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« Reply #80 on: March 30, 2008, 01:48:38 PM »
My relatives live in the Philippines, in Bohol to be specific. I have an uncle who is the Postmaster for Valencia, uncles who work abroad as Engineers and give back to their relatives in the Philippines (Bohol, Pampanga), I have cousins who live in Bohol, and I have aunts in the government, and one aunt who is the Assistant Provincial Director of Bohol.

Talks with them in the phone and with my cousins and uncles have been about how the country is prospering, changes are happening in the Philippines. What you may claim to be regression is seen as progress and positive changes by others.

Additionally, so what if I am in the United States? Do I not have a say on my own beloved homeland? Was I not born in Bohol and raised in the Bisayan way of life? Do I not speak Bol-anon as you do? Do you consider me any less for being overseas and raised in the American Way of life?

Additionally, Marjun, my statistics are from economists in the Philippines and economic think tanks in the United States and abroad.


yup! you have wealthy relatives like you! how wud they understand the real score? statistics are only based on the incomes of the few rich businessmen. if you only have a chance to talk to the mountain and village people, they wud say diffirent statistics based on actual
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Sorry, but please don't generalize.

My relatives are not wealthy, my family comes from very humble beginnings. My father's dad did not even finish elementary school. My papa titing came from pintuyan island in southern leyte and hitched on a pumpboat when he was only 8 y/o to get away and make a living, it was his own hard work and his faith that led him to survive; and his wife was only a school teacher, and they had 7 children and all finished college. And my Papa Titing, my father's dad, died when my dad was only 21 y/o, leaving the entire family crippled. However, they all sacrificed, my lola worked overtime and family aided them so that they were all successful. My aunt, most especially, was helpful for her other brothers. My family is very humble, and it was not wealth that brought them to their current disposition, but through HARD and HONEST work.

My mother's side of the family. My mother's father and mother did not even go to college; my lolo ciano didn't even finish elementary school because he came from a poor family in barangay anas in valencia, in the bukid. He had 12 brothers and sisters, and as the eldest he worked, in the basak, as a boy helper; he went to Mindanao in his youth to help his family, as for my lola nating, she worked ans a business woman. And they were both able to send their children to college and finish; all of them. Not because of wealth, no, they were very poor. But through the grace of God, faith and hard work that my relatives were successful.

The same for us here in the 'states. There is not one day we forget of our humble beginnings.
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« Reply #81 on: March 30, 2008, 02:20:06 PM »

And I second your seconding dodong's motion, Mr John aka Ashton.

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« Reply #82 on: March 30, 2008, 02:24:24 PM »
OT: Its funny how the same Bishop Cruz is denying his own statement.

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« Reply #83 on: March 30, 2008, 02:28:21 PM »
^dong, he makes his own fire but he can't take the heat, IMO

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« Reply #84 on: March 30, 2008, 02:32:57 PM »
Kuyawa no? Na lingaw jud ko sa ang emotions sa kaning thread, kai ning show jud ang kristiano-ness sa ang mga pnoy. Naka point out gud ta diri sa ang faults sa bishop's statement, and ang personal anecdotes sa members diri is very humbling kaayo, especialamente ang historidad  nimo 'te sa drugstore sa imung lola, ang story pood sa pamilya ni 'te Ging. Luuy kaayo pero ma inspired pood ko lagi kai hard working man mo tanan, ang espirito sa tao lagi is defined by his actions and works. 'te, i agree with you jud on your statement about helping yourself. 110% agree with you.


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« Reply #85 on: March 30, 2008, 02:42:30 PM »
^Dong, I want you to know that I am proud of you. You have unbelievable composure and a level of maturity that belies your age.

The measure of a man is seen by how he reacts when things don't go his way. Others fall apart while others are strengthened by adversity.

If that Archbishop had an ounce of your tact, dodong...we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.


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« Reply #86 on: March 30, 2008, 02:43:44 PM »
Mao jud, Dong!  Wa untay mahitabo sa among kinabuhi if we didn't defy poverty then.  I didn't say we were unhappy then even if at times we didn't have food to eat but we wanted more. we wanted education. we wanted to be able to help our younger siblings get education too.  we wanted better life for our parents when they grow older. and there was no other way but to leave home and work.  of course, it was also because we had so much faith that God would us to our desire to have a change, a better change of the course of our lives.
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« Reply #87 on: March 30, 2008, 02:45:47 PM »
Tiya ang uban gusto lang ug hatagan kanunay! Dili na sila maning kamot!

