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Quote from: jtabaco on September 08, 2008, 10:42:50 AM
jtabaco@gmail.com

btw, your email is not hidden here since you used it for your MSN id.

Quote from: Lorenzo on September 08, 2008, 09:54:19 AM
Mr. Joey,

Yea I did block it; if you send me an email I will provide you a link to my page. How's the New York weather?

Bran,

jtabaco@gmail.com

Quote from: Lorenzo on September 08, 2008, 08:21:29 AM
Mr. Joey,

I would like to add you to my friend's list in thefacebook.

As I have so much more questions to ask.

My email is: branlorenzo@gmail.com


Always,
Bran

bran...when i tried to invite you to Facebook.com, I got the following reply:

The following email address cannot be invited:

    * branlorenzo@gmail.com

did you block facebook from your gmail acct?...joey

Quote from: Lorenzo on September 08, 2008, 07:31:54 AM
This story makes me want to cry because he was in MY town! Valencia!

My late Lola Nating was part of the Guerilla Resistance, and who knows, maybe this guy knew her when she was still young.

Oh I wish I could meet this guy...

lorenzo...was wondering if the stuff i posted here got lost in the transition. glad to see it made it thru. even more happy that it made a personal connection for you!

tried to get some of the old timers on the recently revived bohol.org mailing list, since the demise of the bohol.net mailing list, over here, or even Facebook where a lot of us boomers are. Seems the gen gap is too wide for most of them beside the tech gap even tho Facebook is a lot more user friendly than Friendster or Myspace for us old timers.

my interests are a lot more varied than what tubag has to offer, tho tubag is great for Boholanon stuff. But Facebook even has a group just for Boholanos and has the apps to show your flair for Bohol, as well as for me really being a NYer...joey

It may be neither! McCain may win the Presidency no matter who the Dem nominee is. This will not be due to the Dem infighting for the party nominee turning off the Dem and independent voters. If any of you had the chance to watch the program "Stealing Democracy?" on satellite LinkTV, you will learn how the Republicans have been using underhanded and even maybe illegal means to steal the votes so that the Presidency has and will go to the Republican candidate.

Just some of the tactics the Republicans, including the Bush regime's Justice Dept, are using is to challenge Democratic voters especially if they are a racial minority, like us! By denying these voters their privilege to vote or having these votes thrown out at the polling places, or tying them up in the courts systems long enough for them not to be counted toward the election, they have and still hope to steal the Presidency.

It would behoove any registered Democrat to make sure that their voter registration is in order, especially to make sure their party registration has not been switched by some Republican shinanagan. It would also be prudent to be prepared to be ready to have you or your vote challenged at your polling place.

If you find that all this is too much of a hassle to bother to vote, then you'd better be prepared to spend the next hundred years, the next 4 at a minimum, for our country to be in Iraq and Afghanistan since US forces had been in the Philippines for longer than that. After all, it's only your tax dollars as well as the higher cost of living incurred that is being spent making the big business MIC regime members richer.

http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2008/03/23/PROV20080323120115.html

Now that the MIAA has been designated to operate Bohol International Airport at Panglao, how much of the money made from the PBIA operations will end up in Bohol and not go to Manila?

How much will the bosses of the MIAA up there in Manila care about the conditions there in Panglao when it comes down to the bottom line?

How much will they up there in Manila care about sustainability once their investment is recouped?

Quote from: preciousNpolite on March 25, 2008, 05:27:18 AM
Obama but normally I vote for Republicans I am tired of Dems infedility ways!

That's because the Republicans usually divorce their current wife before they go out and commit adultery unless they are Mormon where they just add another wife!

http://www.youtube.com/v/m0aR6cnZOWE&hl=en

Met Christine Gambito, her Italian Am husband and kid, and the rest of her Filipino side of her family when I visited Virginia Beach, VA in March of 2007 last year. She had just moved back there to her childhood home from living here in New York City on Roosevelt Island in the East River for many years.

Spent more time talking to her mom than her tho since she was a star of the show and mobbed by the crowd at the Fil Am Biznet Expo held there annually. Unlike many of us, she had never been to the Philippines before this visit. More on her at http://happyslip.com, her personal website!

As a Fil Am actor, she was recently chosen by the Philippine Dept of Tourism for a FREE trip to the RP as sort of an ambassador to the Internet and America (a hopefully wise choice of RP taxpayers funds?) to promote tourism to the RP, especially for the decedents of the diaspora like her who have never been back to the old country. Lucky for us, a major part of her trip there was to Bohol!

You can view her video "Experience Philippines! Episode 2 -Let's Dance in Bohol" at this Youtube link:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0aR6cnZOWE

In addition to YouTube and www.experiencephilippines.ph, she is also on MySpace, Friendster, Facebook and iTunes. Hope you enjoy it as I did seeing the old country province of Bohol again ...joey

Tubbattaha reef climbs to 28th in New Seven Wonders vote

By Erwin Oliva
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 16:50:00 03/19/2008

MANILA, Philippines â€" The Philippines' Tubbattaha Reef in the Sulu Sea is now ranked 28th in online voting for the New Seven Wonders of Nature.

Tubbataha Reef is an atoll coral reef in the Philippines. It is now known as a marine sanctuary protected by government because of over 1,000 species, including endangered ones, found on the reef. These include manta rays, lionfish, tortoises, clownfish and sharks.

The opening of nominations for the New Seven Wonders of Nature was announced in Lisbon, Portugal in 2007.

As of March 19, Tubbattaha Reef has inched its way up to the 28th ranking, a position it held on February 14.

Bohol's Chocolate Hills is also fast catching up at 32nd, according to the New7Wonders website.

Bohol's Chocolate Hills is a unique geological formation composed of around 1,268 perfectly cone-shaped hills, all about the same size, spread over an area of more than 50 square kilometers. The hills are covered in green grass that turns brown during the dry season, thus earning them the name "Chocolate Hills."

As of March 19, three natural wonders in Vietnam occupy the top three spots: the Ha Long Bay, the Phong Nha-Ke Bang National Park, and Fansipan Mountain also in Vietnam.

Online voters can choose from 77 official nominees fro the New Seven Wonders of Nature after they register in the website. The live ranking is updated twice a day.

Voting will end on December 31, 2008, then a panel of experts will short-list 21 candidates from which voters worldwide will select the New 7 Wonders of Nature in 2009. The New Seven Wonders of Nature will be announced in 2010.

Quote from: B:) on March 19, 2008, 10:22:31 AM
interesting video sgt.joey, so who's that man? Is he the ambassador now?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: john zielinski dreamingronin@...
Date: Feb 12, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: Looking for Filipino/Bohol historians, scholars
To: contact@...


Sir or Madam:

I am currently working on a documentary and I need interviews with historians that are well versed in Philippine history and also Philippine/US relations. The synopsis of the documentary follows:


"At dawn, on December 16th, 1944, Lt. Charles "Chuck" Hartman ran out of fuel on a return from a bombing run in the Philippines. Chuck was able to control the crash into the ocean, hitting approximately 100 yards off the shore of the island of Bohol. Floating in his raft, the young pilot spotted several dark figures with machine guns gathering on the beach. His .45 in hand, Chuck planned to make a suicidal attempt to fight what he perceived to be Japanese soldiers. The figures then called out to him in English, revealing themselves as Filipino guerrillas.

Lt. Hartman would spend three weeks stranded on the island of Bohol, hidden in the town of Valencia. For a people that thought they had been forgotten by the Allies, this young man became a symbol of hope.

60 years later Lt. Chuck Hartman returns to the island and the people that protected him. We will follow Chuck as he rediscovers his past and we will also uncover the long, complex history between the USA and the Philippine people. In a different time and a different war Lt. Hartman finds himself once again becoming an unlikely ambassador."


A trailer of the film can be found at:

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=27162613

If you can help in any way it would be greatly appreciated. I can be contacted at 412-334-8868 (cell) or through email at dreamingronin@hotmail.com.

Thank you for your time,

John C. Zielinski

An Unlikely Ambassador - trailer
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Vote for Chocolate Hills
By Jerry Sisican
The Chocolate Hills is an unusual geological formation in Bohol, Philippines. It is composed of around 1268 perfectly cone-shaped hills, all about the same size, spread over an area of more than 50 sq km The hills are covered in green ...
Bohol On My Mind - http://boholonmymind.blogspot.com/

Quote from: eatdanao on March 17, 2008, 03:30:15 PM
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Bottom line is we badly need that airport in order for Bohol to Grow…..We just need to make sure that the growth in the tourism industry is done in a sustainable manner and the money earned in tourism will trickle down to the grass roots level…..

How can you make sure that the growth in the tourism industry is done in a sustainable manner and the money earned in tourism will trickle down to the grass roots level???

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The artist abroad
Barack or Hilary? The politics of color

By Luis H. Francia
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 08:55:00 03/11/2008

Another reason McCain will win in Nov, since, as implied in this link, Hilary supporters will vote for McCain if Obama wins the party nomination; besides the Republican, backed by multinational corporate funding, judicial challenge of as many non-white Democratic voters as reported by both the LA Times/Bloomberg and Mason/Dixon pollsters. These Republicans are the same folks who complain about judicial legislation, ignoring the anointment of the Bush regime by the US Supreme Court in 2000...joey

Quote from: grazie7y on March 08, 2008, 06:22:53 AM
Maybe more trees need to be planted in those areas. Thank you for this information, Sgt. Joey.

grazie...the loss of tropical rain forests is one of the biggest problems leading to climate change and species reduction. The difference in my perception of the tree cover in Ubujan from 1972 to 2005 was surprising to me. This may be an exaggeration but there is no more jungle. The density of coconut trees seemed much lower where copra and tuba use to reign.

The flooding that results from the loss of the tree root systems that use to bind the soil is just one problem resulting from the lower density of trees. Worse is the mudslides that result from that tree root anchor that kept the topsoil in place. That also results in a lower water table as the rain just rushes out to the rising sea. In Bohol, it will be the lack of potable water that will create a crises long before the lack of oil ever affects the entire population...joey

Flashfloods sweep Bohol barangays

by Rey Anthony Chiu

Tagbilaran City (7 March) -- LIKE A real lady, La Niña came accompanied by graceful showers to occasional surging downpour, but long and steady to gather enough water in upland catch basins, spill and cause flash floods in certain parts of Bohol, leaving in its wake yet undetermined damage to crops and property here.

In low-laying barangays of Pondol and Catagbacan Jandig in Loon, water from the mountains swelled the Pondol and Catagbacan creeks rendering some highway portions impassable to vehicular traffic for hours, Loon police reported.

Some 13 kilometers from the flooded roads in Loon, Calape councilor and civil defense deputized agent Engr. Lucio Carajay reported an overflowing of water on the banks of Liboron River on almost the same time between midnight of March 6 to early morning of March 6.

Moreover, low-laying areas in the next town Tubigon suffered similar fates, said Councilor Marlon Jamila, the towns civil defense agent.

He reported that flash floods were experienced in barangays Panaytayon, Pandan and Centro specifically in Sitio Ingod, due to the overflowing Bateria river.

Initial reports from Jamila said at least the flashfloods damaged some pumpboats and caused a fence to collapse in Tubigon.

Heavy and continuous rains also caused another flashflood in Bacani Clarin, specifically down the Bacani bridge, as reported by Clarin civil defense deputized coordinator Isidro Arcales.

No casualties however were reported in separate incidents.

Just as calls for weather updates swarmed the local Philippine Atmospheric and Geo-Physical Services Administration (PAG-ASA) weather station here, weather forecasters report no storms on the Philippine area of responsibility.

The rains, they said were caused by the cold front across Extreme Northern Luzon, while the wind convergence affected the Visayas and Mindanao regions.

The cold front, a complex weather system that brings the rains even in the beginning season of summer has actually heightened the effects of the onset of the La Niña phenomenon, said Engr. Emmanuel Oronan of the local weather station.

Bohol Civil Defense Coordinator Engr. Ver Neil Balaba and the Provincial Disaster Coordinator immediately went to inspect the areas affected while triggering municipal disaster teams to investigate and evaluate the damages.

