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check this out  http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=32702.0

among the claimants country in the west philippines, china is more focus on us

2 Maestrale Class Frigates
3 Hamilton Class Frigates (soon to be upgraded with more firepower)
3 Pohang Class from Korea
12 TA-50 Golden Eagle Jets from Korea

Im glad that President Aquino is serious in modernizing the Armed Forces

Maestrale

Country   ITALY
Displacement   2,700 / 3,200 t
Length   122.75-123 m
Beam   12.9 m
Draft   4.1-4.2 m
Speed   32-33 kts
Crew   224-232

Propulsion    CODOG
2 gas turbines FIAT LM/2.500 @ 50.000 SHP total
2 HP Diesel GMT 2.320 @ 11,000 SHP

Armament   
1 Otomat missile TESEO on 4 rails
1 Albatros launcher w/ 8 cells
1 127/54 milimeter OTO gun
2 anti-missile DART w/ twin 40/70mm machine-gun
1 2 SCLAR multiple rocket launcher
2 torpedo launcher MK 32 triple A/S or light ILAS-3 for 2 torpedo torpedo blade

Helicopters
2 AB-212

make love not war... yeah

i think China is becoming an EVIL EMPIRE... the nation has a history of killing millions, the great abortionists, brain washed and mind controlled by the chicoms, slowly invading the world and probably then moon...

seriously speaking, i think death penalty should be abolished in any nation on earth.

patay, naigo man ko

go go go Joel Bulabos idol!

i salute those philippine coast guard personnel who are currently onboard in PCG vessels currently in stand off with the chinese vessels in the scaborough shoal. defend our territory, defend our sovereignty, we are filipino, dagohoys blood is in our vein. God doesnt give us the Philippines for nothing, we will defend our land! Pilipinas para sa Pilipinas! i am not advocating war here, i just want the Filipinos to be a real Filipinos. Walang totolong sa Filipino kundi ang kapwa Filipino! Let the world knows that we are a peace loving peolple, we respect the law and we are not greedy and warfreaks like the chicoms, but let  also the world knows that we are one, and we will die for our rights for the "las islas filipinas". Long live Philippines! Dont be coward like our old politicians who only think about theirselves and their family neglecting our armed forces for so many years!

Quote from: Lorenzo on April 21, 2012, 01:25:40 AM
The problem is that the Chinese still maintain their "Zhonguo" (Middle Kingdom)  mentality in which China is the Cornerstone of Asia. They need to stop this old mentality.

it is now time for our government to seriously modernized our long time neglected armed forces and stop on relying to uncle sam for our defence. if we dont have a credible force to back our claim, we will pushed around by this greedy dragon

Quote from: islander on April 20, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
what's a troll, greeny, and is that really hair on top of your head?

a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion

Quote from: Lorenzo on April 19, 2012, 05:12:44 PM
I know from talking to some high ranking officials in Bohol that he is a very corrupt guy. It is about time his tenure is ending.

Let us hope that Tagbilaran's future mayor does better than him.

mao bitaw, there are thousands of holes in tagbilaran city roads.. kanunay nalang ko ma shot sa buho, kasakit sa akong lubot! dako kaau ug bayranan sa franchise ug permit sa mga tricycle and in return, wlay maayong dalan sa mga motorista! paet! kinahanglan mahuman na ang paghari sa mga tradisyunal nga mga politisyan sa bohol.

Quote from: niloandingdigal on February 04, 2010, 07:22:13 AM
DECENTI?
I think dili insakto ang word na decenti based on my observation sa inyung mga conversations
from the past.
But,naa sad kay point..pwede na sad..

yes, your correct! some members of tubagbohol are feeding the troll, or a troll himself

Quote from: Lorenzo on April 03, 2012, 01:49:45 PM
Philippines is possibly going to get a Missile Frigate (Italian-Made). I hope this goes through!



Deep Water Patrol Vessel (DWPV)

This requirement came out during the recent visit to Italy of a Philippine delegation led by Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin. The Philippine DND delegation signed an agreement with their Italian counterparts for possible purchase of Italian weapons systems. This visit include inspections of combat ready ships of the the Maestrale and Soldati classes of the Italian Navy, which are scheduled for retirement, with the earliest possibly by 2013. No indication of sales was made yet.

Lets bring back the Glory of the Philippine Navy! The airforce modernization must follow soon, at least 2 squadron of multi role fighters!

Quote from: hubag bohol on April 02, 2012, 09:19:58 PM
Come on, get real. No amount of upgrading of Philippine military hardware within Philippine financial capability will deter any Chinese intention of encroaching into Philippine waters. If the Chinese will not attack the Philippines, it is not because of our ability to retaliate, but because of what they might expose themselves to for picking on a pushover.

modernizing the philippine navy fleet doesnt mean that we have to stand toe to toe with chinese navy, which is im sure that we will be defeated even if our ships are modern and heavily armed considering the current fire power status of the chinese navy. The main purpose of deploying bigger and more modern philippine ships at west philippine sea is to have a presence of force, a credible force at west philippine sea, to enforce our rights of the potentially oil and gas rich region. if we dont have forces station there, they will just eventually take over this region. we will not be bullied, we will rise our flag there. it our pride!