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« Reply #88 on: March 30, 2008, 02:46:17 PM »
Haha, 'te I am nothing, I told you that. In the large scheme of things all of us are mud, dust, and to dust shall we return. All glory and praise goes to the Almighty Father, who strengthens all of us, and instills within us a sense of truth, kindness, and perserverance.

I mean this pood. Ikaw 'te, you are such a sharp individual, to the point and to the truth. I am always in awe of what you say kai tinuud man jud what you say. I mean this, ha.


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« Reply #89 on: March 30, 2008, 02:47:11 PM »

I agree, Thyl!  I particularly like this sentence:  The measure of a man is seen by how he reacts when things don't go his way.

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« Reply #90 on: March 30, 2008, 02:50:55 PM »

My beloved Ate Ging,

I never knew about your family history, hapit pood ta mo hilak to hear about it kai maka remember pood ko sa ang mama ug papa sa ahong ginikanan. Ning sacrifice sila tanana para maka succeed ilang anak, and maka realize pood ko the things my parents do for me and my siblings is a continuation of the sacrifices of my lolos and lolas. Ma humbled pood ta sa ang humble beginnings of your parents, and your relatives, 'te, kai no matter what, wa jud mo ning give up. You know that? You guys are the true heroes of the Philippines, kai naka succeed mo tanana despite the odds and the hardships.

Naa ang saying "a man is average, but a man who sustains hardships, storms, and yet continues forward, is more than a man. He is a godly man." Mao na ang definition sa ninyo, 'te. I really mean it. The hardships that i have, that my siblings have, and us 1st/2nd generation Fil-Ams is NOTHING compared to the hardships that you guys had to go through. And it makes us really think what hard work is, and was. Inspiring mo tanan, especialamente namo.

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« Reply #91 on: March 30, 2008, 02:51:54 PM »

Oi, naa ra diay ka!  Pastilan dear, makujapan man ta nimo ning kalit lang ka sulpot! hahahaha 

Mao jud, Maring, sige lang fret!  Kaluoy sa Ginoo, wa man intawon ga blame among family sa among kapobrihon sa una oi sa gobyerno oi!  Gakalisud mi kay way nahibaluan na trabaho si Daddy.  Naa mi mga fishermen na family members.  Kabalo sila na kon di sila managat, wa sila'y makuha unya usahay naay dimalas pero sa kanunay naay swerte.  Sa panahon na naay daghan kuha na bolinaw igo2x naay masobra ma gamos ug ma buwad busa sa panahon na way kuha, naay ginamos ug buwad makuot pasud-an!


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« Reply #92 on: March 30, 2008, 02:55:10 PM »
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« Reply #93 on: March 30, 2008, 02:57:22 PM »
Mao jud, Dong!  Wa untay mahitabo sa among kinabuhi if we didn't defy poverty then.  I didn't say we were unhappy then even if at times we didn't have food to eat but we wanted more. we wanted education. we wanted to be able to help our younger siblings get education too.  we wanted better life for our parents when they grow older. and there was no other way but to leave home and work.  of course, it was also because we had so much faith that God would us to our desire to have a change, a better change of the course of our lives.

My beloved Ate Ging,

I never knew about your family history, hapit pood ta mo hilak to hear about it kai maka remember pood ko sa ang mama ug papa sa ahong ginikanan. Ning sacrifice sila tanana para maka succeed ilang anak, and maka realize pood ko the things my parents do for me and my siblings is a continuation of the sacrifices of my lolos and lolas. Ma humbled pood ta sa ang humble beginnings of your parents, and your relatives, 'te, kai no matter what, wa jud mo ning give up. You know that? You guys are the true heroes of the Philippines, kai naka succeed mo tanana despite the odds and the hardships.

Naa ang saying "a man is average, but a man who sustains hardships, storms, and yet continues forward, is more than a man. He is a godly man." Mao na ang definition sa ninyo, 'te. I really mean it. The hardships that i have, that my siblings have, and us 1st/2nd generation Fil-Ams is NOTHING compared to the hardships that you guys had to go through. And it makes us really think what hard work is, and was. Inspiring mo tanan, especialamente namo.