As this developed, Balaba has urged communities settled along possible landslide and flash-flood prone areas to be vigilant and keep a watchful eye on the telltale signs of impending disasters, especially with the rains still expected until August. (PIA)

http://www.pia.gov.ph/default.asp?m=12&fi=p080307.htm&no=51

It's going to be watery summer

by Rey Anthony Chiu

Tagbilaran City (29 February) -- IT's going to be a watery summer it that would technically be a summer at all!

But if it's any consolation, there wont be storms, says Bohol chief meteorologist at the local weather station here.

Emmanuel Oronan, Philippine Atmospheric Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (Pagasa) says the weather aberration is due to the La Niña.

Guesting the Kapihan sa PIA Thursday, Oronan came up with the La Nina situationer and expounded on the climate changes including the La Nina as experienced by the world and as brought about by the phenomena of global warming.

The La Niña, which is a generally wet season caused by unusually lower and sometimes extensive cooling of the ocean-atmosphere as affected by different factors. This impacts in several areas across the globe, sometimes causing events that are generally associated with wetter conditions.

According to Oronan, as per latest La Nina advisory that his office received, the weather aberration intensity has gone from moderate to strong.

He said the La Niña forecast could extend the wet climate from March to May, the summer months. Moreover, the rains may be relentless from July to August, when the rains dwindle to its normal conditions.

If this forecast would be true to the dot, then there could be no more summers the By this, rains in May, the hottest part of the year may be expected, one that could probably impact again on the local farming practices.

And when the rainy days officially start in June, it would not be announcing itself as the rains have emphatically preceded its coming.

In fact, according to reports, the rains that came last month was above the normal 70 millimeters and in this month, Cebu weather monitors have recorded more than 100 millimeters of rainfall.

As this developed, weather forecasters here have been on the constant alert for rain induced landslides which may pose danger to lives and property.

Local disaster coordinating council here in tandem with the Office of the Civil Defense have strengthened their community based disaster alert system based on the newly crafted disaster maps.

At the forecast, the weather watchers would rather ask farmers to go shift for crops that could withstand the generally wet season through August.

Failure to do so may again prove disastrous to the local agricultural harvest and could impact not just on the farmer's projected income per planting season but on the local food production as well. (PIA)

(always the weather watcher! stay tuned for more climate change...joey)

This topic has come up on many national and international news broadcasts and media here in the US. It is said that the US Presidential 2008 election is talked about in many bars, cafes and coffee shops all over the world. It is said that Obama fascination is sweeping the world! Is this true in Bohol?...joey

Quote from: Macky Ferniz on January 31, 2008, 01:15:14 AM
Jun, I just found this today afternoon from my old archives. Just trying some experiment on Awit sa Bohol. I found these fonts in the Tabaco web site last 2005.

Lorenzo, the font was loaded in my office computer and tomorrow morning, I will send you on this same thread your name using these fonts. Actually it is very easy and rules are basic.

I believed literacy rate during pre-hispanic was 100% as they are able to write tatoos in thier bodies.

Macky...like to give the credit for this to my son Jon who found it and also has tattoos of his 1st 2 kids names on his arms in Bisaya Hervás - Baybayin Alibata. I spent 21 years in the military and never managed to get one. My kids, who managed to avoid the military, have tattoos all over their bods as well as piercings, including the boys. Brave New World with old world markings...joey

Just got a new email from 80-20 today with this interesting analysis from CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 (February 15, 2008) program on the Asian Am vote bloc. Shows how the elders among us are more resistant to change. On Facebook, Obama seems to be the favorite among the Fil Ams...joey

Quote from: Bohol Bol-anon on January 04, 2008, 08:21:55 AM
I will try to research, Joe.

thanx mike! I finally found his email address today on yahoo. He's up in Molde, Norway and I sent him an invite to join up here...joey

Google Blogs Alert for: Bohol

There's a Joke in Bohol

By frank cimatu(frank cimatu)

that natural family planning is the method used by priests who have children and modern contraceptives are the ones used by priests who have none.
pine for pine - http://unholyhours.blogspot.com/

This once a day Google Alert is brought to you by Google.

IE7 sucks and has tons of security holes! When Opera9 works, it's great, but it still hangs too much for me. FF2 is still my favorite browser tho it does still occasionally hangs, garbles the display or just won't work on IE exclusive sites like the MS Update site ...joey

Anyone here on this bbs a member of this org?

Quote from: Bohol Bol-anon on December 30, 2007, 12:27:06 AM
Do you wear a wristwatch, or do you tell time using your cellphone?

mike...My wristwatch has more info than my cellphone and I can see the numbers better on my watch in my old age!...joey

Quote from: grazie7y on February 09, 2008, 11:26:53 AM
I was caught by surprise of Romney's withdrawing from the race when he seemed to be do or die.  I think by now, Republican's already got their candidate while Democrats are still up for grabbing by either Hillary or Obama.

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OT:  Sgt. Joey, you mentioned that your father was from Taloto.  Do you happen to know Graping Tabaco? g

grazie...Edwards was do or die also and he surprised me when he dropped out. However I'm not surprised that Huckabee is still in tho he has almost no chance of winning. It's beginning to look like it will come down to a fight a the Dem Con on who will be the candidate unless Hillary does exceptionally well in the OH and TX primaries. If it comes to that, then Hillary will prevail since the Clintons have been know to be able to win at any and all costs. I doubt Obama would sell his soul like that and we may once again be sold down the river...joey

p.s...click here for the answer to your last part...jt

Quote from: grazie7y on February 09, 2008, 11:26:53 AM...
OT:  Sgt. Joey, you mentioned that your father was from Taloto.  Do you happen to know Graping Tabaco? g

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grazie...We are not as close to my dad's side of the family in Taloto as we are to my mom's side there in Ubujan. Just about all of my dad's land their in Taloto was stolen by his side of the family, not that I can blame them. Who is Graping Tabaco?...joey

Quote from: grazie7y on February 07, 2008, 03:04:20 PM
Sgt. Joey, yes, Obama's doing good during the Super Tuesday though delegate-wise, he still has some catching up to do.  He'll be okay.  McCain on the other hand is now comfortable with his lead over Romney and Huckabee!

grazie...with Romney out and little chance of Huckabee catching up, looks like McCain's got it wrapped up. While Latinos voted for Hillary 2 to 1, Asian Americans voted for Hillary 3 to 1. If we could break out Fil Ams from that last stat, it probably would be more like 4 to 1 on super duper Tues...joey

Quote from: grazie7y on February 02, 2008, 10:25:21 AM
Thanks for this, Sgt. Joey!  I will read this.

grazie...despite the stats, looks like our man Obama is holding his own after super duper Tuesday and may even surpass Hillary in the next few weeks primaries and caucuses until TX and OH come up in March, no thanx to Fil Ams who overwhelmingly voted for Hillary like the Hispanics we are...joey

I just watched a tv program tonight here on Long Island, NY on WLIW on Wed, Feb 06, 9:00pm, called Wild! episode # 305 Peculiar Primate: Tarsier, Description: Witness the world's oldest primate in their natural habitat and learn wh they may soon disappear. (Closed Captioning) (Stereo).

The main character was Carlito Pizarras, the caretaker at the Philippines Tarsier Foundation Inc sanctuary in Corilla, along with some primatologist from Manila named Irene Arboleda, who was there to do research on her Master's thesis. She was originally from somewhere on Mindanao and spoke Visayan.

Does anyone know if there is a website or email address for this org? The ones I found online do not work!

grazie...Here's an interesting link to Asian Americans Seek Campaign Visibility written by Susan Layug of Chicago Public Radio. For a Fil Am, she has an interesting POV. She must not be a Democratic Party stalwart...joey

Quote from: B:) on February 01, 2008, 06:48:37 AM
You mean to say it's from your roots? if it is, this will be my new discovery. Now that is somethin.

B:)...I don't know! Must be a side street in Tag since I really didn't know about it. Figured someone here might know who it's named after...joey

Quote from: Bohol Bol-anon on September 13, 2007, 07:20:13 AM
Are you a person who has a whole lot of acquaintances or just a few very close friends?

Lots of acquaintances but few close friends. Guys are like that. My current wife is my closest friend! Thanx to these social nets like classmates, myspace, friendster and especially facebook, I have regained contact with folks all the way back to elementary school, including the 1st real girlfriend I had back in JHS, after not seeing many of them for decades. A lot of my acquaintances now are virtual like yous guys here on TB, meaning I've never met them face-to-face...joey

Quote from: grazie7y on January 31, 2008, 07:31:47 AM
Sgt. Joey, my sister and her husband went home late last year and I was so amazed how things has changed in Manga wharf and how things remain unchanged in our neighborhood.  Our family's house is in the distance between the mercado and the wharf.

About Hillary and Barack, I don't think Hillary can get those FL delegates.  It should have been worked on before the FL primary.  There's still along way though.  Super Tuesday is I think the defining moments for all these candidates.  Barack Obama got the boost when he was endorsed by the Kennedy family.  Just a while ago, John Edward dropped her bid for the race and I am wondering if he is ever going to endorse any of the two Dem candidates, just like Rudy endorsed McCain.

grazie...I think Tony and I walked up that street to the market from the wharf! How long were they gone from the old country? The Ubujan homestead has change quite a bit for me from 72 to 05. No more nipa huts, out houses with coconut husks, running water, electricity, cell phones and towers being the tallest structure in the barrio, tv, cars, motorcycles, aircon, etc, etc etc.

Even if the FL delegates turn up at the dem con, how can they be refused? They were duly elected by the dems of FL! With Hilary backing them, they will almost be surly seated. I believe that the Clinton campaign comm is already working on a lawsuit.

If you look at the stats, Hillary will take most of the states. The best you can hope for is an even split. If Edwards doesn't endorse Obama, he ain't gonna make it. While I don't trust Hillary because of her connections to Wall and K Sts, I do agree with all of her platform issues. The only issue I disagree with Obama on is his stand on Iraq. We can't just pull out on a timetable...joey

Quote from: B:) on February 01, 2008, 06:36:32 AM
Scary! whoever these people that kill anytime anywhere in Bohol, they must be REAL big time that nobody can touch them. Which means they must be protected by a highest authority/Offcials.

B:)...Do you know who Tabaco Street is named after?...joey

Quote from: grazie7y on January 31, 2008, 03:19:05 AM
Sgt. Joey, my Mother's family is from Manga, the district next to Ubujan.

grazie...when I was back there in 2/05, my cousin's husband, Tony Botero, and i did a suroy-suroy from Talisay Beach to the Manga Wharf along that beach road. Wish I had brought my bike with me there. I don't remember that road running thru like that the last time I was there before that in 72.

I think Hillary will get those FL delegates reinstated for the Con. Not looking good for Obama ...joey

Quote from: grazie7y on January 30, 2008, 04:53:41 PM
Sgt. Joey, my father's family is from Taloto, Tagbilaran. 

grazie...is your mother's family from Ubujan like my mom's...joey

Quote from: Lorenzo on January 30, 2008, 01:54:46 PM
Hahaha, its brilliant and original, Mr. Tabaco.

Bran...maybe brilliant but not too original. The reason I took to that quote was that my father, who just recently passed away, still called Taloto, Tagbilaran, Bohol "home", even tho he's been here in metro NYC since 1946 and has lived in the same house he died in since 1953. So if he didn't add "to the Philippines" when he talked or asked about home, we assumed he was talking about his house in New Hyde Park, when half the time he was referring to Bohol.

Sadly with his death, the old house is being put up for sale, since we his children have our own homes now and can't afford to maintain it in the condition it's in. Unfortunately none of the 20 grandkids can afford it yet either. And what a terrible time it is having to sell in this recession housing market where we'll loose tens of thousands from it's previous value. So it's goodbye to the old childhood homestead for we his kids...joey

Quote from: grazie7y on January 30, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
Thank you, Sgt. Joey for your post.  I have to admit I didn't feel good reacting the way I did to Fortune's email.  You see, I kept on receiving that forwarded email and when I asked the senders if they actually checked snopes as they claimed they did, all I got is that, "Oh, I just forwarded that..."  How irresponsible to send email without understanding the contents especially when it comes to character assasination.

grazie...you're most welcome! More so than spam, another of my pet peeves are chain letters. Worse is when they're either urban legends or outright hoaxes like the one posted by our pious Christian with his poetic verse follow up.

