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« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2009, 10:46:34 AM »
This has been done Glace in some private schools, more particularly in the tertiary levels. Essential subjects are assigned to highly qualified teachers. I see the mounting problem here in our public schools. If my proposal on teachers selection should be implemented, then another big problem will arise. Plenty of our teachers will be dislocated. Kawawa sab.

Even when I am no longer connected with the academe, still my heart belongs to education. I initiated and conducted trainings and seminars in the company I am with to upgrade the level of quality of the engineers and help them sustain a career path in the company. Kay ang HRD sa companya wa man poy kalibutan sa technical fields puro lang naman sila sa behavioral science and psychology.

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« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2009, 10:57:13 AM »
kudos lay! by your own account, you're not just one of the Philippines best, you are the best man! wahhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooo!

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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2009, 11:16:39 AM »
Best man bai? Kaninong kasal? Lol

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« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2009, 11:37:49 AM »
pa libong libong pa jud ning ungoya ay. ngiga jud oi. yahoooo!

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« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2009, 11:47:14 AM »
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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2009, 11:59:20 AM »
pa humble effect pa jud glacier, nuh?

too much humility is too much. LOL

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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2009, 12:21:35 PM »
You are also one of the unsung heroes for this cause! Everyone of us has a share to contribute even in the simplest way possible. Let us not be dwelt with outright pessimism, because in every problem that we have there is always a right answer to come. As to when will it come, it all depends on how we devote our time to quash that problem off. Education really is a continuous process if we are going to explore the vast knowledge of the universe.

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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2009, 12:35:16 PM »
ok ra, calle, dako man diayng tawo ni bay layman. murag pareho nimo ni calle.

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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2009, 12:38:12 PM »
niwang ko, di ko dako.

clerk lagi tawon ko diri.

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« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2009, 12:46:03 PM »
Yes that's true Glace! I weigh more pounds than I stand with my feet. Bitaw, 175 lbs. ra ko and my waist line is 36". Sira na ang akong vital stats! LOL

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« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2009, 12:51:23 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2009, 12:52:58 PM »
You say it so. And I respect your right to express! LOL

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« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2009, 12:54:51 PM »
di man kaha ta badlungon sa TB ani...LOL

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« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2009, 12:57:02 PM »
I think hapit na! Just add one more year and we'll be out!

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« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2009, 03:38:57 PM »
Manong A Layman: I am quite impressed by your views.

Anyway, I have also been connected to the academe, and also had observations of my own.

For one, teachers can be all too sympathetic to students. Papasron na lang bisag lajo ra sa tinood ang efforts, performance and behavior. Does that help the student? Sometimes, one has to be 'cruel' to help another.

Another, as Manong A Layman has stated, there are teachers who are not really qualified for the position. How can they pass on the knowledge to the students when they are struggling on the course/subject themselves?

Third, magpakasayon na lang sad ang instructor ug basa sa text nga naa sa libro. Wala na'y further explanations... Students themselves can read. Why not do something more interactive? And do further research on the topic so there's more to share? I have been a student and it irks me that teachers just read what's on the book. And i sometimes wonder whether the teacher actually knows more than what the book says...

Fourth, teachers should be willing to help students who need their help... kung daghan galisud, conduct remedial classes, give extra assignments, conduct more learning activities.

Being a teacher is no easy task. They should also be provided with good benefits.

And I definitely agree to Manong A Layman that it is a matter of devotion to work.

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« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2009, 04:31:40 PM »
Thanks Ligiah for the nice and true complements. So we both have experienced in the academe anyway. In what particular level are you teaching? Tertiaty, secondary, elementary, or pre-school? My older brother is a head teacher of a public school in Bohol located in a remote Barangay of Guindulman. We shared the same interest of uplifting the level of literacy among us.

His problem then was the millenium curricula in grade school introduced by the late Raul Roco. We understood that the move of DECs with Roco at the helm was preparedness towards global competition. A noble idea! But what was disgusting then, was the apathy of the government to support the program by not providing computer units in public schools and train teachers for that purpose. My brother made a good move when he spent his month-long vacation here with me in Manila, instead of just waiting for the support to come from the government. He requested me to teach the basic computer operation and I granted his request without much ado. I even bougth him a book for that as his aid. He was able to learn the basic for one month and brought with him my personal computer set when he went back home. That's it! I could not measure the contentment he had when he told me that his school was the first one with a computer set among the public schools within the entire municipality. I just pray that in a simplest way, we did our share, and always will!

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« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2009, 06:43:41 PM »
This has been done Glace in some private schools, more particularly in the tertiary levels. Essential subjects are assigned to highly qualified teachers.

mao ni nahitabo sa amo school mr A.. ang mga 3rd yr ug 4th yr were handled by the best..

