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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2010, 12:43:32 PM »
Bwahahaha.... repost man jud gikan sa FB. Di man lang kay sa Pinas ra ang abuso sa mga kapulisan or military. Even in so-called super power nations mas hadlok paman gani sila kay e salvage lang ka. Wa na dayoy balita. Mismo sa capital sa United States, one of the worst in the world. New Orleans is another.  ???

Lain pod, kung moundang tag gamag mga bata, gamay na lay magminyog mga Amerkano/Europeans nga mahilig ug Asian or Pinay, or kadtong mga Pinay nga gusto mag minyog mga Amerkano or any other nationalities. Gamay nay maka abroad ;D

Hmmmm, basin mao nay ulterior motives ni Clinton da... kay uwaganix ra ba pod to, bwahahaha!  ;D

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Well said, Father. In cases like the said video post, which is an example of abuse of authoritative power, this is not prejudiced only towards developing nations, but is a psychological delinquency that are seen in all facets of society and civilization, irrespective of cultural diversity as it is a humanistic phenomenon (albeit being a Psychopathology) . In fact, this is standard behavioral psychology theory/ psychiatric cognitive deviance.

In the field of human behavioral science/ neuroscience & psychology, this is seen in the Stanford Prison Experiment , which addressed the following questions (which became standardized in the field of psychology, psychotherapy, and included in the subsets of psychiatry):

What happens when you put good people in an evil place? Does humanity win over evil, or does evil triumph? These are some of the questions we posed in this dramatic simulation of prison life conducted in the summer of 1971 at Stanford University.

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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2010, 12:48:59 PM »
What a coincidence because last Thursday I was discussing with my partners, a white American and Hispanic from Ecuador, about this racial distribution in the United States starting the year 2040. According to that research, though am not sure if it is official, that white Americans will be starting to become a history in the US. That Hispanics, black Americans and Asians will become the dominant physical appearance of the people living here, because the whites stopped producing children. The current white people will become old and no new generations will replace them.

Based on this premise, maybe Clinton has some logical explanation at the back of his head. With the influx of inter-marriages happening now to Filipinos, time will come that the Philippines will be converted to different color... and the living brown people will be the minority if we stop making children.

Maybe 100 years or so. That what happened to New Zealand when they adopted "o" population growth way back then. NZ reached to a point, that they don't have enough productive population, even now it is roughly 50% in the labor force and the increase rate is still less than 2%.

There is a saying of the Philippine playboys: " Di bale maubos ang salapi nungka ang lahi."







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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2010, 12:59:09 PM »

There is a saying of the Philippine playboys: " Di bale maubos ang salapi nungka ang lahi."


Bwahahaha! Kung Binisay-on, unsa man? "Bahalag way sapi basta kanunay gahi???"  ;D ;D



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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2010, 12:59:56 PM »
What a coincidence because last Thursday I was discussing with my partners, a white American and Hispanic from Ecuador, about this racial distribution in the United States starting the year 2040. According to that research, though am not sure if it is official, that white Americans will be starting to become a history in the US. That Hispanics, black Americans and Asians will become the dominant physical appearance of the people living here, because the whites stopped producing children. The current white people will become old and no new generations will replace them.

Based on this premise, maybe Clinton has some logical explanation at the back of his head. With the influx of inter-marriages happening now to Filipinos, time will come that the Philippines will be converted to different color... and the living brown people will be the minority if we stop making children.

Maybe 100 years or so. That what happened to New Zealand when they adopted "o" population growth way back then. NZ reached to a point, that they don't have enough productive population, even now it is roughly 50% in the labor force and the increase rate is still less than 2%.

There is a saying of the Philippine playboys: " Di bale maubos ang salapi nungka ang lahi."







hehehe they say that by 2050, the minority will be the majority in the United States of America. This country will no longer be a 'white' nation.

Again, it only strengthens the already internationally accepted understanding that the United States is a multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-cultural nation state. Our racial demographic will be akin to that of Brazil, which is highly amalgamated nation-state.

In the United States, wolf, the minorities tend to have a higher birth rate , child per family, as compared to the white-american demographic.



