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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2011, 11:43:47 am »

Bwahaha! A generous dose of humor really does wonders...

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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2011, 01:23:56 pm »

this indeed is one h-e-l-l of a piece using a literary device (call it by whatever name; satire, parody, lampoon, etc.) written by young people.  and i thought they didn't care about politics!  (stupid me.  how could i forget that elsewhere they're making revolutions.)

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2011, 01:26:25 pm »
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Day of betrayal in Congress

By Amando Doronila
Philippine Daily Inquirer
04/14/2011

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Five years later, it was time to physically remove Stalin from a place of honor. Khrushchev read a decree ordering the removal of Stalin’s remains. The decree said: “The further retention of the mausoleum of sarcophagus with the bier of J.V. Stalin shall be recognized as inappropriate since the serious violations by Stalin of Lenin’s precepts, abuse of power, mass repressions against honorable Soviet people, and other activities during the period of the personality cult make it impossible to leave the bier with his body in the mausoleum of V.I. Lenin.”

“A few days later, Stalin’s body was quietly removed from the the mausoleum,” said the article. “There were no ceremonies and no fanfare. About 300 feet from the mausoleum, Stalin’s body was buried near other minor leaders of the Revolution. His body was placed near the Kremlin wall, half-hidden by trees. A few weeks later, a simple dark granite stone marked the grave with the very simple identifying mark ‘J.V. Stalin, 1879-1953.’ In 1970, a small bust was added to the grave.”

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2011, 01:31:10 pm »

The regime change after the end of the Stalin era of terror ushered in a period of political reform. Khrushchev never questioned Stalin’s role in turning back the German invasion at Stalingrad in World War II, and his status as a hero.

In the Philippines, we are taking a reverse process. The political heirs and family of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos are moving heaven and earth to reestablish the Marcos legacy after it had been overthrown by the people in the 1986 People Power Revolution. The Soviet people removed the physical monuments of the Stalinist personality cult in the campaign to exorcise the legacy of Stalin in their national memory. Here we have been doing the opposite. Instead of expunging the Marcos legacy, cohorts of the dictatorship are using the democratic institutions restored by the People Power Revolution as the staging ground to bring Marcos back to public adoration through the resolution in the House of Representatives petitioning the President to allow the burial of the Marcos remains in the cemetery of heroes.

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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2011, 01:32:54 pm »

Stalin was an authentic Soviet war hero in the Patriotic War against the German invasion. Marcos’ heroic role in the resistance movement against the Japanese Occupation has been debunked as a monumental fraud.

The day 216 representatives signed HR 1135 seeking the burial Marcos as a national hero was a day of infamy in the post-Edsa Philippine democracy. Among other things, the Marcos regime is accused of the murder of several thousand Filipinos who opposed the dictatorship. Filipinos can never live down that day of betrayal by their representatives in Congress.


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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2011, 01:37:02 pm »
Libingan: Home for the Glorious Dead
April 13, 2011

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Glorious death, bringing honor to the country, fighting for the sake of freedom and democracy… These are the people who can claim to deserve burial in the Libingan. Not just any soldier, not just any president…

Lately, Rep. Salvador Escudero III (1st District, Sorsogon-UNO) filed House Resolution 1135 seeking to urge the administration of PNoy to allow the burial of the remains of late president and strongman Ferdinand Marcos at the Libingan. He justifies in the second paragraph that Marcos was a well-decorated veteran of World War II and a survivor of the Bataan Death March, two historical claims that remained controversial for its questionable veracity. Succeeding paragraphs rattled off his membership in Congress, his presidency and his accomplishments as the longest-reigning president in the country and commander-in-chief of the Philippine armed forces.

In paragraph 7, Escudero capped the list with a claim that Marcos “remained a Filipino patriot to the end of his life and in death deserves to be honored as such.”

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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2011, 01:39:40 pm »

But this resolution purposefully mistated the fact that the Filipino who may have been a patriot ceased to be so at the end of his life. Among those ignominous deeds of his dictatorial rule, the latest one deserved the order of the Sandiganbayan to the heirs of the Marcos estate to return the P10 million that the former president had transferred from the National Food Authority (NFA) to a private account in Security Bank on 27 July 1983.