Don't these people realize how stupid and ignorant they look when they blindly forward these lies? Besides chain letters are a violation of Netiquette which states:

Never send chain letters via electronic mail.  Chain letters are forbidden on the Internet. Your network privileges will be revoked.  Notify your local system administrator if your ever receive one.

Maybe Mike might pull the plug on him or at least give him a warning. In all the years since the 80s I've been a postmaster, listmaster and webmaster, I usually gave those violators a warning 1st before I pull the plug on them, meaning they could only read messages but not post them. I believe only Mike can do that here on this board.

Worse than the political ones are the ones religious in nature. I have received hardly any of them from Islamic fundamentalists. Most of the ones I get are from the Christian fundamentalists who feel in their zealous piety, it is their God given task to forward them on w/o bothering to check them out first. Talk about giving religion a bad name!

It has become so easy to check this stuff out thanx to Google and the other search engines. You no longer have to know the sites like snopes.com, urbanlegends.about.com, etc, to find out if the stuff you're forwarding is true or not. Besides, even if you know the sites, you still have to find the webpage it's on while the search engine results usually bring you directly to the webpage...joey

Quote from: Lorenzo on January 30, 2008, 12:16:55 PM
Mr. Tabaco, great post.

PS. I personally am disgusted by these filthy emails that do nothing but propagate wretched bipartisan attacks on candidates; I delete such emails.

PPS. I love your signature quote.

Warm Regards,
Bran Lorenzo

Bran...Thanx! Even tho i am an old fart, you can call me Joey if you'd like It's too bad we can't get Mike or who ever are the moderators in this thread to delete that post. Censoring bs is not a violation of anyones rights.

I actually stole that quote from a midwest Fil Am org's motto that said "The Philippines is Our Heritage - America is Our Home". Since it sounded cool to me, I adopted it for use here...joey

Quote from: fortune on January 29, 2008, 04:41:48 PM
It's sad to know that you thought highly of me before. And now you think differently of me. I just posted this forwarded email here in order to present another side of Obama. There's nothing I can do to convince you Obama fans not to vote for Obama. This email is presented to those voters who are still undecided. Because if you think about it, there's a tinge of truth in this forwarded email. I dont like Hillary either. Long ago I have already learned about the machinations to put Hillary in power. In fact, before the incident on Sept. 11, the network I have in financial circles know what was planned. It came to pass, and now here is another danger confronting America. So as a man who loves this country, I am doing what little I can. I think you Obama fans also know that Oprah Winfrey is campaigning hard for your hero. Poor Oprah is very much in love with Barack. Now, where is the morality in this when O just let Op do her thing with his wife looking on.

It's sad to know that you believe that bs and that you claimed to have checked it out in snoops.com and found it factual. I hate to burst your bubble, but here is the quote from snopes.com minus the bs you posted:

Who Is Barack Obama?


Claim:   Illinois senator Barack Obama is a "radical Muslim" who "will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance."

Status:   False.

Example:   [Collected via e-mail, January 2008]
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Variations:   One version of the e-mail in circulation claims "We were told this was checked out on 'snopes.com'. It is factual. Check for yourself." and includes a link to this web site. It's our guess that whoever included that bit was counting on folks to not check, as our article says the opposite: that the polemic is not factual but rather is false.

Origins:   Barack Obama, 45, served as an Illinois state senator for several years, and in 2004 he won a seat representing that state in the U.S. Senate. His keynote address before the Democratic National Convention in June 2004 brought him national prominence, and he is currently one of the leading contenders for the nomination to represent the Democratic Party in the 2008 presidential election.

Barack Obama has an unusual and interesting background, which the above-quoted piece draws on to paint him as a dangerous, camouflaged radical Muslim. Much of the information presented therein about his background is distorted and exaggerated, however, and no evidence supports a claim that Obama is currently, or ever has been, a Muslim (radical or otherwise).

Claim:   Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunh am, a white ATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.

Barack Hussein Obama (Senator Obama's father) was born on the shores of Lake Victoria in Alego, Kenya. He met and married an American woman, Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas, while they were both attending the University of Hawaii. Their son, also named Barack Hussein Obama was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Although the elder Obama was raised as a Muslim, no evidence supports the claim that he was ever a "radical Muslim," and Senator Obama's family histories note that his father was an atheist or agnostic (i.e., no longer a practicing Muslim) by the time he married the younger Obama's mother. Of his mother's religious views, Senator Obama wrote:
For my mother, organized religion too often dressed up closed-mindedness in the garb of piety, cruelty and oppression in the cloak of righteousness.

This isn't to say that she provided me with no religious instruction. In her mind, a working knowledge of the world's great religions was a necessary part of any well-rounded education. In our household the Bible, the Koran, and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology. On Easter or Christmas Day my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites. But I was made to understand that such religious samplings required no sustained commitment on my part. Religion was an expression of human culture, she would explain, not its wellspring, just one of the many ways â€" and not necessarily the best way â€" that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives.

In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well.

Claim:   When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia . Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic school.

Barack Obama's parents divorced when he was two years old, his father moving to Connecticut to continue his education before returning to Kenya. When the younger Obama was six years old, his mother married again, this time to Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian oil manager. Barack and his mother moved to Jakarta, Indonesia, where Obama spent 4-5 years attending both Muslim and Catholic schools before his mother sent him back to the United States to live with his maternal grandmother. The school Barack Obama attended in Indonesia was "Muslim" primarily in the sense that the preponderance of its student body was Muslim (because Indonesia is a predominantly Muslim country), but both the Muslim and Catholic schools he attended in Indonesia offered a few hours of religious instruction each week.

In his 2006 book, The Audacity of Hope, Obama elaborated on his early schooling, explaining that he attended both Catholic and Muslim schools in Indonesia â€" not out of any particular religious affiliation, but because his mother wanted him to obtain the best education possible under the circumstances:
During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was properly learning my multiplication tables.

Claim:   Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.

Barack Obama never stated that he "was once a Muslim" (radical or otherwise), so his "handlers" have nothing to "conceal." Obama communications director Robert Gibbs noted that "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim. As a six-year-old in Catholic school, he studied the catechism." Barack Obama has been associated with the United Church of Christ since the mid-1980s, describes himself as a Christian, and says that he is "rooted in the Christian tradition."

Claim:   Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

As noted above, Barack Obama's parents divorced when he was only two years old, and his father then moved thousands of miles away, from Hawaii to Connecticut, so he couldn't have received much of an "introduction to Islam" from his (biological) father:
My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was two years old.

At the time of his death, my father remained a myth to me, both more and less than a man. He had left Hawaii back in 1963, when I was only two years old, so that as a child I knew him only through the stories that my mother and grandparents told.
(Barack's only other childhood contact with his father occurred when he was eleven years old, and his father came to visit Hawaii for a month at Christmastime. The elder Obama died when Barack Jr. was twenty-one years old.)

Claim:   Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

The claim that Obama attended a radical Wahabbist school in Indonesia in the mid-1960s is exceedingly far-fetched, given that:
The large Indonesian community resident in Mecca was a medium through which knowledge about Wahhabism reached Indonesia, but the community itself appears to have remained virtually immune to Wahhabi influences. In reality there was little direct influence of Wahhabism on Indonesian reformist thought until the 1970s.
Insight magazine claimed in a January 2007 article that Barack Obama spent at least four years attending what is variously described as a "madrassa," a "radical Muslim religious school," or a "Muslim seminary" in Indonesia, but CNN has more recently reported that its own investigation found those claims to be false:
[R]eporting by CNN in Jakarta, Indonesia and Washington, D.C., shows the allegations that Obama attended a madrassa to be false. CNN dispatched Senior International Correspondent John Vause to Jakarta to investigate.

He visited the Basuki school, which Obama attended from 1969 to 1971.

"This is a public school. We don't focus on religion," Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, told Vause. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment."

Vause reported he saw boys and girls dressed in neat school uniforms playing outside the school, while teachers were dressed in Western-style clothes.

"I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta looking for what some are calling an Islamic madrassa ... like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Vause said on the 'Situation Room.' "I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan ... this school is nothing like that."

Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils. Insight reported that Obama's political opponents believed the school promoted Wahhabism, a fundamentalist form of Islam, "and are seeking to prove it."

"It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," Winadijanto said. "There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school."
The Associated Press reported similarly:
A spokesman for Indonesia's Ministry of Religious Affairs said claims that Obama studied at an Islamic school are groundless.

"SDN Menteng 1 is a public primary school that is open to people of all faiths," said the spokesman, Sutopo, who goes by only one name. "Moreover, he studied earlier at Fransiskus Assisi, which is clearly a Catholic school."

Obama later transferred to SDN Menteng 1 the elite, secular elementary school at the center of the controversy. The school is public but is very competitive and has exceptionally high standards. It is located in one of the most affluent parts of Jakarta and attracts mostly middle- to upper-class students, among them several of former dictator Suharto's grandchildren.

Indonesia is home to several of the most radical Islamic schools in Southeast Asia, some with alleged terrorist links. But Akmad Solichin [the vice principal at SDN Menteng 1], who proudly pointed to a photo of a young Barry Obama, as he was known, said his school is not one of them.
Moreover, a statement released by the Obama campaign affirmed that:
In the past week, many of you have read a now thoroughly-debunked story by Insight Magazine, owned by the Washington Times, which cites unnamed sources close to a political campaign that claim Senator Obama was enrolled for "at least four years" in an Indonesian "Madrassa". The article says the "sources" believe the Madrassa was "espousing Wahhabism," a form of radical Islam.

All of the claims about Senator Obama’s faith and education raised in the Insight Magazine story and repeated on Fox News are false. Senator Obama was raised in a secular household in Indonesia by his stepfather and mother. Obama’s stepfather worked for a U.S. oil company, and sent his stepson to two years of Catholic school, as well as two years of public school.

To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago. Furthermore, the Indonesian school Obama attended in Jakarta is a public school that is not and never has been a Madrassa.

Claim:   Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

As noted above, Barack Obama describes himself as "a Christian," says that he is "rooted in the Christian tradition," and his association with the United Church of Christ began over twenty years ago, long before he contemplated a political career. (Obama was first elected to the Illinois state senate in 1996, but he has been involved with the United Church of Christ since the mid-1980s.) The beginnings of Obama's relationship with the church were described in an April 2004 Chicago Sun-Times article:
Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ." As a sign of that relationship, he says, he walked down the aisle of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ in response to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's altar call one Sunday morning about 16 years ago.

The politician could have ended his spiritual tale right there, at the point some people might assume his life changed, when he got "saved," transformed, washed in the blood. But Obama wants to clarify what truly happened.

"It wasn't an epiphany," he says of that public profession of faith. "It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them ... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me."

These days, he says, he attends the 11 a.m. Sunday service at Trinity in the Brainerd neighborhood every week â€" or at least as many weeks as he is able. His pastor, Wright, has become a close confidant.

So how did he become a churchgoer?

It began in 1985, when he came to Chicago as a $13,000-a-year community organizer, working with a number of African-American churches in the Roseland, West Pullman and Altgeld Gardens neighborhoods that were trying to deal with the devastation caused by shuttered steel plants.

"I started working with both the ministers and the lay people in these churches on issues like creating job-training programs, or after-school programs for youth, or making sure that city services were fairly allocated to underserved communities," he says. "And it was in those places where I think what had been more of an intellectual view of religion deepened.

"I became much more familiar with the ongoing tradition of the historic black church and its importance in the community. And the power of that culture to give people strength in very difficult circumstances, and the power of that church to give people courage against great odds. And it moved me deeply."

Claim:   ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

This statement is completely false. It is a mistaken reference to a different politician, Minnesota congressman Keith Ellison, not Barack Obama.

Claim:   Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Senator Obama drew some criticism over a photograph that showed him standing without his hand over his heart during the playing of the U.S. national anthem, but the claim that he "will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance" is false.

During the Democratic candidates' debate on 15 January 2008, Senator Obama directly refuted the three primary rumors about him that are circulating via e-mail: that he is a Muslim, that he was sworn in to Congress on the Quran, and that he refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance:


Additional information:
   
  Debunked Insight Magazine and Fox News Smear Campaign
  (U.S. Senator Barack Obama)
Last updated:   15 January 2008

Quote from: fortune on January 29, 2008, 08:24:03 AM
...I checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual. Check for yourself....

Where exactly in snopes.com did you find this bs?

