Author Topic: Women to Court Men (Read 20717 times)

ayessa · « **on:** January 18, 2009, 08:24:19 PM »

The Philippine society has evolved through the years. With the advent of modernization, much of our cultural practices, mores and norms are still prevalent in Philippine culture and a deviation of such is something that is conceived a repulsion of morality.

It is unimaginable in the Philippines for a woman to woe for a man's affection. Moreover, there must be verbal expression and confirmation of emotions before a relationship is considered official ( meaning, the need to say "I love you" and the confirmatory response "yes"). In the western world, these magic words are commonly uttered later when the emotions and feelings have developed which I find logically honest. Public dispay of emotions (kissing ang hugging) is evidently abhored most especially in the provinces. Less that I realized that this was a big cultural shock for me the first time I stood on a western land. Do our social roles and funtions forbid us from exercising the ultimate display of freedom, that is the freedom of expression?

Much that I noticed in western countries, it is not strange for a woman to propose marriage. For a Filipina woman, this is abosolutley a taboo.

Is the Philippine community ready to adapt to such kind of change? Is it hypocrisy to hide your feelings for somebody whom you have great affection just because the norms and mores forbid you so? On the otherhand, would it be destructive to the culture that we have grown up with should we adapt to these practices?

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hofelina · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2009, 11:35:51 PM »

Very good topic Indayon, the answer is no. We still have this conservative institution where in the family the woman stays at home care for the kids and the man is the breadwinner. The Pinay women nowadays are working also on their careers but in terms of family household she is still the housekeeper.
If the role is reversed, then that means that the society is ready to see women do the courting. My opinion.

Manay

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:29:09 AM »

It is actually the West (the Spaniards) who thought us these traits. Because of Spanish ultra macho society, it is the male who does the heavy chores and women are left at home.

However, before the Spanish occupation, our major religion is Hinduism. In Hinduism, it is the girl who seek her mate and propose marriage. During marriage, it is the obligation of the girl's family to shoulder all expenses including a new house, gold garments, land...etc.

It is also recorded in our history that in ancient history, both sexes are equal and there were even warrior females like princes Urduha of Luzon.

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hofelina · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:40:49 AM »

Macky you are right, I have a very good article on that akong kaykayon akong files, regards,
Manay

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lindy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:22:01 AM »

Ginapraktes pa gihapon ni didto sa India & some parts of the World. Daghan nga mga asawa nga gikuha sa mga bana gikan sa India are being abused by thier husband because of this tradition.

It is actually the West (the Spaniards) who thought us these traits. Because of Spanish ultra macho society, it is the male who does the heavy chores and women are left at home.

However, before the Spanish occupation, our major religion is Hinduism. In Hinduism, it is the girl who seek her mate and propose marriage. During marriage, it is the obligation of the girl's family to shoulder all expenses including a new house, gold garments, land...etc.

It is also recorded in our history that in ancient history, both sexes are equal and there were even warrior females like princes Urduha of Luzon.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2009, 03:11:51 AM »

The Philippines, as a nation with a Hispanic Culture (Western European), retains a paternalistic view on things. Mr. Ferniz pointed out the truth, the implantation of Spanish notion of Male Machisimo. This view is alive and present in other Latin countries, to which the Philippines belongs to. Namely: Spain, Mexico, Argentina, Peru, Chile, Columbia, Venezuela, Paraguay, Bolivia, Cuba, Honduras, Panama, Guatemala, and Puerto Rico.

Additionally, to augment this--most East Asian cultures are also paternalistic.

As society evolves and globalization continues--we shall see a lessening of this. Albeit, probably in a gradual process.

Lorenzo,

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:49:54 AM »

It is actually the West (the Spaniards) who thought us these traits. Because of Spanish ultra macho society, it is the male who does the heavy chores and women are left at home.

However, before the Spanish occupation, our major religion is Hinduism. In Hinduism, it is the girl who seek her mate and propose marriage. During marriage, it is the obligation of the girl's family to shoulder all expenses including a new house, gold garments, land...etc.

It is also recorded in our history that in ancient history, both sexes are equal and there were even warrior females like princes Urduha of Luzon.