If after all these ignominous things in the history of Marcos regime qualify for deeds that give “glory of his death” and “fights for freedom and democracy” we may as well rename Libingan with something else. And perhaps relocate the remains of those patriots, presidents and heroes of glorious repute somewhere else.

Burying Marcos in Libingan will dishonor the memory of those whose lives were offered to the country with no thought of monetary compensation, the soldiers in Corrigedor and Bataan who had to survive with no food in order to fight off the Japanese forces. Compare that to the US$ 7.5 million of sequestered assets that the US Court awarded to almost 8,000 human rights victims during his martial rule, P10 million diverted money from NFA, and still more that the Philippine government has not uncovered.

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2011, 01:41:03 pm »

 Burying Marcos in Libingan will insult the memory of former president Carlos Garcia, who espoused the “Filipino First” policy, not “myself first” policy, in his administration.

Burying Marcos in Libingan will insult the memory of General Artemio Ricarte, the father of the Philippine Army, who never took an oath of allegiance to the occupying American forces since the Philippine Revolution and the Philippine-American War. Amidst the persecution he suffered from fellow Filipinos and the American forces, he chose to stay in the country to continue his fight, saying, “I can not take refuge in Japan at this critical moment when my people are in actual distress. I will stay in my Motherland to the last.” And he lost his life standing for his Motherland.

Burying Marcos in Libingan will insult our memory as Filipino people, especially the desaparecidos, who judged him as a scoundrel who put himself and his family before his country, and putting an end to his military-protected dictatorial rule, through the EDSA People Power Revolution in 1986.

Burying Marcos in Libingan will insult ourselves as a people. And Filipinos must demand an explanation from their district representatives who supported HR 1135 (click here for the list). It is time for the Filipinos take their stand for the indignity they suffered in the hands of the late dictator.

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2011, 01:41:55 pm »

At the end of the day, the only way the Marcoses can redeem the honor of the deposed dictator is to have him indirectly declared a “hero” when his remains get buried at the Libingan ng mga Bayani. Who can later on dispute that the late strongman Ferdinand Marcos was not a hero when he is buried at the Cemetery of Heroes? Thereafter, it is much easier to embellish history to honor the “heroism” of someone buried in the heroes’ cemetery.

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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2011, 08:59:35 pm »

Too bad that somewhere else in the world precious youth is wasted on ego-tripping...

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2011, 04:12:51 pm »
Who sets the standard for a person to be proclaimed bayani? is a hero measurable? This issue is very old yet continued to exist because of the historical myths that surrounds the life of MArcos. The US govt already declared that the MAHARLIKA group allegedly formed and led by MArcos was a fraud...Isnt he a master of this? E.g The Tasaday issue which happen to be his pet project that fooled even the brightest and smartest scholars that time. Mas deserving pa yung naglililinis sa daan, ang mga balot vendors na naghahanap buhay ng maayos....WIll it make a difference if his body be buried there?


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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2011, 10:48:41 pm »

just a squeak of an answer, junjun.  from the looks of it, it's the power elites who proclaim heroes nowadays.  it's probably their way of having the favor returned to them one day when they themselves or their kin wish to be proclaimed as heroes too, after plundering the country.

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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2011, 10:51:41 pm »
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‘Remembrancer’

By Juan Mercado
Philippine Daily Inquirer
04/09/2011


IN HIS column “Speak Memory,” Cebu Daily News’ Simeon Dumdum wrote wistfully of the need for a “Remembrancer,” an official of medieval times who jogged the memories of “barons” on pending matters.

The Remembrancer also hammered issues that the “nobles” preferred to forget, Dumdum, who is a Cebu Regional Trial Court judge, recalls. In the process, the Remembrancer squelched incipient tyrannies.

Like today’s House Resolution 1135?


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« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2011, 10:54:11 pm »

Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and clan, together with Imelda Marcos, plus 210 other representatives, signed HR 1135. It badgers President Benigno Aquino III to allow a Libingan ng mga Bayani interment for the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos.

Communal amnesia would expunge all “New Society” crimes. “The Marcos family never expressed any remorse,” Inquirer’s Randy David points out. “They do not seek forgiveness.” They see HR 1135 “as a vindication of their innocence .…They want the nation to revise its remembrance of the past.”

