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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #80 on: May 06, 2010, 12:06:40 PM »
hahahaha..naay daghan. pero, kung naay tabon sa nawong ug wala sa ubang bahin sa lawas, magfiesta ta. hahahahahha

bitaw, quel. hahahaha...ug upaw ang nawong, upaw pod ang ubos? hahahhaahha

humba galing imong tuyo, glace, hahaha. ;D ;D ;D 

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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #81 on: May 06, 2010, 12:10:28 PM »
Yes, more often than not, it is worse, mind you. We share a bias of course being emotionally attached but when you look and really think of all that has happened when you were growing up, it clearly shows the bad habits and attitudes result in even worse than what is even reported in the news. Of course, money and power come into play, except in cases of extreme egregiousness like Mayor Sanchez. Otherwise, would we really hear of just 2 or 3 women they raped and killed ?


spoken like a true immigrant.  (there are of course stereotypes about your kind, but that’s not the point here and, well, i’ve always abhorred stereotypes.) 

congratulations, then, for growing up amid this supposed moral squalor and coming out good somewhere else, and then considering yourself in the position to make judgments of the country where you became what you are.  be glad, too, that your relatives back home are still alive amid all the worse, mind you, that your original country is, much worse than what is reported in the news, as you say.





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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2010, 12:12:34 PM »
On the upside, there are a lot of good as well, the term, " Universality of the Human Experience" . It hurts to think about but it seems that all of most of our values that we thought as ours is not exclusive to us. Warm hospitality, sense of kabayanihan, family ties... I live in a community where there is a hodge podge of colors and nationalities and where you visit friends, hospitality is as warm as any Filipino household, most of the time, even better.


we share the realization that such human values are not exclusively ours in the first place because not realizing this is opposed to the  “universality of the human experience”.


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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2010, 12:45:01 PM »
Bai glace daghan raba manglubot didto.

hahahaha..naay daghan. pero, kung naay tabon sa nawong ug wala sa ubang bahin sa lawas, magfiesta ta. hahahahahha

bitaw, quel. hahahaha...ug upaw ang nawong, upaw pod ang ubos? hahahhaahha

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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #84 on: May 06, 2010, 01:46:21 PM »
Wow, now you're taking potshots. Just because my interest doesn't lie where I'm not wanted should take to mean I'm not intellectually curious ? Hmmmm.....maybe all that time studying roses and planting techniques I should've spent studying something useless 


not really, because what you perceive as “potshots” are simply my answer to your claim that “i’m very lonely in that minority” for having access to another kind of information.  i only wondered what the basis of this particular claim of yours is.
   
anyway, if you were not super intellectually curious (you didn’t mention “cleansing of one’s stereotypes”) then you wouldn’t be posting here your ideas and conclusions about other cultures, nor would you be studying roses.  so, fine,  don’t study something that doesn’t interest you (and thus should one not make conclusions sans sufficient basis) because you’re “not wanted” there.  i take it to mean that you’re wanted in the u.s. and by the roses.

oh, i’ve been growing orchids, which i studied formally at the beginning, for the last 18 years.

meanwhile, my apologies for what you perceive as potshots. 



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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2010, 01:48:54 PM »

Majority = the most people....hmmm, 49% is minority,51% is majority wouldn't you say so, then it follows that if there's a better number of people who view that region negatively rather than positively, it follows that the previous group is a majority.


ugh.  i’m sorry but your logic escapes me here.  i wonder if it’s the sentence construction or the strange scientific process of arriving at a conclusion. 



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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #86 on: May 06, 2010, 01:54:22 PM »

Yes, lots of Americans are ill informed...so are a lot of Filipinos. But come to think about it, if everyone was concerned about things that are useless in their daily lives, do you honestly think there could be progress ?  Your wealth of knowledge about geopolitics won't buy a mansion but maybe a wealth of knowledge in stocks, commodities or real estate will. You can't blame people for pursuing what is important to them...and FYI, I don't think most Americans think they're the center of the world. Just like how most Filipinos think that everything from the US is better, a lot of Americans think that if its from Europe, its better...so on and so forth.