The two Hamilton Class vessels acquired by the PHilippine NAvy are nothing if they dont have anti submarine warfare capabiltity and a missile capability. The Navy should upgrade its armaments to serve their great purpose in showing our flag in WEST PHILIPPINE SEA.

i hope that the us government will not remove the Phalanx CIWS missile defense gun of USCGS Dallas. And i hope that the philippine navy will name it BRP FRANCISCO DAGOHOY

installing harpoons in BRP Gregorio del Pilar and the another coming WHEC is 100 percent possible. WHEC Mellon is the first Hamilton Class ship to fire a Harpoon Missile.

acquiring two hamilton class ships, delivery of 8 sokol combat helicopters to replace our aging hueys, and the plan of acquiring a squadron of f16s or any multirole fighter are good signs that the aquino administration is serious in modernizing the AFP. The current status of Philippine Airforce is in sorry state, where we dont have a supersonic capability, with only trainer subsonic s211, C-130s, crashing OV 10s, nomads in our plane inventory. In our current state where we dont have enough capable ships to patrol the west philippine sea, we must also consider installing radar system in our occupied spratly islands, putting land based missile batteries in palawan, hidden in a container van system. I think chinese will hesitate intruding our territory upon knowing that we have missile batteries installed in palawan facing the recto bank, where it is believe to have a vast oil or gas deposits dwarfing the current malampaya.

hinaot unta nga intact gihapon ang iyang nga modernong kahimanan inig transfer na sa philippine navy sama sa CIWS, ug uban pa. Ug hinaot unta butangan sa navy ang duha ka Hamilton class ug anti submarine warfare capability ug missile system

the best song for this one is "Big Yellow Taxi"

Quote from: Mulligan on March 18, 2012, 12:22:25 AM
Pagkaguapo naman diay sa merkado.   

congrats guindulman! very nice modern public market.... you now join the huge public markets of bohol
calape

tubigon

talibon

jagna

ubay

and loon

there's a surge of testosterone early in the morning to studies, so nindot mag sex sa buntag, wlay problema ka hard kaayo ang lake ana

kusog mobalibad, mokalit ug brake, mokalit ug liko, mokalit ug cross, mokalit ug babag ayo kay pilit kaayo ang brake sa akong motor..... tricycle driver sa tagbi... hari sa kalsada... dugangan pa sa kalsada nga napono nag crater, mura nag moon surface, plus sa lake dao pa nga wlay hubas hubas, the only road with a lake at the center.... more fun in tagbi... plus tubig pa sa manga nga walay agas agas... more fun in  tagbi... hehe

bitaw nakamatikod pud ko ani..... wla pakoy kaligo kay 3 na ka simena wlay agas tubig sa manga, gisamotan pa sa BQ nga perteng iganga

metrobank will also open two branches in Bohol (Tubigon and Jagna)

upgrade the airstrip of pag-asa island and convert it into an airbase, so that it will serves as a jump off point our jets

of course we need radar system to do that. even if we cant stand toe to toe with china's modern military might, at least they will hesitate to bully us... at least the philippines will be a military threat in the region like what president marcos did in his reign

ok... at least nagsugod na... lets buy another two squadrons of multi-role fighter jets and daghang fully armed fast attack patrol seacrafts and engaged them before they can reach land. I think they will hesitate to land troops, murag pildihon sila sa guerilla warfare. AFP soldiers have more war experience than the chinese

Quote from: Mulligan on June 20, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
And the Philippines is also positioning our BIGGEST, OLDEST and ONLY warship.   

Translation: Wa lay tinud-anay China ha, kay mao mao ra ba ne amo warship.    


The Philippine Navy flagship BRP Humabon (PF 11) steams in formation during a naval exercise with US Navy warships in the
West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) on March 14, 2010. The Humabon is a World War II vintage destroyer escort/frigate
acquired from the US in 1978. It is now deployed along the Scarborough Shoal, an atoll facing Zambales and which China claims. US NAVY

why does the media keep saying that PF-11 is our ONLY warship? Humabon was the PN's ONLY FRIGATE

humabon was once armed with hedgehogs anti-sub weapons, but were removed because humabon's old engine cant keep up with its top speed... because of hedgehogs weight

Quote from: Mulligan on June 20, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
And the Philippines is also positioning our BIGGEST, OLDEST and ONLY warship.   

Translation: Wa lay tinud-anay China ha, kay mao mao ra ba ne amo warship.    


The Philippine Navy flagship BRP Humabon (PF 11) steams in formation during a naval exercise with US Navy warships in the
West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) on March 14, 2010. The Humabon is a World War II vintage destroyer escort/frigate
acquired from the US in 1978. It is now deployed along the Scarborough Shoal, an atoll facing Zambales and which China claims. US NAVY

General characteristics
Class and type:   Datu Kalantiaw class
Type:   Destroyer Escort / Frigate
Displacement:   1,390 tons standard, 1,620 tons full load
Length:   306 ft (93 m)
Beam:   36.66 ft (11.17 m)
Draft:   8.75 ft (2.67 m)
Installed power:   5,800 hp (4,300 kW)
Propulsion:   2 x GM EMP 16-645E7 (Turbo) Main Diesel Engines
2× GM EMP 8-268A Auxiliary Diesel Engines with 200 kW Generator
1× GM EMP 3-268A Auxiliary Diesel Engine with 100 kW Generator
2× shafts
Speed:   21 knots (39 km/h) maximum
Range:   10,800 nmi (20,000 km) at 12 knots (22 km/h)
Complement:   165
Sensors and
processing systems:   
[2][3]
Raytheon AN/SPS-64(V)11
Raytheon SPS-5 G/H-band Surface Search Radar
RCA/GE Mk26 I-band Navigation Radar
AN/SQS-17B Hull mounted Sonar
Mk52 GFCS with Mk41 Rangefinder for 3-inch (76 mm) guns
3 Mk51 GFCS for 40 mm guns
Armament:   3× 3"/50 caliber gun Mk22 dual purpose guns
3× Mk1 Mod2 Twin 60 caliber Bofors 40 mm gun
6× Mk10 70 caliber Oerlikon 20 mm cannon
4× 50 caliber 12.7 mm machine guns

Quote from: Lorenzo on June 21, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
Green,

the United States Defense Industry and Government is constantly under cyber attack by Chinese hackers. If we can imagine how large their (China's) hacking program is.