Quote from: grazie7y on January 27, 2008, 10:59:30 AM
Obama won a big lead against Clinton in the South Carolina Primary tonight! Go Obama!!!

grazie...Before we Obama fans get our hopes up too hi, you need to get real about what we are up against. See this link to see what my friend Loida Lewis is up to at http://tonyocruz.com/?p=666 to see what I mean. I would not be surprised if the PGMA regime is backing the Clinton candidacy.

We here in the US do not live in a democracy. We live in a republic where our electoral reps votes are what really count, altho after the Bush regime appointment in Y2K by the Supreme Court, makes even a republic questionable. Contrary to popular belief, Hillary did not win NH, where she only got 11 electorial delegates. Obama got 12, so he is the real winner there in NH.

But if you look at the total delegate count today, even if Obama and Edwards combined their delegate totals, they still could not beat Hillary. See http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D for the current exact numbers. The delegate count after super Tuesday will be more of an indicator to see if Obama really has a chance to become the Democratic nominee.

You must realize that Hillary is the party favorite with the money, machinery and corporate backing to make a go of it. Obama is just a party upstart with the charisma and grass roots support that can maybe make a difference in our govt and our standing in the rest of the world. But that might not be enough unless that grass roots actually gets out and votes in the primaries. It's tough enough to get the Fil Am community out for the general election. I fear that the Fil Am Democratic Party loyalists who vote in the primaries will mostly be voting for Hillary.

Since the assassination of RFK, I have become very cynical of politics. The reality seems to be that big business has bought govt and sold us down the river. But again after Obama's SC acceptance speech, like his one in IA, I got choked up and deja vu like I'm listening again to RFK, the last politician who moved and inspired me to have hope for our future as Americans...joey

The only viable reason for an airport in Panglao is as an alternate emergency landing field for Mactan. Other than the short term economic benefits for Bohol which will infuse millions, maybe billions, of pesos in the local economy, mainly to those who have positioned themselves to get a return on their investments or political influence, there are few other reasons, like safety and capacity

While Mactan itself may meet ICAO (RPVM) and IATA (CEB) regional standards, In order to meet full international standards, it needs to have a close by emergency alternate landing field capable of recovering any aircraft using it. The current Tagbilaran (ICAO - RPVT and IATA - TAG) airport does not meet the standards required to backup Mactan. The runway is too short and both the runway and flightline ramp does not have the weight capacity to handle aircraft larger than the 737 fully loaded or the A320/319 with weight restrictions.

The airport has no IFR capability needed for night time and bad weather landings and takeoffs and no way to add them. There are critical safety issues most especially for takeoffs using Runway 17 and landings using Runway 35 which could result in a major disaster for downtown Tagbilaran. Other than the passenger terminal limitations already mentioned, there is no FBO operations at the airport.

To answer other rhetorical and cynical questions, naming it Mactan II would cause major communications confusion for ATC and pilots . Just like the Cebu airport is referred to as Mactan not to confuse it with the former Lahug, Panglao would probably referred to as "Panglao" not to confuse it with the current Tagbilaran airport.

There would be no or very little local costs for the airport operations and maintenance itself, mainly funded by Natl Govt and airlines/users, but there would be huge and increasing costs to build and maintain the support infrastructure for the airport including roads, bridges, power, communications, water, sewage, housing, etc and the personnel qualified to do the job along with the continuing training needed to maintain currency and technology qualifications.

The municipal and provincial govts will have to come up with the funds to hire and buy and maintain equipment or contract out the support infrastructure work. Some of the initial costs may be offset by funds from the Natl Govt, but will that funding continue? There should be some economic benefits from the increase of taxable tourist revenue gained but its is questionable if it will offset the increased support infrastructure costs for the airport.

Airline travel has become IMHO a wretched affair. Many airlines, especially US domestic carriers treat you like they're doing you a favor and manage you like cattle when you fly in the economy classes. Since 9/11/01, the security restrictions have made commercial flying almost intolerable. the best way to limit your misery is to fly with as few stops to your destination. I did this in 2005, bypassing Manila by flying directly to Cebu where the hassle was much less than going thru Manila, then taking the hydrofoil to Tagbilaran.

The worse effects of the airport will be the ecological and environmental impact on Panglao, which may even effect tourism there. Unless this is very well managed and maintained, this can be a costly effect, difficult to reverse. If left to the vigilance of the local tree huggers, commercial and political entities will rule the day. Even here in the US where there are strong environmental regulations, they have been bypassed by political intrigues and commercial manipulations.

The Panglao airport looks like a done deal. The best we can hope for is that the construction and maintenance as well as the supporting infrastructure will be well managed and maintained uncorrupted by the political and commercial greed. That is a tall order here in the US let alone in the Philippines. Let's also hope that the local social culture will not be impacted with the adverse opportunities that projects like these usually attract...joey

Quote from: -&lt;GEC348&gt;- on January 18, 2008, 05:21:37 PM
But she has to pass away first, right joey? 

-<GEC348>-...wrong! Since Mike has ruled that we not venture into that realm of discussion on pain of excommunication from this board, I will not go there! As a journalist, Mike would like to be able to return back home someday. Let's honor his wishes. I have enough problems with the regime in power here in the US than to delve into what to me are foreign problems.

My reply to Glen with the example in the last paragraph should suffice. I am more curious as to how they expect to build that proposed bridge between Mactan and Jetafe than what happened to all those journalists who have passed under her watch. Besides, most of my relatives still live in Bohol and I can't bring any shame and scandal to the family anymore than I've brought already ...joey

Quote from: Scott on January 18, 2008, 12:04:16 PM
Oh, I see Sir. It must be in the Ideal Cinema hehehe

Scott...having more senior moments these days, I'll take your word it was the Ideal tho I do't remember it. The names of the Melrose and Royal sound vaguely familiar. All I remember about the Maharlika was that it use to be the name of the restaurant on the 1st floor the the RP Consulate here in NYC. Watching movies in an aircon building was one of the few ways for a family of 10 brown haole kids to enjoy themselves in Tagbilaran back then in 66-67 and manage to stay out of trouble...joey

Quote from: B:) on January 17, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
sgt.joy, thank you for the clarifications, it will surely makes sense! Hence, you lose some, you gain some, right. I would say I will agree to name it after Pres. Garcia since he was a Boholano President.

B:)...Let's hope we gain more than we loose, or at least break even. Considering it is being built by the Natl Govt, it may be named the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo International Airport. How would you like them apples? ...joey

Quote from: Glen on January 17, 2008, 12:52:41 PM
Thank you Mr.Tabaco. Now I understand why the airport is in Panglao. My husband agrees with you as well since he has been an airport manager himself. He well understands the safety issues regarding the Tagbilaran airport and the lack of area to expand.

Glen...you're most welcome! I'm glad my explanation helps clear up the reasons the RP Govt needs to have the airport in Panglao despite the ecological and environmental degradation it will bring and the dubious economic advantage it purports to give to the province. The costs that will have to be borne by the local govts to build and maintain the infrastructure may be more of a curse than blessing in the long run.

W/o help from the Natl Govt and investors none of this will come to fruition. Let's hope that the help continues for more than the airfield itself, and that the local govts carefully manage the zoning and infrastructure to benefit more than the trapos' own pockets.

A good example of that at an airport itself is at where I work where the former Republican Town Supervisor allowed a major terminal expansion to be completed w/o meeting the local fire codes and the flightline ramp built below FAA specification, and then has the gall to name the concourse after himself, still alive in office. Needless to say that luckily he was caught by the adept County DA, sent to prison for a token term and the concourse renamed to something more appropriate...joey

Quote from: Scott on January 18, 2008, 10:45:48 AM
ALFIE (2004)

Scott...I believe I saw the original Alfie (1966) also there in Tagbilaran in what was the only aircon theater there at the time during my longest stay there for 10 months. The aftertaste for me is the title song sung by Dionne Warwick and is considered a signature song for her. I was produced by Burt Bacharach and won a Grammy for him in 1967....joey

Quote from: Lorenzo on January 17, 2008, 02:23:10 AM
Thank you for the well defined explanation, Mr. Tabaco.

Lorenzo...You're most welcome! So what's your take on what I presume will be called the Carlos P. Garcia International Airport in Panglao, since it has a lot better chance of coming off than the bridge between Mactan and Jetafe...joey

Quote from: preciousNpolite on January 16, 2008, 06:35:02 PM
I say just expand and update the terminal in Tagbilaran. There is no need to disturb the environment in Panglao.

Having been involved in aviation professionally since I was 18 and still working in an airport part time, even tho I'm supposed to be retired, living close by under the flight path of one of its runways understanding the community and safety ramifications, and having been to and around TAG or RPVT last in 2005, there is no practical way to expand it at all, or update it w/o completely shutting down current operations for an extended period of time for months, if not years.

The reason the RP Govt wants to build an airport in Panglao to ICAO standards, despite the adverse ecological and environmental effects, is that it needs a close by alternate emergency landing field for Mactan Intl that can handle any aircraft that uses Mactan whether or not it is economically viable. The other closeby airport at Ormoc does not have as good meteorological statistics as Tagbilaran, more affected by typhoons than Mactan itself.

The next closest airport at Bacolod is too problematic aviation wise to consider it a viable alternate for emergency landings. Because of similar community and safety conditions at Lahug Airport in Cebu, the current Tagbilaran airport will suffer the same fate as Lahug, a better airport in its time than Tagbilaran ever was, having also been there myself.

So these are the aviation considerations, irregardless of the adverse impact on the environment and ecology of Panglao. Besides Bohol economic interests will not loose such an opportunity to Letye or Negros no matter what...joey

Marseille...My condolences to you and your family! Tho I recently lost my father, it was the sudden loss of my mom back in 02 that reminded me of your pain. Tho she did not suffer long, having gone in the hospital for an almost routine bypass heart operation, survived and look like she was getting better for a few days and then having a massive heart attack. Needless to say the family was devastated.

We suffered with her the loss of my nanay and tatay who we only saw once every 2 years before they died. She did not know that they died until days after they were buried there in Ubujan, not having any internet like now or even phones back then in the barrios, let alone electricity or running water.

When our father died and we buried him next to my mom, I was more distraught over seeing her grave again than laying him to rest next to her. She was the person who held the few of us here in America together. Tho she had 10 kids, 20 grandkids and 2 great grandkids at the time she died, the rest of her family was back there in Bohol. Thanx to the internet and phones, they knew about it right away.

But like the birth of my 3rd grandchild shortly after she died, my 4th grandchild was born 10 days after my father died, so for me it was an even emotional trade. Christ said to let the dead take care of the dead. I'm too busy taking care of the living now to morn except when reminded in a rare moment when there's nothing to do. Keep busy...joey

Quote from: jtabaco on January 09, 2008, 03:42:25 PM
B:)...
Obama's lack of commitment to Asian Ams may not affect him that much, but his lack of concrete plans will. Hope will not change anything w/o plans like Hilary has. I just am suspicious of how indebted Hillary is to the Wall St Corps!
...joey

And speaking of those Wall St Corp types from a thread that B:) and I were having, here's something I just got 3 copies of in my emailbox:

WHY HILLARY SHOULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

I am a dual citizen of the United States and the Philippines and I am equally involved and concerned with the future of these 2 countries that I love.

As an American citizen, I earnestly urge all of you, not only to vote for but also to campaign for Sen. Hillary Clinton to be the next President of the United States.

AND WHY DO I ASK THIS FROM YOU??

1. She has been right beside President Bill Clinton in the White House during the 8 consecutive years of phenomenal economic prosperity and technological growth of the United States. Having been an eyewitness and adviser to her husband during his Presidency, Hillary is well verse in the management and very complex decision making involved in being President.

She will hit the ground running on day one of her presidency and will have very short learning curve.

2. She has been always a Friend to the Filipino American community. In 1999, she was the first and so far the only Occupant of the White House (as First Lady) who attended and spoke at a Filipino American convention (the National Federation of Filipino American Associations-NAFFAA).

She and President Bill Clinton supported the passage into law, which allows Filipino Veterans of  World War II to return to the Philippines and live there and still receive the Social Security Supplemental Income. President Bill Clinton in fact signed the law in 2000 with a dozen Fil Am Vets of World War II in attendance.