fine.  everything is a matter of style, so to speak.  (i won’t call your roses “kagwangs” or useless because i have a meager knowledge of roses, though i’m interested in giving myself a chance to learn.)   

we got into this discussion in the first place because of your conclusion about a region and its “kagwangs” for which you eventually admitted you have meager knowledge about nor interested to learn more about.  sure, my knowledge of geopolitics won’t buy me a mansion (not interested; couldn’t maintain it), but neither would your lack of it buy you one.

whoever is blaming anyone here for pursuing what is important to them?  i only wanted to clear up some misperceptions with the little firsthand knowledge that i have.  and yes, we both know that most americans don’t think they’re the center of the world.  to believe otherwise is another form of misperception. 

fyi, i doubt if most filipinos think that everything from the u.s. is better.  i, for one, believe that czech crystals, venetian lace, french perfume, portuguese corks, german cars, swiss mountains, spanish oranges, italian olives, japanese technology, british english, thai sauce, european football, filipino husbands, and american practicality are the best.       



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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #87 on: May 06, 2010, 02:03:50 PM »

Again you take potshots. High horse ? I believe you have not really seen one yet so I'll let you off the hook on that one. IF anything, your comments have grown more and more condescending. Maybe you should rethink and actually socialize more , maybe you'll see what real people's concerns are.  Lonely ? you can draw your own conclusions. If anything, people who seem to think they're the end all , be all of knowledge are the most lonely. So, you can be alone in your citadel of geopolitical authority while I go to dinner and plant swap with my plant buddies, and be the normal, average, human being that I am  ;)


what’s so bad about a high horse?  you will let me off the hook on that one?  whew!  no greater love hath she.  it’s just too bad that you perceive my comments as becoming more and more condescending.  (my apologies.)   to think that i believed (so I was wrong then, sorry) that you were the condescending one when you called another race “kagwang”.
 
thanks for your suggestion that i should rethink and socialize some more.  that’s another rushed conclusion of yours, thinking that people with more inclusive knowledge of things other than those that concern their daily lives are not socializing and thus could not see what “real people’s concerns are”.  (btw, what kind of people are not real?)  oh,  sorry for using your word “lonely”.  (“you must be lonely in the minority”, was how you put it in an earlier post.)

as for socialization, too bad i have more than i could bear.  i’m now in the thick of preparations for a dog show as publicity committee member.  but last night was an interesting dinner over indian fare with the chief justice (the host), a fellow filipino (a tennis player with a masteral degree in physics), and an american couple (a lady lawyer and a banker).  the latter was a very interesting couple who asked my husband and me how we met.  and when i asked them how they met, all hell broke loose.  you bet i learned some more of what “real people’s concerns are”.   

if anything, “people who seem to think they’re the end all, be all of knowledge” and end up admitting that they’re not interested in learning more but have made conclusions based on these meager knowledge are not only lonely, they’re pathetic.

talk to your plants; they listen.  (i do.)  they make us “normal, average human beings”.  but then you already are, judging from your own declarations and your avatar.  if that is you in your avatar, i must say you’re personable.  and that’s a conclusion based only on the picture that i see.  i hope you will also let me off the hook on this one.     



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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #88 on: May 06, 2010, 05:46:37 PM »
Wow...really got under your skin on that one didn't I....feels like the wind is blowing stronger already. Keep it coming o most high ROFLMAO  ! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #89 on: May 06, 2010, 06:06:31 PM »
Wow...really got under your skin on that one didn't I....feels like the wind is blowing stronger already. Keep it coming o most high ROFLMAO  ! ;D ;D ;D

ROFLMAO here too!  you have nothing more to say except to tell yourself that you got under my skin?  go dream, girl.  i wasn't the one who complained about potshots.  but hold on tight, more winds are coming.  you're not the only one who can blow, girl!  after you, wooooooooooo! ;D ;D ;D
 

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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #90 on: May 06, 2010, 07:47:31 PM »
spoken like a true immigrant.  (there are of course stereotypes about your kind, but that’s not the point here and, well, i’ve always abhorred stereotypes.)  

congratulations, then, for growing up amid this supposed moral squalor and coming out good somewhere else, and then considering yourself in the position to make judgments of the country where you became what you are.  be glad, too, that your relatives back home are still alive amid all the worse, mind you, that your original country is, much worse than what is reported in the news, as you say.




