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The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« on: December 10, 2008, 11:53:53 am »
Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. 

During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration.  The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” 

ach Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week.  At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 12:35:22 pm »
Born on Dec. 25 ?

Honest scholars admit that the customs of Christmas and a Dec. 25 celebration long predate the birth of Christ. Nevertheless, wasn't Jesus born on Dec. 25 ? Let's look at some of the scriptural evidence.

Luke's Gospel, describing Christ's birth, tells us: "So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered. And she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night" (Luke 2:6-8, emphasis added throughout).

We see that when Jesus was born shepherds were spending the night with their flocks in open fields. In that region, from December to February, though the heat of the day might feel comfortable enough when the human body is covered, the cold of the night was piercing. Thus the shepherds never kept their flocks and herds out in the open country from December through February-it was simply too cold (Alexander Hislop, The Two Babylons, 1959, p. 2). This in itself tells us that Jesus could not have been born anywhere near Dec. 25.

The Roman census system is another historical proof that Jesus wasn't born in December. Luke 2:1 tells us that "it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered." However, this would not have happened in winter because "the middle of winter was not fitting for such a business, especially for women with child, and children to travel in. Therefore, Christ could not be born in the depth of winter ... And if any shall think the winter wind was not so extreme in these parts, let him remember the words of Christ in the gospel, `pray that your flight be not in the winter'" (Hislop, p. 92).

The Romans were efficient administrators. They would never consciously choose a time to register every man, woman and child when travel would have been so difficult because of cold and inclement weather. Here, too, is biblical proof that Jesus was not born in December's cold weather.

A far more likely scenario is that Jesus was born in the autumn, around the time of the biblical Feast of Tabernacles (Leviticus 23:34-36), when Joseph and Mary would have traveled to Jerusalem to keep the Feast along with thousands of other Jewish families. This also helps us understand why in the town Bethlehem, a few miles to the south of Jerusalem, "there was no room for them in the inn" (Luke 2:7)-the town would have been crowded with other travelers keeping the Feast at this time of year. (For additional biblical evidence that Jesus was likely born at this time and not on or near Dec. 25, request our free booklet Holidays or Holy Days: Does It Really Matter Which Days We Keep?)


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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 01:13:13 pm »
vatican must do something about this.

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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2008, 02:05:03 pm »
With the above revelation it is not surprising to know that in the near future xmas celebration will be move to another dates, unsa kahay reaksyon sa simbahang catoliko.

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2008, 03:01:06 pm »
i personally don't believe this... sorry ma sano ug sana...

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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2008, 04:56:12 pm »
i guess people believe on what they want to believe even if it is wrong.

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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2008, 05:13:16 pm »
i personally don't believe this... sorry ma sano ug sana...

Calle, you can search in Google for the term "origin of Christmas" and you'll get the same results from Wikipedia to many other historical websites.

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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2008, 07:00:57 pm »
There is nothing wrong in celebrating Christmas in its holy sense. What went wrong is that it is highly commercialzed and we are  becoming a hedonistic society.

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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2008, 07:55:57 pm »
I believe that December 25th is not the birth of Jesus infact i have so many evidence, references that proves this.

Many christians following this tradition even they do not know what is truth..
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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2008, 08:47:52 pm »
The Ancient and Pagan Origin of Christmas
 
Most of the traditions we practice on December 25th have nothing to do with the birth
of Jesus, which probably actually occurred in late summer or early fall. In fact, most
of the customs and traditions of Christmas actually pre-date the birth of Jesus.  Here
are a few examples: 
 
The date of December 25th probably originated with the ancient birthday of the son-
god, Mithra, a pagan deity whose religious influence became widespread in the Roman
Empire during the first few centuries A.D. Mithra was related to the Semitic sun-god,
Shamash, and his worship spread throughout Asia to Europe where he was called
Deus Sol Invictus Mithras. Rome was well-known for absorbing the pagan religions
and rituals of its widespread empire. As such, Rome converted this pagan legacy to a
celebration of the god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god during the winter
solstice period. The winter holiday became known as Saturnalia, and began the week
prior to December 25th. The festival was characterized by gift-giving, feasting, singing
and downright debauchery, as the priests of Saturn carried wreaths of evergreen
boughs in procession throughout the Roman temples. 
 