3. She favors the legalization of the 23 million TNT's (you know, Tago nang Tago) and yet at the same time, she supports the aggressive application of immigration laws so that those immigrants who do not respect our laws, rules and regulations, are deported.

4. She has always been an advocate for children, since she was 14 years old, starting with her Methodist Church child care service up to her years as NEW YORK Senator. She worked  for the passage that foster children should remain in the foster home up to the age of 21 and not 18, which means that they leave only when they reach the age of maturity.

5. As the first woman President of the United States, we are sending a very strong signal to our daughters and granddaughters that gender is not a barrier to their highest aspirations, whether it is to become U.S. President, CEO of a Fortune 500 company, the next Einstein or Bill Gates of the 21st century.

6. But the most important reason that I could give to you as members of the Filipino-American community is that: because Senator Hillary Clinton is a personal friend, I am better able to approach her when she is President to support important legislations and executive measures that would be for the benefit of Filipino Americans (just to cite a few examples: the Fil Am Vets Equity Bill, extension of Medicaid coverage in the  Philippines, the passage of the Amnesty Law for illegal aliens).

LOIDA NICOLAS LEWIS
CHAIR, FILIPINO AMERICANS FOR HILLARY

Thought yous might be interested in this in this thread...joey

Quote from: Lorenzo on January 11, 2008, 11:53:06 PM
That will be a great movie! I was a big fan of the Witch, Lion and the Wardrobe cartoon movie back in the 80s/early 90s. When Narnia came out couple of years ago, it was as if my childhood memories came back again. I loved the book, the movie, for the most part, stayed in line with the theme of the book.

Did you watch Bridge to Terabithia? Its another great book. The life morals in these movies are great, bar none.

Lorenzo...I wud hope that the whole series by CS Lewis will be as great like Harry Potter was. The Dawn Trader and Silver Chair are already in preproduction by Disney. I have read the Chronicles of Narnia several times since I was a little kid. I liked Lewis's Space Trilogy, often referred to as the Perelandra series, even better.

However may favorite book series was Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series which have threatened several times to become movies but never have. Since her death in 99, several sci fi/fantasy authors have continued to write about Darkover.

I've not seen the current Bridge to Terabithia, the previous PBS production or read the book by Katherine Paterson yet. Surprised you like this as the religious censors are trying to have this book banned from the libraries if not burned. Guess the current movie is not as death themed oriented...joey

Quote from: B:) on January 11, 2008, 08:40:45 AM
As for me, I have plenty of favorites. But one thing that I will never forget was TITANIC, why because I watched it 3 times on theater.

B:)...Prior to the days of VCRs and DVDs, when it took years before they came on TV, and when they were just about the only cheap form of entertainment for teens, there were at least 4 memorable movies I saw at least 3 or more times in the theaters: West Side Story(61), The Sound of Music(65), Franco Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliette(68) and 2001 Space Odyssey(68). Notable for me with The Sound of Music was that the 1st time I saw it was in a theater in Tagbilaran in 66 during my 10 month stay there...joey

Hi folks...Mackey asked me to put this here so since Lorenzo mentioned it in this topic according to the search engine, here is a link to the trailer to "Prince Caspian", the next movie in the Narnia series due out on May 16th.

The girl playing Lucy, Georgie Henley, also plays the young Jane Eyre in the latest BBC production, where I must admit to being infatuated with Ruth Wilson. This is a great show which should not be missed playing on you local BBC or PBS channel. The DVD will be released here in the US on Jan 18th if you miss it or one of the episodes on TV...joey

Quote from: B:) on January 10, 2008, 09:24:00 AM
It's a little late but better than never. My Condolences to your father sgt.joey. I salute WWII veterans like my grandfathers as well, although my grandfather in my mother side passed away last Dec.of 2005 and the other one is still alive, he must probably be in his 80's now, not sure. He was one of those lucky ones who escaped the Bataan Death March.

B:)...thanx! It's never too late for this. Please sign the guest book at the death notice link so the rest of the family not here on TB can share your condolances.

Like I told Lorenzo, "unlike my dad, most of the WWII Filipino vets have gone uncompensated by the US Govt for their service with the death of the Filipino Veterans Equity Act (S. 1315 and HR 760) in this year's Congress again. If you are a US citizen, please consider contacting your Congresspersons during this year's Congress to petition them for support once the new bills are submitted again and support the Fil Vets org of your choice pushing for this resolution"...joey

B:)...I actually went out for my 1/2 hr bike ride constitutional myself both days at a somewhat leisurly pace not having riden for some time now due to the adverse weather. Got called in tonite for for the mid shift, midnite to 8am, for a sick collegue. I would probably go into withdrawal if i did not get on a computer at least once a day.

It doesn't matter what your husband is, or even if he is democrat, republican or independent. As long as he is involved, IMHO he is fulfilling his civic duty and responsibility, which at the min is to vote. Like Obama winning in IL as the favorite son, Hilary will win in NY being the favorite daughter in her case. With her stunning NH win, she has proved she is still the party favorite.

Obama's lack of commitment to Asian Ams may not affect him that much, but his lack of concrete plans will. Hope will not change anything w/o plans like Hilary has. I just am suspicious of how indebted Hillary is to the Wall St Corps!

Yes flip food is not the only bad stuff for us, but that's what I mainly ate despite being so Borged by American culture being born and raised here. I already had long ago cut out McDonalds type fast foods and have even began to like the fishbait shashimi that my wife loves. My father would turn over in his recent grave if he knew I liked Jap food. I was saddened to see the golden arches all over Tagbilaran when i visited there in Feb of 05.

I too now have Optimum Triple Play but I'm pissed off at cablevision for cutting back on the bandwidth I had before since i did not include their Online Boost pkg with my Triple play upgrade. I had cablevision since i moved into my house in 89 and was the 1st one on the block to upgrade to digital tv and internet access when it became available. I then added their phone service and HDTV and they cut my bandwidth because it's not part of their basic Triple Play pkg? I will switch my phone and internet to Verizon once they get tv in my hood!

I use to have Verizon non-digital phone service before we added Optimum Voice. My phone was the only one working during the last metro NYC blackout and neighbors flocked over to use it. My WLAN EVDO Rev A service for my laptop is from Verizon since my son got it for me since he works for NJ Verizon. My cell phones are a family plan from T Mobile since that was the cheapest my wife could find.

They are different companies under the same corporation. So my son still gets an employee discount. He has comcast for his internet and tv since Verizon does not have tv rights there yet in southern NJ and uses Vonage for his home voice phone. But his cells are Verizon. I just don't like Verizon's shenanigans trying to control internet bandwidth access...joey

From: TabacoFamily On Behalf Of Joey Tabaco
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:23 AM
To: Narding Magaso
Cc: TabacoFamily
Subject: [tabacofamily]

Narding…Sorry I did not get your org name quite right as The Tagbilaranons of Eastern USA. I believe your website is tied to the now defunct bohol.net after the tragic demise of the Liems. I was wondering if you have a mailing list like the one cc:’d to the TabacoFamily, rather than sending out an email with everyone’s email address addressed To, Cc or Bcc to the message. If so, please add me to your regular mailing list. If not, I could make one up for you if you would like, similar to the one I use for the Metro NY Chapter of FANHS. Please let me know…joey

Cc: http://tubagbohol.mikeligalig.com/index.php?topic=8094.14
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From: Narding Magaso
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:48 PM
To: Joey Tabaco
Subject: Re: Thank you Re: Dad

Joey you are very welcome. I just learned that Carlos and Fr. Fernando Po, the present president of the Tagbilaranons, were classmates in high school in Tagbilaran. Well, I will keep you posted on the activities of the Boholanos. Best regards & God Bless.

Narding

Lorenzo...The South Jersey flips actually have a Center, their own bldg there in Berlin from what I was told. Glad to see they are doing more than just ballroom dancing there giving scholarships to youth like you. However, there are so many Bisayans there in North Jersey that they not only have orgs for each province but even each city.

Not only are there 2 major Bohol orgs, chapters of the Bohol Asso and Bohol Circle up there, there is also an org just for Tagbilaranons, that had a Chritmas Party that my wife and many of my bros and sis's went to last month. I couldn't go since i had to work. My wife's family is from Lubang, Occ Mindoro and they have their own org just for the folks from Lubang.

The problem that i and my siblings and our children have with those orgs is that they tend to talk and conduct business in bisaya which leaves me, a tatay, talking to their kids who also don't speak bisaya anymore. Same with my wife's family and orgs, who do it in Tagalog. When their kids were smaller I stopped going to her family get togethers until they made the effort to talk in English, which they were also very fluent in, so I would not feel left out, despite my failed attempts to learn Tagalog.

The Philippine American Center in Jamaica, NYC use to be just the Illocano Center. It now houses FAHSI, the social service org for all Filipinos in greater NYC of which I am a member. Tho they asked me to be a board member, i declined since i am not good in soliciting for funds, the main duty of a board member. I helped set up their computer lab.

There is a saying that anywhere there are 2 flips, they will form an org; if there a 3 flips there will be 2 orgs, the 3rd person being a member of both orgs. Here in the Ronkonkoma area, there are 2 major Fil Am orgs, FAMILLI and Tanglaw both hq'd in the next town over, Holbrook, for all of Suffolk County. I am a member of FAMILII. What this does for Fil Ams is divide and conquer, which does not promote unity for the Fil Am community nationwide.

That's why i joined NaFFAA which is the Natl Federations of Fil Am Assos, but it tended to alienate us multi-gen flips. So i switched to FANHS which is more multi-gen American oriented. But their are also divisions among the age groups which further aggravates disunity in the Fil Am community, so it's hard to get us all together.

Thanx for the regards to Conner, a quarterbred Boholano Fil Am, part of the 4th gen of Tabacos here in the US for over 60 years of the centenial of Fil Ams here in America...joey

Macky...you're welcome for the friendster add. I started out social networking on myspace since that's what the family kids were on here. Then I hopped on friendster since that's where the extended family kids were on there in the RP. These sites were a bit too adolescent for me until us older folks found facebook which originally was only for college students and faculty then spread as the students graduated from college.

You can even proudly proclaim you are Boholano there on your profile with the My Heritage web app. You older folks and seniors should jump onboard there even tho the kids are switching from myspace and friendster to facebook since it is so much better and cleaner!

I didn't see your photos since it's still a little tuff to navigate here not knowing what all the bisaya words mean. Fighter jocks (jet pilots) are a rare breed where the best braggers are sometimes the best pilots since they essentially fly alone, unlike bomber, transport and us recon crews that fly as a team. F-15s are 'Eagles' but have recently been grounded since they are so old.

There is a big misconception here about Filipina wives since they usually start off more submissive than American women. But, especially once you bring them back here to the US, they quickly become like the American wives next door and take over especially once you have kids. They have to in order to survive here. Otherwise their husbands will become like many of the Filipino husbands who have mistresses and girlfriends, and stop coming home regularly.

My cable fiber connection is 100Mbps which i WIFI to my laptop at speeds of 108Mbps. Ethernet is 1Gbps. Theoretically, my Verizon WLAN with should be T1 at 1.5Mbps but i avg about 115Kbps even with the lastest EVDO Rev A Expresscard I got from santa this year. I had to buy a PCMCIA card adapter for the Expresscard to fit my older laptop.

All this is highly dependent on distance to the cell tower (number of bars) or WIFI router (signal strength %), the traffic at the cell tower server as well as transmission mode like EVDO which manages the radio frequency spectrum. This is all shared bandwidth; the more the number of devices using the connection, the less bandwidth share available.

If you know what you are doing config'ing the OS and can afford or have the proper adapter cards or USB interfaces, routers, switches or modems, you can network any pc thru any connection. I remember in the begining of WIFI where i would steal bandwidth from any unsecured wireless router anywhere i went where one was in range. You can now even get WIFI routers that accept WLAN (cell phone) cards, as well as multiple connections to cable (tv), dsl (landline phone) and/or satellite (tv and pc capable).

I use my WLAN in the car if I not driving otherwise my wife in online as the passenger. Some cars have it built in and bluetooth it to other devices like ipods or xboxes. Since i have bluetooth in my laptop, i cud do that too. WIFI in the house is now used for heating/cooling and alarm/security systems. I also have wanted a weather sensor platform that is WIFI and solar powered in my backyard but can't afford a decent one. The cheaper ones are just toys not gud enuf for a pro weatherman.