you're right lorenzo, but we will never underestimate the Filipino Talents.

yes, your right lorenzo. I think china is not foolish enough to go into war that would damage their economy, their international image that took them so many years to build. China image now is like an ASIAN bully, an international thief by claiming all territorial waters and resources that no longer belongs to them even if its FAR AWAY from Mainland Territory.
Hakog! dako na ang ilang territory, mangangkon pajud ug lain. P-noy is right "we will not be pushed around"

our potential enemy are now fully automatics, using the most advance war machines available today. Let us not forget that cyber warefare is the war of the future. Lets take it on the cyberspace. Lets hire the most brilliant computer geeks from our talented workforce, hack china's communication and information system and know their plans about spratlys. Study their systems, and put a computer worm/virus that will destroy their system if war escalates, we will disrupt their communication and hack their own missile silos and use it against their fleet cruising the west philippine sea, sinking them before it will reach the Phillipine Shore. Deploy e bombs that will destroys any electronic and automated system available and by then the war will be back to manual, skills to skills, and employ guerilla tactics and invisible army. With more war experience AFP soldiers, we could win the war. Im not advocating war, just an out of the box idea. War my bring the best of us.

adto ko didto puhon

one of my dreams

im so tired of hearing these same old issues... diplomatics protests... afp modernization fund being corrupted by government and military officials... it is hard to accept that the philippines has a very weak military firepower in the region.. powerful nations will always push the weak around..

cge nalang ug debate sa reproductive health bill, divorce, political issues etc...

dapat...

1. instill patriotism as early as the elementary level
2. ibalik ug tarongon ang ROTC CURRICULUM (male/female)
3. etc... daghan pang angayng tarongon ug buhaton busa ang AFP modernization tinuoray nang magsugod, dili kay cge lang ug pagarpar
4. kung dili na nato mahimo... im afraid...that the only way to modernize the military is to go to war.. hinaut unta dili mahitabo

ninja ray mopatay ninjo

GMO canis Pygoscelis

ika nga, four wheels move your body, two wheels move your soul!

kawasaki aura classic 111 - saksi sa akong gugmang wlay katumanan, saksi sa mga sakit ug kalipay sa kinabuhi, ako untang ibaligya pero maghuot ang dughan, ako nalang gibutang daplin sa among balay, ako unyang padaganon pag-usab. Let the good times roll.

honda xrm 110- motor sa akong papa, usahay akong kawaton para mag joyride, mangchicks, ug maglatagaw

suzuki smash revo 110- motor nga akong gi leasing sa among kompanya, deduct sa sueldo, akong mode of transpo karon

LAST PART

The US finally entered the war at 0930 hours, F/A22 fighters took off from Basa and Clark Field air force base, F35 VSTOL flew along side the F/A22 for a deep strike ground attack mission armed with JSOW, HARM, hellfire and a mix of AIM-120 and sidewinder missiles. It was an awesome and frightening sight for the Filipino people who saw the flight of over a hundred fighters taking off one by one at secret military bases, they knew that for the first time since the end of World War II the Philippines is being sucked up again by the United States in another war. Meanwhile in the streets of manila leftwing radicals, and grandstanding politicians are rallying against the Philippines quiet participation in the war, but their silence regarding China’s invasion of Taiwan revealed their real motive.

The USAF finally join in the actual fight before noon, they dropped JSOW, cluster bombs, and the most lethal of all is the FAE bomb (FAE is the most powerful conventional bomb also known as mini atom bomb) at the trapped PLA forces in western Taiwan. CNN and BBC news would later describe the killing of the Chinese soldiers as overkill an excessive use of force against an enemy, because the PLA soldiers were already encircled, and trapped at the beach.

US B52, and B1E lancer bombers based in Guam fired their latest weapons against PLAN navy ships in northern Taiwan using tomahawk cruise missile and the new HarpoonX the latter is an advance version of the old harpoon anti ship missile, it can fly longer, supersonic and designed to counter decoys and counter measures. One by one PLAN ships began sinking.

The US navy’s Pacific fleet couldn’t get in time but F/A18E fighters escorted by the air force air tankers were able to join in the mission striking targets mostly, tanks, IFV, and artillery of the PLA, UCAV based in the Philippines armed with hellfire and AIM-120 missiles destroyed more than 600 tanks, IFV and artillery, it managed to shot down several F8, and J10 fighters of the PLAAF

By 1600 hours the 101st air assault division also known as the screaming eagles, began parachuting over the sky of Taiwan in a High altitude landing operation or HALO. The purpose of the HALO jump from large transport aircraft is to avoid Chinese anti aircraft missile or SAM. The US Special Forces mission is to hunt and fight PLA commandos leaving the conventional fighting to the Taiwanese army. In addition to their mission is to serve as forward air controller for all the US aircraft conducting strike mission.