Aquino, whose father was assassinated during the dictatorship, is asked to reverse the verdict of People Power. Also, it would shove, into an Orwellian memory shredder, various crimes—from shell foundations in Lichtenstein, fake war medals, the confiscated 60-piece Roumeliotes jewels, to the 3,257 persons “salvaged,” 737 desaparecidos, plus thousands detained without trial.


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« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2011, 10:55:59 pm »

“Forget the past,” Senators Juan Ponce Enrile, Gringo Honasan and Antonio Trillanes III kibitzed from the sidelines. “Let the country move on.” They parrot Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet (1915-2006).

Under Pinochet’s iron-fist rule, 2,279 persons were murdered by state agents. Thousands disappeared. “It is best to remain silent and forget,” Pinochet said after his extradition from the United Kingdom and imprisonment. “It is the only thing to do: we must forget.”

No, disagrees Czech author Milan Kundera. “The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting,” he writes in “The Book of Laughter and Forgetting.”


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« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2011, 10:57:19 pm »

Today’s battle for memory defines tomorrow for our grandchildren. So, bear in mind how other countries dealt with the moral debris left by dictators.

Argentina’s human rights trials forced people to discuss issues over dinner. Chile has a monument “To the Disappeared.” South Africa’s Truth Commission documented abuses even by Nelson Mandela’s wife Winnie.

Protestant and Catholic churches in Brazil published secret regime documents titled: “Brazil Nunca Mais (Brazil Never Again).” In Guatemala, Catholic bishops drew up a four-volume work “to recover historic memory” of its 30-year civil war that left 100,000 dead or disappeared.


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« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2011, 10:58:23 pm »

Here, congressmen stared blankly at the 7,526 “remembrancers.” Cebu’s Judge Meinrado Paredes and Inquirer columnist Ma. Ceres Doyo were among the Marcos victims who received token $1,000 checks awarded by the US District Court of Hawaii. Their presence recalled the Court’s decision finding Marcos “liable for systematic torture, summary executions and disappearances.”

Former Sen. Rene Saguisag is a pro-bono “Remembrancer.” The Marcoses were kleptocrats according to a Sandiganbayan decision of 2003 (406 SCRA 190), he recalled in a letter to veterans. Impunity blanketed the 169 workers’ deaths in Imelda Marcos’ Film Palace. Marcos’ daughter Imee ignored the Hawaii court’s penalty for the 1977 salvaging of Archimedes Trajano, the Mapua student who questioned the then Kabataang Barangay head.

“Marcos may not belong in the Libingan,” Saguisag added. It would be different if a new law renames the 142-hectare cemetery as Libingan ng mga Bayani at mga Pangulo.


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« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2011, 11:01:08 pm »

Saguisag’s proposal looks into the future. Even former presidents go the way of all flesh. A president convicted of plunder, or one who owned up to “Hello Garci” mucking with electoral process, may be interred without an uproar.

Will the work of all these “remembrancers” be for naught?

Social Weather Stations reports that 50 percent of Filipinos agree to a Marcos Libingan burial. And 49 percent say no.

Isn’t that a repeat of an Ateneo-Social Weather Station survey of June 1986? Conducted just after People Power, that survey found only 4 percent wanted Marcos to return from exile, and to be tried and convicted.


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« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2011, 11:02:36 pm »
Forgetting seemed preferable to “uncovering the facts, giving the nameless dead their true names and decent burial, and prosecuting the perpetrators,” Sociologist John Carroll, SJ told the 1999 Ateneo-Wisconsin University conference on “Memory, Truth-Telling and the Pursuit of Justice.” “The Philippines is a nation in denial.”

Of the 5,000 World War II collaboration cases filed with the People’s Court, only 156 ended up with a conviction. “(It) created the impression that there was no real difference between patriots and traitors. Or that it was not worth the effort to sort them out.”

In 1986, People Power drove Marcos and his cronies into exile. Serial coups battered the succeeding (Cory) Aquino administration, which survived and made a peaceful orderly transition to a duly elected government. But none of the Marcoses or coup artists were penalized. Instead, they became political and economic kingpins.

Punishment is not a matter of revenge or even justice, Father Carroll wrote. It is the community rising to reaffirm values seriously violated. “Not to react as a community would be to reduce a community’s values or ‘common conscience’ to personal preference—and invite collapse.”