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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2010, 01:04:01 PM »
What a coincidence because last Thursday I was discussing with my partners, a white American and Hispanic from Ecuador, about this racial distribution in the United States starting the year 2040. According to that research, though am not sure if it is official, that white Americans will be starting to become a history in the US. That Hispanics, black Americans and Asians will become the dominant physical appearance of the people living here, because the whites stopped producing children. The current white people will become old and no new generations will replace them.

Based on this premise, maybe Clinton has some logical explanation at the back of his head. With the influx of inter-marriages happening now to Filipinos, time will come that the Philippines will be converted to different color... and the living brown people will be the minority if we stop making children.

Maybe 100 years or so. That what happened to New Zealand when they adopted "o" population growth way back then. NZ reached to a point, that they don't have enough productive population, even now it is roughly 50% in the labor force and the increase rate is still less than 2%.

There is a saying of the Philippine playboys: " Di bale maubos ang salapi nungka ang lahi."







Having a falling population is also quite counter-intuitive for highly socialized states. Take for example: Germany and Spain.

The two countries are highly socialized, yet both countries have a falling (rapidly) population; considering the majority of the population are adult or are of the geriatric (meaning, will soon die off), this is negated with the offset of having a low birth rate. This translates in a reduced seeding process (the generation that will replace the one dying off will be limited in number) and thus will lead to a reduction of productivity, and thus, in turn affect their socialized system of government.

Reasons: financial feasibility ramifications.

Explanation: With reduced workers, reduced tax payment, social programs will be minimized.

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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2010, 01:06:42 PM »
hehehe they say that by 2050, the minority will be the majority in the United States of America. This country will no longer be a 'white' nation.

Again, it only strengthens the already internationally accepted understanding that the United States is a multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-cultural nation state. Our racial demographic will be akin to that of Brazil, which is highly amalgamated nation-state.

In the United States, wolf, the minorities tend to have a higher birth rate , child per family, as compared to the white-american demographic.


So true. In our parish it used to be crowded with white people, now I am seeing black and hispanics. To add, I told the white American, blame that on your white American spouses that bitches about having kids LOL!

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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2010, 01:08:28 PM »
lol! a white woman (who i used to date) once told me that she finds asian women annoying. When asked why , she lamented:

"because you (referring to me) seem to have a racial preference for asian women! that and the fact that asian women are stealing white american men!" i could not help from laughing. :P



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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2010, 01:14:27 PM »
lol! a white woman (who i used to date) once told me that she finds asian women annoying. When asked why , she lamented:

"because you (referring to me) seem to have a racial preference for asian women! that and the fact that asian women are stealing white american men!" i could not help from laughing. :P


Hahahhaha...tell them that is economics, "demand vs supplies", and well of course, the quality of the products dictate the demands.

But, listen to this, a Pinoy once told me that he is angry of foreigners because they are stealing the Filipinas. Magpares na lang kaha na sila, para adunay balance of trade.



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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2010, 01:19:25 PM »
puahaha, i love that coined term, "balance of trade"!

I have a friend , a very beautiful curvy white woman (she has a very curvy body) and was telling me that the man who she liked was taken; taken by a small sized asian woman. She asked me if there was anything wrong with her. Luoy pood intawn. Guapa ug sexy raba ijang lawas...

ahayyyy~  :P

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« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2010, 01:32:08 PM »
puahaha, i love that coined term, "balance of trade"!

I have a friend , a very beautiful curvy white woman (she has a very curvy body) and was telling me that the man who she liked was taken; taken by a small sized asian woman. She asked me if there was anything wrong with her. Luoy pood intawn. Guapa ug sexy raba ijang lawas...

ahayyyy~  :P
Well, the winner takes it all. I lost my husband to another Pinay that he met online. Now, he is in the Ph and joined her. He left everything because of love (maybe lust), you can't beat that part. But, if he comes back to me and said:"You cant find one like me." Jesus, what I did to deserve a double jeopardy.

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« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2010, 01:38:00 PM »
Well, wolf, let's just say that it is his loss. You deserve better than that, anyway. Truly.