In western Philippines north of the Spratly islands and China Sea, US navy’s squadron of P3C Orion began hunting the PLAN submarines, and attack boats that are blocking the free passage of trade and commerce. China’s declaration of sovereignty in the whole of China Sea and express prohibition of civilian and military ships passing through that sea during the invasion of Taiwan is one of the justifications used by the US to act militarily against the PROC. Dropping a floating sonar in the sea the P3C Orion detected and sunk nearly a dozen PLAN submarines and missile boats. In one incident a lone P3C was flying without an escort of fighters when the F/A18E squadron was diverted to northern Philippines to support the embattled Taiwanese forces. The P3C aircraft was being chased by four SU27SK fighters of the PLAAF with the intention to shoot it with 30mm cannon because the P3C is armed with electronic and radar jammer thus the SU27SK were unable to shoot it with missiles. Unable to defend itself against the faster and agile fighters of the PLAAF it called for help, the Philippine Air Force happens to have 2 F5E tigershark fighters armed with Israeli made Phyton5 missiles patrolling near the area. But the two PAF fighters couldn’t come to the rescue of the P3C plane because under the PAF rules of engagement PAF pilots are not allowed to engage the Chinese fighters unless they enter the Philippine air space or territory and after three repeated warnings for the aircraft to leave the Philippine territory or land peacefully at nearby airfield, and visual sighting of the aircraft is a must. The four Chicom fighters soon entered the Philippine airspace, they ignored the warning of the 2 PAF fighters to leave because the Chinese pilots considered the PAF as the laughing stock of Asia, the four SU27SK fighters continued pursuing the P3C Orion. The US navy plane was about to be killed by the 30mm cannon of the SU27SK when they detected the two F5E fighters of the PAF radioing them to leave. The four SU27SK fighters of the PLAAF decided to engage instead the two F5E fighters of the PAF. “To kill a defenseless enemy aircraft like the P3C is an honor, but to kill an armed jet fighter is a glory”

The Chinese pilots over confidence worked against them, it was a fight of 4 to 2 in China’s favor, and both sides fired missiles at each other, The PAF pilots happen to be members of the blue diamond aerial acrobatic team, in a stunning display of aerial acrobatic skill aided by flares, decoys, and electronic counter measure, the PAF pilots managed to evade the heat seeking short range missiles of the SU27SK, but the Phyton5 missiles fired by the F5E slammed into one of the SU27SK. Phyton5 is fired through a bore sight of the helmet-mounted sights (HMS) of the F5E. Now the dogfight is 3 to 2 still in China’s favor, the SU27SK is a superior fighter compared with the F5E, it is faster, can climb higher, fly longer, and very agile. During the aerial ballet dogfight one of the SU27SK fired its 30mm cannon but couldn’t hit their target because the F5E is very small and agile as well. But superior flying skill regardless of the flight worthiness of the aircraft proved to be beneficial to the PAF pilots, soon the fight was reversed the SU27SK fighters playing the role of the hunters become the hunted, one of the SU27SK tried the cobra maneuver to evade the chasing F5E fighter but the PAF pilot was trained to expect that maneuver, it immediately fired its last remaining missile, it slammed into the SU27SK, because of the short distance the SU27SK decoys and counter measure failed to lure away the F5E missile. Now the dogfight is even 2 to 2, the two PAF pilots decided to coordinate their fight they performed violent acrobatic maneuver to confuse the SU27SK fighters of the PLAAF they soon closed in on the two Chinese fighters one by one they fired their weapon using their 20mm cannon. The dogfight was over in just five minutes, but for the pilots of the PAF it was their longest five minutes, even them couldn’t believe that the dogfight just took five minutes.

By 1800 hours the brave PLA soldiers in western Taiwan was defeated. But in northern Taiwan near the capital of Taipei the PLA was overrunning the Taiwanese defenses. Only the timely arrival of the B52, B1 bombers, F35 fighters based in the Philippines save the Taiwanese northern forces from the imminent defeat. To make the fight more demoralizing for the PLA, Taiwanese reserve aircraft based at several secret location finally join the fight providing close air support for the embattled Taiwanese army. The fight was brutal on both sides; it is like a meat grinder. Many PLA soldiers surrendered after realizing that they have no close air support to prosecute the war.

Within 48 hours, facing imminent defeat in Taiwan and without air superiority, and her navy is now just a shadow of what it once was; The People’s Republic of China decided to send all available fighters and bombers in her inventory to Taiwan, but this time the F15E and F35 fighters of the US air force and marine based in Japan finally join the fight, after getting permission from the Japanese government and after realizing that North Korea has no intention to invade South Korea. Over a thousand aircraft was involved in this fight, the first massive air-to-air engagement since the end of World War II. In the end the combined US and Taiwanese forces plus their superior technology would win this air war. It was a decision that China would later regret.

Five days after the invasion, and China’s defeat is now official but China has yet to acknowledge it. A secret face saving negotiation is being held at Geneva Switzerland, all parties involve favor a ceasefire and none would declare a military victory. Under the terms of agreement status quo would be maintained, Taiwan would acknowledge to be part of China and negotiation for peaceful reunification shall begin by 2030, and the US military would be allowed to have a military bases in Taiwan for 100 years even after reunification with China. And in the event of reunification it would be a one country two system and, Taiwan has the right to choose its own leader and maintain its own military but under the Chinese command structure. China would pay the US and Taiwan 140 billion dollars not as war reparation but as damage to the properties destroyed during the war.

The US has no intention to honor all of her commitments to the Philippines. Shade of World War II betrayal of veterans all over again


FROM el_commandante of timawa.net

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=c4bf457974ef356b212c1c9a4e2eefd9&topic=2626.0

PART 2

Taiwan knew that it could not sustain an air war of similar magnitude like this. Her fleet of F16, Mirage2000, and, Ching Kuo including the reserve has shrunk to about 350 fighters. But the PLAAF learned a lesson in that air war, the next wave of attack would be much smaller to conserve its fleet of fighters. The next attack would be about eight squadrons only.

The situation in the sea was different, the Taiwanese navy was decimated by the barrage of sunburn and silkworm missiles, the naval engagement was beyond the horizon battle. But the Taiwanese submarine got lucky, lying deep in the sea on an ambush mode, the submarine managed to sink two Russian made Sovremenny class missile destroyers, China’s most advance destroyers. But the Taiwanese Submarine paid a heavy price by firing her torpedo; she revealed her location and was soon sunk by a Kilo class submarine of the PLAN.

