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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2011, 11:43:47 AM »

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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2011, 01:23:56 PM »

this indeed is one h-e-l-l of a piece using a literary device (call it by whatever name; satire, parody, lampoon, etc.) written by young people.  and i thought they didn't care about politics!  (stupid me.  how could i forget that elsewhere they're making revolutions.)
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2011, 01:26:25 PM »
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Day of betrayal in Congress

By Amando Doronila
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04/14/2011

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Five years later, it was time to physically remove Stalin from a place of honor. Khrushchev read a decree ordering the removal of Stalin’s remains. The decree said: “The further retention of the mausoleum of sarcophagus with the bier of J.V. Stalin shall be recognized as inappropriate since the serious violations by Stalin of Lenin’s precepts, abuse of power, mass repressions against honorable Soviet people, and other activities during the period of the personality cult make it impossible to leave the bier with his body in the mausoleum of V.I. Lenin.”

“A few days later, Stalin’s body was quietly removed from the the mausoleum,” said the article. “There were no ceremonies and no fanfare. About 300 feet from the mausoleum, Stalin’s body was buried near other minor leaders of the Revolution. His body was placed near the Kremlin wall, half-hidden by trees. A few weeks later, a simple dark granite stone marked the grave with the very simple identifying mark ‘J.V. Stalin, 1879-1953.’ In 1970, a small bust was added to the grave.”

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2011, 01:31:10 PM »

The regime change after the end of the Stalin era of terror ushered in a period of political reform. Khrushchev never questioned Stalin’s role in turning back the German invasion at Stalingrad in World War II, and his status as a hero.

In the Philippines, we are taking a reverse process. The political heirs and family of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos are moving heaven and earth to reestablish the Marcos legacy after it had been overthrown by the people in the 1986 People Power Revolution. The Soviet people removed the physical monuments of the Stalinist personality cult in the campaign to exorcise the legacy of Stalin in their national memory. Here we have been doing the opposite. Instead of expunging the Marcos legacy, cohorts of the dictatorship are using the democratic institutions restored by the People Power Revolution as the staging ground to bring Marcos back to public adoration through the resolution in the House of Representatives petitioning the President to allow the burial of the Marcos remains in the cemetery of heroes.

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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2011, 01:32:54 PM »

Stalin was an authentic Soviet war hero in the Patriotic War against the German invasion. Marcos’ heroic role in the resistance movement against the Japanese Occupation has been debunked as a monumental fraud.

The day 216 representatives signed HR 1135 seeking the burial Marcos as a national hero was a day of infamy in the post-Edsa Philippine democracy. Among other things, the Marcos regime is accused of the murder of several thousand Filipinos who opposed the dictatorship. Filipinos can never live down that day of betrayal by their representatives in Congress.


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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2011, 01:37:02 PM »
Libingan: Home for the Glorious Dead
April 13, 2011

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Glorious death, bringing honor to the country, fighting for the sake of freedom and democracy… These are the people who can claim to deserve burial in the Libingan. Not just any soldier, not just any president…

Lately, Rep. Salvador Escudero III (1st District, Sorsogon-UNO) filed House Resolution 1135 seeking to urge the administration of PNoy to allow the burial of the remains of late president and strongman Ferdinand Marcos at the Libingan. He justifies in the second paragraph that Marcos was a well-decorated veteran of World War II and a survivor of the Bataan Death March, two historical claims that remained controversial for its questionable veracity. Succeeding paragraphs rattled off his membership in Congress, his presidency and his accomplishments as the longest-reigning president in the country and commander-in-chief of the Philippine armed forces.

In paragraph 7, Escudero capped the list with a claim that Marcos “remained a Filipino patriot to the end of his life and in death deserves to be honored as such.”

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But this resolution purposefully mistated the fact that the Filipino who may have been a patriot ceased to be so at the end of his life. Among those ignominous deeds of his dictatorial rule, the latest one deserved the order of the Sandiganbayan to the heirs of the Marcos estate to return the P10 million that the former president had transferred from the National Food Authority (NFA) to a private account in Security Bank on 27 July 1983.

If after all these ignominous things in the history of Marcos regime qualify for deeds that give “glory of his death” and “fights for freedom and democracy” we may as well rename Libingan with something else. And perhaps relocate the remains of those patriots, presidents and heroes of glorious repute somewhere else.