Macky ganahan ko mobalik na! hahahah

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2009, 11:32:39 AM »

Actually,

Pinays here in the 'states are very aggressive when it comes to relationships. Like a hawk, if you get my drift, lol.

Depends on the individual, but Pinays over here arent' afraid to date outside of their race. One thing that attracts foreign men to the Filipina is her sense of conviction, and her boldness.

For example, most of the best nurses in the health system here are Filipinas; and they show little to no inhibition in telling a physician or surgeon if their prognosis or diagnosis is wrong. Blunt but honest.

It makes a Pinay a Pinay.

Sure Philippine society may still be conservative and traditional-esque, but in no way does that mean that the Filipina is inherently submissive. On the contrary, she is aggressive.

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Mari · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:16:52 PM »

i think it has something to do with exposure and influences

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:57:40 AM »

sige man ko ug kasuway sa una nga ang babaye maoy manguyab nako. pero dugay nako sugton kay abi nalang easy boy or humok ug ilong. bitaw, sugton nako dayon labina kung medyo gwapa kay basin mausab unya ang hunahuna.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2009, 03:13:32 AM »

'The early bird gets the worm'

Hahaha,

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Gener · « **Reply #11 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:52:23 PM »

I think the main point here in this discussion is whether its ok for a woman to court a man, nonetheless whether or not the Philippines is ready for it.

In my opinion, I think we should apply a selective adaptation of other country's influences while still retaining our identity as a Filipino. There is nothing wrong in embracing and adapting western culture and civilization as long as we think ourselves that we're ok with it but sometimes, its our true identity and culture that defines us from the rest of western civilization. Just ry to examine the situation or rather answer this question: "Why is it that most foreigners prefer a Filipina as a wife?" Well, perhaps they see a Filipina as a wife material more than as a sex partner. A fact that doesnt exist in their own country. With that, I don't see the need or the benefit of changing Filipino ways of being conservative. Well, maybe some will raise an eyebrow as if "HALEERR", Today is ULTRA-MODERN age where Virgins are being shot in Bagum Bayan as martyrs. But c'mon, that is what a Filipina used to be and that is our own culture, own identity as a nation.

Well time flies and so does our ways and thinking. But we should never forget what we really are. TAYO'Y MGA PINOY, TAYO'Y HINDI KANO, WAG KANG MAHIHIYA, KUNG ANG ILONG MO AY PANGO.

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Mari · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2009, 01:40:45 AM »

be it filipino or western ways, it still boils down to where a woman is comfortable with
it doesnt make you a lesser filipina if you say what you feel, it takes a lot of courage to do so and filipinas take pride of being so strong

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apothecary · « **Reply #13 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:46:35 PM »

taboos are made to be broken. hahaha

me? Ayaw na lang kay sure ko ganahan jud ko. hehehe

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hofelina · « **Reply #14 on:** January 22, 2009, 07:20:42 PM »

You are right Gener in assessing the predicament of a woman as a suitor. But I could remember my daughter who I brought up as emancipated/liberated,who chose to wait till a guy courted her, she was 23 then. She said its worth the waiting.

My daughter is 168 cm and Jan is 190 cm

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #15 on:** January 22, 2009, 10:12:54 PM »

They look great Manay!

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:14:27 AM »

this reminds of the line from Notting Hill, "i'm just a girl standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her" IGAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTT...surreal but nice.

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apothecary · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:25:52 AM »

That's painfully nice, di ba? hahahah

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ayessa · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:46:21 PM »

manay mao ni si mayumi.. cute!!

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hotandsunnybohol · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:49:01 PM »

In our time, uwaw ang baje maoy magpakita og motibo sa guy. i even told my daughters to control their feelings to a guy but the younger generations are totally different.

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ayessa · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:55:47 PM »

manay tess.
Based on personal observation, German men normally do not do the first move. Sometimes they are too shy or too engrossed with themselves.

Just like when I was in a bar, a german guy was keeping on looking at me and gloomed a smile, but he didnt do anything but smile waiting for me to do the first move. Filipina as I am I have a very deep sense of feminine pride, that is why he was left out by a Turkish guy who was more direct and extrovert.