But after the conversion of emperor Constantine in 313 A.D. to Christianity, this new
religion was spread throughout the empire and Mithraism, as St. Jerome reports, was
forcefully subdued, especially in Rome and in Alexandria. In 376 A.D. Pope Leo
destroyed the temple of Mithra. Despite that, the Mithraic festival of the birth of the
Sun continued, as it was fun to be merry in the middle of the winter. It was not till the
year 530 AD that the church commissioned the Monk Dionysius Exiguus to proclaim
this popular time of the year as the birth of Christ. Constantine converted to
Christianity, but he kept celebrating this pagan festival, and transformed it into the
Christian holiday of Christmas. 
 
Many of the symbols associated with the modern holiday of Christmas such as the
burning of the Yule log, the eating of ham, the hanging of boughs, holly, mistletoe, etc.
are apparently derived from traditional northern European Yule celebrations. When
the first missionaries began converting the Germanic peoples to Christianity, they
found it easier to simply provide a Christian reinterpretation for popular feasts such
as Yule and allow the celebrations themselves to go on largely unchanged, rather than
trying to suppress them. 
 
The use of evergreen trees during Christmas comes from Germany, where it was used
in the Yule Time worship and celebration, as well as in observance of the resurrected
sun god, and of the Winter Solstice. The evergreen represented life, and also was
regarded as a phallic symbol in fertility worship.

It was believed that the red berries of the holly was a symbol of the menstrual blood of
the queen of heaven, Diana. The white berries of mistletoe were considered to be the
droplets of the semen of the sun god. Branches of holly and mistletoe were hung in
doorways of temples and homes, and it was believed that kissing beneath them will
make the spirits of the god and goddess to enter one’s body and make them fertile.   
 
The Scandinavian tradition of slaughtering a pig at Christmas, and not in the autumn,
is evidence of this conversion. The tradition derives from the sacrifice to the god Freyr at the Yule celebrations. Halloween and Easter are theorized to have been likewise
assimilated from northern European pagan festivals.
 
English historian Bede's Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum ("Ecclesiastic History
of the English People") contains a letter from Pope Gregory I to Saint Mellitus, who was
then on his way to England to conduct missionary work among the heathen Anglo-
Saxons. The Pope suggests that converting heathens is easier if they are allowed to
retain the outward forms of their traditional pagan practices and traditions, while
recasting those traditions spiritually towards the one true God, instead of to their
pagan gods (whom the Pope refers to as "devils"), "to the end that, whilst some
gratifications are outwardly permitted them, they may the more easily consent to the
inward consolations of the grace of God". The Pope sanctions such conversion tactics
as Biblically acceptable, pointing out that God did much the same thing with the
ancient Israelites and their pagan sacrifices.
 
Although the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ was superimposed upon
ancient Pagan traditions, it does not, or should not, diminish the arrival of the "Prince
of Peace", and his original message of tolerance, compassion, giving and peace. Who
ever you worship, it is a time of joy, of giving, compassion, of praying for peace and of
gift giving and celebration!

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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2008, 11:20:32 pm »
I really didnt believe that Jesus was born in December... look at the pictures guys! Look at what they are wearing? and the sorroundings?

Do you think they could survived the cold with just linen and even the baby without thermal wear? Honestly not only that there are many proofs...

But you know what? who knows if Jesus was born in Somalia!

For me December is just for fun, thats all.

It is fun isnt it?

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Re: The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 08:08:57 am »
We, in the Missionary Baptist churches don't have any church services relating
to Christmas celebration. We have christmas parties , gift giving and etc. because
it is part of our culture  and traditions and it is  one of the most celebrated
Filipino festival.