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« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2011, 11:06:59 pm »

In the Philippines, willingness to forget Marcos’ massive crimes reflects weakness of common conscience, he added. “Unless, the nation rises up to vindicate and reaffirm those values, it may be condemned to wander forever in the wilderness of valueless power plays of the elite.”

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« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2011, 05:58:57 am »

Punishment is not a matter of revenge or even justice, Father Carroll wrote. It is the community rising to reaffirm values seriously violated. “Not to react as a community would be to reduce a community’s values or ‘common conscience’ to personal preference—and invite collapse.”

Hmm. Records show that time and again we have neglected "to reaffirm values seriously violated".


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« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2011, 12:48:59 pm »
Nganong dili man ilubong si Marcos sa Libingan nga mga Bayani nga dili man tanan gilubong diha mga bayani. ? Dapit ilubong regardless of any reason.

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2011, 09:43:34 pm »
asos jod pride ra tanan naa aning marcos ngano man diay kon ilubong siya deli sa mga bayani na lobnganan,,,,,dakong sagpa nis PILIPINAS,,,dektador god,,nya pasidunggan pa????

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« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2011, 10:23:28 pm »

Nganong dili man ilubong si Marcos sa Libingan nga mga Bayani nga dili man tanan gilubong diha mga bayani. ? Dapit ilubong regardless of any reason.

Hmm, iapil na lang pud kaha ang congressmen nga nagpasiugda ani...

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« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2011, 01:04:02 pm »
Tan-awa ninjo kung mipirma ba ang congressman sa Bohol sa House Resolution 1135, A RESOLUTION URGING THE ADMINISTRATION OF PRESIDENT BENIGNO C. AQUINO III TO ALLOW THE BURIAL OF THE REMAINS OF FORMER PRESIDENT FERDINAND EDRALIN MARCOS AT THE LIBINGAN NG MGA BAYANI.

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« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2011, 02:31:27 pm »

i caught the names of bohol congressmen AUMENTADO, ERICO BOYLES and YAP, ARTHUR CUA.  bisan unsaon nakog balik-balik, di gyod nako makit-an ang RELAMPAGOS, RENE L.  i hope wa ko matamataha.  this is one way of knowing our congressmen.  did their votes ever speak for the people they represent?  did they make any consultations?


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« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2011, 02:43:33 pm »

Oi, cannot open the Internet site man sa akong computer... :P

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« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2011, 04:20:23 pm »
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« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2011, 05:55:49 pm »
i caught the names of bohol congressmen AUMENTADO, ERICO BOYLES and YAP, ARTHUR CUA.  bisan unsaon nakog balik-balik, di gyod nako makit-an ang RELAMPAGOS, RENE L.  i hope wa ko matamataha.  this is one way of knowing our congressmen.  did their votes ever speak for the people they represent?  did they make any consultations?


Agree ko ani nga statement.

Among congressman pud akip, MERCADO, ROGER.

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« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2011, 05:32:58 pm »


Angelo Reyes the former army chief who is a traitor by defying his sworn allegiance to protect the constitution was about to be charged in court of corruption committed suicide and never give the people a chance to know whether he was guilty or not...  but interred in the Libingan anyway. Marcos wanted to face the music but never given a chance for his day in court.
 
The Philippine government charged him in a Seattle court of accepting bribe from Westinghouse Inc.. The court decided in favor of Marcos and Westinghouse Inc. agreeing to Westinghouse Inc. that the 10 million dollars given as commission to Marcos is not a bribe but the money is a commission. This is a policy of Westinghouse Inc. and I agree also because even in our country commission is legal.
 
Imelda was also charged in New York of R.I.C.O. case but was pronounced innocent by the court. The court argue that the sin of Marcos is not the sin of Imelda.

 AFP Regulations G 161-373: “Allocation of Cemetery Plots at the LNMB”, which was issued on April 9, 1986 by GHQ under then AFP Chief of Staff General Fidel V. Ramos and then President Corazon C. Aquino, as amended by AFP Regulations G 161-375 on September 11, 2000, is the set of regulations that govern the interment at the LNMB."  

Marcos deserves to be buried in the LNMB because... according to the former senator Ernesto Macedo; "former President Marcos is entitled to be interred at the LNMB because he belongs to not one but four categories in the allocation of plots at the Libingan."