Too bad Turkish men are not my type. The german was actually good looking and blond, just my type.

You see what I got for keeping so much of my feminine ego? hehehehe

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hotandsunnybohol · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:59:41 PM »

manay tess.
Based on personal observation, German men normally do not do the first move. Sometimes they are too shy or too engrossed with themselves.

Just like when I was in a bar, a german guy was keeping on looking at me and gloomed a smile, but he didnt do anything but smile waiting for me to do the first move. Filipina as I am I have a very deep sense of feminine pride, that is why he was left out by a Turkish guy who was more direct and extrovert.

Too bad Turkish men are not my type. The german was actually good looking and blond, just my type.

You see what I got for keeping so much of my feminine ego? hehehehe

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ayessa · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:03:48 PM »

Women in Europe are the go getter .They know what they want and they will get it by any means. They are equally philanderer too. Just like a colleague of mine who was caught by her bf having sex with another guy in their apartment.

They just dont court men, they even serve themselves immediately on the table. I am personally ashamed to do this if he would not eat what I am serving.

Personally, I believe that preserving some of the Maria Clara traits identifies who Filipinas really are. Too much of being forward and direct is also not good. Mabastosan gihapun ko mag tan-aw sa mga lovers nga grabe ang petting sa hauptbahnhof (main train station)...

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ayessa · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:06:01 PM »

quote from hotandsunnybohol.

bigaon man diay pud ka.

Kinsa may walay biga nato? Dili man ka mahimugso kung wala manguwag imung mama di ba? hahaha

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ayessa · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:09:05 PM »

Take this as an example. When you smell a delicious food put on sale on the street, would you not bother to look or even get one?

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ayessa · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:30:12 PM »

hotandsunnybohol

Who ever told you or wherever you learned that showing your feelings and affection for a guy is something that one should feel ashamed about has lived only within the four corners of her wall.

Its plain hypocrisy and a perpetuation of social order which we are used to. If you claim to be ethical or religious why would 'nt you scan pages of your bible, maybe you will find that Christ hates hypocrites! Im not that religious though...

Ang uwaw mao ang babae nga padili dili, pa virgin virgin, ang ending nabuntisan diay.. Kay nasa ilawun ang kulo. There is nothing wrong in doing the first move. There is a big mistake, when one assumes to superficially follow external observances but fails to be consistent in her actions.

Ang problema man gud ani Madam hotandsunnybohol is that, gahuwat lagi ka ang lalaki muhatag ug first move, unya gahuwat man sad siya? mahuwatanay mo hangtud pasko. Ang ing duol nimo mura man ug nawung ug baki, sige nalang kay siya may ing una??

Dont women also have the right to choose their partners? If they only consider guys who are courting them to be their choices, wouldnt it limit?

kabuang ani no?

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ayessa · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2009, 05:56:43 PM »

We should rely on something that is logical and correct. The problem with us is that we believe something to be true because someone told us or it is a common belief, norm or practice. The danger of which is disrespecting our intelligence.

We stop thinking when we keep on believing dogmas. We think that something is not true or correct because the society tells us so, if its logically or morally correct or not, I dont know.

The end of morality is to procure the affections to obey reason, and not to invade it. --Bacon

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2009, 07:23:59 PM »

it's a great leap for womens right, the right to court men. many women even princesses before cried with aching heart from this denied freedom due to our christian belief and practice. women should take this revolution 55% in their head and 45% on their heart.

ayee, you sound lika an inteligent, free thinker and an independent woman. we all know that along that line of thinking there are avenues of living life in a dangerous way and in the end, it did only bleed and drown you with misery coz of too much freedom.

i wish you luck in your new found freedom. select the best!

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ayessa · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2009, 07:30:44 PM »

Our freedom ends when somebodys rights begin. There is no abolute freedom. But freedom to think and reflect, is the challenge of us should we claim ourselves as human beings. It is because of this that we have conquered the world and out wit and out lasted the dinousaurs. Should we claim the throne to be the highest of the animal kingdom, then we should not cease to think, reflect.. And this can only be truly achieved through freeing ourselves from the bondage of ignorance.

