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« on: May 16, 2019, 01:58:13 PM »
The US military is sending a carrier strike group, a bomber task force, fighter jets, an amphibious landing ship, and a surface-to-air missile battery to the Middle East as a show of force to Iran. There is a ton of firepower heading that way.

The USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group, which consists of the carrier and its powerful carrier air wing, as well as one cruiser and four destroyers, began moving into the region with an unspecified number of B-52 Stratofortress heavy long-range bombers earlier this week.

US Air Forces Central Command announced Thursday that F-15C Eagle fighter jets were repositioned within the theater to "defend US forces and interests in the region." On Friday, the Pentagon announced that the USS Arlington, an amphibious landing ship, and a Patriot surface-to-air missile battery are on their way.

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 01:59:09 PM »

Aircraft carrier: USS Abraham Lincoln

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2019, 01:59:56 PM »

Carrier air wing: fighters, electronic-attack aircraft, early-warning aircraft, and rotary aircraft

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2019, 02:00:38 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2019, 02:01:20 PM »

4 destroyers: USS Bainbridge, USS Gonzalez, USS Mason, and USS Nitze

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2019, 02:02:04 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2019, 02:03:37 PM »

Amphibious Landing Ship: USS Arlington

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2019, 02:04:25 PM »

Air-and-Missile Defense: Patriot battery

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2019, 02:05:31 PM »

The Alvaro de Bazan-class Spanish navy frigate ESPS Mendez Nuez (F 104) pulls into Naval Station Norfolk prior to deployment with the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group.

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2019, 02:06:29 PM »
Spain has decided that it doesn't want its frigate sailing with the USS Abraham Lincoln into the Persian Gulf to challenge Iran.
The Spanish defense ministry announced Tuesday that the new mission is inconsistent with the agreement on joint operations signed by the US and Spain.
The Spanish warship will rejoin the carrier strike group once its deterrence mission concludes and it returns to regularly-scheduled operations.

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2019, 02:07:53 PM »
The US military is exploring a plan to deploy 120,000 troops to the Middle East as tensions with Iran intensify

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2019, 11:29:20 PM »

US soldiers conduct breaching operations in a mock-urban environment.

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2019, 11:30:28 PM »
The US military briefed President Donald Trump's national-security aides on a revamped plan that could result in the deployment of up to 120,000 troops to the Middle East, according to national-security officials cited in a New York Times report published Monday.

The reported plan calls for the deployment of troops in the event that Iran either attacks US forces or ramps up its nuclear-weapons program, several unnamed US officials told The Times.

The plan does not indicate whether US troops would invade Iran, the newspaper said. The number of troops deployed to the Middle East would be close to the roughly 130,600 service members deployed to Iraq in 2003.

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2019, 11:32:22 PM »

An Iranian flag next to a ground-to-ground Sajil missile at an undisclosed location in Iran in 2008.

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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2019, 11:34:17 PM »
Pictures showing Iranian paramilitary forces loading missiles onto boats are behind a recent sharp escalation in tensions between the US and Iran, The New York Times reported Thursday.

The May 3 overhead images showed fully assembled missiles being loaded onto boats in the Persian Gulf, three officials told The Times, raising concerns that they could be used by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps to target US Navy vessels.

Other intelligence reportedly hints at threats to commercial shipping vessels and to US troops in Iraq from Tehran-backed militias.

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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2019, 09:34:32 PM »
Iran's top general tells Iraqi militias to prep for 'proxy war' amid US-Iran tensions

A top Iranian general has told Iran-backed militias in Iraq to “prepare for proxy war” in the wake of heightened tensions between Iran and the U.S., which accused the militias of moving missiles toward American forces.

Qassem Soleimani, a commander of Iran’s extraterritorial military operations Quds Force, called for a meeting with the militias three weeks ago, but the exact timing of the gathering remains unclear, the Guardian reported Thursday.

“It wasn’t a call to arms, but it wasn’t far off,” a senior intelligence source told the newspaper.
The meeting likely played a role in the Trump administration’s decision this week to pull all non-essential government staff from Iraq. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo warned Iraqi officials that Iran-backed militias have moved their missiles near to the bases housing Americans.

Other countries soon followed the threat assessment of the U.S., with Britain raising threat levels for its troops in Iraq on Thursday. Both Germany and the Netherlands suspended a training mission in Iraq.


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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2019, 09:35:47 PM »
But intelligence collected by the U.S. government appears to also suggest that both Iran and the U.S. may have misread each other as being offensive rather than defensive, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Iran apparently thought the U.S. was planning an attack on Iran, which prompted the regime to prepare for counterstrikes.

MIKE POMPEO SAID IRAN-BACKED MILITIAS MOVED ROCKETS NEAR AMERICAN BASES IN IRAQ

At the same time, some within the Trump administration say that the same intelligence also suggests that Iran was planning to strike first. Such intelligence may have formed the basis of Pompeo’s claim during his meeting with the Iraqi top brass.

Iran has recently threatened to pull out of the nuclear deal and resume higher uranium enrichment if no new deal is put in place, while Pompeo told the Iraqi top brass that U.S. intelligence showed Iran-backed militias moved missiles near bases housing American forces.

Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Zarif, on Thursday deemed new sanctions imposed by the Trump administration as “unacceptable” but noted that the country is committed to the nuclear deal.

“We believe that escalation by the United States is unacceptable and uncalled for. We have exercised maximum restraints,” he said during a visit to Japan.

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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2019, 12:21:28 PM »
pastila ug mag gera. tapos ang maligayang araw. kay hayahay na man pag ajo ang pagka butang dinhi sa states. AYAW INTAWON

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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2019, 04:10:51 AM »
John Bolton, President Donald Trump's national security adviser, announced on Sunday that the US would send the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier and its associated strike group to the waters near Iran to "send a message" and respond to vague threats.

But the US will be sending the powerful carrier to a job it's arguably ill-suited for, putting thousands of sailors at a major military disadvantage. And if a conflict were to arise, the sinking of a US aircraft carrier would be in Iran's sights.

Though the carrier's deployment to Iran's nearby waters may have been planned long ago, Bolton has been clear that the ship's return to the region marks a response to "a number of troubling and escalatory incident and warnings" from Iran.

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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2019, 04:12:57 AM »
While Bolton did not get into specifics, a report from Axios said Israel passed the US "information on an alleged Iranian plot to attack" US forces or interests in the region.

The Wall Street Journal cited US officials as saying new intelligence "showed that Iran drew up plans to target U.S. forces in Iraq and possibly Syria, to orchestrate attacks in the Bab el-Mandeb strait near Yemen through proxies and in the Persian Gulf with its own armed drones."

US aircraft carrier strike groups represent the highest order of naval power ever put to sea, but they're not the right tool for every job.

Caitlin Talmadge, an associate professor of security studies, said on Twitter that US carriers are "designed for operations on the open ocean."

As a floating air base with guided-missile destroyers and cruisers sailing nearby for antimissile defenses from land and sea, the carriers are best off when moving around far from the range of missiles fired from the shore.