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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2009, 08:33:18 PM »
Good to hear your side Kiamoysan! At least you know what it will be when best teachers are handling essential subjects. Atenista ka ba? Ask lang ko.

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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2009, 08:34:24 PM »
Dili. :D wala ko nakaskul ug Manila.. cebu-tac lang..

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« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2009, 08:37:33 PM »
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« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2009, 10:06:25 PM »
ako manghud ra nakasulod dha.
evsu ko..:) nagtarongko iskwela (if tarong man gane) atong highschool days.. mas daghan ko nakat-unan.. college, i was not that interested sa ako course. haha!! slacker kaayu.

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« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2009, 10:13:59 PM »
EVSU, formerly VISCA located in Baybay, Leyte? At least you made your way and pursued your dreams.

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« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2009, 12:38:42 AM »
Thanks Ligiah for the nice and true complements. So we both have experienced in the academe anyway. In what particular level are you teaching? Tertiaty, secondary, elementary, or pre-school? My older brother is a head teacher of a public school in Bohol located in a remote Barangay of Guindulman. We shared the same interest of uplifting the level of literacy among us.

His problem then was the millenium curricula in grade school introduced by the late Raul Roco. We understood that the move of DECs with Roco at the helm was preparedness towards global competition. A noble idea! But what was disgusting then, was the apathy of the government to support the program by not providing computer units in public schools and train teachers for that purpose. My brother made a good move when he spent his month-long vacation here with me in Manila, instead of just waiting for the support to come from the government. He requested me to teach the basic computer operation and I granted his request without much ado. I even bougth him a book for that as his aid. He was able to learn the basic for one month and brought with him my personal computer set when he went back home. That's it! I could not measure the contentment he had when he told me that his school was the first one with a computer set among the public schools within the entire municipality. I just pray that in a simplest way, we did our share, and always will!

Manong A Layman... you're welcome. i taught in the tertiary level. Biological Sciences.

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« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2009, 01:48:09 AM »
ok ra, calle, dako man diayng tawo ni bay layman. murag pareho nimo ni calle.

ha unsa ka dak-a? 7 footer? 8 footer? ehhehehe

btaw saludo ko nmu Layman

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« Reply #65 on: February 06, 2009, 07:33:37 AM »
Hoi, naunsa naman noon ni! Mora naman noon kog si General nga gisaluduhan ni Bol-anon Ko. Anyways, thanks a lot for the compliment! Alright class, let us now go back to the topic we are discussing here, otherwise, we will be expelled by the principal administrator for not doing our assignments well. Are you agreeable to add one year in all Degree Courses in College? Taym sa ha? Naa ba poy degree and High School?  He he he...mora naman noon kog titser da!

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« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2009, 12:14:45 PM »
di ko agreeable ana, lay. kabalo naka ako rason...di na maoy solusyon.

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« Reply #67 on: February 06, 2009, 04:44:54 PM »
mao na jud ni karon.

A country that could not even decide what to do with its students, simple ang solusyon. experimentohan na lamang.

Bale gayud, og sa mga taga Panglao pa. Sugot pod ka Roy?

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« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2009, 11:03:22 AM »
Until this time , wala pay final ang DepEd nga dugangan ug one year ang college effective next school year 2009-10.

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« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2009, 11:48:49 AM »
Among the countries in the world, only Philippines has 10-year basic education curriculum, other countries have 12-year basic education curriculum.

There are so many problems in the education system of the Philippines right now which need to be be addressed by those people in authority aside from that increasing one year for all degree programs. As what I have observed, the problem is not lying in the higher education only but the biggest problem in education which affects the downward spiral of the Philippine economy lies heavily in our basic education system.

Most of the students entering college could hardly do basic algebraic operations which is supposed to be developed during high school years. I don't know if it has been changed but when I was teaching Mathematics in the Philippines, the following curriculum has been followed for high school Mathematics:

First Year: Elementary Algebra
Second Year: Intermediate Algebra
Third year: Geometry
Fourth Year: Advance Algebra and Basic Probability and Statistics

Well, as we can see, most of the mathematics courses in high school are dealing with ALGEBRA but aren't we surprised why students entering college could hardly do basic algebraic operations? There are students who could hardly determine the sum of x + x which is merely an addition of 1 banana + 1 banana = 2 bananas (x + x=2x). Here are some problems in the basic education system which I think must be resolved by the department of education:

1. There is much focus on the content of curriculum and less or zero focus on mastery learning.
    The Philippines is following fixed curriculum provided by those people in authority. It is mandated that the all topics within the curriculum should be tackled within the specified curriculum days. I could still remember my high school math teacher who told us, "This topic is supposed to be completed within 3 days but we have been discussing days for 4 days so let's end it up." when we asked for more practice exercises and more explanation about a certain topic in Mathematics which we could hardly understand. MASTERY LEARNING is not emphasized and it's a very sad fact for the students who are ought to learn life skills and not just go through the topics within the curriculum.