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ayessa · « **Reply #29 on:** January 23, 2009, 07:43:35 PM »

buwadsanga

It is in my blood that I can feel that I am living. It is in my soul that I can see who I am. It is in other people that I can see where I am.

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #30 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:07:03 PM »

ok ra jud na nako ang babaye maoy manguyab sa lalake. maayo sad nang makasuway ta ug pang basted ug babaye. dili kay ang babaye lang pirme ang magbasted.

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Bambi · « **Reply #31 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:34:53 PM »

BnC magpa Maria Claro style diay pod ka?

During my younger and busy days....usik baya pod dili sugton ang gwapo bisan pag playboy siya. It is not easy to have one lover than more as one, wa lang diay tay kapili-an?

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #32 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:35:53 PM »

magpa mario claro jud. abi nalang easy boy or humok ug ilong.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 24, 2009, 02:23:02 AM »

nindot bitaw ning naay manguyab natong babaye...

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #34 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:10:01 PM »

Many of my 'coffee dates' were initiated by the woman.

It just happened that I asked them out on another 'coffee date', afterwards.

French Vanilla. Yum.

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #35 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:29:14 PM »

hehehehe, ako pud mang basted gyud kos mga chicks galig kaingon nga easy to get ang mga taga jagna. hehehehe!

siguro in the pyutyur, mang harana na nato ang mga babae. aye, harana-i ko ha. rock n roll ang gusto ko! hehehe

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #36 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:32:00 PM »

Buwad, you like to rock and roll eh?

Try dating Latinas, they can teach you to salsa.

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #37 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:33:50 PM »

ang freedom okay yan. basta di lang abosohon. pareho ni aye, poro fact nalang ang basehan. paano kong viginity ang usapan, e tilawan una aron ma hibaw-an. hehehehe okay ni da bnc

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:38:48 PM »

muabot ra nang panahona, buwad, basta sugton nimo ang babaye...lol

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #39 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:40:10 PM »

Pero, we must not be so quick to acquiesce to any woman that comes to our feet.

Finding the right woman is like finding the best apple in the apple tree.

Be selective pood.

My advice lang.

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Gener · « **Reply #40 on:** January 24, 2009, 03:00:43 PM »

Freedom to choose the way we wanted to live our life is what we're always yearning since Biblical times. We despised the Lordâ€™s way of discipline. We scorned God when Heâ€™s only concern is to keep us from sin that long separates us from Him. We call others hypocrites when all theyâ€™re after are offer their unsolicited counsel of years. We always hate to be disciplined and always yearning for freedom and right to live our life; our ways and not His. But it is our stubbornness at times that put us in harmâ€™s way. This is Biblical and not my personal discernment.

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ayessa · « **Reply #41 on:** January 24, 2009, 05:51:30 PM »

Biblical arguments do not apply to a society with diverse beliefs. It is exclusionary and prohibitive to people not believing the Christian faith. In sociology, we refer this to as the sociology of absence.
In any form or understanding, discipline must come with reason. If we discipline a child, we explain to him or her the reason why he or she is disciplined. We dont tell him that something is wrong because the society forbids it so or simply the bible forbids it so. If we do this there might be a danger of perpetuating interpretations of the bible based on male perspective ( early biblical scholars were only men). We explain to the child why it is wrong not because it does not conform to the norms of society but it suppresses the right of another person, harmful to the environment, etc. and explaining to him cause and effects of his actions. If a child understands the repercussions of his acts, then he would reflect on not doing it again.

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hofelina · « **Reply #42 on:** January 24, 2009, 08:28:40 PM »

Boys, unsa man ang inyong trip, para dili mi maglisod pag-abla? Kay very daring na man karon ang mga babaye plus the society seem to tolerate it nowadays.

