.

Definition ni of Benign Tumor to Malignant Tumor of the Liposarcomic variance.

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« Reply #107 on: July 10, 2009, 09:19:59 AM »
Or another example;

Let us define the processes of Neoplastic Growth:

Withint the human chromosomal variant, there in line lies the P-53 gene (TSG = tumor suppressor gene) and the RB (retinoblastic gene) which are responsible for the regulation of genetic compliance and inhibition of pathological tumoric growth, which is a result of multi-faceted pathology; ieg) environmental, chemico-radial,. If the P-53 gene is mutated in anyway, the genetic malformations that can lead to nuclear transcription of erred m-RNA /Protein derivatives will lead to the facilitation of tumoric growth and eventual endothelial damage, thereby will lead to DIC (disseminated intravascular coagulation). The result of the mutation of the P-53 gene's malformation and eventual cascade of pathological processes that will lead to tumoric growth via neoplastogenesis is by right, an example of Pleiotropistic processes. Pleiotropism.


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« Reply #108 on: July 10, 2009, 09:23:28 AM »

He he, of course. Just as most of us don't need to use spell check, but there are others who do.  ;)

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« Reply #109 on: July 10, 2009, 09:26:28 AM »
Yup, and us average folks use it. But this is a public forum. So we're pretty laxed here.

Here to have fun. And learn. ;)


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« Reply #110 on: July 10, 2009, 09:31:25 AM »
But back to the main picture (and not picking on the small things), that is the relationship between Ay Caramba and Carajo and the Latin Caraculus.

hehehe. High Yield Info.

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« Reply #111 on: July 10, 2009, 09:34:07 AM »
Response to Candijaynon's question on the epistemology of 'KARAMBA':


My answer:

It is, indeed, Latin-derived.

Anything that is Spanish will be Latin-derived, considering the fact that the present 'Kingdom of Spain' was an Roman Imperial Province known then as 'Colonium Hispanicum'

We need to look at the epistemology of the word 'Ay Caramba' to fully understand the meaning.

First, The word 'Ay' is an Interjection inferring a surprise. Similar to the Filipino interjection of "Hoy!'

The Spanish Word 'Caramba' means an: oath, allegiance. Another term for Caramba in Spanish is the word 'Carajo' , which in English transliteration means: "The look out post of a Spanish galleon/ The Crow's Nest".

Both words "Caramba and Carajo" are derived from the Latin word '"Caraculus".

So the term "Ay Caramba" is an interjection we use in Spanish. To relegate surprise after seeing something, hearing something, or any other negative or positive stimuli that warrants a prompt response from an individual or a group.


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« Reply #112 on: July 10, 2009, 09:37:32 AM »
And to answer Hubag's post;

The original word is Pleiotropism.
However, we can use pleiotropistic or pleiotropic or pleiotropical.
It's used repetitively in Medical Pharmacology as well as in Systemic Pathology.

I do thank your deep interest in trying to elucidat us on proper spelling. hehehehe.




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« Reply #113 on: July 10, 2009, 09:45:26 AM »

You must mean "etymology". "Epistemology" is something else altogether.

Sorry for pointing out the small things. The devil is in the details, you know. I hope you care about details, because you are a very religious person. Before you know it, the devil may be upon you.  ;)

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« Reply #114 on: July 10, 2009, 09:56:36 AM »
I'm just sharing info for the fun of it, Hubag, not trying to impress or trying to be so proper because, its all for fun, bud. Ning relax raman pood ta ari, hehehe. Its a public forum. Ug mo write ko sa paper, promise ko mo use ko ug spell check. hehehe.  ;)   :D

I do stand corrected, I did mean to say Etymology, not Epistemology. Epistemology = the study of knowledge. Etymology is the study of a word. But in all case and purposes, we are studying knowledge. hehehe.

Details are covered, here, and im grateful for your sharp mastery in spelling, pero we are discussing the the word 'CARAMBA'. You're putting too much emphasis on the way I spell words, that have nothing to do with the word 'CARAMBA'. I used the word Pleoiotropistic/Pleiotropic in regards to the development of the Latin Language, and its eventual formation into French, Spanish, Italian (all the romance languages etc). hehehe.

You're focusing on the wrong thing. Focus on the subject matter. You can get lost in the information we're trying to share here. hehehe. Stick to the big picture, else you loose the main point of the discussion. (which you did, unfortunately)


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You see, Hubag, understanding the word and its meaning is like understanding and reading the Bible. One needs to DISCERN the meaning of the word, and its true meaning, and stick to the main picture. What you are doing is similar to selectively reading a verse, and not reading the entire passage in a particular biblical gospel. hehehe!
Ug mo follow ka ing anang style nimo, ma confused jud ka if you read the bible because the best way to read scripture is to read passage by passage in relation to the entire message of that chapter, or book and then compare it to the message of other books in scripture. hehehe.
Too busy ra pood ka to compare the greek spelling, the latin spelling, or the simplified english version or bisayan spelling. hehehe. Pariho ra jud na!

Its like a pie. Instead of taking the pie, you are picking on the crust. That kind of mentality.

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« Reply #115 on: July 10, 2009, 10:09:12 AM »

He he, yes of course. I've just been relaxing all this time.

And-- I rest my case. (Now I can't say if I'm right in doing so.)

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« Reply #116 on: July 10, 2009, 10:13:08 AM »
Final Analysis: Even when people give an answer to a question, still there will be others who will pick and focus on something that is irrelevant to the answer. And to the subject matter.

What can we do, that is life, can't please everyone. :)

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« Reply #117 on: July 10, 2009, 10:42:34 AM »

lol, Priscilla, I really admire your ability to try to understand Bisaya, albeit the fact that it isn't your primary language. I highly respect that.
As for me, there are so much of the Bisayan language that I don't understand, I can understand it by ear, but writing it is difficult, as I never had any formal schooling in how to write in Bisayan. Its really interesting trying to learn Bisaya, but its a process.

And im sure, you've enjoyed it eh? I've developed a new-found love for Bisaya, actually these few years. Reading and being exposed to balaks here is definitely a motivating factor in mastering my ancestral tongue.

Tagalog tho, thats a different matter. hehehehe ;)

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« Reply #118 on: July 10, 2009, 10:53:23 AM »
Another word that is used in Filipino that is of Hispanic origin is : 'PARE'

The term Pare is used by Filipinos to refer to a friend, close confidant, almost like a brother.
There is no Spanish Word 'Pare' but there is a Spanish word close to it, called "COMPADRE"

Compadre in Spanish means "co-parent" or "other parent"

Same thing for the word 'MARE' referring to a woman's friend, close confidant.
Influenced by the Spanish word 'MADRE' which means 'mother'.

hehehe. cool eh?

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Re: Which Is The Crazy Language? Let's Translate.
« Reply #119 on: July 10, 2009, 11:01:24 AM »
Interestingly enough there are two meanings for the word Pare/ Pari (both words pronounced Pa Re).

One, the former refers to a friend, "Pare Ko" (like the song, hehehe).

And the latter, referring to a priest.

I can understand where the world Pari (or sometimes spelled pare) coming from the word 'Padre' meaning Father.

Interesting tho.



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