In the shallow brown waters of the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow pass through which about one-fifth of the world's oil passes through, Iran's outdated submarines and missiles see a vastly uneven playing ground leveled out.

"Ideally, a Nimitz-class carrier would operate within comfortable range of its targets (based on the range of its air wing) but at sufficient stand-off distance to minimize the risk of enemy threats," Omar Lamrani, a senior military analyst at the geopolitical consulting firm Stratfor, told Business Insider. "This varies based on operating environment but is usually between 300 to 400 nautical miles."

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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2019, 04:14:11 AM »

Iranian military personnel participate in the Velayat-90 war game near the Strait of Hormuz.

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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2019, 04:17:35 AM »

Gunner’s Mate 2nd Class Levi Horn observes as Operations Specialist 3rd Class Monica Ruiz fires a 50-caliber machine gun during a live-fire qualification aboard amphibious assault ship USS Boxer.US Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Brian Caracci

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2019, 04:25:12 AM »
Iran harassed and humiliated the US Navy under Obama, pero karon nga president na si Trump, medyo mi kalma ang Iran, hadlok sila ni Trump. mao nga delikado jud ug mahimo ning gera, mao ni pabilo sa WW3. wa na tay kadaganan, way katagoan. Kay nuclear warhead missiles na ang mang lopad, mas deadly pa ni sa atomic bomb

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2019, 04:27:13 AM »
ang atong mahimo, mag ampo lang kanunay nga dili mahitabo ang WW3

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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2019, 04:28:55 AM »
Iran's navy made a point of harassing and humiliating the US Navy in 2016 after then-President Barack Obama had sealed the Iran deal, but since August 2017, the US Navy says things have changed.

"It seems like they've absolutely made a conscious decision to give us more space," Navy Cmdr. William Urban recently said. "That is definitely a change in their behavior."

Iran would charge US Navy ships with fast attack craft, buzz fighter jets with drones, and even shine lasers at helicopters operating at sea during Obama's presidency.
But the worst, most embarrassing incident occurred in January 2016, when Iran's navy seized two US Navy rivernine boats and the 10 sailors on board after the ship wandered into Iranian waters due to mechanical issues. They broadcast footage of the sailors, crying, in detention, on television across the country. Iran later announced plans to build a monument commemorating the event.

Later that year Iranian ships conducted "unsafe and unprofessional," and often taunting maneuvers around US Navy ships in the Persian Gulf five times in about a month.

In September of that same year, Trump addressed Iran while on the campaign trail. "When they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn't be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water," Trump said.

Shortly after Trump's election, the incidents noticeably stopped, despite Trump's open hostility towards Iran, compared to Obama's attempts to appease them.


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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2019, 04:30:59 AM »
mao ni delikado kay isog man si Trump, dili mo atras ug gera. mao nga medyo mi kalma ang Iran. pero gamay ra ang bikil, ug kini mahimong pabilo sa WW3, patay tang tanan hasta ok-ok ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2019, 07:59:58 AM »
How real is the risk of war?

Both Iran and the United States are on the record denying they want a war and it's hard to see how it would be popular in either country. But the military situation in the Middle East is inherently unstable, and there are multiple potential flashpoints. U.S. and Iranian military forces are in close proximity across the region.

There's a risk of miscalculation or accident. U.S. and Iranian boats crisscross in the Persian Gulf, where Iran captured some U.S. sailors in 2016. Iranian officials have threatened to block the narrow Strait of Hormuz. Pro-Iranian militias move in the same cities in Iraq as U.S. troops and have attacked them in the past. They're also close to each other in Syria.

The U.S. has major military bases in Qatar and Bahrain, just across the Gulf from Iran.

Some of Iran's hard-liners might welcome a conflict with the U.S. because it would undermine moderate Iranians who want to engage with the West.

And a small conflict could grow. Iran could engage in underground attacks around the region or outside it. Israel or Saudi Arabia might take the opportunity to attack their big regional rival.

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« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2019, 06:28:07 PM »
The aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, Britain's largest warship, sailed into New York Harbor Friday, marking the first visit of a British carrier to the city in nearly a decade.

The Portsmouth-based Queen Elizabeth, displacing over 70,000 tons, will stay in New York for a week, according to a statement from the Royal Navy.

Check out these amazing photos from the Royal Navy of their carrier sailing into the harbor.

"I am delighted and proud to have brought HMS Queen Elizabeth into New York Harbor for the first time," Captain Jerry Kyd, the ship's commanding officer, stated upon arrival. "This visit is very symbolic of the intimate relationship the Royal Navy has with the US Navy and Marine Corps."

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« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2019, 06:29:28 PM »
mo laban ang british sa US. mi bisita sa new york ang ilang mga barko de gera. nanimahong gera na jud


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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2019, 06:31:01 PM »

HMS Queen Elizabeth Royal Navy

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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2019, 06:26:00 AM »
More US troops requested to deter Iran

U.S. Central Command is requesting additional defensive capabilities that could lead to as many as 5,000 to 10,000 additional troops being sent to the Middle East to deter Iran, a U.S. official told ABC News.

On Thursday afternoon, acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan confirmed that the Pentagon is asking for more forces, but would not confirm any numbers, saying that it was not 5,000 or 10,000.

"What we are focused on now is do we have the right force protection in the Middle East?," he told reporters outside the Pentagon.

"What we’re looking at are there things we can do to enhance force protection in the Middle East," he added.

Shanahan acknowledged that such a request " may involve sending additional troops."

There was a meeting at the White House on Thursday where the Central Command request was to be considered, according to two U.S. officials, who stressed that it was unclear which portions of the CENTCOM request could be approved at this White House meeting.

 PHOTO: A convoy of US forces drive near the village of Yalanli, on the western outskirts of the northern Syrian city of Manbij,

The U.S. official told ABC News Wednesday that the defensive capabilities and weapons systems were being requested, and that the number of additional forces will depend on which capabilities are approved.

The CENTCOM request has been in the works for some time, the U.S. official said.

There are currently 60,000 to 80,000 U.S. troops serving in the Middle East including 14,000 in Afghanistan, 5,000 in Iraq, 2,000 in Syria, 10,000 in Kuwait, 10,000 in Qatar and thousands more at sea and elsewhere in the region.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford briefed the House and Senate Tuesday on President Donald Trump's Iran strategy, including recent intelligence of an increased Iranian threat and the U.S. reaction to it, the deployment of an aircraft carrier strike group and B-52 bombers and the ordered departure of non-emergency personnel from Iraq.

After hearing from the officials, Democratic lawmakers expressed alarm over the administration's posture in the Middle East and the possibility of a conflict with Iran.

Additional defensive capabilities could include additional Patriot anti-missile batteries, like the one already deployed to an unspecified location in the Middle East to deter Iran. Also under discussion are additional aircraft, including reconnaissance aircraft, and additional air and missile defense systems, said a U.S. official.

CENTCOM could be requesting additional U.S. Navy ships to the region beyond the USS Abraham Lincoln Strike Group and the USS Kearsarge Amphibious Group that are currently in the North Arabian Sea.

But it's unclear when additional ships could arrive in the region. Two weeks ago, the Pentagon announced that the USS Arlington would be headed to the Middle East to swap out with another ship, but that has yet to occur as the Arlington is currently in Spain.