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« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2010, 01:39:24 PM »
Well, wolf, let's just say that it is his loss. You deserve better than that, anyway. Truly.
Of course, things happen for reasons. I always believe that.

OT: am going to bed now, GN Lorenz.

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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2010, 01:40:38 PM »
I have a friend , a very beautiful curvy white woman (she has a very curvy body) and was telling me that the man who she liked was taken; taken by a small sized asian woman. She asked me if there was anything wrong with her. Luoy pood intawn. Guapa ug sexy raba ijang lawas...

ahayyyy~  :P

Mora man ug dakong pagmahay ni Enz, while looking at that "curvy" white body, bwahahahaha! Or is it just a "deep sigh?"  ;D



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« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2010, 01:46:27 PM »
ha ha ha, guapa man gud , Father. Tanaw lang pero wa ning hilabot.

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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2010, 01:46:57 PM »
Of course, things happen for reasons. I always believe that.

OT: am going to bed now, GN Lorenz.

Good Night, Wolf. Sweat dreams.

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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2010, 01:47:49 PM »
ha ha ha, guapa man gud , Father. Tanaw lang pero wa ning hilabot.

You sound like Bill Clinton!!!  ;D (Joke only)  ;D


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« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2010, 01:53:34 PM »
LOL!!!

I repeat, "i did not have any sexual relations with that woman..."

;)  :P

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« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2010, 01:56:27 PM »
LOL!!!

I repeat, "i did not have any sexual relations with that woman..."

;)  :P

Now you really sounded like Bill Clinton, "I have no recollection!!!"  ;D


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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2010, 01:57:24 PM »
lol, ha ha ha. Father, laughing and coffee is such a bad combination. :P

I remember one time when i was watching the clip of clinton denying that, and then the subsequent admission "i did have sexual relations..." oh man. patay ang limod.

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« Reply #60 on: November 15, 2010, 02:25:33 PM »
Well, the winner takes it all. I lost my husband to another Pinay that he met online. Now, he is in the Ph and joined her. He left everything because of love (maybe lust), you can't beat that part. But, if he comes back to me and said:"You cant find one like me." Jesus, what I did to deserve a double jeopardy.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...... super kalingaw....  ;D  ;D  ;D

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« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2010, 03:25:54 PM »
The point of the matter: population is not a hindrance, but rather a source of strength.

India. By the time India gained independence from Britain, her population was at 350 million. Since then, her population has more than tripled. And is one of the largest economies of the world, and rising. The same goes for China, who since the Great Cultural Revolution, the population has risen to some 1.3 Billion and rising (tho minimized due to the one-child policy).

China and India is considered part of the third world, however, rising through heavy modernization. The Philippines falls in this same category. This century , the 21st century, is supposedly orient the world order towards the Asian-Pacific Axis.
China had a one child policy since the time of Deng Xiaoping and they prefer a male child ,most of them when they got pregnant with thier 3 child they go to abortion clinic.That's reality ..So before we fall in the same category as China one child policy might as well start responsible family planning.. ;D ;DChina has proclaimed that it will continue its one child policy, which limits couples to having one child, through the 2006-2010 five year planning period.

China's one child policy was established by Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping in 1979 to limit communist China's population growth. Although designated a "temporary measure," it continues a quarter-century after its establishment. The policy limits couples to one child. Fines, pressures to abort a pregnancy, and even forced sterilization accompanied second or subsequent pregnancies.

It is not an all-encompassing rule because it has always been restricted to ethnic Han Chinese living in urban areas. Citizens living in rural areas and minorities living in China are not subject to the law. However, the rule has been estimated to have reduced population growth in the country of 1.3 billion by as much as 300 million people over its first twenty years.

This rule has caused a disdain for female infants; abortion, neglect, abandonment, and even infanticide have been known to occur to female infants. The result of such Draconian family planning has resulted in the disparate ratio of 114 males for every 100 females among babies from birth through children four years of age. Normally, 105 males are naturally born for every 100 females.