Within thirteen minutes after the air and naval war had begun, president Arnold Schwarzenneger, (America’s first foreign born president after the US Constitution was amended) was informed of the battle of the Taiwan Strait, He immediately alerted all US forces particularly the US seventh fleet based in the pacific. In a live address to the American people he told them of his decision to help defend the democratic and peace loving people of Taiwan against the communist tyranny. The decision to come to the rescue of Taiwan was swift because, the US contingency plan long before the Chinese invasion is to help Taiwan, and, the invasion was expected it was discussed already at the pentagon and white house situation room for months. Unknown to the American people a Xia class nuclear submarine is on stationed 75 miles off the coast of New York, but the Chinese submarine has been detected and tailed by a seawolf class attack submarine, the USS Bill Clinton. Bureaucratic delay, squabbling by the joint chiefs, turf war by the three services of the military, and late minute war planning at the Pentagon delayed the swift response of the US for 7 hours.

The President of the Philippines Manuel Roxas was informed of the attack at about the same time the US president was informed. Although the Philippines is neutral “publicly” he immediately alerted the 5th fighter wing at Basa airbase to be vigilant and conduct a sky patrol over the northern Luzon, and the navy, and air force in Palawan in case the conflict spilled into the Spratly islands, a new dual use airport that can accommodate huge cargo aircraft, radar, and listening post station at Batanes island in Northern Philippines built and funded by the United States Military for joint use with the AFP were immediately placed on red alert

The Philippines is just coming out of economic crisis, although she had finally licked her chronic budget deficit, her military modernization program is still in the drawing board because every grandstanding politician wants to have a say in the AFP modernization. On the bright side the PAF is now armed with 18 KFIR, 18 F5E, and 12 F1 Mirage fighters. The PN is now armed with 15 locally built missile boats including 6 corvettes, built by the Cebu based shipyards. The Philippine Army is now equipped with NATO standard combat gear.

Prior to the invasion and unknown to the Filipino people, President Mar Roxas has made a secret pact with US President Arnold Schwarzenegger to secretly support the US forces in case the US decided to come to the rescue of Taiwan. But it was a pact with a price; President Roxas shrewdly demanded that the US must give a debt relief to the Philippines 80 billion-dollar foreign debt, including a 1% only tariff for its agricultural, garments, and electronic export, new loan guarantee, the transfer of 36 F/A18E fighters, 48 blackhawk helicopters, and 5 C130 to the PAF, and the transfer of 8 mothballed frigates and destroyers to the PN. The US reluctantly agreed on a condition that the Philippine’s support for the conflict must be firmed, solid, or an all out support. President Roxas agreed that support for the United States, and Taiwan would be unconditional, but it is a kind of support that he would neither confirm nor deny to avoid constitutional question.

The US air force secretly based over 100 VSTOL F35, and F/A22 multi role fighters all over central and northern Luzon and 1 squadron of F/A18E fighters in Palawan; some of the fighters were openly parked at Basa and Clark air force base, under the pretense of joint military exercise with the PAF. The US navy also deployed 8 P3C surveillance and anti submarine aircraft armed with harpoon, tomahawk, and torpedoes in the US built airport in General Santos city in Mindanao. Its mission is to protect US warships passing through the Malacca strait and China Sea from the PLAN submarines based in Hainan. The US military also secretly based all over the northern and western Luzon a new aircraft the robotic UCAV or Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle. UCAV purpose is to effectively and affordably prosecute 21st century lethal strike missions within the emerging global command and control architecture. The operational UCAV system is envisioned as a force enabler that will conduct Suppression of Enemy Air Defense (SEAD) and strike missions in support of post-2010 manned strike packages

At 0730 hours the PLA finally landed on the western, southern, and northern Taiwan, PLA commandos stage a deadly sabotage and behind enemy line operation. Hundreds of thousands of PLA soldiers hit the beaches; tanks, IFV, and artillery began rolling out the barge, hovercraft, and LST. The Taiwanese army was not surprised at the landing site; intelligence report including non stop flight of UAV armed with hellfire missiles and US satellite reconnaissance, monitored the exact spot where the PLA intend to land. Within 2 kilometers of actual landing at the shore Taiwanese artillery, land based anti ship missiles, multiple launch rocket system, cobra, and apache attack helicopters, ground attack jets, began its bloody massacre of the PLA. Historians would later describe it as the massacre at the sea, but the PLA soldiers were admired even by their Taiwanese enemies for their tenacity, patriotism, and bravery, undaunted by the massacre of the meat grinding war machine of the Taiwanese army, the PLA continued its attack this time supported by the missile launching boats, submarines, and land based missiles firing their weapons beyond the horizon. But it was of little use because the Taiwanese army was heavily camouflaged, dug in, and scattered, The PLA beached landing in western Taiwan was a debacle. At 1100 hours there was a breakthrough in Northern Taiwan, the PLA managed to land successfully and push away the brave Taiwanese army, MBT and IFV began rolling through the Taiwanese capital of Taipei intent to capture the Taiwanese president, the seat of government, parliament, and the general staff of the Taiwanese military. The Chinese believe that the capture of Taipei would demoralize the Taiwanese army. But the opposite happened, the threat of the capital’s capture galvanized the whole Taiwanese army to fight to the last man, fierce tank battles were seen near the capital. But Taiwan’s rugged terrain works in favor of the Taiwanese army they ambushed many of the PLA tanks.

i think china will stop bullying its small neighbors and weaken its claim on spratly when this scenario will happen...

we are not advocating war here, its just a "what if" scenario posted by el_commandante from timawa.net

PART 1 (posted by EL COMMANDANTE FROM TIMAWA.NET)

Guys, if you have the time please read this post, Very Happy  take note I am not advocating a war here. I was already admonished by Opus for this. I wrote this post to serve as an outline for the book that I am planning to write, if I find the time. I would need your suggestion, inputs, and criticism.