The new CENTCOM request for additional defensive capabilities and forces comes as Shanahan said on Tuesday that the threat of Iranian attacks against U.S. forces had been put "on hold."

U.S. officials said the Iranian threat to U.S. forces continues even as Iran has pulled back some weapons systems. Two U.S. officials said that Iran has removed cruise missiles from two civilian dhows that posed a risk to U.S. Navy ships, commercial ships and land targets.



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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2019, 06:30:55 AM »
As tensions mount between the United States and Iran, American and Iranian leaders publicly insist they want to avoid war. Yet history is littered with accidents, misperceptions, miscalculations, hidden bureaucratic agendas and other factors that produced armed conflicts nobody seemed to want. This is one fictional example of how easily a war between the United States and Iran could start. None of this has happened — but it could.

On Aug. 7, 2018, Qasem Soleimani, the commander of the Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force, rushed out of an emergency session of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council. The meeting discussed how to respond to news that Iran’s oil sales — the lifeblood of the Islamic republic’s economy — had plummeted to only a few hundred thousand barrels a day, down more than 2 million barrels in just 18 months, because of U.S. sanctions.

Soleimani had a few important calls to make. The first two went to the commanders of Asaib Ahl al-Haq and Kataib Hezbollah, the most prominent Iranian-backed Shiite militias in Iraq. Since the defeat of the Islamic State’s territorial “caliphate,” these militants had been itching to turn their sights on the 5,000 U.S. troops who remained in Iraq, with the goal of driving them out. Soleimani had cautioned patience, but his guidance now took a decisive turn: “Brothers, you have my authorization. Follow the righteous path.”

Soleimani’s next call was to Hasan Nasrallah, the leader of Lebanese Hezbollah, the most capable Iranian proxy in the Middle East. Despite hundreds of Israeli strikes in recent years against Hezbollah arms shipments and Iranian bases in Syria, the organization and its backers in Tehran had not yet waged an all-out war across Israel’s northern frontier. Still, everyone knew that such a conflict was inevitable at some point, and Soleimani told Nasrallah that the time might be approaching. “The American-Zionist alliance is plotting and a storm is coming,” he said. “Be ready.”

One week after Soleimani’s calls, a U.S. diplomatic convoy traveling from the heavily fortified Green Zone to Baghdad International Airport was hit by several powerful roadside bombs. A high-level State Department political officer, three other diplomats and a U.S. Army colonel were killed instantly.

Within hours, other attacks followed, including a barrage of rocket and mortar fire on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad that destroyed the main dining hall and killed five Iraqis cleaning the grounds. At the same time, a suicide attacker hit a U.S. military unit operating in eastern Syria, near the Iraqi border. Two American Special Operations troops were killed, and two more were taken hostage by a Syrian militia widely believed to be backed by Iran.

Under any circumstances, these incidents would spark a crisis. But they occurred against a backdrop of escalating tensions and provocations between Washington and Tehran that had begun after the Trump administration withdrew from the Obama-era nuclear agreement with Iran in 2018. The subsequent “maximum pressure” campaign the administration applied to cut off Iran’s oil sales and connections to the international banking system deepened the siege mentality in Tehran. The U.S. decision to designate the Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization, overruling warnings from the Pentagon, made the situation even tenser. Iran responded by restarting some proscribed nuclear activities and carrying out calibrated provocations in May, hoping to reciprocate U.S. pressure and build leverage in the event that negotiations with the Great Satan ever resumed.

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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2019, 09:46:00 PM »

An Iranian vessel steers close to the U.S. Navy coastal patrol craft USS Thunderbolt, right, in the Persian Gulf in a still image from video provided by the U.S. Navy, on July 25. Encounters between U.S. and Iranian ships in the Persian Gulf are routine and often tense. Iranian warships are set to leave the waters of the Persian Gulf to sail across the world to tour the Gulf of Mexico.
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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2019, 09:47:52 PM »

U.S. deploys 1,500 troops to 'bolster defenses against Iran'. Pictured: An F/A-18E Super Hornet flying above the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier in the Arabian Sea. AFP

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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2019, 09:50:19 PM »
 The U.S. military presence in the Middle East is at its “weakest in history”, a deputy commander of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards was on Sunday quoted by the semi-official news agency Fars as saying.

U.S. President Donald Trump has tightened economic sanctions against Iran, and his administration says it has built up the U.S. military presence in the region.

It accuses Iran of threats to U.S. troops and interests. Tehran has described U.S. moves as “psychological warfare” and a “political game”.

“The Americans have been present in the region since 1833 and they are now at their weakest in history in West Asia,” said Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi, a deputy Guards commander, according to Fars.

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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2019, 09:52:52 PM »
he Pentagon has announced it will deploy approximately 1,500 personnel to the Middle East, including fighter jets, reconnaissance and surveillance aircraft, a battalion of Patriot surface-to-air missile systems, and combat engineers. However, U.S. military officials have already clarified that some 600 of these personnel are already in the region and will simply be extending their tours. The deployments are in response to still largely nebulous claims from the U.S. government that intelligence showed Iran and its proxies were preparing to launch attacks on American interests in the Middle East.

Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan revealed basic details about the new force posture on May 24, 2019, though he did not say specifically where the additional personnel would be arriving. The day before, he had dismissed various news reports that had said the United States was considering sending between 5,000 and 10,000 additional troops to the region. It should be noted that tthe U.S. military already has tens of thousands of troops in the Middle East.

Since National Security Advisor John Bolton first announced the Iranian threat on May 6, 2019, the U.S. military has sent B-52H bombers, F-15C Eagle fighter jets, and an additional battery of Patriots to the region, as well as expedited the deployment of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and her associated carrier strike group to the area. The U.S. Navy also sent the amphibious ship USS Arlington to swap places with another already sailing in and around the Persian Gulf.

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« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2019, 09:15:59 PM »

The aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln last week in the Persian Gulf. As a precaution, the Pentagon has moved an aircraft carrier and more naval firepower to the gulf region.CreditCreditU.S. Navy, via Associated Press

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« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2019, 09:18:55 PM »
WASHINGTON — At a meeting of President Trump’s top national security aides last Thursday, Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan presented an updated military plan that envisions sending as many as 120,000 troops to the Middle East should Iran attack American forces or accelerate work on nuclear weapons, administration officials said.
The revisions were ordered by hard-liners led by John R. Bolton, Mr. Trump’s national security adviser. They do not call for a land invasion of Iran, which would require vastly more troops, officials said.

The development reflects the influence of Mr. Bolton, one of the administration’s most virulent Iran hawks, whose push for confrontation with Tehran was ignored more than a decade ago by President George W. Bush.

It is highly uncertain whether Mr. Trump, who has sought to disentangle the United States from Afghanistan and Syria, ultimately would send so many American forces back to the Middle East.

It is also unclear whether the president has been briefed on the number of troops or other details in the plans. On Monday, asked about if he was seeking regime change in Iran, Mr. Trump said: “We’ll see what happens with Iran. If they do anything, it would be a very bad mistake.”