Recent Effects of the One Child Law
Now that millions of sibling-less people in China are now young adults in or nearing their child-bearing years, a special provision allows millions of couples to have two children legally. If a couple is composed of two people without siblings, then they may have two children of their own, thus preventing too dramatic of a population decrease.

Although IUDs, sterilization, and abortion (legal in China) are China's most popular forms of birth control, over the past few years, China has provided more education and support for alternative birth control methods.

Statistically, China's total fertility rate (the number of births per woman) is 1.7, much higher than slowly-declining Germany at 1.4 but lower than the U.S. at 2.1 (2.1 births per woman is the replacement level of fertility, representing a stable population, exclusive of migration).

In 2007, there were reports that in the southwestern Guangxi Autonomous Region of China, officials were forcing pregnant women without permission to give birth to have abortions and levying steep fines on families violating the law. As a result, riots broke out and some may have been killed, including population control officials.

The Future of China's One Child Law
China's eleventh Five-Year Plan Period is from 2006 to 2010. Minister of the State Commission of Population and Family Planning Zhang Weiqing confirmed in early 2006 that China's one child policy is consistent with the nation's plan for population growth and would continue indefinitely. He denied rumors that the policy become less stringent to permit a second child.


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« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2010, 03:44:55 PM »
I have a mixed feelings about population control. Abortion is a great No..No to me, but I am leaning on the positive side of contraceptives.

Back to China, according to google, its population is 20% world's total. That means 1 every 5 people is a resident of China. Whewwww!!!!

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« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2010, 04:51:07 PM »
I have a mixed feelings about population control. Abortion is a great No..No to me, but I am leaning on the positive side of contraceptives.

Back to China, according to google, its population is 20% world's total. That means 1 every 5 people is a resident of China. Whewwww!!!!

Basta naay tatak "Made in China" sa lubot, Chinese na, bwahahahaha!!!  ;D


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« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2010, 09:04:37 PM »
Basta naay tatak "Made in China" sa lubot, Chinese na, bwahahahaha!!!  ;D

Korek gyud, maskin gani bairan naay tatak. Wala lang ko kakita og lugod nga made in China. Pastilan gikan baya na sa Bohol.

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« Reply #65 on: November 15, 2010, 09:24:25 PM »
I have a mixed feelings about population control. Abortion is a great No..No to me, but I am leaning on the positive side of contraceptives.

Back to China, according to google, its population is 20% world's total. That means 1 every 5 people is a resident of China. Whewwww!!!!

The Chinese are an example of human growth throughout the histories. Its rather interesting to see that China has grown to such epic numbers (population ranges) , but then again the land of China has existed for more than 5000 years (older than ancient egypt or even israel). The Chinese have been agrarian farmers throughout most of their vast history, fishing the waters has been almost instinct for them, as well as development of land and the basins around the Yangtze.

The former Chinese leader, Mao Zedong, once said that the strength and treasure of China are not its non renewable/ renewable natural resources , but its people. It is the people of China that produce and make up the state, and it has always been the people to give the mandate of heaven (confucian political thought) to the emperor and or similar governmental unit (in this case, the communist government).

The implementation of the one-child policy will probably be done away with after some generations considering that the Chinese population will begin to fall when the gerontology will die off (a considerable part of the Chinese population are those >60 of age). It will be a necessity that China does away with the one child policy.

In Chinese culture (and i speak because my grandmother was Chinese, and my own mother raised in a Chinese-Filipino household) glorifies children and motherhood as well as fatherhood; especially the male child (for practical and cultural reasons; to carry the family name {Tan being the family surname of my maternal grandmother ; my Lola's line hails from Guangzhou Province, CHINA..}). It is looked kindly by relatives and family friends when a mother and father bear children, especially many children. Children and the abundance thereof represents the wealth and health of a nation, in Chinese culture. In regards to the Philippines, our strong and healthy birth rates (seeding processes) represents the fertility and the longevity of the Filipino and the Filipina. We have always been a prodigious and abundant race.

When the Spaniards arrived, our population was no more than 500,000 as documented by the Augustinian and Dominican missionary priests. By the end of the 19th century, the population had skyrocketed to some 8 million.