GLOSSARY
PROC: People’s Republic of China
PLA: People’s Liberation Army
PLAAF: People’s Liberation Army Air force
PLAN: People’s Liberation Army Navy
ChiCom: Chinese communist


Republic of China or ROC   Taiwan’s official name
ROCAF: Republic of China Air Force



A scenario of US, China conflict.

China’s emerging status as a superpower is undeniable. Her rapid economic expansion makes her a manufacturing giant; in technology she is fast catching up with the west, Japan, and Korea, China in fact has recently acquired the pc unit of IBM corporation. China is now the third country to launch a manned mission in the space, and is expected to launch a manned mission on the moon within twenty years.

The USA can sneer that they landed on the moon first in 1969. But the US must remember that was 36 years ago, since then the growth of space exploration has stunted. China’s space agency has a yearly budget of only 2 billion dollars, while NASA’s yearly budget is bigger than the Philippine foreign debt. Imagine if China’s space agency has a budget of just half of NASA’s budget, she could send a manned mission to mars!

So why am I telling this? Because space is the future battleground of the USA and China, for technological supremacy, it maybe good for mankind because space exploration has commercial and military application.

Taiwan no doubt is the main thorn in the US, China relations, but even if Taiwan reunified peacefully with China, rivalry between US and China would remain not because of China’s communist ideology. It is because man cannot live without a rival, future enemy, and traditional enemy. Like the Greek and Turkish rivalry, Japan versus China, Russia and Korea. The Arabs versus the Jews, Kurds, and Christians. Since China is the only country that could threaten the US sole status as a superpower therefore it is only logical for the US to prevent that from happening at all cost. This is the reason why the USA would come to the rescue of Taiwan in the event of Chinese invasion, China has Hong Kong already, and a combined China, HK, and Taiwan economy is a nightmare for the USA.

The year is 2016, in this scenario; China now the third largest economy in the world after Japan, invaded Taiwan (disguised as a mere military exercise) after announcing its intention to declare independence, which is not really surprising because, Taiwan for years had been insisting that it is separate from China. Unable to defend herself Taiwan beg the US to come to her rescue, The US would come to Taiwan’s rescue anyway even if Taiwan do not ask for it explicitly. Prior to the invasion of Taiwan, Chinese commercial vessels are expected to block the Panama canal, and Suez canal by deliberately sabotaging the ships while passing through that canals. The US navy carrier battle group in the mediterranean and Atlantic would be unable to come quickly to the rescue of Taiwan, because of the mammoth obstacles in the canals that are made of steel.

Prior to the invasion, China’s communist ally North Korea under pressure from China would raise its alert status by moving nearly a million troops, thousand’s of artillery, tanks, and IFV near the DMZ separating North Korea to South Korea. Nokor air force is flying close to the border with activated radar, Nokor navy ships flagrantly intruded the sea border separating the two Korea. The purpose of this provocative action by North Korea and China is to tie up the US forces in South Korea, and Japan, thus preventing the US forces to automatically come to the rescue of Taiwan fearing that North Korea might attack South Korea.
Taiwan is expected to fight with ferocity of a lion; she has one of the best air force in Asia such as the F16, Mirage 2000, and Ching Kuo fighters, though ageing already Taiwan periodically upgrade its fleet of about 550 aircraft thus attaining an operational readiness of 90%. But the Taiwanese navy is no match for its giant rival. The eight diesel submarines ordered by Taiwan from the United States could not be completed because of internal politics, and when the order for the acquisition of submarines was finally given a go signal by the Taiwanese government it was too late! The invasion has just begun, (code name: operation Dragon’s reach) but Taiwan has six La Fayette class stealth frigates, nine second hand ex USN frigates and destroyers, two ageing Dutch made submarine and ten squadron of locally developed missile boats equipped with harpoon ASM and indigenously developed missile system, definitely no match to PLAN’s powerful submarine fleet of about forty, a combination of seventy five destroyers, and frigates, including Russian made destroyers, and thousands of missile boats and hovercraft for beachhead landing. (Like the Normandy beachhead landing)

In this scenario, at about 0200 hours Christmas day, China pursuant to the implementation of its tough anti secession law and using it as one of the justifications for the invasion, launched a barrage of surface-to-surface missiles, a mix of Chinese, and Russian made, to Taiwanese cities, military installations and bases. (On another angle this is not really an invasion, Taiwan is part of China, the UN and the whole world recognize China’s sovereignty over Taiwan. Therefore this action by China is a mere enforcement of the law.) Chinese warplanes such as SU27SK, SU30MK, heavy bombers, J8 and J10 fighters whose production China had just completed for a total of 900 aircraft replacing the ageing J7 fighters, flew in a coordinated attack to establish air superiority with the SU30Mk armed with anti ship sunburn missile devoted to hunt Taiwanese navy ships. In this air and naval attack China is guided by five radar planes, the Chinese version of AWACS acquired with some technical assistance from Israel, Russia, and Europe when the latter partially lifted its arms embargo against China. Included in this air armada are twelve air refueling tanker a converted Boeing aircraft. The US knew that China is converting the aircraft to flying fuel tanker, but has decided to keep silent about it for fearing it might lose the huge Chinese market for commercial aircraft.

The sky over the Taiwan strait (it is more than a hundred miles separating China from Taiwan) was filled by more than four hundred warplanes, And in the sea, thousands of ships including commandeered commercial ships loaded with armored infantry vehicles, and Type 90 main battle tanks sailed toward Taiwan, and in the tiny Taiwanese island of Quemoy, the island nearest to China than Taiwan. This tiny island is Taiwan’s first line of defense against China.