We believed that Christ was born but not on Christmas Day.

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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 08:20:54 am »
   
Out of the thousands of subscribers of this blog, 6 of you were wondering why I don’t celebrate Christmas. Maybe you read my comments posted on this blog.

I know that you knew that Christmas is not a political celebration but a religious one. So, those who are Catholics and Protestants celebrate it. But Muslims and members of other religion, on the other hand, do not celebrate Christmas.

But you might be wondering why a Christian like me do not celebrate Christmas when in fact Christmas is the celebration of the birthday of Christ.

To let you know, I don’t want to talk about religion. I was blogging on this before but the result is not good or advantageous. But since you asked this to me, so I am forced to answer: why I don’t celebrate Christmas?

Christmas is just the invention of the Roman Catholic Church

When I was still a Catholic, December 16 to December 25 were few of my busiest days of the year. To let you know, I grew up serving the San Agustin Parish (Diocese of Surigao del Sur) as Sacristan. When I was 9 years old I became an Altar Boy (that was when Rev. Valentine Kind was our Parish Priest), and was promoted to Sacristan Mayor at the age of 14 (Rev. Peter O’niell was our Parish Priest at that time).

I found the celebration good and enjoyable. But I realized that the celebration is the teaching neither of Christ nor the Apostle but just an invention of the Roman Catholic Church. If you’ll dig up the Bible, you will never find any teaching that tells everyone to celebrate the birthday of Christ. What was taught by Christ is the commemoration of His death (not His birthday).

December 25 is not Christ’s Birthday

If you are reading the Bible, did you read any verses that tell us the birthday of Christ?

I was reading the Bible since my elementary school years but I found nothing. What I found are clues when Christ born like:

That was when Christ parents went to Bethlehem to register themselves as told by a decree of Caesar Augustus.
During the birth of Christ, shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flocks by night.
Now, dig up your encyclopedias and history books about these if these are the signs of winter season.

December 25, Originally Pagan Feast

Let’s consider this wikipedia entry:

A winter festival was traditionally the most popular festival of the year in many cultures. Reasons included less agricultural work needing to be done during the winter, as well as people expecting longer days and shorter nights after the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.[8] In part, the Christmas celebration was created by the early Church in order to entice pagan Romans to convert to Christianity without losing their own winter celebrations.[9][8] Certain prominent gods and goddesses of other religions in the region had their birthdays celebrated on December 25, including Ishtar, Sol Invictus and Mithras. Various traditions are considered to have been syncretised from winter festivals including the following: ….

… Alleged representation of Christ in the form of the sun-god Helios or Sol Invictus riding in his chariot. Third century mosaic of the Vatican grottoes under St. Peter’s Basilica, on the ceiling of the tomb of the Julii.
Alleged representation of Christ in the form of the sun-god Helios or Sol Invictus riding in his chariot. Third century mosaic of the Vatican grottoes under St. Peter’s Basilica, on the ceiling of the tomb of the Julii.

The Romans held a festival on December 25 called Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, “the birthday of the unconquered sun.” The use of the title Sol Invictus allowed several solar deities to be worshipped collectively, including Elah-Gabal, a Syrian sun god; Sol, the god of Emperor Aurelian (AD 270–274); and Mithras, a soldiers’ god of Persian origin.[13] Emperor Elagabalus (218–222) introduced the festival, and it reached the height of its popularity under Aurelian, who promoted it as an empire-wide holiday.[14]

December 25 was also considered to be the date of the winter solstice, which the Romans called bruma.[10] It was therefore the day the Sun proved itself to be “unconquered” despite the shortening of daylight hours. (When Julius Caesar introduced the Julian Calendar in 45 BC, December 25 was approximately the date of the solstice. In modern times, the solstice falls on December 21 or 22.) The Sol Invictus festival has a “strong claim on the responsibility” for the date of Christmas, according to the Catholic Encyclopedia.[1] Several early Christian writers connected the rebirth of the sun to the birth of Jesus[15] “O, how wonderfully acted Providence that on that day on which that Sun was born . . . Christ should be born”, Cyprian wrote.[1]