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« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2019, 09:20:14 PM »

Since John R. Bolton became the national security adviser in April 2018, he has intensified the Trump administration’s policy of isolating and pressuring Iran.

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« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2019, 09:17:46 PM »
Iran is a maritime power bordered by the Caspian sea to the north and the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman to the south. It shares land borders with several troubled U.S. allies, including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey and Iraq.

Its location in the center of Eurasia is particularly important for trade. About a third of the world’s oil tanker traffic passes through the Strait of Hormuz, which is bordered by Iran and Oman. At its narrowest point, this shipping route is just under two miles wide. Blocking it could lead shipments of daily global oil exports to drop by an estimated 30 percent.

In terms of conventional military strength, Iran is far weaker than the United States. But the country has long pursued asymmetric strategies that could allow it to inflict serious damage on U.S. interests in the region.

Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps, a force loyal to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and separate from the regular military, has an external special operations arm known as the Quds Force that has helped build proxy forces in places such as Iraq, Lebanon and Syria. It funds militias such as Hezbollah, which is powerful in its own right.
Iran has used these type of groups to target Americans before. Earlier this year, a revised Pentagon estimate found Iranian proxy forces had killed at least 608 U.S. troops in Iraq between 2003 and 2011. Iranian proxies could cause havoc in Iraq and Afghanistan again.

Iran’s navy has a real advantage against the United States, too. It doesn’t need big ships or firepower to block off the Strait of Hormuz, for example, but could use mines or submarines to force a halt in trade.

U.S. war games have suggested that speedboat suicide attacks and missiles could be surprisingly effective against the American military. A 2017 report from the Office of Naval Intelligence found that the navy of the Revolutionary Guard, which is distinct from Iran’s regular navy and focuses on smaller and faster but still heavily armed vessels, had received more responsibilities to protect the Persian Gulf.




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« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2019, 08:27:27 AM »


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« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2019, 08:28:09 AM »
On paper, Iran's military is no match for the US's armed forces.
But Tehran has asymmetric capabilities that it could bring to bear, and conditions on the ground as well as unexpected factors would make any US victory a costly one.

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« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2019, 08:29:27 AM »
If the long history of military conflict teaches us anything, it's that wars, like marriages, are easier to get into than out. War with Iran would be no exception.

On paper, it would hardly be a contest. "It won't be a fair fight," promised Gen. Frank McKenzie this month as tensions flared and the US dispatched warships and bombers in response to unspecified threats from Iran to US interests in the Persian Gulf region.

As the head of US Central Command, McKenzie would be in charge of drawing up and executing the battle plan, assuming he's not micromanaged by the White House.

Even while dismissing as "fake news" a New York Times report that contingency planning called for sending 120,000 US troops to the Middle East, President Trump indicated that his inclination is to go big or go home.

"If we did that, we'd send a hell of a lot more troops than that," he said.

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« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2019, 08:58:29 AM »

Aviation Ordnanceman 3rd Class Alexandrina Ross, right, and Aviation Ordnanceman Airman Hunter Musil, left, inspect a bomb on the USS Abraham Lincoln while in the Arabian Sea, May 15, 2019. Associated Press

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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2019, 02:57:11 AM »
The US military is far superior to Iran's in every significant way. Iran's air force consists of about 330 combat aircraft, mostly aging or obsolete US, Chinese, and Soviet models, including American F-14s that predate the 1979 Islamic Revolution.


Its navy has about 130 combatant surface ships, along with three diesel submarines, and its troops number a little over half a million, with roughly 350,000 soldiers in the army and another 150,000 in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which the Trump administration has just labeled a terrorist organization.

America's military enjoys state-of-the art weaponry and employs battlefield tactics honed by decades of real-world combat. Iran's ability to modernize its military has been crippled by four decades of sanctions, and it hasn't fought a major war in 30 years.

In a conventional force-on-force war, like the 1991 Persian Gulf War, the US would win in short order, at least on paper. But wars aren't fought on paper, and the last notable tank-on-tank conventional land battle was the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq.

"There are two ways to fight the United States military, asymmetrically and stupid, and you hope that your enemies pick stupid," former national security adviser retired Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster said at a conference in Washington this month. In 2003, Saddam Hussein picked stupid. Iran would want to avoid that mistake.



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« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2019, 04:01:25 AM »

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« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2019, 04:02:57 AM »
The US military is deploying additional assets to the Middle East to deter a possible Iranian attack, the Pentagon announced on Friday.

The USS Arlington, an amphibious transport-landing dock used to move troops for expeditionary operations, and a Patriot surface-to-air missile battery are on their way to the US Central Command area of responsibility

These assets will join the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group and the B-52 bomber task force deployed to this region earlier in the week.
The US is sending even more firepower to the Middle East in response to unspecified threats from Iran, the Pentagon announced on Friday.

The USS Arlington, a San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock used to move Marines, amphibious assault vehicles, conventional landing craft, and rotary aircraft, and a Patriot surface-to-air missile battery capable of eliminating certain types of incoming missiles and aircraft are on their way to the US Central Command area of responsibility.

The deployment is part of an ongoing effort that began on Sunday to deter a possible Iranian attack on US forces or interests in the region, the Department of Defense said, stressing that the movement of US assets is "in response to indications of heightened Iranian readiness to conduct offensive operations against US forces and our interests."


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« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2019, 04:04:17 AM »

An F/A-18E Super Hornet on the flight deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln. US Navy photo
by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jeff Sherman

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« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2019, 04:06:12 AM »

Aircraft carrier: USS Abraham Lincoln

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« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2019, 04:06:46 AM »
Adm. John Richardson, the chief of naval operations, previously described aircraft carriers as a "tremendous expression of US national power." A carrier strike group is an even stronger message. "CSGs are visible and powerful symbols of US commitment and resolve," US European Command said in a statement on Tuesday.

The USS Abraham Lincoln, a mobile sea-based airfield, is the lead ship for the carrier strike group that bears its name and is outfitted with a highly capable carrier air wing.

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« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2019, 04:07:41 AM »

An F/A-18E Super Hornet. Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Ryan U. Kledzik/US Navy

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Cruiser: USS Leyte Gulf

Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers are multi-role warships that run heavily armed with 122 vertical-launch-system (VLS) cells capable of carrying everything from Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles to surface-to-air missiles and anti-submarine-warfare rockets.

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A near collision between Russian destroyer and US cruiser in the Philippine Sea. US 7th Fleet

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naa pay problema sa iran, naa na poy problema sa russia. hapit magka bangga-ay ang duha ka warships. ug nag bangga pa, gera jud ang resulta

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The US and Russia are blaming each other for a close encounter in the Philippine Sea on Friday, when a Russian destroyer nearly collided with a US Navy cruiser.

The US Navy has backed up its version of events with photos and videos.


The US Navy caught a Russian destroyer on video as it closed with a US warship, nearly colliding with the American vessel in a dangerous close encounter at sea.

The Russian destroyer DD572, which Russia identified as the Admiral Vinogradov, closed with the US Navy Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Chancellorsville on Friday, putting the sailors on board at risk, US 7th Fleet said in a statement.