Taiwan, and the US knew that the invasion was imminent but could not agree when exactly it would be launched, but they were not caught off guard, alerted of the incoming fighters, and bombers by the ROCAF AWACS flying 24 hours a day, Taiwan immediately launch its F16A, Mirage2000 and Ching Kuo fighters a total of 235 fighters. Within minutes of detecting each other over the Taiwan straits, the Chinese and Taiwanese fighters launched a salvo of beyond visual range or BVR missiles (R-77 versus AMRAAM) against each other, but effective counter measure such as electronic, radar jamming, and decoys by ROCAF defeated the first salvo of BVR missiles by the PLAAF, only a few of the ROCAF fighters were shot down by the R-77 missile, not to be outdone the PLAAF fighters are armed also with counter measure although not as effective like the Taiwanese fighters. In the initial air-to-air engagement the ROCAF fighters shot down about 23 percent of the PLAAF fighters, but the PLAAF numerical superiority and aided by PLAN destroyers firing SAM to the ROCAF fighters negates Taiwan’s advantage in electronic warfare technology. Airpower historians later would describe it as the largest radar missile shootout ever. Soon both sides are now on the visual range, this time dogfighting skill, and maneuverability of the aircraft would play a big role in this knife fight. In a show of superb flying skill by the Taiwanese pilots, The ROCAF dominated the knife fight, but the dogfight was very difficult on both sides because it was nighttime and visual contact even with NVG is still limited. The similarity between the J10 and F16 made it more difficult on both sides to shoot at each other; during the rumble of the ROCAF and PLAAF fighters, as a result some of the fighters were victims of friendly fire. Bright flashes indicating a hit could be seen everywhere, missile shots from the sidewinder and PL-8 was like a shooting stars flying horizontally. The ROCAF eventually won this round, but it was a Pyrric victory some 40 percent of its fighters were shot down. The PLAAF before fleeing did manage to fire some of its cruise missiles heading to Taiwan inflicting only minor damages, because most of the cruise missiles were intercepted by the land based CIWS.

nice post sir!

nice post

OCD obsessive-compulsive disorder

we cannot kill fire with fire same as we cannot prevent killings with killings! death penalty para nako is savage, cruel, inhuman ug degrading! ultimate denial of human right! samot na sa Pilipinas wlay klaro ang hustisya, bacin kitang mga inosente maapil sa death penalty!

unethical treatment of animal! sucks!

Once a Scout always a Scout. An eagle scout here! Batch 2002, Bohol Coucil!

i think the air force is focusing first in acquiring counter insurgency aircrafts. according to timawa.net, 8 sokol helicopters are due to be delivered this 1st quarter of 2011

uh-1h? another Vietnam war vintage helicopters!

Quote from: -<GEC348>- on September 20, 2010, 02:56:55 AM

Tubig gone

with regards to tubigon water problem, The LGU application for a multi-million peso loan for waterworks expansion and upgrading (for a 24 hr. water service) was approved early this year. Hope the project will commence before the year ends.

ang lami kaayo nga mga lambay, kaon-kaon sa skies the limit ug singko lugaw kilid sa plaza, weekly nga lingaw-lingaw ug pasundayag sa plaza, tinuig nga lambay jam concert, ang samaw kaayo nga mga xmas lights sa plaza kung xmass season, daghang dili mangatulog kay magtamtambay sa mga 24 hrs inuman stores ug magbuntagay ug dula sa mga internet cafes. at labaw sa tanan, sa mga maanyag nga mga dalaga. Mao na ako life sa una! Miss it!

syempre, home sweet home! Tubignons are always proud of our town.

TUBIGON HYMN

I.

Ang lungsod nga Tubigon, mapasigarbohon
Yuta’ng mabulukon, gasa nga bililhon
Kadagatan, kayuta-an bahandianon
Dinuyugan sa bendisyon sa mahal natong Patron

REFRAIN:

Ang lungsod nga Tubigon, yuta’ng matahom
Halapad nga kadagatan
Sa mga isla gidayandayanan
Magarbohon nga kabungturan
Kakahoyan, kaumahan

II.

Ang Tubignon maabi-abihon
Sa dumuduong
Pagpangga ug kasadya
Idalit sa tanan

( REPEAT REFRAIN )

Mahal namong Tubigon
Yuta’ng matahom
Amo ka nga ampingan
Sa adlaw nga tanan.

Mahal namong Tubigon
Yuta’ng matahom
Amo kang alagaran
Oh yuta’ng bulahan

Amo kang alagaran
Oh yuta’ng bulahan

kung moadto kog cebu, mag tubigon nalang ko 45 mins in fastcraft @ 200 pesos abot na, kay sa moadto pag jetafe, then padulong tabok sa cordova, mactan island, then paingon sa cebu city, perte pang hasula!

yeah, i'm busy fixing computers. laagan man pud diay ka bay lorenzo, parehas ta

fast crafts now serve tubigon-cebu route

starcraft 1
starcraft 2
island fastcraft
sea jet 1

reach cebu in 45 mins at 180.00 - 200.00 pesos

or you can take cheap conventional and roro vessels at the lowest price of 75 to 170.00

kada oras, adunay biyahe

kapersky, avast 5.0, nindot man tanan mga anti-virus, just keep it updated. puede pud ka mag deep freeze e partition lang ang hard disk para maka save ka sa laing partition

naay mga viruses dili matangtang sa mga standard anti-virus, mogamit ko usahay ug leerz noob killer, philippine maid plus tune up utilities

thank you very much lorenzo, hope to see philippine navy's new modern ships acquisations docked at tubigon port! i like the one you posted about the philippine navy.