Another record states that Christmas is just an invention of an heretic:

“An Armenian writer of the eleventh century states that the Christmas festival, invented in Rome by a heretic, Artemon, was first celebrated in Constantinople in 373.” (The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, vol. 3, p. 47)

Celebrated with pagan rituals

It was recorded in The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge that says:

“The pagan festival with its riot and merry-making was so popular that Christians were glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit or in manner. Christian preachers of the West and the Nearer East protested against the unseemly frivolity with which Christ’s birthday was celebrated, while Christians of Mesopotamia accused their worship for adopting as Christian this pagan festival. Yet the festival rapidly gained acceptance and became at last s firmly established that even the Protestant revolution of the sixteenth century was not able to dislodge


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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2008, 08:37:44 am »
Welcome to the club, fdaray!  ;)

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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2008, 08:55:33 am »
hhmmmm i'll do my research.. till then..

fdaray: asa nga town ang san agustin parish? sa san agustin? kay pirmi man ko surigao del sur when i was younger..

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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2008, 09:02:12 am »
Mobalik na sab ta sa unang patotoo before ng Holy Roman Empire about Ptoleme's geocentric theory when they later on scraped off from the scriptures as a big flaw when Galileo Galilee and Johanes Kepler insisted the heleocentric theory of Nicholas Copernicus. When the Copernican theory was finally adapted by the Holy Roman Empire the Julian Calendar was also replaced by the Gregorian Calendar which is of use today. The other notable change which merits vital consideration is the geographical and climatic change over thousands of years.

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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2008, 10:30:23 am »
I really didnt believe that Jesus was born in December... look at the pictures guys! Look at what they are wearing? and the sorroundings?

Do you think they could survived the cold with just linen and even the baby without thermal wear? Honestly not only that there are many proofs...

But you know what? who knows if Jesus was born in Somalia!

For me December is just for fun, thats all.

It is fun isnt it?

Correct ka Belskie, musta na oi nasakpan baya ko ninyo ni Haze sa fs. he he.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2008, 11:45:00 am »
Calle, TY for threading this topic. This topic speaks the truth of the Bible.
If Catholics celebrate Christmas  its all right. They had a doctrine for that
declared the Pope but it  is not Biblical.
 
I do not know of San Agustin parish in our provice of Davao del Sur.

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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2008, 12:00:36 pm »
fdaray: the catholic doctrine must have been based on something. mao na ako pangitaon sir. im tolerant naman when it comes to religion. i don't like debates on religion though. pero diri sa tb murag ok ra, kinda cool lang kasi.

di ba nakapuyo ka sa Surigao del Sur? kay ingun man ka nagsakristan ka didto? asa sa sds?

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2008, 12:35:02 pm »
Wala ko nakapuyo didto. Daghan ko ug mga relatives didto kay ang igsoon
sa akong Lolo didto manimuyo sukad pa sa  1900. Daghang ang mga Daray
clan didto sa Madrid, Carmen, ug Cantilan.

The Catholic Doctrine has the Doctrine of Infallability. In this teaching, they
believed that the Pope being the vicar of Christ on earth can not commit
mistakes if he proclaims , decides and confirms on matters about God or
teachings of Chirst.

In this doctrine, they believed that when the priest give blessings to bread
and wine during the mass, it becomes the real, true and genuine blood of
Christ.

This is also the same thing when the Pope declared that Jesus was born on
Dec. 25.


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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2008, 01:34:53 pm »
transubstantiation tawag sa process na mahimong real blood and body of Christ sa wine and bread.

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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2008, 12:09:44 pm »
Do you believe that it  becomes the real flesh and blood of Christ.? Is it real and genuine that it contains  living cells?