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Thanks, Dong!  I am not trying to solicit sympathy because I don't need that. I am just stating the fact aron way magpataka mag ingon na we didn't know how it is to be poor.  We didn't talk the mountains alright but we talked the ocean to give us fish and we talked our little garden to give us better harvest of kamote.  heheheh

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« Reply #94 on: March 30, 2008, 02:59:30 PM »

My beloved Ate Ging,

I never knew about your family history, hapit pood ta mo hilak to hear about it kai maka remember pood ko sa ang mama ug papa sa ahong ginikanan. Ning sacrifice sila tanana para maka succeed ilang anak, and maka realize pood ko the things my parents do for me and my siblings is a continuation of the sacrifices of my lolos and lolas. Ma humbled pood ta sa ang humble beginnings of your parents, and your relatives, 'te, kai no matter what, wa jud mo ning give up. You know that? You guys are the true heroes of the Philippines, kai naka succeed mo tanana despite the odds and the hardships.

Naa ang saying "a man is average, but a man who sustains hardships, storms, and yet continues forward, is more than a man. He is a godly man." Mao na ang definition sa ninyo, 'te. I really mean it. The hardships that i have, that my siblings have, and us 1st/2nd generation Fil-Ams is NOTHING compared to the hardships that you guys had to go through. And it makes us really think what hard work is, and was. Inspiring mo tanan, especialamente namo.

God Bless You, all of You!
More Power to you guys!

Thanks, Dong!  I am not trying to solicit sympathy because I don't need that. I am just stating the fact aron way magpataka mag ingon na we didn't know how it is to be poor.  We didn't talk the mountains alright but we talked the ocean to give us fish and we talked our little garden to give us better harvest of kamote.  heheheh  And most of all, we had strong faith that God would help us because we were helping ourselves.


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« Reply #95 on: March 30, 2008, 02:59:39 PM »
^thanks dong, I don't always succeed, but I do try to be as truthful as I can.

Abraham Lincoln said, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".

And to borrow Bobby Flay's words, dong...

Just keep doing what you do. But ask yourself this, "Are you ready for a throwdown?"

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« Reply #96 on: March 30, 2008, 03:00:00 PM »
Tiya ang uban gusto lang ug hatagan kanunay! Dili na sila maning kamot!

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Oi, naa ra diay ka!  Pastilan dear, makujapan man ta nimo ning kalit lang ka sulpot! hahahaha 

Mao jud, Maring, sige lang fret!  Kaluoy sa Ginoo, wa man intawon ga blame among family sa among kapobrihon sa una oi sa gobyerno oi!  Gakalisud mi kay way nahibaluan na trabaho si Daddy.  Naa mi mga fishermen na family members.  Kabalo sila na kon di sila managat, wa sila'y makuha unya usahay naay dimalas pero sa kanunay naay swerte.  Sa panahon na naay daghan kuha na bolinaw igo2x naay masobra ma gamos ug ma buwad busa sa panahon na way kuha, naay ginamos ug buwad makuot pasud-an!
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Lingaw kaayo ang message nimo, 'te. I'm here in my biology cublicle working on papers and reading this thread, and as I read your story, I swear, I began to cry. Luuy kayo, pero something different sa imung pamilya kai naa man mo drive, ang ambisyon to be more that what was. That, 'te, is what defines a person. It defines you, your sisters, your brothers, and it ultimately defines your parents--in that they have such intelligent children--to use their own whits, their own GOD-GIVEN minds, arms, hands, to succeed.

Amen, I say to you, Amen!


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« Reply #97 on: March 30, 2008, 03:00:23 PM »

OT:  hehehe lucky charm jud ha!  Hangtud anus a diay mo diha, Maring?


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« Reply #98 on: March 30, 2008, 03:00:59 PM »
Speaking of kamote!

Hey that is you!

sori dear kay hubog2x na ko, i jsut want to change a little bit the air here  sa forum kay smog kaajo!

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« Reply #99 on: March 30, 2008, 03:03:18 PM »
LOL,

now I have a craving for kamote and cheese.

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