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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #280 on: May 13, 2011, 11:30:43 AM »
Wa tay relasyon pero dool ko sa mga Lungay tungod ni Tia Sophia. Panahon sa pista sa Balilihan mamista ko sa una uban nila ni Monet ug Iko. Katapusang anha nako sa Balilihan gida ko ni Emay ug Conchita [puro na intawon hinglalin] didto ila ka Nimia.

Sakto ka, ambugon tong ilaha ug Matig-a St. na karon na. Manghud ka kaayo nako. Talirungan nako si Grace. Si Dodong ug si Boy dugay na nako tong wa ikita. Sakto pud ka nga imong lolo Ayong pro Marcos kaayo ug gi zero si Macapagal ni Marcos sa Balilihan niadtong election sa 1965. Si imong lolo Ayong ang gidudahan nga nag maniobra.

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Produkto jud siguro diay kas 1950's nga mga brayt sama nila Nene Borja, Nick Lungay, Bradd Pitt Lungay ug uban pa sa Bohol High (or Bolhi ba?)... maski sa ilang panahon puros mga himasa ug anad mo-maningles.

Thanks for reminding me of Monet kay nakalimot najod kos kadugay sa panahon ug kining nag edaran na. Siya man tong pulis no? Kadtos Iko nuon di jud ko makalimot; he was my basketball idol in the late 60s and early 70s.  When I went to play senior varsity basketball referee na lang tawon tos IKo kay nag edaran naman.


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« Reply #281 on: May 13, 2011, 11:56:23 AM »
Si Monet patay na pud intawon ni sija. Ang iyang asawa si Bebe tua ni sa amerika karon. Ang bay ni Monet naa sa Cogon ug atbang sa bay ni Gov. Aumentado. Si Errol ako pud nang ig-agaw.

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Apil diay nis Calcetas Boyz si Monet ug si Gov, BQN? LoL  ;D


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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #282 on: May 13, 2011, 12:18:46 PM »
Produkto jud siguro diay kas 1950's nga mga brayt sama nila Nene Borja, Nick Lungay, Bradd Pitt Lungay ug uban pa sa Bohol High (or Bolhi ba?)... maski sa ilang panahon puros mga himasa ug anad mo-maningles.

Thanks for reminding me of Monet kay nakalimot najod kos kadugay sa panahon ug kining nag edaran na. Siya man tong pulis no? Kadtos Iko nuon di jud ko makalimot; he was my basketball idol in the late 60s and early 70s.  When I went to play senior varsity basketball referee na lang tawon tos IKo kay nag edaran naman.



Kadto si Monet bombero to sija. Si Iko gibantug sa basketball. Sa tinood lang kadtong style niya moduwa iya ra jud to. Maski sa PBA wa'y pareho niya ug style.

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« Reply #283 on: May 13, 2011, 12:46:09 PM »
Si Monet patay na pud intawon ni sija. Ang iyang asawa si Bebe tua ni sa amerika karon. Ang bay ni Monet naa sa Cogon ug atbang sa bay ni Gov. Aumentado. Si Errol ako pud nang ig-agaw.

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Waa jud ko kahibaw nga mibiya na diay si Monet. (RIP) O, si Ma'am Bebe ang iyang asawa nga among maestra sa Cogon Annex. Ang balay nila ni Nong Gawden nga Papa ni Bebe naa dinha du-ol ila Lamdagan ug nagbalay sila didto du-ol sa amoa ug ila Gov. Si Errol, permi ko kita niya diri kai moangay pod ug POKER sa casino ;) Kadto si Iko, permi ko kita adto moduwa ug basketball adto didto sa capitolyo, didto sa may DPWH. Si Errol du-ol du-ol rami ug gipoy-an diri. Kaila ko niya, pero siya waa kaila nako.

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« Reply #284 on: May 13, 2011, 12:49:17 PM »
Apil diay nis Calcetas Boyz si Monet ug si Gov, BQN? LoL  ;D


Pad'z, si Monet adtong bata pako, naa nato sa Fire dep't nag trabaho. Unya nagbalay sila didto dapit sa amoa ug kang Gov...

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #285 on: May 13, 2011, 12:57:41 PM »
does it mean that bohol had no electricity prior to 1965, when marcos first ran for president?