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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2008, 01:46:30 pm »
I do. No doubts, no hesitations. I remember a time when Mother Theresa of Calcuta paid the late Pope John Paul II a visit in Vatican. Mother Theresa attended a Eucharistic Celebration officiated by the Holy Father. When she took the communion, she had blood stains in her lips. Howelse would we explain that? God works in mysterious ways indeed. One of these mysteries is the transubstantion. And that what happens to Mother Theresa.

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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2008, 02:04:04 pm »
Do you believe that it  becomes the real flesh and blood of Christ.? Is it real and genuine that it contains  living cells?


Absolutely believe that the Wine becomes the Blood of Christ. And Bread into His Body.
This has been an Apostolic Tradition since the time of the Apostles. Eucharistic Adoration is not only in Catholic Tradition, but is also shared in Orthodoxy. Both of whom, are the original Christian Churches. The latter, merely a split of the Catholic Rite.

Christ established the Catholic Church. And NOT even the gates of HELL can destroy it.
For 2 thousand years, the church has stood. It has spread the Faith to the 4 corners of the World. It has survived wars, and attacks on its Body. And continues to grow.

Please examine Matthew 16.

"Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven"

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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2008, 02:05:48 pm »
I do. No doubts, no hesitations. I remember a time when Mother Theresa of Calcuta paid the late Pope John Paul II a visit in Vatican. Mother Theresa attended a Eucharistic Celebration officiated by the Holy Father. When she took the communion, she had blood stains in her lips. Howelse would we explain that? God works in mysterious ways indeed. One of these mysteries is the transubstantion. And that what happens to Mother Theresa.

The Works of Blessed Theresa and the Sisters has brought salvation to thousands upon thousands of Indians in India. Many orphans who would have died, are alive, and many of whom are educated now, adopted, or living. Catholicism is strong in Southern India. Blessed Theresa has brought the WORD of God to that part of the world.

Glory be to God in the Highest.

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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2008, 02:10:19 pm »
Do you believe that it  becomes the real flesh and blood of Christ.? Is it real and genuine that it contains  living cells?


Now faith is a well-grounded assurance of that for which we hope, and a conviction of the reality of things which we do not see.
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2008, 02:13:12 pm »
Do you believe that it  becomes the real flesh and blood of Christ.? Is it real and genuine that it contains  living cells?


1 Corinthians 10:16
16  The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of Christ?

Acts 2:42
42  They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.

John 6:53
53  So Jesus said to them, "Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.





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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2008, 02:15:14 pm »
The Traditions of the Catholic Church is Apostolic. It was the CHURCH that compiled the bible. The CHURCH existed before the Bible. Remember that. :)

In fact, Reading Scripture should be in lieu with Apostolic Tradition. And not on basis of one's own interpretation. Scripture and Tradition was made for each other. To properly profess and preach the BLESSED WORD.


PLEASE read:

"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us"
--2 Thess. 3:6.


To make sure that the apostolic tradition would be passed down after the deaths of the apostles, Paul told Timothy,
"What you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also"
--2 Tim. 2:2

 In this passage he refers to the first four generations of apostolic succession—his own generation, Timothy’s generation, the generation Timothy will teach, and the generation they in turn will teach.

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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2008, 04:07:21 pm »
Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation or "the real presence" was simple and direct. The idea contradicts common sense, he said. The doctrine claims that the bread and wine used in the communion ceremony is changed in substance so that what is bread and wine to all the senses is in fact the body and blood of Christ. If it looks like bread, smells like bread, tastes like bread, then it is bread. To believe otherwise is to give up the basis for all knowledge based on sense experience. Anything could be other than it appears to the senses. This argument has nothing to do with the skeptical argument about the uncertainty of sense knowledge. This is an argument not about certainty but about reasonable belief. If the Catholics are right about transubstantiation, then a book might really be a bishop, for example, or a pear might actually be Westminster Cathedral. The accidents of a thing would be no clue as to its substance. Everything we perceive could be completely unrelated to what it appears to be. Such a world would be unreasonable and unworthy of God. If the senses can't be trusted in this one case, they can't be trusted in any. To believe in transubstantiation is to abandon the basis of all knowledge: sense experience.