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Bad Godesberg · « **Reply #43 on:** January 24, 2009, 08:31:13 PM »

Mahirap mag diskusyon sa bagay na ito.
Gawin mo na lang ang tama at makalipay sa kada usa kay naa man tay kaugalingon na prinsipyo ug kahibalo ta na unsa ang tama sa mata ng tao at sa mata ng diyos. Amen
God created us in his image , pag isipan mo yan. Ang babae ay babae at ang lalaki ay lalaki di ba pero depende sa situasyon pa rin.

happy day na lang u.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #44 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:12:44 PM »

Boys, unsa man ang inyong trip, para dili mi maglisod pag-abla? Kay very daring na man karon ang mga babaye plus the society seem to tolerate it nowadays.

Tita,

the consensus for the younger generation has been open-mindedness in a woman pursuing a man. It is an empowering aspect for the woman.

For me, I have no problem with a woman pursuing a man or asking me out. In fact many of my dates were a result of such; however, whenever I go on a date, I will always offer to pay the check. Small things like paying for a woman, opening the door for her, seating her, is, in my book, still very essential.

Sure, women are looking for independence, but most women still look and hold true to conservative notions of a man offering to pay for her, escorting her. At least, it is part of the etiquette lang.

And for me, never jud to kiss on the first date. Ug mo offer siya 'signs' on the 3rd date or so, then it is the man's right to reign it so.

Lorenzo,

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:13:12 PM »

Freedom to choose the way we wanted to live our life is what we're always yearning since Biblical times. We despised the Lordâ€™s way of discipline. We scorned God when Heâ€™s only concern is to keep us from sin that long separates us from Him. We call others hypocrites when all theyâ€™re after are offer their unsolicited counsel of years. We always hate to be disciplined and always yearning for freedom and right to live our life; our ways and not His. But it is our stubbornness at times that put us in harmâ€™s way. This is Biblical and not my personal discernment.

kagawasan man nas tawo (baje o laki) kung manguyab. way kuyaw kung ang kada-hintungdan dunay respeto sa kada-usa. ang kuyaw kung isipon nato nga ubos ang babaye kay maoy nanguyab...

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #46 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:24:13 PM »

Boys, unsa man ang inyong trip, para dili mi maglisod pag-abla? Kay very daring na man karon ang mga babaye plus the society seem to tolerate it nowadays.

lisud jud nas ginikinan, hofelina, kung dili sila open-minded aning dagan sa ubang mga babaye karon, sama aning manguyab sila. kung ang ilang pagka-daring isipon nga negaibo, dili gyud matul-id ang panglantaw nato bahin aning isyu. apan kung tratahon kini nga kabahin sa paglambo sa panglantaw sa kaangayan ngadto sa mga babaye, dako kog respeto sa mga babayeng manguyab.

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ayessa · « **Reply #47 on:** January 25, 2009, 02:33:16 AM »

nice point glacier..

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ayessa · « **Reply #48 on:** January 25, 2009, 02:59:13 AM »

A good point of reflection. Why are women ostracized or even despised when they commint adultery while it is socially tolerable and even a macho point when men commit concubinage?

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lindy · « **Reply #49 on:** January 25, 2009, 03:55:05 AM »

And HOT Dodong.

Buwad, you like to rock and roll eh?

Try dating Latinas, they can teach you to salsa.

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leoello · « **Reply #50 on:** January 25, 2009, 05:02:28 AM »

A good point of reflection. Why are women ostracized or even despised when they commint adultery while it is socially tolerable and even a macho point when men commit concubinage?

I think its the history of women viewed/treated as property to men. There are modern persecutions of the Scarlet Letter still exists, just imagine if President Bill Clinton was a woman caught messing around with a male intern?

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #51 on:** January 25, 2009, 05:23:37 AM »

Just sharing my thoughts: "Women are courting men in court" marriage by shootgun, that is. Hehehe legal means

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Gener · « **Reply #52 on:** January 25, 2009, 12:33:00 PM »

In this imperfect world that we lived in, everything seems to be double standard, sexual, government, office, school, justice, etc. But it depends on who's looking and who's doing; in principle and values. Not all men think that concubinage is socially acceptable or "Macho" in the same way that not all men believed that in adultery, it's only the woman who's at fault.