Tinuod ni worse jud ang situation sa atua. Last sunday nagvisit sa among parish ang pari nga american nga na assign sa Pilipinas. Touching kaayo iyang sermon ingon niya extreme jud daw ang poverty sa atua. Shocking kaayo iyang mga observation kay puro jud tinuod alhough gibati baya ko ug kauwaw kay filipina gud ko pero siya man jud mismo nakaobserve sa sitwasyon didto. I was shock kay bisan ako dili aware sa kalisod sa atua.Pila man nato diri ang nakaadto sa mga squatter area sa Manila?I admit dili jud nuon ko mopatuga tuga ug tunob sa mga slum area kay sa atong hunahuna baya nga ug moadto ta didto mogawas pa ba kaha tang buhi? The same rapud ni nga dili mo modrive sa east st. louis nga known as black community kay basin di unya pud ta makagawas nga buhi. So magpasalamat jud ta aning pariha sa among mission priest nga isog jud moadto aning mga lugara kay tungod nila na open atong mata sa kamatuoran the same ra pud ni Islander nga siya mismo nakaobserve sa culture aning muslim which help us a lot nga nakalearn ta tungod ani nila.



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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #91 on: May 06, 2010, 08:34:02 PM »
Exchanging ideas with people with a  chip on their shoulder is always a colossal waste of time. Just because one's view differs from others doesn't necessarily make them wrong or beneath anybody. There's no excuse for condescension and personal attacks ...or of course, strategically boasting of what one's lifestyle is all about. Good on you .

As you said yourself, "your little knowledge".  Well, my choice not to associate or have anything to do with that part of the world is based on personal and business experiences. Not yours but mine. Your obvious love, devotion and pride are yours as well.

i only wanted to clear up some misperceptions with the little firsthand knowledge that i have.

I've said all I have to say. You can twist my words all you want, there is no point in  participating in a humbug match in an anonymous forum. Good on you, more power to you and enjoy your bubble...or wherever you are.  8)

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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #92 on: May 06, 2010, 08:49:04 PM »
Exchanging ideas with people with a  chip on their shoulder is always a colossal waste of time. Just because one's view differs from others doesn't necessarily make them wrong or beneath anybody. There's no excuse for condescension and personal attacks ...or of course, strategically boasting of what one's lifestyle is all about. Good on you .

As you said yourself, "your little knowledge".  Well, my choice not to associate or have anything to do with that part of the world is based on personal and business experiences. Not yours but mine. Your obvious love, devotion and pride are yours as well.

I've said all I have to say. You can twist my words all you want, there is no point in  participating in a humbug match in an anonymous forum. Good on you, more power to you and enjoy your bubble...or wherever you are.  8)

then say no more, chip.  (my shoulder won't accept you.)  who said anything about someone being wrong or beneath anyone?  i wasn't the one who called people "kagwang".  truly there's no point in your participation, even if you just did willingly, especially when you resort to accusations in your posts on top of your biases.  yes, i'm enjoying my bubble.  yours had just burst.   

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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #93 on: May 06, 2010, 09:16:00 PM »
huy taympa ra gud, dis a naman mo naabut? sa Jupiter o sa Pluto? ahahahha!

masamut ka HAY-BLAD to si HIGHBLOOD kay nag ininglis mo! wahahahhaha jawk!



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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #94 on: May 06, 2010, 09:59:57 PM »
huy taympa ra gud, dis a naman mo naabut? sa Jupiter o sa Pluto? ahahahha!

masamut ka HAY-BLAD to si HIGHBLOOD kay nag ininglis mo! wahahahhaha jawk!



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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #95 on: May 07, 2010, 06:35:38 AM »
Banning the use of face veil is a violation of human right. It's one of their religious belief.

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Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« Reply #96 on: May 07, 2010, 08:08:04 AM »
So sir Felix, banning pagdala ug bible, crucifix ug rosaryohan didto sa Saudi is also a violation of human right as it is also a catcholic religious belief.

Banning the use of face veil is a violation of human right. It's one of their religious belief.

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