My father was supposedly close friends with Alex Sarmiento. Eddie probably dropped this genealogy project due to the lack of cooperation from them not wanting their dirty laundry aired out in public.

Since I am more from the Bob Hope gen than Frasier or Jerry Seinfield, that may be why i sound more like him. My favorite current comedians are Bill Maher and George Carlin. They are honest, straightforward as well as funny to me...joey

Quote from: Lorenzo on January 08, 2008, 12:13:37 AM
Mr Tabaco, I realize that you live quite close to me. If you're around the Willingboro area, then you might know where Williamstown is. That is where I am from. Congratulations on becoming a Lolo!!

Lorenzo...I live in Ronkonkoma, NY, half way out to Montauk Point from NYC on Long Island. My son Jon lives in Moorestown just off NJ73. My newest gkid Connor was born in the hospital up in Willingboro. That's where the profile pic was taken. Jon works for NJ Verizon and is one of the folks stringing fiber thru your hood. He was trying to buy a house nearer to you off the White Horse Pike US30 before the mortgage meltdown.

When I attended a FAHNS event at the Cebu Restaurant in Philly, I was told there is a Filipino Center for southern NJ in your hood somewhere. I think they said it was in Berlin. Your on the south side of the ACY Xway...joey

B:)...I believe your husband was one of the volunteers when Hiliary ran for Sen.the first time in NYC. With the likes of Loida Nicolas Lewis backing her, many Fil Ams flocked to her support. Loida for those who don't know who she is, is one of the richest Fil Ams in the US. Tho we are well acquainted and know and like each other, she is way out of my social class.

Loida hired me as a volunteer to be her webmaster in NaFFAA Eastern Region where she was the Regional Chair in 1999. She later appointed me as the volunteer Deputy Director for Information Management for NaFFAA National when she became National Chair in 2004. That's how I ended up as a NaFFAA delegate as a NaFFAA National officer to the 3rd Global Filipino Networking Conference held in Cebu in Jan 2005 which gave me the opportunity to visit Bohol again since 1972.

To say Hilary has foreign policy experience is like saying Barack only has 2 years in politics. Obama had been involved in local Chicago politics since 1985 after he graduated from Columbia University, and in IL state politics after he went on to earn his law degree from Harvard in 1991, where he became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, then ran for the Illinois State Senate and served for eight years.

With Barach as one of the IL Senators to the US Senate since 2004, I don't know where you got that info that he's got a pretty low support there, especially in Chicago. He never would have been elected US Senator from IL if he did not have the majority support particularly in Chicago. That's another state Hillary WILL loose to Barack!

Exercise is only half the battle. You have to watch what you eat. Many of our Filipino foods are some of the worst things for a healthy diet. There's way too much starch, fat, salt and sugar especially in fried foods, like fried banana which i love to eat. Tho Yogi may not have coined this, it sounds like he did: You are what you eat! (The nutritionist Victor Lindlahr coined the phrase in English in 1942.)

These days, any airport is for the rich, especially with the cost of avgas and maintenance. I had dreams of flying as a little kid riding back and forth in aircraft from NYC to Bohol every 2 years from the time i was born til i turned 18, courtesy of the UN. That dream to fly sort of came true in the back of the WC-130 as an aerial weather observer or meteorological technician courtesy of the USAF. I am now the Membership Chair of the AWRA veterans org.

I have paid with my obsession with computers since I was in a HS computer course in 1967 with a condition called trigger finger. Half of my fingers have needed minor ambulatory operations to fix this condition, which really started when my dad forced me to learn to type on a manual typewriter when i was in 1st grade. That skill helped him get his job in the UN.

I got my own personal laptop as a retirement present in 2004. In 2006, my son, who works for NJ Verizon got me a WLAN card for free. It basically gives me broadband access anywhere i go with my laptop thru the cell phone towers. The more signal bars, the faster the connection. This past holidays, my present was a newer free EVDO Rev A card that is even faster yet less drain on the batteries/power source.

Since our P3 desktop is more older and slower than my now aging P4 Centrino laptop, my wife will think nothing of throwing me off my laptop to do her email. Tho she is the family CFO, i am the clerk who does most of the electronic bill paying at her direction. We hardly ever write checks anymore.  When i begged for a new duel-core pentium laptop from santa, she asked whats wrong with the one you got? I told her it was old and slow. She said so are you; a perfect match ...joey

Quote from: EL MUNDO on January 07, 2008, 04:20:33 PM
unsay nahitabo sa inyong property sa moon? you know i wrote a story about your papa, the first Filipino hired by the United nations...and an awardee by the UN.... and the 1st Filpino to own a property in the moon.

el mundo...or is it leo? I gather that you are asking about my dad's claim to owning property on the moon from the bisaya words i cud figure out? I'd have to ask my sis-in-law what exactly are you saying since she is the only person left in the entire Tabaco Family here who is literate in Visayan. My wife is literate in Tagalog if it's not too deep as she puts it. Her family still speaks Taglish which only my sis-in-law again can understand.

Like most American families here, the likes of the Republic of Bohol has become the 'old country' for us. My father was the last person in the family who still considered Bohol 'home' even tho he has lived and died in the same house in New Hyde Park he bought back in 1953. He wanted to be buried there in Bohol, but we have decided not to honor that dying wish.

Altho he was serious about that claim and has an officious looking piece of paper to back it up, it has always been an embarrassment to the rest of the family. Back in the 50s, he sent some money, maybe a buck or few, to some place that advertised getting a deed to a parcel of land on the moon.

That went along with a reservation he has from Pan Am for the 1st flight to the moon ala 2001 Space Odyssey. That so called deed has about as much validity as his now defunct Pan Am reservation. A sad joke since he took it so seriously. I hope that this statement puts to rest any truth left to such a ridiculous claim...joey

From: Joey Tabaco
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:02 AM
To: Narding Magaso
Cc: bohol-forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: Thank you Re: Dad

Narding…A very big salamat from the entire Tabaco Family to the Tagbilaranos of metro NYC/NJ for the memorial mass for our father, Natalio Dahab Tabaco.

Jackie Bleza Tabaco, Alex Catay Tabaco, Carlos Catay Tabaco, Angie Tabaco-Moore, Fran Tabaco Molina and Esther Tabaco Costanzo would also like to thank you for the Tabilaranos Christmas Party they attend there in NJ. They had a great time from what I heard. Unfortunately I had to work and it is tough to switch days around the holidays especially on a weekend. But thanx for the invite anyway…joey

Joseph Tabaco
http://tabacofamily.com

Cc: http://tubagbohol.mikeligalig.com/index.php?topic=8094.14

Macky...like i said, 'i work for a living!' Energetic yes. Younger, I doubt it. If the wife has her way, i'll die at my part time job with my boots on. She's seen too many really retire and in less than a year were dead. Salespersons, as well as politicians, will say anything to get you to by something, whether or not you need it.

I doubted you were an English knight so Knights of Rizal was a better pun guess, no offense to your many friends who are. I once was in a play at NYU when i was still in HS where i played a boy who visits Rizal in prison the night before he was executed. I realize that acting was not my forte.

Actually Wake Is role as a scheduled stopover ended with the 707 long before the 747 came out. While maintained by Pan Am as an alternate and emergency landing field, that died with the death of Pan Am. The USAF has since maintained it for the same purpose. However, most of the jobs left there are contracted out to civilian entities, including that of the weather. Many of those contract workers are still Filipino.

That article in the TANOCAL silver album is posted on our family website with Rene's permission. But I would have utang na loob to you and Paul for any other info you may be able to scan and send to me about my family there in Bohol.

I am glad that someone holds Eddie in such esteem so I will no say anything else. Eddie is married to my cousin Ruby nee Pelias. I know that the Sarmientos are one of those elite families there in Bohol. I wonder if they would have given my father the time of day had he not been able to be one of the early Boholanos to get to America in a respectable job.

With such historic material, if it is not in your interest, it should be made available to those reputable historians who would pursue it's publication with the good as well as the bad included provided it can be verified. There is way too much garbage and disinformation on the internet today.

Only 4 wives? I knew a man who was reputed to not only have wives, but children too, in almost every major town in Bohol. How much of that was macho bragging is hard to tell since he himself never admitted to that me. I just heard it from others, some who did not like him tho I did and still admire him.

I was amused by what I saw there in Bohol where Catholic priests had wives and children. Better than the child molesters here in the US who should have been shot on sight or burned at the stake and not hidden away by their bishops...joey

Does anyone here know who Enrico Saragosa (dancingearth) is and why he is linking my msgs here on digg.com...joey

Angie...what's inun-unan nga tulingan in english?...joey

Grace...i had to work tonite and with the rain, i did not have much time to watch anything other than the Weather Channel. Glad to hear that Obama was sharp since he has not been know to do to well at these debates...joey

B:)...call me what you like. Like I use to tell the press when they call the NYC Forecast Office, the reason it's cold out is because it's winter. And we've several more months to go before it's over. West Milford was at the nw'ern edge of our forecast area. Last time I was up there was at the Connie at Greenwood Lake Arpt to give a pilot weather brief for summertime thunderstorms back in the early 90s.

That ride is the beginning of every June to Shelter Island. If I don't exercise, it definitely will be heart attack city for me. I got my bike as a retirement present back in 04 and have been putting it to good use since I hate gyms and really can't afford them anyway. I also hate to walk or run but i love to ride.

It looks like you type a lot too. Guess your husband is a computer widower. My wife falls asleep in bed reading while I'm typing on my laptop. Books are not as obnoxious as computers...joey

Quote from: Spiderman on January 06, 2008, 04:37:13 AM
I agree with B:-) on this issue.

It would be great to see Hilary Clinton as the next President of the U S A.

Spiderman...Like I previously said, you and most other Asian Ams would love to see that since Barak has not addressed any Asian Ams issues. Or are there other reasons for your wishes?...joey

Mrs B:)...the next time Mrs Loida Nicolas Lewis sends me an invite to one of her hundreds of dollars a plate dinners for Mrs Clinton, I'll send it over to you if she bothers to send me another one since I have not taken her up on any of the invites, mainly since i couldn't afford to go even if i wanted to. Plus I am no longer a member of NaFFAA, a pet project of hers.

I'm not too comfortable with Hilary's ties to Wall St. Hillary has been a surprisingly excellent Sen for NY tho i did not vote for her the 1st time around thinking she was a reverse carpetbagger. I'm sure if she wins, and that is still a good probability considering who's behind her, she will offer the VPship to Barak. I just wonder if he would accept? I don't think she would if he offered...joey

Sir Macky Ferniz....Greetings and felicitations! Are you a Knight of Rizal? I'm only a Sergeant at Arms. So you may address me as Sgt. Guess you didn't read my tirade about being called 'sir' in one of my previous posts.

I have spent many an hour and days on Wake Is from the time we used to fly Pan Am Strato Clippers across the Pacific to Bohol in the old days of propellers, to flying Typhoon Chaser missions TDY from there in our WC-130s from 71-74 when i was in the USAF. I was even stuck there for a week one time when we blew a tire on takeoff and it damaged the landing gear door. We had to wait for parts and maintenance personnel to get there then fix the damage along with changing the tire. I nearly died of boredom.

Wonder if you can scan that pic and post it here for all to see? Or you can just attach it to an email to me and i will post it up here.

I had been a celebrity prior to that visit when my dad would drag me all over Bohol to speak at schools and events about the UN that he made me learn like I was an ambassador or something every 2 years we would visit Bohol during the school vacation here. Meantime i felt like a freak show of this flip kid who spoke English with a 'slang' accent like they would say. I kept thinking to myself who had the accent?

Glad our Phlipside page was of service to you. The only folks who could register were the family and close friends like Zen Darunday. It is unfortunate that many of the links there have died since. Rene Sumodabilla had lots of great info about esoteric stuff about Bohol that I use to have links to at his bohol.org site he and his bro Basil ran. That stuff is now gone forever with bohol.org offline.

My son jon was the one who put up those links to the Bisaya Hervas or the Visherb alphabet, which was the long extinct form of writing. He has tatoos of his kids names in the style from one of Rene's articles about tribal tatoos there in Bohol and the RP. I put the links up about the Eskaya, something I would like to further investigate.