Burying Marcos in Libingan will dishonor the memory of those whose lives were offered to the country with no thought of monetary compensation, the soldiers in Corrigedor and Bataan who had to survive with no food in order to fight off the Japanese forces. Compare that to the US$ 7.5 million of sequestered assets that the US Court awarded to almost 8,000 human rights victims during his martial rule, P10 million diverted money from NFA, and still more that the Philippine government has not uncovered.

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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2011, 01:41:03 PM »

 Burying Marcos in Libingan will insult the memory of former president Carlos Garcia, who espoused the “Filipino First” policy, not “myself first” policy, in his administration.

Burying Marcos in Libingan will insult the memory of General Artemio Ricarte, the father of the Philippine Army, who never took an oath of allegiance to the occupying American forces since the Philippine Revolution and the Philippine-American War. Amidst the persecution he suffered from fellow Filipinos and the American forces, he chose to stay in the country to continue his fight, saying, “I can not take refuge in Japan at this critical moment when my people are in actual distress. I will stay in my Motherland to the last.” And he lost his life standing for his Motherland.

Burying Marcos in Libingan will insult our memory as Filipino people, especially the desaparecidos, who judged him as a scoundrel who put himself and his family before his country, and putting an end to his military-protected dictatorial rule, through the EDSA People Power Revolution in 1986.

Burying Marcos in Libingan will insult ourselves as a people. And Filipinos must demand an explanation from their district representatives who supported HR 1135 (click here for the list). It is time for the Filipinos take their stand for the indignity they suffered in the hands of the late dictator.

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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2011, 01:41:55 PM »

At the end of the day, the only way the Marcoses can redeem the honor of the deposed dictator is to have him indirectly declared a “hero” when his remains get buried at the Libingan ng mga Bayani. Who can later on dispute that the late strongman Ferdinand Marcos was not a hero when he is buried at the Cemetery of Heroes? Thereafter, it is much easier to embellish history to honor the “heroism” of someone buried in the heroes’ cemetery.

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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2011, 08:59:35 PM »

Too bad that somewhere else in the world precious youth is wasted on ego-tripping...

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« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2011, 04:12:51 PM »
Who sets the standard for a person to be proclaimed bayani? is a hero measurable? This issue is very old yet continued to exist because of the historical myths that surrounds the life of MArcos. The US govt already declared that the MAHARLIKA group allegedly formed and led by MArcos was a fraud...Isnt he a master of this? E.g The Tasaday issue which happen to be his pet project that fooled even the brightest and smartest scholars that time. Mas deserving pa yung naglililinis sa daan, ang mga balot vendors na naghahanap buhay ng maayos....WIll it make a difference if his body be buried there?

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« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2011, 10:48:41 PM »

just a squeak of an answer, junjun.  from the looks of it, it's the power elites who proclaim heroes nowadays.  it's probably their way of having the favor returned to them one day when they themselves or their kin wish to be proclaimed as heroes too, after plundering the country.

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‘Remembrancer’

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04/09/2011


IN HIS column “Speak Memory,” Cebu Daily News’ Simeon Dumdum wrote wistfully of the need for a “Remembrancer,” an official of medieval times who jogged the memories of “barons” on pending matters.

The Remembrancer also hammered issues that the “nobles” preferred to forget, Dumdum, who is a Cebu Regional Trial Court judge, recalls. In the process, the Remembrancer squelched incipient tyrannies.

Like today’s House Resolution 1135?


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« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2011, 10:54:11 PM »

Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and clan, together with Imelda Marcos, plus 210 other representatives, signed HR 1135. It badgers President Benigno Aquino III to allow a Libingan ng mga Bayani interment for the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos.

Communal amnesia would expunge all “New Society” crimes. “The Marcos family never expressed any remorse,” Inquirer’s Randy David points out. “They do not seek forgiveness.” They see HR 1135 “as a vindication of their innocence .…They want the nation to revise its remembrance of the past.”

Aquino, whose father was assassinated during the dictatorship, is asked to reverse the verdict of People Power. Also, it would shove, into an Orwellian memory shredder, various crimes—from shell foundations in Lichtenstein, fake war medals, the confiscated 60-piece Roumeliotes jewels, to the 3,257 persons “salvaged,” 737 desaparecidos, plus thousands detained without trial.