— As Medal of Valor awardee

— As former President

— As former Secretary of National Defense

— As veteran of World War 2

This is the truth about Marcos and I hope this will put him to rest at the Libingan ng mga Bayani. He maybe a villain to some but a hero to the vast majority of the people. Let us try to live with it.
 
Marcos and Erap were disgraced and demonized by the media. They did not disgrace their honor.

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2011, 02:49:07 am »

as the rest of us wait for more reasons on how "to try to live with it", here's an unemotional take on this topic:

Was Marcos a Hero?

No. But he was a soldier



HOME Marcos’s family brings his body home from Hawaii in 1993 (Photo: Jun Camarillo)


SORSOGON Rep. Salvador Escudero III has introduced a resolution supporting the burial of the waxy corpse of dictator Ferdinand Marcos in the Libingan ng mga Bayani—the misnamed heroes’ cemetery where among the honored sleepers are war veterans, guerrillas, former presidents, and people like Haydee Yorac who distinguished themselves in service to the people of the Philippines. But basically it is a military cemetery. All soldiers who die in battle in any of our conflicts are entitled to be buried there.

Nearly 200 congressmen have signed the resolution. Sen. Ferdinand Marcos Jr., son of the dictator, has been pressing since February for the burial among dead soldiers of his father, who, he says, was a war hero. This was disputed during the campaign for the 1986 snap election. The dispute had to do with whether Marcos deserved all of the 27 war medals that he claimed he had earned. There were questions about the authenticity of those medals, but Marcos insisted they were authentic. The opposition couldn’t care less—the only thing that was in dispute was whether he deserved them all.

What is undisputable is that Marcos was a soldier against the Japanese, something very few Filipinos were.

To be sure, Marcos’s guerrilla unit Ang Mga Maharlika, was a product of his imagination. No war veteran remembers it, much less fighting as a member of it. But that he fought the Japanese is not disputed or has been disproved, nor that he wore the uniform of a soldier for which he was socially despised by the old rich who whispered that he was too poor to date their daughters in proper linen suits.

To be sure, too, Marcos fought for the country’s freedom from Japanese occupation, although in 1972, as president, he contrived to suppress that freedom. But again there is no question that he was able to hold together a fissile and fragile economy when the Arabs clamped a global embargo on oil exports and destroyed most of the world’s economies. Marcos’s iron grip, with which he held the opposition by the neck, also held the economy together.

Saving the economy during that difficult time, however, would not entitle Marcos to be buried among dead soldiers. What entitles him is his having been a soldier, decorated or not. He was, and so it seems he is entitled to be buried in the Libingan ng mga Bayani. Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV, a former soldier, supports Escudero’s resolution for the same reason: hero or heel, Marcos was a soldier and he should be buried there. But not among ex-presidents, national artists and scientists and other notable men and women, but among the soldiers, under the same poor-quality marble cross with just a few words roughly carved on it— the dates of his birth and death and a single word to describe his service: “SOLDIER.”

Marcos’s friends are behind the House resolution, supposedly inspired by a recent Social Weather Stations poll that found that 50 percent of the Filipinos favor Marcos’s burial in the Libingan ng mga Bayani. President Benigno Aquino III, whose father, Sen. Benigno Aquino Jr., was one of the victims of Marcos’s martial-law regime, has stepped aside and tossed the job of making a decision to Vice President Jejomar Binay, who, in turn, has formed a committee to study the matter.


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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #73 on: April 29, 2011, 03:19:41 am »
MARCOS? :-[ NO-ONG ALAW NI LIZAL PA YAN! :P Adto na ilubong sa kangkongan :P

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« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2011, 01:18:58 pm »
 
     
This is the irony in the life of Marcos because the perceived wrongdoings and allegation of corruption attributed to him and his family have been designed to erase his name in the pages of Philippine history. This un-Filipino way of treating Marcos stemmed not from the culture of our people but I believe this is a culture of the illustrado. As my older folks narrated to us; this alien culture came from Europe and introduced by the Spaniards to a few Filipinos especially people who came from peninsular Spain and the Filipino mestizos. It was also brought to the province of Bohol. This culture was a kind of apartheid and most of the Tagbilaranons abhorred it. They coined this cultural division as; "taga ubos ug taga ibabaw". The "taga ubos" were only a few and because of inter-marriages between the "taga ubos and taga ibabaw" we fused together to become one people.