I was not a tornado or 'twister" hunter or chaser as they are called here. Those folks are nuts looking to get themselves killed. I flew weather reconnaissance into typhoons, hurricanes, cyclones, in the Indian Ocean, and willie-willies, as they are called down in Australia. Since there were no weather satellites back then, we also flew what were called synoptic tracks, that would gather weather data over the oceanic areas.

I used to eat lots of rice and veggies with a little meat or fish at meals since growing up in a family of 10 kids here in metro NYC, there were never enough 'viands' to go around for everyone. The bones of my ribs use to stick out until after I became an adult. Now I have a beer belly and I even don't drink beer or any other alcoholic beverages since i'm not allowed to anymore...sgt joey

Angie...Thanx for the post! I used to call my grandpa there in Ubujan Tatay and my grandma Nanay. My Nanay called me the black sheep of the family due to all the shenanigans i pulled when i was there in 66-67 acting like an ugly American teenager, not coming home to the baranguy and staying over my gf's house in the poblation, getting into drunken brawls with my cousins Pat Alagon and Eddie Israel, and running all over the place with my band RC & the Sparrows mainly at the K of C pier Bayview night club. It was all wine, women and song back then. I had a great time and many memories.

Many of the Filipinos here who know I'm a gpa call me lolo but the Filipino kids mainly call me tito. Guess that's Taglish. My gkids call me pop-pop. 

One of my most favorite things to eat were ginamous, baguong or anchovies. I'm not supposed to eat that stuff any more along with the skin of the lechon, another favorite, and chitcharon. I still eat a lot of adobo since it is soaked and cooked in vinegar, but instead of rice as a chaser, i have rabbit food...joey

b:)...i'm fine. How ya doing yourself today? Glad you got some enjoyment out of reading my bio. I actually like brown rice better than white but everyone else likes the white. My granddaughter, who i babysit, won't even eat the brown rice. If she's over my wife makes white rice and i get rabbit food.

Guess you're up near Rockland where a bro and sis of mine live up in Spring Valley. Ronkonkoma is at Exits 59-60 on the Long Island Expressway. We go there by Shelter Island almost every Jun for the Bike-Boat-Bike Ride.

I've actually been lurking here in TB ever since Google found this site for Bohol and Tagbilaran items for the Alerts I get. According to Mike, he has optimized the TB site from the start, so I've been here from the start just reading tho I only just registered recently to post my dad's obit.

There was too much bisaya here for me to handle navigating around on this bbs. The previous Bohol mailing lists that I was on for years were mostly English. I've managed to figure out what most of the words are in bisaya to get around, especially to reply.

Since I get almost daily Google Alerts linked here, I'm always stopping over if only to lurk. Guess now that I'm registered, my tracks will show up, even if i don't reply, if you know where to look for them. Glad Mike put this site up to replace the bohol.net & bohol.org mailing lists that have only recently died...joey

Lorenzo...thanx for the condolances! Unlike my dad, most of the WWII Filipino vets have gone uncompensated by the US Govt for their service with the death of the Filipino Veterans Equity Act (S. 1315 and HR 760) in this year's Congress again. If you are a US citizen, please consider contacting your Congresspersons during this year's Congress to petition them for support once the new bills are submitted again and support the Fil Vets org of your choice pushing for this resolution...joey

Grace...i hope i write as well as you read!

Why then are u more of a republican in general? What did you make of Huckabee's win then?

As a US serviceman, civil servant and now Federal contractor, i have had to keep my distance from the politicos and their parties. I vote mainly on their platforms anyway, so i've gone different ways. I have voted in every election since i was 18 since i believe it is our civic duty and responsibility to do so. I've made it my business to be as informed as i can on who the candidates are and what they believe in, not just what they are saying for the moment. The internet has made this so much easier.

Obama's win in Iowa in no way ensures him of anything other than that. The Clinton political machine is formidable. Her performance as NY's Senator is admirable, as is her ties to Wall St. Least of all, let's not forget that Edwards is a white male with a good msg also and a similar platform of issues.

Obama is also not well loved by Asian Ams. The 80-20 Initiative has a Defeat Obama campaign due to his lack of response to Asian Am issues. So Clinton, Edwards and Richardson have a much better chance in our demographic...joey

Grace...You're most welcome! I should be thanking you for the conversation, tho i end up doing most of the talking. I should shut up and listen to the more that you write.

Sure i like obama, but i didn't think he had much of a chance til last night. His victory speech brought back the feelings i had when i listened to the speeches of jfk and rfk. In an issues survey i took on the MN Public Radio website, obama ended up having the most issues i agreed with. Another at WQAD TV, obama tied with clinton for #2 with dodd a slight #1.

With dodd out, i guess that makes obama my clear choice just on the number of issues we agree on, tho there are some we don't jive with. But that speech clinch it for me provided he makes it to the Nov ballot since i am registered as an independent voter...joey

grace...jackie is great considering what she's had to put up with me. A big reason why i was half way screwed up when i married her and thru my 1st 2 marriages was the aftermath of my experiences from vietnam and the realizations, some relatively long after it. As a gook (a term 1st used by US soldiers during the 1898 Fil Am War) looking US serviceman, not only did i have to protect my front, I had to watch my back. When not with my crew, i hung out with the Aussies since they knew which side i was on.

My dad, Natalio, use to tell me war stories about taking Jap ears since the Americans would pay for them during WWII. I thought that they were just war stories until until i saw US soldiers with necklaces of them who told me that my ears were just as brown and no one would know the difference. I did not realize what i was doing there was a violation of the Geneva Convention until after. When the NWS sent me to investigate Flash flood damage in WV in the 80s, I finally got to see the ground truth of what we were doing in SE Asia. Jac said she'd leave me too unless i got counseling. I ended up going to the Vietnam Vets for help.

There also were some issues of my experiences in Angeles, Mactan and Olongapo and what most GIs remember about the RP that bugged me as my awareness of my Filipinoness emerged. I remember a girl in Angeles from Bohol who ran out on me when she found out my parents were also from Bohol when I was on one of my numerous TDY's to Clark just for typhoon missions. Things were so different back in the early 70s than when i finally got back to the RP in 2005. Now it almost like it is here in the US and even better than some places I been here in the US where there is unbelievable poverty.

On the rabbit food diet which i've learned to like despite the lack of rice , when i was growing up along with most of my siblings, we were mostly skinny and underweight. In the USAF, they put me in the 'fat boy program' because i was below the weight standard and they did not have a skinny boy program. Up to when i was in my early 40s, i had that problem being underweight no matter what and how much i ate. Once i retired from the USAF when i didn't have to maintain fitness and weight standards, things slowly began to change. It was the same for my wife Jac!

However, with my kids and nieces and nephews, it was different. By the time they were teenagers, most of them were overweight. There was little junk food when i was growing up and we probably could not afford it anyway back then. When my kids were teenagers, they would open the stocked fridge and cupboards and state there was nothing to eat in the house since my wife Jac would not buy junk food for the house and cooked almost just like my mom, since she learned a lot about cooking from her.

Now that there are fridges in the barrios of Bohol, along with electricity, piped in water, flush toilets with toilet paper instead of coconut husks, tv's, cell phones, cars and even aircon, i saw those health issues start to crop up in what many of us here in the US use to consider a 3rd world country especially in not just the barrios of Tagbilaran, but also what i saw in the barrios of Ubay and Carmen and the rural places in between.

This is not much different than here in the rural, suburban, towns and cities in the US that i been to and I've been around thanx to my jobs working for Uncle Sam who's sent me to more places in this country including Alaska and Hawaii, places where even 4WD vehicles could not get to, where we had to walk to get to where some of our sensor platform were located in headwaters areas.

Now that I'm semi-retired, and am home more than she is since she's spent a lot of time at my dad's house taking care of him with my mom gone since 2002, she saying i don't get out enough. If the weather not too cold, hot wet, windy or any combo thereof, I go out for my daily bicycle ride with my heart monitor to make sure i'm in my exercise zone, since my doc says i need to worry more about the speed of my heart than how fast i'm riding.

I think she's envious i don't have to work 5/days/week anymore in a frustrating job like she has to in the lower rungs of upper management in a corporate environment. The 2/days/week i work are by myself for good pay with little work unless the weather is bad since that's when the computers don't work as well as they should on what i call a fair weather system.

Plus I've not become the house husband she's expected being home most of the time, with no maids or houseboys either available or affordable here in this country. I feel i do more especially babysitting my granddaughter 4/days/week but i guess it's not enough. But we finally did by a dishwashing machine to make the task a bit easier to do.

I see more of my female cousins there in the RP, especially in Bohol, getting into the same situation as my wife and some of my sisters here in this country where machismo is considered to be ignorance and stupidity. Yet there seem to be more female leaders there than here. Will that spread to the home like it has here?

I've already carried on to much here in between watching all the Iowa caucus results, the wishful thinking for NH, and a political speech from Obama i have not heard the likes of since the days of JFK and RFK. I'd better sign off before i get cut off...joey

Ginger...Molde is ~370km NW of Oslo right on the west coast. Fr Botero is serving at St Sunniva Katolsk Kirke RCC, Parkveien 25, 6402 Molde. He is the bro of my cous-in-law from Ubujan, Tagbilaran, Tony Botero, who works for Tag City as a health inpsector. Gledelig Jul...joey

Ginger...thanx for the reply! Do you know any Filipinos up in Molde?...joey

Mike...guess i did such a good job of configuring my firefox that it even managed to block google ads from popping up on non-google pages. When i brought up your site in IE to check out something in FrontPage, i see you do have ads on your site. Hope that's bringing in the bucks for you. Meantime back to firefox for me since i'm not a fan of IE.

BTW, I've linked you off our Phlipside-eStateside page which I'm sure you don't mind. And to keep this post on-thread, Natalio would have loved reading your site with all the bisaya on it. In the weeks before he passed on, there were times when all he could speak was bisaya and if our sis-in-law was not there, we, the rest of the family, had a hard time figuring out what he was saying...joey

Mike...I would guess that tabacofamily.com is #1 for the Natalio Tabaco listing in google since we also use google search on our website. Because Natalio D. Tabaco is repeated many time here on tubag bohol, i can see why it rates #1. I or my son jon have not done all the suggestions from google on our website to optimize our ratings on all the search engines so you may surpass us if we keep talking about him here. 

Our family website is just that, mainly for family and friends. I would assume that all Boholanos worldwide would cover a much bigger audience. Since you don't seem to advertise here, and i wonder why, you should associate with the likes of amazon.com. The holiday purchases there almost covers our yearly expenses for our webhost and dns host costs.

It also helps for the few causes we support back in bohol as well as for the Fil Ams here in the US. When i get my part time job paycheck for the holidays, since i worked many xtra shifts for all the colleagues that took off for the holidays, i will paypal you a token present for the great job your doing here...joey

Mike...my Filipina wife told me she would kill me before she would divorce me. She also told me I am worth more dead than alive, due to all my insurance and benefits she gets if i die. She has put me on a rabbit food diet that includes no rice  because of all my senior infirmities. I told her if I can't eat what I want, I might as well be dead. She also is death on my smoking again since I had quit from last Feb to Aug when my medical insurance stopped paying for the Chantix drug I was prescribed. It was cheaper to smoke than pay the full price for the drug out of my own pocket. oh well...joey

grazie7y...Kumander ATA is asianfairy who went by that handle in the CBN (Cyber Bohol Network) mailing list from bohol.org...joey

p.s...since asianfairy is a Kumander who I called 'mam' after she previously addressed me as 'sir', I signed my msg to her as 'sgt joey'...jt

Since an obit was never written for Natalio, I just had to write one for him for the mention of his passing in a FANHS pub:

"As a provincial barrio boy from an obscure non-political family, he managed to get a BA in Industrial Arts from the Bohol School of Arts and Trades in pre-WWII Philippines. Since he could read and write English, he was drafted into the US Army early in 1941 and was honorably discharged in 1945 after WWII. He was the 1st Filipino recruited by the UN Secretariat in NY in 1946 at its original location in Lake Success on Long Island before its move to Manhattan in 1952. He was the 1st Secretariat employee to be awarded the Peace Medal for outstanding service to the cause of United Nations peace efforts on Dec 21, 1976. He managed to grandfather his VA benefits by receiving them before the passage of the Recession Act in 1946 and the US Army sent a bugler to his burial to present the US Flag to his family. Thru the VA, he bought a house in New Hyde Park, NY in 1953 that he lived in till the day he died. In it, he managed to raise 10 children, 20 grandchildren and 4 great-grandchildren here in metro NYC. He and our mom decided to become US citizens in 1999."