In my personal point of view, the racial homogeneity of the Filipino and our healthy birth index represents our growing nation. As compared to many countries in the west (which experience a negative birth index; meaning more people are dyng than being born), the Philippines is the antithesis. We produce 2 million Filipino babies a year, which soon will take up their role in society when they reach of age. I don't see this as a hindrance, but come in accordance with Mao Zedong's thought: "The people are the natural resources of the nation. The People are the future."

The Healthy Birth Rate of the Philippines manifests the longevity and the strength of the Filipino Race. We , unlike many nations, will survive the tests of time, and only through genetic processes can the population of a nation survive climactic events. In biological processes, the more population you have, the greater competitive variance, the higher , more likely for a said species to survive an event.

Life, throughout its forms in biology and in life science will want to procreate. Will want to multiply. The very act of trying to 'limit' a population and actively killing population is in itself unnatural and self-defeating.


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« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2010, 01:27:19 AM »
Bwahahaha.... repost man jud gikan sa FB. Di man lang kay sa Pinas ra ang abuso sa mga kapulisan or military. Even in so-called super power nations mas hadlok paman gani sila kay e salvage lang ka. Wa na dayoy balita. Mismo sa capital sa United States, one of the worst in the world. New Orleans is another.  ???

Lain pod, kung moundang tag gamag mga bata, gamay na lay magminyog mga Amerkano/Europeans nga mahilig ug Asian or Pinay, or kadtong mga Pinay nga gusto mag minyog mga Amerkano or any other nationalities. Gamay nay maka abroad ;D

Hmmmm, basin mao nay ulterior motives ni Clinton da... kay uwaganix ra ba pod to, bwahahaha!  ;D

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« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2010, 02:34:25 AM »
The point that Fr. Roel is trying to get across is that torture and abuses of power are never okay; the said police abuse (clearly its in the Philippines) is not just a problem in the Philippines (and the country being catholic has no bearing or no correlation to this whatsoever) but is a problem in the world and is a trans-humanist phenomenon when there is a lacking in checking of powers. The fact that abuses of power occurs in modernized and supposed legally friendly nations such as the United States indicates that the underlying problem is not primarily a politcal, or on site defciency, but rather is more so an individual psychopathology. This was standardized by the 1971 Stanford Prison Project. Again, this is psychological deficiency on the one peforming the act, not the religious environmental factor upon which the subset took place; the latter never was an issue.
Father Roel merely reiterates the fact that this happened in the Philippnes , it does not put weight on any prejudice towards Filipino police brutality; considering police brutality is quite common even in the United States, Turkey, Russia,China and throughout the world. That was the basis and point of his remark, which I found to be rather honest and didactic.


 

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« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2010, 02:35:32 AM »

Chic lahi ni nga sitwasyon sa water boarding kay ang ilaha ila man pa tug-anon biwan way itug-an, kompara ani nga pahalokon in public pa jud! that was nasty...ug ok diay sa super power countries mo okay ra diay ta nga catholic nation? i dont think so.

MDB, I didn't or never said it's OK. All I'm saying is abuses abound, it doesn't matter where it's happening, ma Pilipinas, ma Iraq or America. What you posted here is not an isolated case, as you try to portray or explain here. That's too simplistic. Tungod ba diay kay pobre ta maong "kita ray" nagbuhat ana? I don't think so. Some people (in every place) do crime and nasty stuff kay naa na silay problema o topak sa ulo hehehe   ???

They have some in Wisconsin, too!!! Maong pagbantay sige!!!  ;D





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« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2010, 02:36:55 AM »
MDB, I didn't or never said it's OK. All I'm saying is abuses abound, it doesn't matter where it's happening, ma Pilipinas, ma Iraq or America. What you posted here is not an isolated case, as you try to portray or explain here. That's too simplistic. Tungod ba diay kay pobre ta maong "kita ray" nagbuhat ana? I don't think so. Some people (in every place) do crime and nasty stuff kay naa na silay problema o topak sa ulo hehehe  ;D



You never did, Father Roel. I think Dabinsi over-analyzed something that was not there.