This imperfect world where justice is not fair will remain the same unless we are ready to be governed by a PERFECT, JUST and COMPASSIONATE ruler, God but in due time, He will.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #53 on:** January 25, 2009, 01:00:37 PM »

basta kung naay manguyab nakong babaye, respetaran ug respetohan pa gyud mo nako...peks man. LOL..

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #54 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:34:57 AM »

akoa nang balibaran kay dili naman pwede.

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bol-anon_ko · « **Reply #55 on:** January 27, 2009, 03:29:42 AM »

And HOT Dodong.

the chick nga tupad nmu nong lindy is much hotter.. ahaha

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #56 on:** January 27, 2009, 11:27:40 AM »

mahadlok ko ug ako ang panguyaban kay unja ug matintal ko makasaa ko as akong waswit. problema ni da! dakong tentasyon. gikas demonyo ning ideyaha!!! hehehe!

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #57 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:22:43 AM »

ayaw jud padala sa tintasyon buwad aron di ka masugba.

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Mari · « **Reply #58 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:46:26 AM »

maprito pa or magisa

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #59 on:** January 28, 2009, 09:51:14 AM »

mag-bbq ug maminudo

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bol-anon_ko · « **Reply #60 on:** January 28, 2009, 10:37:58 AM »

kadugayan tae na sad abtan ani kay nagsugud naman sa kaon

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #61 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:46:11 PM »

hahahaha. bitaw wa jud ka tug gabii hadlok ko ug pangoyaban ko sa mga babae.

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Bambi · « **Reply #62 on:** January 28, 2009, 07:01:18 PM »

hahahaha. bitaw wa jud ka tug gabii hadlok ko ug pangoyaban ko sa mga babae.

what a lucky guy you are in thoughts... mr. buwadsanga

hala Doy get ready na ug panagang sa mga "bulatik" as what normally commonly used by men. impt. what mostly ladies like "You must have to be a good cook,are you? okey lang ug dili "kinilaw" na lay idalit.

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #63 on:** January 29, 2009, 12:13:48 AM »

maayo man ning kinilaw pero wala pa ko kadungog ug naay kinilaw nga sausage ug hotdog.

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A Layman · « **Reply #64 on:** January 29, 2009, 10:33:20 AM »

Sinubang parotpot, pwede?

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #65 on:** January 29, 2009, 11:43:14 AM »

maayo man ning kinilaw pero wala pa ko kadungog ug naay kinilaw nga sausage ug hotdog.

I think sausage and hotdog are already cooked. So you are not really eating them raw even if you eat them straight from the wrapper.

Unless its the other kind of sausage or jumbo hotdog

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Nikon_D300 · « **Reply #66 on:** January 29, 2009, 12:05:41 PM »

Hhahah..nalahi na man ang topic. Bitaw, kung sa pinas pa murag lahi ra man ang baye maoy manguyab. Pero ngari sa AU mostly babae maoy manguna mo hatag ug motibo na mo-angay.

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A Layman · « **Reply #67 on:** January 29, 2009, 02:26:02 PM »

Bitaw, abi ninjo di na unta ko mangasawa sa una kay very frustrated ko niadto nga gibuwagan ko sa akong girlfriend for 9 years. Siguro na insecure na sya sa kadugay namong managtrato. I was then working in the Middle East when I received her parting letter. "I am getting married with my god brother. I can't wait no more the fulifillment of the dreams we tried to build before. Thanks for having you as part of my life, even if that was not meant forever. -Your endless love! bye!" Nahomesick jod ko when I read her letter. Gusto ko nang mag palubong sa deserto! Huh...

But life must move on. I had to stand up, dust myself off and started slowly to restore the broken pieces of my life. When I was in Manila, after two years, I noticed a girl just as beautiful as my girlfriend living some few lots away. She kept on glancing at me and threw sweet smiles at me when I caught her eyes crossing mine. One day, she said, "Hello!" to me. That was the start of our unexpected aquaintance until I invited her for a disco just nearby with my friends and relatives. We danced with the tune of the music inside. All the while, I was hoping a sweet music would be played that I could feel the warmth of her body. Alas!, but, "Endless Love" was played. I could not stand at my feet to invite her to dance with me. The music was our themesong. A themsong with my girlfriend for 9 years. Too bad...bigo pa rin ako for the whole night unable to dance with my new aquaintance. Abangan...