Not the country side. The city lang , pero perting mo brown out kono. My maternal grandfather told me that before Marcos time, Valencia would be 'shut' in the dark because that was before electricity circulated throughout the probinsya. After Marcos implemented a greater electric grid in the province (through his projects), for the first time in Bohol's history, power and electricity was available to most of the towns outside the reaches of Tagbilaran.



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« Reply #286 on: May 13, 2011, 01:02:47 PM »
Tagbilaran and places like Cortes and Loboc were already electricuted aw electrolux aw electrified diay prior to martial Law  ;D


Of course, kai provincial seat gud ang Tagbilaran. Pero dili proficient daw, ug kalingaw mo brown out. My dad used to tell me how my paternal grandfather (papa titing) used to order the maids and house help to buy extra candles and gas lanterns in case of brown out. lol.

Palamuut kono kai sa una, during a fiesta, nag brown out kono (morag 1973 man toh), ang Provincial Governor at the time, as well as the Provincial Treasurer where in attendance at my family residence (both of whom were the godfathers) of my uncles: Dr. Renee Lucino and Engr. Rogelio Lucino. Ning brown out kono for a bit, pero power was re-established. My papa titing joked with the Provincial Governor, "Pare, unsa gud ni oy!" hahaha. They were very good friends..... :)

When Marcos' projects--one of whom were the power dams and the establishment of a greater power grid for the province,--it was so appreciated by many Bol-anons that he (Marcos) became a household name.

My father tells me that during Marcos' early years, he was a good president. However, corruption increased during his later years.

My father's side of the family were strong Marcos supporters.

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« Reply #287 on: May 13, 2011, 01:16:06 PM »
My father used to tell me of the projects that Marcos implemented in Bohol. For the first time kono, Bohol had electricity , prior to Marcos it was not so, after Marcos it was. The infrastructural projects during Marcos' time spearheaded the development of Bohol Province. A good friend of our family-- the former Gov. Chatto and Torralba used to talk to my paternal grandfather about the situations in Bohol. At the time these said men were supporters of Marcos.

There were some positives he gave to the province as well as negatives.


Lorenzo,

Your father was right... because Marcos was a dictator he commanded; let there be light! And NEA was formed and there was light all over the Philippines. Hehehe....

Kidding aside... Bohol during the time of Pres. Garcia built the Tontonan Hydro Electric Plant but the power is too low that it was supported by a generator installed in Dampas. The power of Tontonan can not generate power all over Bohol.

Really the truth is; the development of our country culminated at the start of Martial Law. And the main thrust of Marcos was to industrialize our country. To achieve this is to develop sustainable power for industrialization. So NEA was formed. Infrastructure in our country was in a faster pace of development through Marcos rule by decree... whereas before Martial Law enabling laws were marred in endless debate in congress.

When Marcos visited Bohol after he declared Martial Law he asked all the town mayors that were gathered at the Garcia Stadium listening to  his speech. Marcos asked; "what road in Bohol is not passable?" One mayor from the eastern part of the province raised his hands and said that a part of the road going to his town is not passable. Marcos again asked; "who is the district engineer?" The mayor answered; Engr. Modesto Butalid Mr. President. On that very moment Engr. Modesto Butalid was fetched in his house to answer Marcos why that road is not passable.

That was Marcos!

But today when Garci or Lacson is summoned to face the court they cannot be found because they're hiding. Angelo Reyes went to the extreme of taking his own life just to evade to answer questions from congress. Hehehe....

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #288 on: May 13, 2011, 01:16:59 PM »
Produkto jud siguro diay kas 1950's nga mga brayt sama nila Nene Borja, Nick Lungay, Bradd Pitt Lungay ug uban pa sa Bohol High (or Bolhi ba?)... maski sa ilang panahon puros mga himasa ug anad mo-maningles.

Thanks for reminding me of Monet kay nakalimot najod kos kadugay sa panahon ug kining nag edaran na. Siya man tong pulis no? Kadtos Iko nuon di jud ko makalimot; he was my basketball idol in the late 60s and early 70s.  When I went to play senior varsity basketball referee na lang tawon tos IKo kay nag edaran naman.