The US Navy says the Russian vessel engaged in "unsafe and unprofessional" conduct at sea. Specifically, it "maneuvered from behind and to the right of Chancellorsville, accelerated, and closed to an unsafe distance of approximately 50-100 feet."

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« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2019, 02:30:56 AM »
The Russians are telling a different story, accusing the US Navy of suddenly changing course and cutting across the path of its destroyer. The US Navy has released videos of the incident to back its narrative.

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Naval affairs expert Bryan Clark offered some clarity on just how risky this type of situation is, explaining that 50 - 100 feet for a destroyer is comparable to being inches from another car while barreling down the freeway.

"It's really dangerous," he told Business Insider. "Unlike a car, a ship doesn't have brakes. So the only way you can slow down is by throwing it into reverse. It's going to take time to slow down because the friction of the water is, of course, a lot less than the friction of the road. Your stopping distance is measured in many ship lengths."



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« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2019, 02:32:41 AM »
"When someone pulls a maneuver like that," Clark added, "It's really hard to slow down or stop or maneuver quickly to avoid the collision."

The Russian version of the story is that the US ship is to blame.

"The US guided-missile cruiser Chancellorsville suddenly changed course and cut across the path of the destroyer Admiral Vinogradov coming within 50 meters of the ship," the Russian Ministry of Defense said in a statement. "A protest over the international radio frequency was made to the commanders of the American ship who were warned about the unacceptable nature of such actions."

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Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman said Iran did not respect Japanese diplomatic
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« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2019, 04:30:13 AM »
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) has accused archrival Iran of attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman, adding he "won't hesitate" to tackle any threats to the kingdom.

Two tankers were struck by explosions on Thursday, the second attack in a month in the strategic shipping lane amid a tense United States-Iran standoff, prompting fears of a regional conflagration and sending oil prices soaring.

"We do not want a war in the region... But we won't hesitate to deal with any threat to our people, our sovereignty, our territorial integrity and our vital interests," MBS told pan-Arab daily Asharq al-Awsat in an interview published on Sunday.

Is Iran to blame for suspected attacks on Gulf tankers?

"The Iranian regime did not respect the presence of the Japanese prime minister as a guest in Tehran and responded to his (diplomatic) efforts by attacking two tankers, one of which was Japanese," MBS added in his first public comment since the attacks.

Prince Mohammed also accused Iran "and its proxies" of the May 12 attacks on four tankers anchored in the Gulf of Oman off the United Arab Emirates' port of Fujairah.

Thursday's attack on the two tankers - Japanese-owned Kokuka Courageous that was carrying highly flammable methanol when it was rocked by explosions and the Norwegian-operated Front Altair - came around the time Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was meeting Iranian leaders in Tehran.

US President Donald Trump has said the twin attacks had Iran "written all over it", rejecting Tehran's vehement denial.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif tweeted that the US had "immediately jumped to make allegations against Iran without a shred of factual or circumstantial evidence".

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« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2019, 04:31:55 AM »
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The US military on Friday released grainy footage it said showed an Iranian patrol boat removing an "unexploded limpet mine" from one of the tankers.

Speaking from Muscat, Al Jazeera's Mohamed Vall said that more investigations were being carried out about the attacks.


US releases video it claims shows Iran removing mine from tanker

"The Americans have sent a team to board one of the two tankers that have been hit to collect more evidence.

"Also, the foreign minister of the UAE has said his country has submitted more evidence to the Security Council … [which they say shows the incident] was state-sponsored. There wasn't a mention of Iran, but Saudi Arabia and the UAE have from day one supported the American version of events," Vall said.

Both sides have also continued to beat the drums of war.

"The Americans say they are capable of waging a war and forcing Iran to stop sabotaging the waterways of the Gulf and disrupting oil supplies to the world.

"Iranians, on the other hand, are saying they have done nothing wrong, but if forced to war, they are ready to defend themselves," said Vall.

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« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2019, 04:33:19 AM »
UAE's Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan on Saturday called on world powers "to secure international navigation and access to energy", a plea echoed by regional ally Saudi Arabia after the incident sent crude oil prices soaring.

Saudi Arabia calls for 'decisive' action over tanker attacks
Iran has repeatedly warned in the past that it could block the strategic Hormuz Strait in a relatively low-tech, high-impact countermeasure to any attack by the US.

Doing so would disrupt oil tankers travelling out of the Gulf region to the Indian Ocean and global export routes.

The UAE's Sheikh Abdullah, whose country is bitterly opposed to Iranian influence in the region, called for a de-escalation of tensions.

"We remain hopeful in attaining a broader framework for cooperation with Iran," he said at a summit in Bulgaria.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia's Energy Minister Khalid al-Falih called for a "swift and decisive" response to threats against energy supplies after Thursday's "terrorist acts".

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« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2019, 04:34:41 AM »
The Japanese tanker's Tokyo-based operator Kokuka confirmed on Saturday the stricken vessel was heading to port in the UAE.

"We still don't know if the tanker goes to Khor Fakkan or Fujairah as they are very close," said a spokesperson, referring to the two Emirati ports on the Gulf of Oman.

Maritime experts would then seek to transfer the highly flammable cargo to shore, according to an unnamed official quoted by Japanese state media.

The other ship, the Front Altair, has left Iran's territorial waters, multiple sources said on Saturday.

The ship is "heading toward the Fujairah-Khor Fakkan area" in the UAE, the head of ports for Iran's southern province of Hormozgan told the semi-official news agency ISNA.

The tanker "has left Iran's territorial waters", he said, adding that it was being towed and sprayed with water to cool the hull.

A spokesperson for Frontline Management, the Norwegian company which owns the ship, said "all 23 crew members of the tanker departed Iran" and flew to Dubai on Saturday.

"All crew members are well and have been well looked after while in Iran," she said.




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« Reply #77 on: June 20, 2019, 11:28:13 PM »
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In this June 13, 2019 file photo, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., speaks
during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington.

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« Reply #78 on: June 20, 2019, 11:31:19 PM »
WASHINGTON (AP) — THE Latest on the United States and Iran

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the U.S. cannot be "reckless" amid rising tensions with Iran.

Pelosi said Thursday she doesn't think President Donald Trump wants to go to war. And she said the American people don't want war either.

"There's no appetite for going to war in our country," she said.

The country needs to be "strong and strategic" about protecting its interests, Pelosi said, and "cannot be reckless."

Pelosi called a caucus-wide meeting of Democrats for later Thursday on Iran. House and Senate leadership will also be briefed by administration officials.

Tensions between Tehran and Washington have been rising over the collapsing nuclear deal with world powers. On Thursday Iran's Revolutionary Guard shot down a U.S. surveillance drone.

President Donald Trump declared Thursday that "Iran made a very big mistake" in shooting down a U.S. drone.

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders says Trump was briefed Wednesday night and again Thursday morning about the incident. She says the administration also will keep in touch with lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

Trump made his comment on Twitter in midmorning.

American and Iranian officials are disputing the circumstances of the incident.

Iran's Revolutionary Guard said it shot down the drone over Iranian airspace. The U.S. military is calling the downing an "unprovoked attack" and said it occurred over international airspace in the Strait of Hormuz.