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Bambi · « **Reply #68 on:** January 29, 2009, 08:10:42 PM »

Hi layman!

This is a very interesting love story you related.

Being indespair after a long relationship is 99% hurting. Abi naho ug mga babaye ray mabigo sa pag-ibig?

You can make another thread for your love-life experiences. Am much interested to read it, will you?

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A Layman · « **Reply #69 on:** January 29, 2009, 08:16:12 PM »

Laktoron na lang ni nako...kay morag makahinuklog sab samtang manggawas tong mga agob ob sa akong kinabubuturan. In short, my newly found girlfreind then who is now my wife was doing the first move to entrap me. He he he...Bambs ako na syang gidawat kay unyag mawa na pod.

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enadespinosa · « **Reply #70 on:** January 29, 2009, 10:58:29 PM »

Sinubang parotpot, pwede?

this is consider an off topic..

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enadespinosa · « **Reply #71 on:** January 29, 2009, 11:03:11 PM »

why are we following those westeners and lost our culture?there are still some conservatives women that are using the maria clara approached..easy to get women just find one night stand more appropriate for them..so cheap..

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A Layman · « **Reply #72 on:** January 29, 2009, 11:11:40 PM »

this is consider an off topic..

Sori Day Ena, for the offbeat. Mora man ka lagig serious as the Maria Claras.

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kiamoy · « **Reply #73 on:** January 30, 2009, 02:11:00 AM »

Dili pani ma accept nga culture dre sa ato.
And mga lalake mismo ma tamaan ila ego.
Lahi rapud mangutana ang mga apo nga si lola tinuod ang nanguyab..

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #74 on:** January 30, 2009, 10:37:06 AM »

All societies are like that Bem. Perhaps more 'liberated' in Western countries, but that deep instinct within a man to dominate cannot be changed completely.

Beneath cultural ideals, etiquette, uniforms, medical scrubs, business suits, barong tagalogs etc,--there in lies the primal instinct of a man.

An instinct that has been pre-ordained in man's evolution from hunter-gatherer.

Beyond the abstract concepts of culture, philosophy, rights, and all man-created concepts; the underlying Biological imperative that separates a Man and Woman has been established since the development of ManKind. And the underlying instincts of a male is ingrained. An evolutionary aspect. It is a product of the processes of human development (which spans over 200 Millenias).

Lorenzo,

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #75 on:** January 30, 2009, 10:43:13 PM »

Dili pani ma accept nga culture dre sa ato.
And mga lalake mismo ma tamaan ila ego.
Lahi rapud mangutana ang mga apo nga si lola tinuod ang nanguyab..

wa pa ka kasuway ana kiams?
nakasuway nako sa una several times na nga gipanguyaban ko ug babaye.

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Bad Godesberg · « **Reply #76 on:** January 31, 2009, 10:09:11 AM »

wa pa ka kasuway ana kiams?
nakasuway nako sa una several times na nga gipanguyaban ko ug babaye.

totoo , pag sure dinha oy ! kay mutambling unja ko. Kinsa man ang malas o swerte na babae. ang lakas ng loob naman niya.
gi unsa man pag panguyab niya.

tudlui kuno ako.

+JLY

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #77 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:51:38 AM »

Hi layman!

This is a very interesting love story you related.

Being indespair after a long relationship is 99% hurting. Abi naho ug mga babaye ray mabigo sa pag-ibig?

You can make another thread for your love-life experiences. Am much interested to read it, will you?

go layman, go layman

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #78 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:55:45 AM »

sa una, sa bata-bata pako, 3 ka babaye gustong maka-suod nako, as in magka-uyab. wa to mo-developed kay wa man ko mo-sanong sa ilang gusto. friends gihapon mi karon.

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kiamoy · « **Reply #79 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:47:42 PM »

wa pa ka kasuway ana kiams?
nakasuway nako sa una several times na nga gipanguyaban ko ug babaye.

gwapo ra pud cguro kaayu ka..

wala pa ko kasuway..dili nako type ang easyboys..