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« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2011, 10:55:59 PM »

“Forget the past,” Senators Juan Ponce Enrile, Gringo Honasan and Antonio Trillanes III kibitzed from the sidelines. “Let the country move on.” They parrot Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet (1915-2006).

Under Pinochet’s iron-fist rule, 2,279 persons were murdered by state agents. Thousands disappeared. “It is best to remain silent and forget,” Pinochet said after his extradition from the United Kingdom and imprisonment. “It is the only thing to do: we must forget.”

No, disagrees Czech author Milan Kundera. “The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting,” he writes in “The Book of Laughter and Forgetting.”


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« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2011, 10:57:19 PM »

Today’s battle for memory defines tomorrow for our grandchildren. So, bear in mind how other countries dealt with the moral debris left by dictators.

Argentina’s human rights trials forced people to discuss issues over dinner. Chile has a monument “To the Disappeared.” South Africa’s Truth Commission documented abuses even by Nelson Mandela’s wife Winnie.

Protestant and Catholic churches in Brazil published secret regime documents titled: “Brazil Nunca Mais (Brazil Never Again).” In Guatemala, Catholic bishops drew up a four-volume work “to recover historic memory” of its 30-year civil war that left 100,000 dead or disappeared.


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« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2011, 10:58:23 PM »

Here, congressmen stared blankly at the 7,526 “remembrancers.” Cebu’s Judge Meinrado Paredes and Inquirer columnist Ma. Ceres Doyo were among the Marcos victims who received token $1,000 checks awarded by the US District Court of Hawaii. Their presence recalled the Court’s decision finding Marcos “liable for systematic torture, summary executions and disappearances.”

Former Sen. Rene Saguisag is a pro-bono “Remembrancer.” The Marcoses were kleptocrats according to a Sandiganbayan decision of 2003 (406 SCRA 190), he recalled in a letter to veterans. Impunity blanketed the 169 workers’ deaths in Imelda Marcos’ Film Palace. Marcos’ daughter Imee ignored the Hawaii court’s penalty for the 1977 salvaging of Archimedes Trajano, the Mapua student who questioned the then Kabataang Barangay head.

“Marcos may not belong in the Libingan,” Saguisag added. It would be different if a new law renames the 142-hectare cemetery as Libingan ng mga Bayani at mga Pangulo.


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« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2011, 11:01:08 PM »

Saguisag’s proposal looks into the future. Even former presidents go the way of all flesh. A president convicted of plunder, or one who owned up to “Hello Garci” mucking with electoral process, may be interred without an uproar.

Will the work of all these “remembrancers” be for naught?

Social Weather Stations reports that 50 percent of Filipinos agree to a Marcos Libingan burial. And 49 percent say no.

Isn’t that a repeat of an Ateneo-Social Weather Station survey of June 1986? Conducted just after People Power, that survey found only 4 percent wanted Marcos to return from exile, and to be tried and convicted.


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Forgetting seemed preferable to “uncovering the facts, giving the nameless dead their true names and decent burial, and prosecuting the perpetrators,” Sociologist John Carroll, SJ told the 1999 Ateneo-Wisconsin University conference on “Memory, Truth-Telling and the Pursuit of Justice.” “The Philippines is a nation in denial.”

Of the 5,000 World War II collaboration cases filed with the People’s Court, only 156 ended up with a conviction. “(It) created the impression that there was no real difference between patriots and traitors. Or that it was not worth the effort to sort them out.”

In 1986, People Power drove Marcos and his cronies into exile. Serial coups battered the succeeding (Cory) Aquino administration, which survived and made a peaceful orderly transition to a duly elected government. But none of the Marcoses or coup artists were penalized. Instead, they became political and economic kingpins.

Punishment is not a matter of revenge or even justice, Father Carroll wrote. It is the community rising to reaffirm values seriously violated. “Not to react as a community would be to reduce a community’s values or ‘common conscience’ to personal preference—and invite collapse.”

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In the Philippines, willingness to forget Marcos’ massive crimes reflects weakness of common conscience, he added. “Unless, the nation rises up to vindicate and reaffirm those values, it may be condemned to wander forever in the wilderness of valueless power plays of the elite.”

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