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« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2010, 02:39:47 AM »
I might remind some individuals here that the police department in Michigan (particularly in around Detroit) are known for their racial descrimination and police brutality towards african-americans and even some minorities; again, there is a rather high amount of crime and police-related crime in that state.

So again, the United States (yes, quite shocking) is not itself free of this phenomenon. :)

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« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2010, 02:57:25 AM »
You never did, Father Roel. I think Dabinsi over-analyzed something that was not there. :)

Of course not. Every person has different way of seeing things. Lahi sad panan-aw ni MDB, lahi sad akoa. Crimes do not change my outlook on what I kept posting here that "babies are no mistake!" Remote kaayo ang connection even if ultimately poverty, or over-crowdedness, is causing some of society's biggest problems. Individualism, indifference, selfishness, false pride, competition, ETC... these are some of the biggest factors nganong ang pobre sa Pilipinas pobre lang gehapon. Not to mention graft and corruption among our supposedly public servants. And that goes to our Church people too! No one's immunue to these, give or take :(

My father used to fuss at us (everytime he noticed that we don't seem to care about people), "Inyo ramang mga lubot inyong gipakaon." Kamoy na lay sabot kung unsa na...

I salute those who always help or extend a hand/help to people, especially the poor and stangers!  ;)

Naa man joy di katog ani ba kay di moundang si ChicogoN ug post ani nga thread, bwahahaha!!!  ;D

Diskusyon ra bitaw ni so way tihik-tihik. Ang uban nihilom na lang intawon for the sake of TB friendship. I still love my friend MDB (My Paparazzi). You're all still welcome to visit my place... and/or witness Mardi Gras as my guests (kana if you're planning to).  ;D

Addendum: Oooops, soweee MDB, you're not my Paparazzi; you're my MAMARAZZI!!!  ;)



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« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2010, 03:26:33 AM »
 sorry Pads but im not yet covince that making more and more babies are good for the country.Too much of everything is not good.I still favor responsible family planning.

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« Reply #73 on: November 16, 2010, 04:24:09 AM »
Sorry Pads but im not yet covince that making more and more babies are good for the country.Too much of everything is not good.I still favor responsible family planning.

I agree with you totally. All I'm saying is "babies are not mistakes." That's why the Church promotes family planning but only the natural way only (while some insist on other ways besides natural). Ang akong ge disagree-han is not family planning, but when SOME say "unwanted children" or over-population is the main cause of poverty (as insinuated by their explaination)... which is totally untrue. That's why I said, there are many other factors too... like graft and corruption, imbalance of world's wealth, competition, or plain indifference. Depende raman na sa nag tan-aw or panan-aw sa tawo. If you think you only live for yourself or for your family, that's what most people tend to do... they work their butts off for themselves and their family's future only.  Because normally mao man jud na. Sa tinuod lang, it's not only the Boholanos who are known for ija-ija aho-aho... it's the whole world, you and I included. Kinsa man goy maningkamot para sa laing tawo (which is absurd to the Jews and a scandal to the Greeks ;D ). Pero mao nay outlook, supposedly, sa mga ni profess the Christian faith... while many ask, "Am I my brothers' keepers?" Mao nay dilemna sa mga ni claim ug Christian faith... kutob ra jod sa ngan (nominal Christians), while the one whom they professed to follow (maski Bible pay pasultion) says otherwise.

As far as Clinton's statement is concerned, I don't really know (none of us know) exactly what he said in totality. Iyahay raman tag comment based on the thread title, sa tinuod lang. That's where I believe the gap in our understanding, or replies, lies. Mao ra god na, it's simply a discussion. For once Clinton said something right... as he, like most Democrats politicians espouse "abortion" or "pro-choice."

Like I said in my previous posting, I said my piece and you said yours. And I respect that. And yet I have to stand firm in my belief (as you do yours). Ug kung adunay magpadayon ug hatag sa ilang pamalandong - which agrees or disagrees with mine - aw, that's what this thread or TB is all about.  It's a battle of the mind... and learning experience at the same time.  ;)

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« Reply #74 on: November 16, 2010, 04:33:14 AM »
Oh sigi agree na ko nimo nga maghimo ug daghan bata pero maka himo pa ba kaha ko ug bata nga edaran naman ko.hehehe maayo cguro testingan da...hehehe..