2. Teaching for test is still blatantly practised.
    Teaching is geared towards achieving high marks in the achievement test and not towards achieving the expected knowledge and skills. A teacher once told, "I have to teach all the topics specified in the curriculum because they will all come out in the National Achievement Test." Are our learners learning for the test? NO! NO! NO!

3. Stiff bureaucracy in the education system
    The curriculum is still pre-determined by those "EXPERTS?" in the Department of Education. It's about time for our education administrators to wake up the diversity of our students (different needs, different environment, different social and economic status, different learning styles  etc.) and therefor ONE ABSOLUTE CURRICULUM could not work for all. The EXPERTS that they call who designed the curriculum doesn't have any idea of what's happening in BARANGAY CANLUBAS. Do they know the learners in such area? If no, what made them design and implement a curriculum for learners there. I agree that DepEd should set goals and standard for education that would reach to all types of learners but I am against of a centralized curriculum. TEACHERS should be given the task to assess the learners' needs and design a curriculum based on their needs and DepEd's goals and standards (although this is very expensive because it would require rigid training for teachers on assessment and curriculum design).


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« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2009, 12:19:46 PM »
 Mang Jose , I agree with you.  Ang atong system of education is subject centered,
 dili child centered. Dapat inig graduate sa bata sa high adunay sa siyay specialized
 knowledge nga iyang mastered sama sa cooking, dressmaking,agribussines ,
 mechanics or any techinical skills  nga hilig nila.

 Ang atong systema sa education is always revising  the curriculum.

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« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2009, 10:53:00 PM »
Yes sir. As individuals wala tay mahimo but to start the change in ourselves.

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« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2009, 11:06:27 PM »
Yes sir. As individuals wala tay mahimo but to start the change in ourselves.

but education problems are systemic deficiencies. people in the system have figured out what's wrong with our education. yet they have no political will to resolve the issues. unfortunately, their apathy affects most of those who are down-under, people of lesser voice, people who can change yet too powerless to do it. 

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« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2009, 11:37:23 PM »
but education problems are systemic deficiencies. people in the system have figured out what's wrong with our education. yet they have no political will to resolve the issues. unfortunately, their apathy affects most of those who are down-under, people of lesser voice, people who can change yet too powerless to do it. 

In some international conferences here, it's pretty funny how big countries like USA, UK and Singapore admit the current problems in their education system and that they are doing their best to patch things up. However, the Philippines always boasts for having the best system of education and there's no problem within it. Even the education of our country is politically driven. There are people who become voiceless in the name of politics which they claim as national mandate.

Teaching is not a lucrative job and not an attractive course for the Filipino youths and for this, the government has to do something. It's a very big problem. We are losing good teachers and our teacher-training institutions are becoming inefficient.

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« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2009, 11:46:50 PM »
universities and some schools in big cities are i think not that bad. the problem can be felt more in the countrysides. and that's where most graduates in this country are from.

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« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2009, 11:49:01 PM »
but most teachers are from the countryside and not from the big cities because people in the big cities usually opt for business, medical or IT- related courses.

I am from countryside... From the town that amazes Boholanos as they ask, ASA MAN NA? :D :D

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« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2009, 12:04:31 AM »
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« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2009, 12:23:49 AM »
Danao? hahahahaha

People know Danao more than my place. At least, Boholanos know where is Danao because of Francisco Dagohoy and Danao is going national in terms of echo tourism. Danao is not new. People doesn't even know that my town is a town. Anyhow, I can;t blame them for my town was once a colonia of a popular scond-class municipality.

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« Reply #78 on: February 08, 2009, 01:07:22 AM »
People know Danao more than my place. At least, Boholanos know where is Danao because of Francisco Dagohoy and Danao is going national in terms of echo tourism. Danao is not new. People doesn't even know that my town is a town. Anyhow, I can;t blame them for my town was once a colonia of a popular scond-class municipality.

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« Reply #79 on: February 09, 2009, 09:24:08 AM »
I got this from a parent of a kid in a hinterland barangay sa atoa.

Ang among maestra Sir,
Martes na wa pa,
unja Hwebes pa, wa na.  ::)

Howd you expect an education other than standing by sa sulod sa quality ining graduate aning mga bataa nga under sa titser?


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