But not so long ago I witnessed with my own eyes twice the cultural division displayed by the people during Edsa I and Edsa II. This is the scenario as narrated by my uncles and my lola as it happened in a small town as Tagbilaran.

The Philippines Free Press again as it was before Martial Law is a staunch Marcos critic. Today the PFF don't have a living Marcos to be lambasted by their columnists. What they have is only a corpse but still the hatred won't stop. The PFF wants Marcos body to be buried in the Libingan with only the word "soldier" to be written in his tombstone... sort of hiding his grave away from the people. Just like Jose Rizal our national hero was buried in an unmarked grave... the Spanish authority wanted his grave unknown to the people. They put his initial in reversed as; "RPJ". I can see the coincidence if the PFF idea is to be followed.

I'm quite amused by the acceptance of the PFF that; "Marcos fought for the country’s freedom"... but it continues to say that Marcos "contrived to suppress [that] our freedom"; which is wrong! Marcos did not create the situation to suppress our freedom. The situation was created by the NPA when they bombed the Liberal Party rally at Plaza Miranda. Marcos is a patriot and he did not want our country to be devoured by Communism which is an alien ideology to the Filipinos. He knows of a threat by the NPA, so he took a preemptive action ahead of the NPA by declaring Martial Law.

The PFF caption says:

Was Marcos a Hero?

Answering itself... it says; No. But he was a soldier.

Explanation:

The short dialogue cum news caption is stressing a propaganda line to denigrate the memory of Marcos, his life as a soldier and as an honorable person. Of course a soldier and a hero are not the same but actually the PFF caption is hiding something.
 
It did not ask the question; "Marcos a medal of valor awardee; is he worthy to be called a hero?"

Now the complete idea of the PFF is written below. 

The PFF wrote:

"Nearly 200 congressmen have signed the resolution. Sen. Ferdinand Marcos Jr., son of the dictator, has been pressing since February for the burial among dead soldiers of his father, who, he says, was a war hero."

Reply:

Saying that his father is a hero... I think this is another invention of the PFF. Of course if Ferdinand Marcos Jr. has the evidence that his father is a hero... I think there's no need to blow his own trumpet... but let the record shows it!

The PFF continues:

This was disputed during the campaign for the 1986 snap election. The dispute had to do with whether Marcos deserved all of the 27 war medals that he claimed he had earned. There were questions about the authenticity of those medals, but Marcos insisted they were authentic. The opposition couldn’t care less—the only thing that was in dispute was whether he deserved them all."

Reply:

The saying goes this way; "a fish is caught by its own mouth." In the same manner as the PFF saying that; "This was disputed [medals of Marcos] during the campaign for the 1986 snap election"... is like the PFF is caught by its own words. The dispute is clear that the Marcos political enemies are only taking the "medals" as the issue to denigrate him. It is my belief that Marcos deserves all the 27 war medals awarded to him.

According to Brig. Gen. Restituto Aguilar, historical consultant of the AFP Museum said; “Those who contest the authenticity of his medals should substantiate their allegations. It shall undergo investigations and should follow a process”. 

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #75 on: May 02, 2011, 08:28:46 pm »
bisan pag ilobong sa libingan na mga bayani,,kay di jod siya bayani,,

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« Reply #76 on: May 02, 2011, 08:39:30 pm »

MARCOS? :-[ NO-ONG ALAW NI LIZAL PA YAN! :P Adto na ilubong sa kangkongan :P

Ayaw bay, mokaon ra ba kong tangkong...

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« Reply #77 on: May 02, 2011, 08:42:30 pm »

to hubag bohol, tua na watch ot list imong IP Doy! ;D

Patay, wa na jud diay koy tsansa nga makaentra sa LNMB kon maohon... :P

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« Reply #78 on: May 02, 2011, 08:45:57 pm »

bisan pag ilobong sa libingan na mga bayani,,kay di jod siya bayani,,

Unsa man diay siya, Bay Chris? ???

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2011, 09:03:00 pm »
Bai HB, MALCOS iya apelido :D dili siya pareha nila Fernando Bayani, Tetchie agBayani ;D

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