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« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2019, 11:33:26 PM »

Iran's Revolutionary Guard commander Gen. Hossein Salami, said shooting down the American drone should
serve as a warning that the U.S. should “stay away,” Iranian state media reported Thursday morning

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« Reply #80 on: June 20, 2019, 11:35:27 PM »
Iran shot down a U.S. drone near Iranian airspace in what Tehran calls a "clear message" to the U.S. that it will respond to what it perceives as acts of aggression.

U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in the Middle East, confirmed the incident early Thursday, saying an Iranian surface-to-air missile shot down the unarmed RQ-4 Global Hawk surveillance drone. The headquarters disputed as "false" Iranian claims that the drone was operating in Iranian airspace.

"This was an unprovoked attack on a U.S. surveillance asset in international airspace," Navy Capt. Bill Urban, a spokesman for the command, said in a statement.

The incident comes at a time of particularly high tensions between Washington and Tehran, following U.S. claims that Iran as of last month presents new and dangerous threats to Americans and their allies in the region. The Trump administration has unilaterally withdrawn itself from the 2015 agreement restricting Iran's nuclear capabilities but also limiting America's ability to impose harsh sanctions, and followed through with what it considers a "maximum pressure campaign" against the Iranian regime.

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« Reply #81 on: June 20, 2019, 11:36:30 PM »
Top officials from each country have stated they do not intend to start a war. But both the U.S. and Iran have increasingly turned to military options in response to a string of contentious incidents in recent days, sparking fears that a military escalation following an incident like Thursday's could prove inevitable.

Maj. Gen. Hossein Salami, commander of Iran's elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, said shooting down the American drone should serve as a warning that the U.S. should "stay away," Iranian state media reported Thursday morning.

"Borders are our red lines and any enemy which violates them will not go back home and will be annihilated. The only way for enemies is to respect Iran's territorial integrity and national interests," Salami said. "We declare that we do not want war with any country but we are fully ready for war and the [incident today] was a clear instance of this precise message."

In an unprecedented move, Iran said earlier this week it plans to break from the terms of the 2015 nuclear deal, which analysts considered a threat it would pursue nuclear weapons if the U.S. did not dial back its sanctions regime.




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« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2019, 11:37:12 PM »
The strike followed U.S. confirmation that Iranian proxies in Yemen had tried to shoot down another American drone that was surveilling two cargo ships that were disabled by some sort of explosion a week ago. Top U.S. officials at the White House, Pentagon and State Department affirm that Iran was solely behind the attack, deploying operatives who placed limpet mines on the ships while they were transiting the Strait of Hormuz, a key shipping lane near Iranian waters.

Yemen's Houthi rebels, backed by Iran, successfully shot down another U.S. drone the week before.

Senior members of Congress have expressed concern that the Trump administration may preemptively attack Iran under congressional authorization from 2001 that allowed the U.S. to pursue the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks and their associates. Top Trump officials, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, have insisted in recent weeks that Tehran is coordinating with al-Qaida leaders.

The Trump administration's top envoy to Iran, Special Representative Brian Hook, on Wednesday refused to answer questions from a special meeting of the House Foreign Affairs Committee regarding whether the Trump administration believed it has such authority.

"If the use of military force is necessary to defend U.S. national security interests, we will do everything we need to do," Hook said.

It was not immediately clear Thursday morning whether the U.S. considered Iran's shooting down its drone as a threat to its national security interests.

Analysts last week said suspicion that the Iranian military carried out the attacks on the cargo ships – rather than farming the job out to a proxy group and granting Tehran deniability – served as evidence that the Trump administration's pressure campaign has forced Iran to act with greater desperation.

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« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2019, 11:38:24 PM »
American officials, however, insist the pressure campaign has proven successful in isolating Iran's ability to sell its oil and raise the cash it needs. Hook said Wednesday, "our pressure campaign is working."

He described it as "an economic and diplomatic one," adding "Iran has not responded to this in a diplomatic fashion."

"It has responded to it with violence, and we very much believe Iran should meet diplomacy with diplomacy, not with terror, bloodshed and distortion."

Following reports in early May that Iran posed a new threat, the U.S. expedited deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier strike group to the region, and sent a strategic bomber group. It has subsequently bolstered its military presence, including acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan's confirming on Monday he would send 1,000 more forces to the region to help protect those already there.



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« Reply #84 on: June 21, 2019, 08:12:52 PM »
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Outgoing acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan arrives for a meeting with
President Donald Trump about Iran carrying a folder marked secret, at the
White House, Thursday, June 20, 2019, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon) THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

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« Reply #85 on: June 21, 2019, 08:13:59 PM »
A U.S. official says the military made preparations Thursday night for limited strikes on Iran in retaliation for the downing of a U.S. surveillance drone, but approval was abruptly withdrawn before the attacks were launched.

The official, who was not authorized to discuss the operation publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity, says the targets would have included radars and missile batteries.

The New York Times reported that President Donald Trump had approved the strikes, but then called them off. The newspaper cited anonymous senior administration officials.

The White House on Thursday night declined requests for information about whether Trump changed his mind.

Trump spent most of Thursday discussing Iran strategy with top national security advisers and congressional leaders. Asked earlier in the day about a U.S. response to the attack, he said, "You'll soon find out."



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« Reply #86 on: June 21, 2019, 08:16:51 PM »
A top Democrat says President Donald Trump "certainly listened" to what lawmakers had to say during a White House meeting Thursday on the situation in Iran.

Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, says congressional leaders urged the president to work with U.S. allies. They stressed the "need for de-escalation" and cautioned the administration about "the risk of unintended consequences" amid heightened tensions in the Middle East.

Schiff told The Associated Press, "The president certainly listened to what we had to say."

The California Democrat says he doesn't know how the administration will respond. He says he underscored that the administration cannot rely on the authorization for use of military force approved after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

He says the meeting was "cordial" and not confrontational.

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6:15 p.m.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is urging a "strategic, smart" response, in concert with U.S. allies, to the downing of an unmanned U.S. drone by Iran.

Pelosi says the "high-tension wires are up" in the region and says the U.S. "must do everything we can not to escalate the situation, but also to make sure our personnel in the region are safe."

The California Democrat tells reporters it is not clear whether the incident was an intentional attack, but adds, "whatever it is, it was Iranian."

She says Democrats made it clear to President Donald Trump at a meeting Thursday that the White House would need authorization from Congress before launching military action against Iran.

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5:30 p.m.

Top Democrats are warning President Donald Trump that he would need authorization from Congress before launching military action against Iran.

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer says he told the president during a classified briefing at the White House that there must be a "robust, open debate" and Congress should "have a real say."

He said he's worried the administration "may bumble into a war."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the administration should engage with U.S. allies "and do everything in our power to de-escalate."

The more-than-hourlong briefing on Iran was attended by leaders of both parties.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said afterward that he could confirm that a drone shot down by Iran was flying over international waters. He says the drone was fired upon from Iranian soil.

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5 p.m.