Some extra notes to mention here is that President Carlos P. Garcia visited our house in New Hyde Park when he was still the VP. I vaguely remember all the Secret Service out in the street and the yard during his visit when I was still a little kid back in the mid 1950s. My youngest bro Carlos was named after him and his godparents are Pres Garcia's daughter Linda and her husband Fernando Campos.

Upon his arrival in NYC in 1946, he was called on the carpet by then Philippine Ambassador to the UN Carlos Romelo who wanted to know how he got his job in the UN w/o Romelo's knowledge. Later on they became friends.

Since my father was a provincial from the barrios and not from an elite family, he and my mom were shunned by the Filipino socialites in NYC at the time prior to the 1965 influx under the new immigration laws. That's why we never knew any Filipinos when we his kids were growing up.

Since I left home in 1968 to enlist in the USAF, I did not know any Filipinos in NYC until I came back home to NYC in 1980 where upon I met my wife who was one of my sister's close girlfriends. However most of the Filipinos we knew then were the kids of people from Bohol who came to NYC post 1965...joey

Kumander ATA...thanx to the internet, this is now a truly small world especially when you know your way around as I do, having been so long in the cyberworld. I only know Mike from his website at mikeligalig.com, as many folks, especially piasanos, know me because of tabacofamily.com with our links back to the old country of the Republic of Bohol, many of which have come and gone since 1999 when our phlipside page 1st went online.

Two of those were the bohol.net after the tragic death of the Liems in a traffic accident on their way back from Reno to San Francisco, and the CBN of bohol.org from the Sumodubilas. It takes a lot of knowhow, time, money and effort to run these sites. I think it got old and expensive for Rene and his bro, who name slips me at this senior moment of mine. There seems to be a lot of help here on this board to spread around what it takes to keep it running. If my son didn't help, tabacofamily.com would be long gone!

A Happy New Year to you too mam! Hope to bring my wife to Sweden someday to show here what little I've already seen there thanx to Uncle Sam and more at a leisurely pace this time. Keep warm...sgt joey


p.s...being your next door to Norway, did you see my msg here looking for Fr Al Botero's email address over in Molde?...jt

I'd like to thank you all for the warm and gracious greetings to this board! I am somewhat vaguely familiar with the customs and culture of Filipinos, Boholanos in particular. So, mainly because of my age which I need no reminder due to all the frailties of growing older that ail me, I accept the titles of Mr and kuya, which many of my wife's relatives refer to me as. I have even learned to accept tito, which many of the Filipino youth here refer to me as despite the fact that I really am not their uncle. 

However, regardless of my awareness of Filipino tradition with titles, having retired after 21 years of military service with the USAF as an enlisted man vs an officer, and not having knighthood bestowed upon me by the Queen of England, I cringe at the title of 'sir'. We have a saying among us enlisted men who have served in the US military when addressed as 'sir': "I am not a 'sir'; I am a Sergeant! I work for a living." 

And I still do work part time, after only 14 months of being really retired, even tho I have already retired also from my civilian job after military service, since my wife has persuaded to take the job I now have in order to maintain the standard of living we have grown accustomed to while living here in metro NYC, where a fixed retirement income will not hack it. Once my wife retires, we will have to move to a more affordable place, here in the US, where the cost of living is not so high as it is here in metro NYC.

Not that I am under the saya either, but something more like what only some of us married men would only understand, especially when you have been married as many times as I have. My 1st 2 wives were white Americans, the 2nd being the mother of my 2 older sons, who would not put up with the 'cat being away, the mice will play', since my job as a Hurricane Hunter/Typhoon Chaser frequently took me away from home for unscheduled extended periods since we worked at the whim of Mother Nature. 

Tho my civilian job in the National Weather Service also frequently took me away from home for less extended periods that we more scheduled all over the US, my Filipina born and raised wife until she was eight was more tolerant of my absense not that she liked it any better either. However, her Filipino parents were divorced since her father's job in the US Navy took him away from home, but unlike me and more like many other Filipino men, he had a girl in every port.

Also, since you Filipinos are big on education, I do not want to mislead you on my educational qualifications. Tho I am listed as an alumni of the University of Albany, I did not graduate. I was recalled to active duty in the USAF Reserves in my Senior year being highly qualified to work on the automation of the Upper Air system in the Hurricane Hunter WC-130 aircraft.

I was working on a BS for a double major in both Atmospheric and Computer Sciences and an MS in Atmospheric Science doing thesis work on the Climatology of Snowfall in the State of NY. Tho my thesis work was complete, I was not able to submit a completed thesis since I did not have my BS yet. Tho I tried to complete my BS later at CCNY, my travel requirements of my job in the NWS who was paying for my scholarship did not allow me to be able to attend classes regularly enough to graduate.

My advise to those of you who are thinking of working at a job that requires more homework than your classes while you are going to school and are married with children is don't. Something will have to give whether it is your school or marriage. If it is your job, then you will loose everything anyway. And if you are married, try getting a job that mostly keeps you at home unless you don't want to be married anymore ...joey

p.s...my wife considers herself a computer widow, but she tolerates me playing with computers over me playing with other women ...jt

Does anyone have Fr Al Botero's email address? Just got a slomail Christmas card from Molde, Norway from him and would like to send him a message. Please reply only to jtabaco. Salamat…joey

I was asked by Mike that he wishes to know more about me so I thought I'd put it in this thread where it's supposed to go. Been into computers since HS, online since the early 80s at work with the NWS and at home since the late 80s with the now defunct GENIE network. My CV pretty much covers my work life. Click the links for the details.

My parents and grandparents were all from the barrios of Tagbilaran. My dad came to NYC to work for the UN in 46, my mom in 47. Since dad worked for the UN, he had home leave privileges back then which allowed the whole family to go back to Bohol almost every 2 years during summer vacation til each kid turned 18 until the old man retired.

The last time I did that was in 67. But while I was stationed on Guam with the USAF, I took an R&R leave to Bohol in 72. After I retired from the NWS in 04, I finally got a chance to go back to Bohol in Feb 05, since I was a NaFFAA delegate to the 3rd Global Filipino Networking Con held in Cebu during the last week of Jan 05.

I just became a lolo for the 4th time. Click on Connor's pic for more pics. I got 3 kids. My baby pinay princess daughter still lives with me. My older son was a web designer during the .com bubble and when it went bust, he went to work for Verizon stringing fiber. My middle son was everything from a commercial fisherman, contractor to now a sou chef in a restaurant in Manhattan that I can't afford to eat at.

My wife's family is from Lubang, Occ Mindoro and she's been here in NYC since she was 8. Her dad retired from the US Navy as a CPO. Most of her siblings are here in the US except for one in Australia. She has no desire to go back to the RP other than for a vacation. She still is working as a Sr Manager for a large private radiology group here on Long Island, NY where we own a house in Ronkonkoma.

I'm also on Facebook, Friendster and Myspace, tho I hardly log into the last 2 social networks anymore. Other than my part time job on most weekends and babysitting my grand-daughter Mon thru Thu, I do volunteer computer and web work for a few NGOs, non-profits and veterans orgs. I am the Admin for the Metro NY Chapter of FANHS.

My laptops has a WLAN card my son got me from his job at Verizon so anywhere I go with it, I have broadband access to the internet, even in a car, train or plane. I haven't figured out how to do it while I'm riding my bicycle but I'm working on it. You might say I'm a semi-retired geek...joey

lindy...Thanx for remembering me from back then on bohol.org. The thing I did not like about those days were how personal some of those posts got. I see how they are a bit more proactive here to prevent those incidents.

Paul has joined http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bohol-forum/. Since he was one of the 1st to join, I believed I asked him if he would like to be a moderator since I was not fluent in Visayan...joey

da binsi...I already somewhat regret it, but you have to relate my story more to the post WWII immigrants who came from every corner of this earth to this country where back then it was reputed to have its streets paved with gold and money grew on trees, especially for someone from the provincial barrios of the RP with no connections (another story) whatsoever. Being Borged or assimilated was the goal back then, and speaking with an accent other than Brooklynese was not desired.

I relatively recently found out that those 'white people' tried to implement those same policies imposed on the Native Americans on the Filipinos when our ancestors were sold down the river by Spain to the US. It took reading James Mitchner's Hawaii to learn why my parents never taught us bisaya or even Tagalog, even tho they could barely speak English, and participating in FANHS to really understand.

The Native American culture including its language is no more a bigger part of American History than the Filipino American culture and contributions to this country stretching back to before the US was even a country. Nor are those any bigger than those of the Irish Americans, Italian Americans, etc, etc, etc. Only that of the Anglo Americans is any bigger since we had to defeat the British in our Revolution to win our independence.

There is a summer program at Silliman University in Dumaguete City that I've heard of where I would have liked to send my kids and grandkids to learn the culture and conversational Visayan language for HS and college students. Heck, I'd go as a parent escort and sit in on the classes and functions so I could learn myself. Know they have them in Manila also but none I've heard of in Bohol.

I didn't even realize how much I was missing until my baby daughter was in college and joined the Fil Am student org there and invited me to some of its events. The only Filipinos I knew growing up were my immediate family. There were no others in my hood or schools. Once I was able to attend a FIND Dialogue, I realized that I had found my people, even tho they were a lot younger than me.

After searching around and trying out different orgs for folks my age, I finally found FANHS which was more geared to us multi-gens trying to maintain our Filipino heritage but who now call the US our 'home'. I had some Spanish in HS but never became conversant in it. I've made a stab a learning Tagalog but haven't got anywhere with it yet. Regrets? Some, but I have learned to live w/o it...joey

Mike...Thanx for your efforts here on Tubag Bohol! You carry on the online Bol-anon traditions started by the Liems of bohol.net and the Sumobillas of bohol.org back in the 90s, crucially at the demise of those services. I began noticing the Google Alerts to your site this past year.

I've been online from work since the late 80s and at home from the early 90s. I taught my kids how to use computers and my son even became a web designer during the .com bubble until it went bust. Now he works for Verizon stinging fiber. He got us our domain name in 98 and had our website up by 99, a very expensive venture back then.

But as a bbs service, I wonder what will be your viability in these days of social networks like Facebook, Friendster and Myspace? Other than the language barrier, it's another reason I held off joining. I had been a member of dozens of bbs services in the past. That has dwindled to only a few in the last year. As to the issue of exclusivity, like being Boholano, you have that opportunity to proudly do that now on Facebook as I have done.

Regardless, I do have to commend you for having the only viable Boholano forum I've found lately on the internet that is visible to the likes of Google for the rest of us to find. I'm sure you have done a lot of work as the SEO Expert here to make that so. My congrats...joey

da binsi...thanx for your reply! Unfortunately, I am not fluent in bisaya. Like I said, my father was the last of the family who called Bohol 'home'. All of us kids, grandkids and great-grandkids were born and raised here in the US, mostly in the metro NYC area, and consider Bohol the old country.

I posted this here since most of my Google Alerts for 'Bohol' and 'Tagbilaran' now come from this site. The old bohol.org and bohol.net mailing lists are now defunct. I started a new YahooGroup at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bohol-forum/ among the old mailing list users who are mainly seniors but it has not caught on. Unlike here, the majority of the posts were in English. Now with the likes of Facebook, Friendster and Myspace, I wonder about the viability of bbs's like this here. I'm on all 3 social networks tho I only real use Facebook because of my involvement in FANHS.

There is only one person left, my sis-in-law from Agusan Del Norte, who is fluent in bisaya in the extended family. My wife is from Lubang, Occ Mindoro and only speaks Taglish and doesn't understand bisaya. One of the reasons my son and I started the family website was to try and keep the heritage alive. Now with both our parents dead, it's all that's left to keep the roots alive...joey

Death Notice in Newsday

Obituary by Rene Sumobilla from the TANOCAL 25th Anniversary Album.

click here for pix from the burial, then click slideshow. (thanx to Roring Pinaflor Perez)

Another WWII vet passes away! His wife, Venancia Catay Tabaco, passed away in 2002.

The last of this line of the Tabacos who called Bohol "home"...joey