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« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2010, 04:36:31 AM »
Oh sigi agree na ko nimo nga maghimo ug daghan bata pero maka himo pa ba kaha ko ug bata nga edaran naman ko.hehehe maayo cguro testingan da...hehehe..

Mao nay giingon, "That's the spirit! That's the attitude!"  ;)

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« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2010, 04:46:39 AM »
Oh sigi agree na ko nimo nga maghimo ug daghan bata pero maka himo pa ba kaha ko ug bata nga edaran naman ko.hehehe maayo cguro testingan da...hehehe..
Ayaw na paghimo kay daghan pa baya nagplano maghimo iadto nalang na sa uban hahahah kay daghan pud nangandoy magkababy pero wa gihapon grasyahi. Labon tuay mga tawo nga di na unta dapat manganak kay way ibuhi segi pud ug palami. Di ba wa nay lami man siguro magsex ug ang imong bana or asawa nanimahong anuos,nagkagidlay,naay mga anak nanghilak kay gigutom pero bilib ko aning mga klase sa tawo nga bisan sa kalisod mga uwagon gihapon. Ug akoy ma presidente akong pangprisohon ang mga uwagon sa atua nga laki labi na daghan anak kay ug di ni nato ni hatagan action magsegi pa ni sila ug breed murag ok ok hahahah. Usa ra buhian ning mga uwagon ug mohupas na ilang uwag hahahah.


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Re: More Babies Good for the Philippines, says Bill Clinton
« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2010, 05:12:22 AM »
Usa ka pari taga Loon ni istorya nako a while back, true story daw ni nahitabo sa Sandingan Island, Loon. Ang bana (mangingisda) nihangyo sa iya Misis mag eng-eng anang gabhiona kay way laing lingaw sa isla. Wa mosugot si Misis kay basin ug mabuntis, kay daghan na raba kuno silag anak. Maong nag wild nuon si Mister, gipang labay mga plato ug tasang aluminum... saba kaayo!

Niingon si Misis, "Ajaw'g saba Ping kay mauwaw tas mga silingan. Nangatog na baya sila, basin momata."

Insead nga mohilom, ingon si Mister, "Aaah mauwaw diay ka ha?" Nisamot nuon pag wild si Mister... handtod nga nisugot na lang si Misis aron lang mohilom.

To makie the long story short, naka dama si Mister.

Paghuman daw sa title bout ni Pacquiao ug Margarito, pina tambo dayon sa Mister sa bintana (kanang bintana nga tukoran bitaw ug kahoy), dayon dagkot sigarilyo. (Unya ang mga tawo diay kay nag-atang pod sa gawas, naminaw sa lagubo), dayon ingon samtang nibuhot sa yosi:

"Mao ni kinabuhi, hayahay!"  ;D

Suheto man jod kas Panggangan, 'quel... di lalim kinabuhi sa mga tawo didto no, labi na mga mangingisda nga way laing lingaw. Hehehehe  ;D



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« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2010, 07:02:14 AM »
lol, as i sit down in my apartment and brew a nice cup of Folgers coffee , i must admit, Fr. Roel, that i admire how your display your points and do it so subtly and respectfully.

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« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2010, 08:39:11 AM »
Tumpak kaayo imong sugilanon Dre sa akong point hehehe.Tinuod kaayo na. Kining bana nga di gustuan sa asawa manuyo wa hunahunaa nga madugangan napud ang pakan on. Ka observe ko ani dili sa among isla kundi sa small island sa surigao diin sa nag college pa ko segi ko bisita. Makakita ka ug gamay kaayo nga balay gubaon kaayo,ang mga anak uban naghubo na kay walay sinina unya ang asawa nagkagidlay pero ang bana pahayahay rag panabako ug panigarilyo ug malooy ka mag sud ong maglagot. Mao makaingon jud ko nga ug ako ang naay gahum kining klase sa bana akong pakuhaan ug lagay hahahah kay wa gamita ang utok ang uwag nuon.



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