Top administration officials and lawmakers have left the White House after a more than hourlong briefing about Iran's downing of an American surveillance drone in the Middle East amid mounting tension between the U.S. and Iran.

The White House invited House and Senate leaders and Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate intelligence and Armed Services committees to meet with President Donald Trump on Thursday.

Others who arrived for the meeting included CIA Director Gina Haspel, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan and Army Secretary Mark Esper, who Trump has said he'll nominate as defense secretary.

Shanahan was carrying a folder stamped "SECRET/NOFORN," an intelligence classification category prohibiting distribution to anyone outside the United States government.

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3:30 p.m.

Top administration officials and lawmakers are arriving at the White House for a briefing about Iran's downing of an American surveillance drone in the Middle East amid mounting tension between the U.S. and Iran.

The White House invited House and Senate leaders of both parties and Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate intelligence and Armed Services committees to meet with President Donald Trump on Thursday.

It's unclear if Trump is planning a U.S. response. He told reporters that Iran made a "very big mistake" but also said he has the feeling that it might have been the result of someone being "loose" or doing something "stupid."

Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan and Army Secretary Mark Esper, who Trump has said he'll nominate as defense secretary, also arrived for the meeting.

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3:10 p.m.

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden says that President Donald Trump has made military conflict with Iran more likely and that "another war in the Middle East is the last thing we need."

Biden made the remarks Thursday as tensions between Washington and Tehran escalated over the downing of an American drone over Iranian airspace.

Biden says Trump's strategy in Iran is "a self-inflicted disaster" since Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Iran nuclear agreement negotiated when Biden was vice president.

Biden says there's no question that Iran "continues to be a bad actor that abuses human rights and supports terrorist activities." But he says the U.S. needs presidential leadership at this moment.

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2:55 p.m.

Democratic presidential candidate Kirsten Gillibrand is demanding that President Donald Trump abstain from sending American troops into a conflict with Iran without congressional approval.

The New York senator outlined her position in a sharply worded letter to the White House on Thursday.

Gillibrand writes that she's "deeply concerned that your administration's stepped up military presence in the Middle East, in conjunction with your dangerous and confusing rhetoric, may lead the United States into a protracted, costly, and unnecessary war with Iran. Such a war is not authorized, would unnecessarily risk the lives of Americans and our allies, cause enormous human suffering, and destabilize the economy."

Gillibrand's position is not unique in her party, but she becomes one of the first Democratic presidential candidates to share her concerns with the White House directly.

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1:50 p.m.

The White House is inviting House and Senate leaders for a briefing with President Donald Trump on Thursday afternoon to discuss tensions with Iran.

That's according to two people familiar with the invitation who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it.

In addition to House and Senate leaders of both parties, the White House extended the invitation to the top Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate intelligence and Armed Services committees.

The briefing comes after Iran's Revolutionary Guard shot down a U.S. surveillance drone. Trump said it might have been a mistake executed by someone just being "loose and stupid" and was coy about whether the U.S. would respond. He told reporters, "you'll find out."

— Mary Clare Jalonick

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12:35 p.m.

President Donald Trump is playing down Iran's downing of an American drone, saying that it might have been a mistake executed by someone just being "loose and stupid."

Trump told reporters Thursday that the shoot down of the drone was a "new wrinkle" in escalating tensions between the U.S. and Iran — a "fly in the ointment."

He was coy about whether the U.S. would respond, saying only that "you'll find out."

He said he has a feeling that it was a mistake — that a "general or somebody" made a mistake in shooting that drone down.

But he added that Iran made a "big mistake" and that the U.S. "will not stand for it."

Trump's words appear to signal that there may not be an immediate U.S. response to the incident.

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12:20 p.m.

President Donald Trump says Iran made a "very big mistake" when it shot down a U.S. drone, but he isn't saying how the U.S. plans to respond, saying only "you're going to find out."

Trump is speaking to reporters while meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as tensions between Washington and Tehran escalated over the downing of the drone, the U.S. exit from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal and sanctions crippling Iran's economy.

Iran's Revolutionary Guard said it shot down the drone over Iranian airspace. The U.S. military is calling the downing an "unprovoked attack" and said it occurred over international airspace in the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump said: "It was in international waters."

Iran's Revolutionary Guard says it shot down the RQ-4 Global Hawk drone over Iranian airspace.

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12:20 p.m.

A senior U.S. military official says Iran shot down an unmanned American aircraft over international waters in an attempt to disrupt U.S. efforts to monitor the Persian Gulf area.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Joseph Guastella says the shooting down of the drone follows recent threats to international shipping commerce in the region that the U.S. has blamed on Iran.

The commander of U.S. Central Command air forces in the region disputed Iranian claims that the drone was over Iranian air space.

Guastella told reporters Thursday that the aircraft was at high altitude and at least 34 kilometers from Iranian territory when it was shot over the Gulf of Oman.

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11:05 a.m.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the U.S. cannot be "reckless" amid rising tensions with Iran.

Pelosi said Thursday she doesn't think President Donald Trump wants to go to war. And she said the American people don't want war either.

"There's no appetite for going to war in our country," she said.

The country needs to be "strong and strategic" about protecting its interests, Pelosi said, and "cannot be reckless."

Pelosi called a caucus-wide meeting of Democrats for later Thursday on Iran. House and Senate leadership will also be briefed by administration officials.

Tensions between Tehran and Washington have been rising over the collapsing nuclear deal with world powers. On Thursday, Iran's Revolutionary Guard shot down a U.S. surveillance drone.

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10:20 a.m.

President Donald Trump declared Thursday that "Iran made a very big mistake" in shooting down a U.S. drone.

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders says Trump was briefed Wednesday night and again Thursday morning about the incident. She says the administration also will keep in touch with lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

Trump made his comment on Twitter in midmorning.

American and Iranian officials are disputing the circumstances of the incident.

Iran's Revolutionary Guard said it shot down the drone over Iranian airspace. The U.S. military is calling the downing an "unprovoked attack" and said it occurred over international airspace in the Strait of Hormuz.



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« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2019, 09:44:19 PM »
continuous ang atong coverage kay thrilling na ni ug sugod. nanimahong komo hihihihi. lisod ug ma dajon ni unja mahimong nuclear. patay tanan hasta ok-ok

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« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2019, 09:46:08 PM »

mao ni mahimong resulta. killed ta tanan ug mahimong nuclear warfare. wala tay ka daganan

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« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2019, 09:48:33 PM »
dili nimo ni ma basa sa manila daily inquirer, cebu daily news, bohol standard. anhi ra ni nimo masubay sa tubagbohol kronikol. busa ayaw ninyo sipyata .

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« Reply #90 on: June 22, 2019, 04:29:32 AM »
na anghelan. gi recall ni trump ang retaliatory strike against iran

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« Reply #91 on: June 22, 2019, 04:30:48 AM »
Trump Calls Off Retaliatory Strike Against Iran
Hours after Iran reportedly downed a sophisticated U.S. drone, the president recalled a military strike after it launched.