What a small world.

It explains why Sir Way Nada is so accurate with historical dates, names, and political processes in tandem. Bright man diay iyahang batch. hehe. Kuyawan lagi ko kai sa una (i think 3 years ago) he engaged in a discussion with me regarding Marcos and his responses were not only very intellectual but accurate in terms of chronological dates (as i would re-check his info through google search).

Way Nada also battled with me before in the discussion regarding Climate Change / Global Warming. His answers were very well worded and well researched.



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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #289 on: May 13, 2011, 01:28:24 PM »

Lorenzo,

Your father was right... because Marcos was a dictator he commanded; let there be light! And NEA was formed and there was light all over the Philippines. Hehehe....

Kidding aside... Bohol during the time of Pres. Garcia built the Tontonan Hydro Electric Plant but the power is too low that it was supported by a generator installed in Dampas. The power of Tontonan can not generate power all over Bohol.

Really the truth is; the development of our country culminated at the start of Martial Law. And the main thrust of Marcos was to industrialize our country. To achieve this is to develop sustainable power for industrialization. So NEA was formed. Infrastructure in our country was in a faster pace of development through Marcos rule by decree... whereas before Martial Law enabling laws were marred in endless debate in congress.

When Marcos visited Bohol after he declared Martial Law he asked all the town mayors that were gathered at the Garcia Stadium listening to  his speech. Marcos asked; "what road in Bohol is not passable?" One mayor from the eastern part of the province raised his hands and said that a part of the road going to his town is not passable. Marcos again asked; "who is the district engineer?" The mayor answered; Engr. Modesto Butalid Mr. President. On that very moment Engr. Modesto Butalid was fetched in his house to answer Marcos why that road is not passable.

That was Marcos!

But today when Garci or Lacson is summoned to face the court they cannot be found because they're hiding. Angelo Reyes went to the extreme of taking his own life just to evade to answer questions from congress. Hehehe....

WN


I think my father, Engr. Rico Lucino, would like you and enjoy a conversation with you as you both seem to have very similar opinions on the subject. He is also a staunch Marcos supporter.

The Philippines, as he tells me, is so diverse and so different in its own dynamic that it cannot function without a strong handed government. Marcos' strong iron hand was necessary at that particular time.

During the time when Martial Law was implemented , South Vietnam was being abandoned by the United States as North Vietnam continued to pound and win over the country until South Vietnam collapsed with the fall of Saigon in 1975. As communism spread through Laos, Cambodia and infiltrated to Thailand, Malaysia. The situation was so dire that even in Thailand , too, experienced an iron handed government. Thai Prime Minister Thanom Kittikachorn , himself, suspended the Thai Parliament because of the national inability to control the Communist threat in the north (near Chiang Mai and the border of Laos). Thanom even went so much as to elect himself as the Chairman of the Thai National Security so as to make sure to assess the threat the country experienced. Marcos' imposition of Martial Law in 1973 was (at the time) necessary since the country was itself battling the Communist NPA rebellion as well as the Muslim Separatist War with Nur Misuari's MNLF. The country, as we know it, was indeed in an imminent national crisis.

And considering South Vietnam's ultimate collapse in 1975, can we really blame why Marcos implmented Martial Law? Communism was indeed a real threat. Martial Law was necessary, at the time. In regards to Eisenhower's Domino Theory, if policies were not enacted to prevent the spread of communism, then the Philippines (a major non-Nato ally of the United States and a major member of the Free World in Asia) would fall to Communism as did South Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos.

It is so easy for us to debate otherwise now. Hindsight is always perfect.

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Re: Late President Marcos To Be Buried in Libingan Ng Mga Bayani?
« Reply #290 on: May 13, 2011, 01:38:05 PM »



When Marcos visited Bohol after he declared Martial Law he asked all the town mayors that were gathered at the Garcia Stadium listening to  his speech. Marcos asked; "what road in Bohol is not passable?" One mayor from the eastern part of the province raised his hands and said that a part of the road going to his town is not passable. Marcos again asked; "who is the district engineer?" The mayor answered; Engr. Modesto Butalid Mr. President. On that very moment Engr. Modesto Butalid was fetched in his house to answer Marcos why that road is not passable.