If it becomes real blood that contains live cells then the priest becomes a cannibal when he drinks during the mass. The bread and wine  symbolizes the body  and blood of Christ and not as real and genuine.


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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2008, 04:24:30 pm »
I won't equate my faith with common sense or sense experience or what-have-yous.

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« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2008, 05:23:01 pm »
I do. No doubts, no hesitations. I remember a time when Mother Theresa of Calcuta paid the late Pope John Paul II a visit in Vatican. Mother Theresa attended a Eucharistic Celebration officiated by the Holy Father. When she took the communion, she had blood stains in her lips. Howelse would we explain that? God works in mysterious ways indeed. One of these mysteries is the transubstantion. And that what happens to Mother Theresa.




 There was one time nga gihisgutan ang diary ni Mother Teresa nga sija gani was in doubt of Jesus...nalimot na ko basta i heard it from the TV...I dont know guys ug naka dungog ba mo kay it was only aired in a very short time, kay i know gi banned to sa Vatican nga issue...kabalo na mo sa power sa Vatican.

Anyhow ayaw nalang ninjo lalisa ang pasko, mag enjoy nalang ta. Kay ako bisan di ko mag celebrate enjoy man japun ko kay gawas daghan LAFANG nindot pa jud ang mga music...

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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2008, 05:26:29 pm »
Viva Ms Da Binsi, viva Reyna de Boholandia! Maajong Pasko kaninjong tanan mga tagbalay!

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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2008, 05:30:47 pm »



Let's celebrate Christmas everyday of the year!

Right, MsDaBinz? 

O, the weather outside is freezin'
So keep that fire a burnin'
And you lay down by the hearth
Turn to bronze, MsDaBinz, Turn to bronze  ;D


(Remember the bronznification?)

 


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« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2008, 05:31:38 pm »
BTW, i never insisted what i believed...to each his own kay wa may maka luwas nato, kita raman...

Anyhow gahapon ning anhi na sad akong mga pampararam nga mga religious people from a certain church (di ko mo mention) kay nag hatag ug reading materials which i sometimes care to read kay educational man sad... anyhow, i told them nga sorry wa pa jud nako nabasa ang injung gibilin recently kay daghan kaajo kong naka linya nga basahonon and i have to read the, first then ang ilaha na nga material...Sus ning ingon man nang Merkana nga i think you should read the material first kay it is all about Jesus and it is Christmas time...so what i say to her, "So what if its christmas? Do you guys really believed that Jesus was born in December?" wa jud na sila naka tingug.

I wish di na sila mobalik kay to be honest, they sometimes annoyed me, kay i dont want anyone convince me of what they are believing kay i myself have my own brain and intellect and i know how to decide of things that makes me feel good.

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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2008, 05:32:12 pm »


Let's celebrate Christmas everyday of the year!

Right, MsDaBinz? 

O, the weather outside is freezin'
So keep that fire a burnin'
And you lay down by the hearth
Turn to bronze, MsDaBinz, Turn to bronze  ;D


(Remember the bronznification?)

 




hahhahaha Kiat man jud ni si GEC oi! hahahhaha

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« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2008, 05:33:42 pm »
Viva Ms Da Binsi, viva Reyna de Boholandia! Maajong Pasko kaninjong tanan mga tagbalay!


Alay ganahan ko sa akong rank karon dah!!!

Reyna de Boholandia!!!

i'm loving it!

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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2008, 05:34:43 pm »


hahhahaha Kiat man jud ni si GEC oi! hahahhaha


This thread should now be called: "The Da Binzi Bronznification: Secret Revealed"

;D





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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2008, 05:37:06 pm »
Ako jod nga gikutil ang akong utok aron mangitag insaktong description para nimo.

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« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2008, 05:37:36 pm »
bwaahhahahhahahhahahahhaha!

mashu-ang na jud ko ani!!!

asa na ang CODE? giilisan na sa bag-ong author nga si GEC Brown! hahahhaha

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