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Ginger · « **Reply #80 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:54:22 PM »

totoo , pag sure dinha oy ! kay mutambling unja ko. Kinsa man ang malas o swerte na babae. ang lakas ng loob naman niya.
gi unsa man pag panguyab niya.

tudlui kuno ako.

+JLY

huh?! mo tumbling man jud. hihihi

for me there's nothing wrong saying your affection to a man so long as you maintain the level of respect. depende pud na ug gi unsa nimo pag ingon. well, it should not be in a cheap way.

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kiamoy · « **Reply #81 on:** February 01, 2009, 12:15:35 AM »

pwede raman mag show ka ug motives nga you like him..

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lindy · « **Reply #82 on:** February 01, 2009, 03:39:35 AM »

mas dili maayo nang magpalugit lugit bisan ug klaro nga duna say gusto.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #83 on:** February 01, 2009, 06:02:35 AM »

kung magkagustoay ang duha, ang pagpanguyab, formality na lang na

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kiamoy · « **Reply #84 on:** February 01, 2009, 07:11:24 AM »

hahaha! mau jud glac

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #85 on:** February 01, 2009, 08:55:19 AM »

huh?! mo tumbling man jud. hihihi

for me there's nothing wrong saying your affection to a man so long as you maintain the level of respect. depende pud na ug gi unsa nimo pag ingon. well, it should not be in a cheap way.

hahaha, Aleth Hazel, very well said.

*Bow*

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #86 on:** February 01, 2009, 11:59:57 AM »

si gingah kamao na manguyab! enjoy the freedom!

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Ginger · « **Reply #87 on:** February 01, 2009, 12:10:07 PM »

buwad, di man jud ingon na manguyab. courting and saying your affection is totally different in the sense nga kung mo court ka, you will pursue and gain attention from a particular guy while saying your affection is just telling the guy what you feel and not necessarily expect something. of course, both of you have to talk it out and if there's a possibility of building a relationship then it's up for the guy to continue the courtship. just my opinion.

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kiamoy · « **Reply #88 on:** February 01, 2009, 06:34:16 PM »

pero ang mga hapon ang girls man ang manguyab.. dba? maayu sad ni dah.

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #89 on:** February 03, 2009, 12:29:35 AM »

totoo , pag sure dinha oy ! kay mutambling unja ko. Kinsa man ang malas o swerte na babae. ang lakas ng loob naman niya.
gi unsa man pag panguyab niya.

tudlui kuno ako.

+JLY

di naka angayan mo tumbling bay kay there's no secret about it. sa nawong ug sa appeal ra na daugon. swerte sila kay usa ko katawo nga kahibalo mo respetar ug babaye ug dili kahibalo magbinuang. kung unsaon pagpanguyab sa lalake mao ra sad gud ang isulti sa babaye. :-)

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #90 on:** February 05, 2009, 11:34:09 AM »

gingah, pareho lang yan. depende sa gibati ug sitwasyon. naa naman ganiy mu lang o one night stand pud.

basta, ladies enjoy your new found freedom to court and gud luck sa pagpili.

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bol-anon_ko · « **Reply #91 on:** February 06, 2009, 07:10:23 AM »

maoba.. kuyawa nagud ani.. knsa man bayhana ang nanguyab sa lalaki?

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A Layman · « **Reply #92 on:** February 06, 2009, 07:37:50 AM »

Si Amazon na na!

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #93 on:** February 06, 2009, 12:13:07 PM »

bol-anon, uso na man ni karon...

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #94 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:53:58 PM »

sa una pa nauso ni. mga 15 years ago.

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Bad Godesberg · « **Reply #95 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:23:28 AM »

you are right ! nauso na man ni sa adto pang unang yugto sa kinabuhi ni dodong, mas ayo ang babae ang manguyab aron wala nang pakipot pa !!!
:'(

+JLY

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #96 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:10:04 AM »

hahay gugma...
panguyab pa

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #97 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:11:09 AM »

man, white chics can't have enough of the Filipino man. lol.

You guys notice alot of white chics have a 'thing' for Pinoys?

I've noticed it in college.

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