That was Marcos!




Hehehe. Tinuod diay ni. This is what my father told me many years back when I asked him what kinds of things did Marcos do for Bohol Island Province.

And I believe the mayor from eastern Bohol was the mayor from Guindulman. ;)

After that, Guindulman's roads were passable.

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« Reply #291 on: May 13, 2011, 03:04:41 PM »



Balingsyano a.k.a. Ciano Baleleng nag-andam nas iyang WMD

Sophisticated na ang subsequent generations...





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« Reply #292 on: May 13, 2011, 03:09:54 PM »

Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos (September 11, 1917 – September 28, 1989) was 10th President of the Philippines from 1965 to 1986. He was a lawyer, member of the Philippine House of Representatives (1949–1959) and a member of the Philippine Senate (1959–1965). He was Senate President in 1963. He claimed to have led a guerrilla force called Ang Maharlika in northern Luzon during the Second World War, something much doubted however to be true. As Philippine president and strongman, his greatest achievement was in the fields of infrastructure development and international diplomacy. However, his administration was marred by massive authoritarian corruption, despotism, nepotism, political repression, and human rights violations. He benefited from a large personality cult in the Philippines during his regime. In 1983, his government was implicated in the assassination of his primary political opponent, Benigno Aquino, Jr.. The implication caused a chain of events, including a tainted presidential election that served as the catalyst for the People Power Revolution in February 1986 that led to his removal from power and eventual exile in Hawaii. It was later alleged that he and his wife Imelda Marcos had moved billions of dollars of embezzled public funds to the United States, Switzerland, and other countries, as well as into alleged corporations during his 20 years in power. -- http://ferdinand-marcos.co.tv/

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« Reply #293 on: May 13, 2011, 03:17:21 PM »

He benefited from a large personality cult in the Philippines during his regime.

Hangtod karon daghan gihapon ang nagmatag morning... :P

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« Reply #294 on: May 13, 2011, 09:08:14 PM »
Hangtod karon daghan gihapon ang nagmatag morning... :P

Bai HB, ako nagmata nako kai morning naman. BUT, im not one of them :D

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« Reply #295 on: May 13, 2011, 10:54:24 PM »
Hehehe. Tinuod diay ni. This is what my father told me many years back when I asked him what kinds of things did Marcos do for Bohol Island Province.

And I believe the mayor from eastern Bohol was the mayor from Guindulman. ;)

After that, Guindulman's roads were passable.

Agree.


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« Reply #296 on: May 14, 2011, 06:28:14 AM »
Bai HB, ako nagmata nako kai morning naman. BUT, im not one of them :D

He he, bitaw Bay BQN, mahitungod aning puntoha mahimong atong usbon ang pasumbingay ug ingnon nga adunay tulo ka klase sa tawo: naay 1) dugay rang nagmata ug mibangon na, 2) nagligadligad ug nagpiyopngpiyong bisag nagmata na kay gustong tagamtamon pa ang tam-is nga damgo, ug 3) kusog pa kaayo ang hagok.

:)

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« Reply #297 on: May 14, 2011, 06:48:00 AM »
He he, bitaw Bay BQN, mahitungod aning puntoha mahimong atong usbon ang pasumbingay ug ingnon nga adunay tulo ka klase sa tawo: naay 1) dugay rang nagmata ug mibangon na, 2) nagligadligad ug nagpiyopngpiyong bisag nagmata na kay gustong tagamtamon pa ang tam-is nga damgo, ug 3) kusog pa kaayo ang hagok.

:)

 Ang lisod ani Bai, ug mibangon nah! pero naghagok pa :D

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« Reply #298 on: May 14, 2011, 07:02:31 AM »

Ang lisod ani Bai, ug mibangon nah! pero naghagok pa :D

Ang mas lisod pa jud, Bay BQN, kon mibangon na bisag naghagok pa, unya nagpamembro sa Tubag Bohol! Bwahaha! ;D

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« Reply #299 on: May 14, 2011, 06:40:44 PM »
Unsay ma wala kong ilubong si President Marcos sa libingan ng bayani. Naa bay makuhang kaayuhan ang Pilipinas kong dili ilubong sa L ng mga Bayani.

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