By Paul D. Shinkman, Senior National Security Writer June 21, 2019, at 9:27 a.m.

presko ug lab-as jud ni nga balita. this is the latest news

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« Reply #92 on: June 22, 2019, 04:32:01 AM »

President Donald Trump originally approved the military strike after Iran shot down
a multimillion-dollar U.S. drone on Thursday, June 20, 2019.(EVAN VUCCI/AP)

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« Reply #93 on: June 22, 2019, 04:32:55 AM »
PRESIDENT Donald Trump on Thursday night abruptly called off a military strike against Iran that had been planned in retaliation for the downing of a sophisticated American drone over international waters.


The New York Times first reported that the president had approved the retaliatory measure after Iran shot down a multimillion-dollar Navy RQ-4 Global Hawk drone with a surface-to-air missile near the Strait of Hormuz.

Military and diplomatic officials were reportedly expecting the strike against Iranian radar and missile sites as late as 7 p.m. Eastern time on Thursday, with planes in the air and ships in position to carry it out. It's not clear whether Trump abruptly changed his mind about carrying out the strikes or if some unforeseen logistical hurdle interfered with the U.S. plans.



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« Reply #94 on: June 22, 2019, 04:33:42 AM »
In a series of tweets Friday morning, Trump said the U.S. was "cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different [sites]" before a general told him 150 people would die in the strike.

Trump said he believed the strike was "not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone." He added he is in "no hurry" and that sanctions his administration has imposed against Iran are "biting." He said he added more Thursday night.

The strike would have been Trump's third against targets in the Middle East. He ordered two missile strikes against Syrian targets in 2017 and 2018. He also authorized a previously planned Navy SEAL raid in Yemen days into his administration in early 2017, which resulted in the death of one of the commandos.

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Re: WW3 US vs Iran
« Reply #95 on: June 22, 2019, 04:34:13 AM »
Speaking to reporters earlier on Thursday, Trump said Iran had made "a very big mistake" in attacking the drone, which Tehran on Friday continued to say was in Iranian airspace at the time it was shot down. Trump also indicated he believed Iran's top leadership may not have ordered the strike, suggesting instead that it may have been carried out by someone "loose and stupid."

U.S. officials said the drone was shot down over international waters, where it fell after it was shot down. Officials from Iran claimed Friday it had recovered parts of the drone within its territory.

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« Reply #96 on: June 22, 2019, 09:07:43 AM »

Fire and smoke billow from the Norwegian-owned Front Altair tanker on June 13, 2019,
in the Gulf of Oman. Benchmark crude oil prices this week jumped after Iran shot down
a U.S. surveillance drone near the Strait of Hormuz.(AFP/GETTY IMAGES)

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« Reply #97 on: June 22, 2019, 09:24:26 AM »
BENCHMARK CRUDE OIL prices this week experienced their biggest jump in months after Iran shot down a U.S. surveillance drone near the Strait of Hormuz, prompting concerns about further regional unrest and threats to oil security in the Middle East.

Brent crude oil, the benchmark for global prices and U.S. gasoline, had climbed by more than 8% since Monday and by over 5% in just the past 36 hours, as of Friday afternoon, after President Donald Trump announced that he had called off a retaliatory military strike against Iran. West Texas Intermediate, which tracks prices for the light, sweet crude produced in the U.S., had shot up by more than 11%.

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« Reply #98 on: June 22, 2019, 09:26:11 AM »
The leap in prices amounts to a remarkable turnabout for a market that had seemed all but impervious to price hikes.

"We certainly did see a jump when this occurred, particularly when it wasn't clear what kind of response we were looking at," says Ellen Wald, president of Transversal Consulting and a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council Global Energy Center. "It's a fairly good increase from where we were earlier."

While the escalation of tensions with Iran was the most obvious driver of the spike in oil prices, it occurred in the wake of other events this week that also may have had an influence.

The downing of the drone occurred less than 48 hours after President Donald Trump revealed Tuesday that he would be meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping at next week's G-20 summit in Japan – fueling hopes that an end or even just an easing of the two countries' tit-for-tat sanctions may be in sight. The Federal Reserve meanwhile indicated that it wouldn't raise interest rates and left the door open for a future cut, offering further reassurance to markets that there may not be a feared slowdown in demand.

In the wake of both developments, the S&P 500 – which Brent crude prices have closely tracked – and the Dow Jones industrial average had each climbed by more than 2.5% as of Friday.

"I wouldn't be surprised if some of this elevation in oil prices is due to a more favorable economic outlook," Wald says.

Oil prices are notoriously difficult to predict. Demand from the summer driving season typically drives an increase in prices – going into the Fourth of July weekend last year, Brent was hovering around $80 per barrel.

Yet before Thursday, global worries about an abrupt dropoff in demand – sparked by the U.S.-China trade war and portents of a looming recession – had kept prices between an anemic $59 and $61 per barrel since the start of June. They remained there despite falling inventories of oil worldwide, regional unrest in major oil producing countries, an agreement by OPEC members and Russia to extend production cuts, and even attacks last week on a Japanese and a Norwegian oil tanker near the Strait of Hormuz – events that once would have ignited fears about supply and sent prices soaring. Crude was fetching about $15-20 less than the same period last year, and roughly $10-15 less than analysts anticipated.

Booming U.S. oil production is perhaps most responsible for insulating markets from wild swings in prices, at least for now: Hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling in the past decade have propelled the country to become the world's top oil producer, and in recent months it's seen production rise even as dozens of rigs have gone offline.

"Underlying all of this is the fact that U.S. production continues to grow solidly this year, and it's also expected to grow next year, which is why if demand growth weakens, then the market could be looking at an oversupply," says Ann-Louise Hittle, vice president for oils research at the consulting firm Wood Mackenzie.

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Re: WW3 US vs Iran
« Reply #99 on: June 22, 2019, 09:27:30 AM »
Yet experts also generally agreed that investors' concerns about a drop-off in demand were keeping prices too low, especially based on what's often called the "fundamentals" – the basics of supply and demand. The question was what it would take to shake prices from their stupor.

"Oil prices barely budged on the news. This looks far too complacent," Steven Kopits, managing director of Princeton Energy Advisors, wrote in an email following last week's attack on the oil tankers. Predicting an increase in prices,he continued, "the risk on oil prices seems clearly to the upside over the next 10-day period."

Events this week seemed to provide that answer – at least for now. Between U.S.-Iran tensions, a potential end to the U.S.-China trade war and promising news from the Fed, Brent prices going into Friday afternoon were holding above $65. West Texas Intermediate was remaining around $57, but some analysts predicted it could reach $60 in the days ahead.

What happens with prices going forward depends on a variety of factors: If Trump and Xi signal significant progress in their scheduled talks next week, prices might jump. Conversely, Trump's disclosure Friday that he abruptly called off a planned military strike on Iran seemed to indicate that diplomatic and economic responses may still be on the table – perhaps avoiding a likely increase in oil prices caused by further military actions.

"From here, prices could go down $5 or they could go up $5, but it depends whether the U.S. reaches out to Iran or not. If it does, then oil prices will fall back to $62. If it doesn't, then we'll see another Iranian incident, after which there will be another very specific U.S. military response," Kopits says. "Then we're talking about Brent will be above $70 and WTI will be above $60."



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