avast 5.0

syempre si mackoy

katong gi awardan me isip eagle scout didto sa meredian hotel, tagbilaran city

ako ni himoon private teacher para ako ray... hehe

50 mins - 1 hr -starcraft 2
45 mins - starcraft 1
45 mins - seajet 1
1 hr - island fastcraft

katlo-an ug duha ka mga baboy - fat32 = A file system of Windows

and of course, Make CHED reinstall the ROTC training for all male and female students not only to instill patriotism among the young but to condition and keep these young bodies at tip top physical condition;

we can modernise the army first because we are involve in an insurgency conflict then the navy because we are an archipelago ... then air force


1) improve intel like stationary radars scattered around the islands and naval lookouts
2) buy radar ships which can also be use for weather forcasting   
3) buy ships like corvettes good for a coastal navy only but missile / torpedo firing, Fast attack crafts also that are armed with misslles are good for naval defense.
4) search and rescue ships, to double as hospital ships
5) transport ships since we are archipelago , we need to transport soldiers where they are needed

effective for military, civil defense and disaster

your are correct lorenzo, but i still believe that the philippines will be a regional power, but before that, we must first resolve our economic, insurgency and internal security problems. Yes, at this time we are not capable of waging war against our mighty neighbors. Our neighbors were already building up and modernizing their armed forces, yet we still remain the weakest military in the region, thats one of the reasons why nations keep on bullying us. AFP modernization is a must! we are on the bottom in military spending, just a small amount of our budget goes to defense. Our defense must be atleast capable of sinking fleets of ships in the celebes before they can reach philippines, at least interceps war planes heading their way to our airspace. We got the mineral resources, we got the best manpower, we got the brains, we got the courage. In due time, i hope will be a great nation. Because Rich Countries are pushing little nations with their fully automatics, they like to push the weak around. If we are not doing this, time might come that we become the jews in hitlers holocust.

check this out    www.globalfirepower.com
we are rank 31st in the world on war capabilities

will take sabah by force!!! will envade sabah!!! and thats it! its the only way!!! can our AFP do it with our low tech armed forces weapons and firepower? hehehE!! technically wise, we are capable! the only way to modernized our armed forces is to go into war!!

wla naman ko kaabot ni mam ceballos, ako idol kaniadto si the late sir israel!!! si sir boligor pud!! hehehe!!!! lisud iya math!!! ehehe

pero overall champion gihapon ang HCA pag BACS MEET 2009

murag third man guro ang taga HCA ato nga tym ni farah. Murag c Rufa Ballori ang me represent sa HCA, nga taga potohan. Basta naapil ang HCA sa top 3. katong si Yumo ang na miss BACS, apil ko ato nga BACS meet, didto to nga tym gi held sa Tagbi. Gen. Info. ko nga contestant ato, napilde lang ko!!! ahehe

st. isidore ko nga section! fourth year ko, third year guro ka! sapphire ka? or ruby?

batch 2002 ko!!!

sa holy cross ko graduate

Ovaltine jud ako, kahibaw mo, una pa ang ovaltine sa MILO, kay ang meaning sa MILO mao ni:

M - Masarap
I - Inumin
L - Lasang
O - Ovaltine

wla kay "ngano ba" sa missing filemon gihapon? Astig kaayo na nga song

another pic of Ms. Faye Mian of Holy Family of Nazareth School- Tubigon

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ako manang classmate si abigail juanich crush na sa ako migo nga si randy

palihug kog post sa picture sa new market beh, dugay najud ko wla ka anha dha da!!! try nako visit sa ako next road trip sa south sa bohol!

mao gane migamay ang IRA ron tungod sa mga siyudad nga dili pa angayan!!! louy ang mga gagmayng lungsod, wla pay local income, kibrahan pa ang IRA. sagdi lang nang ubay, tubigon, talibon etc. kay dako na cla ug local income source!!!! pero i think dili pa jud angayan

CY's Department Stores got branches in tUBIGON AND
uBAY

ISAGANI

I - im
S- so
A-angry
G-given
A-a
N-name
I-isagani

5 years from now i'll be 29! hehehe

bacin endangered species na nang tirong or extinct na!!!

murag dili na matarog makinaria ni rene sa first district!! mao ning makinarya ang gigamit ni yul lopez paglansad niyag board member. gasolina nalay kulang modagan na!!! kinahanglan jud maningkamot si bert sal sa tubigon, calape, loon, maribojoc, tagbilaran, ug albur kay murag dili siya popular didto!! sa tubigon, calape ug loon murag mas kusog si rene

an old urban legend?

unsa man jud nang tirong? nakahinumdum ko sa una, moingon atong mga katigulangan, "ajaw ug kiat, ilawg jud ka sa tirong ron!" unsa ug kinsay nakakita anang tirong? mananap na? or makina?

mingaw na ang formula 1. pareha sa MOTOGP nga mi pull-out pud ang KAWASAKI perte nakong guola!

if i were from calape, loon, clarin, catigbian ug uban pang layo  jetafe, mo prefer japon ko ug barko sa tubigon. kay murag it takes one hour ug 3 min kapin biyahe gkan sa amo padulong sa jetafe, then murag 30 mins cguro gkan sa jetafe tabok bridge to cordova, then cordova to cebu city, pila pud ka oras? naapa trapik! Mas pabor kung naa tay sakyanan kaugalingon, pero kung mag commute ta, tubigon - cebu nalang ko, dali pa 40 minutes ra fastcraft!!! hehehE, puera ra sa hangin-hangin. Murag mobarato ani plete RORO ug barko tubigon-cebu ani bah!

pastilan jud ning gugma daghang nawong!!!!
naay moingon " kung nahigugma ka, ipaglaban!"
naay poy moingon " kung nahigugma ka, let her go!"
naay moingon "love is blind"
naa poy miingon "love sees beyond what eyes can see!"

ironic jud kaayo!!!!!

murag namatikdan nako glacier da nga murag hilig ka sa topic nga gugma2x!! ahehe! pareha diay ta!!!!