Author Topic: Why is the Philippine Catholic Church Against Family Planning? (Read 20975 times)

zeffa · « **Reply #200 on:** January 20, 2011, 12:29:48 PM »

ahh, another media savvy preacher. i hope he is telegenic. i hope too that the tithe that his followers charitably donate to his cause would keep on coming so he could continue to buy airtime.

Yes..That would be a real turn off..Cant stand the hypocrisy of the type of TV preacher you describe!!
Just watch the guy if you have time and let me know what you think..
He often questions why certain sectors of the Christian community expect donations.. He is quite clear that he does not..
Anyway..Not trying to force the guy on anyone..Just saying that I personally trust him. My choice.

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islander · « **Reply #201 on:** January 20, 2011, 12:37:59 PM »

your personal choice is hereby respected. sorry, i can't watch him. in fact, i can't watch anything on tv because we have no tv. i banned this distraction of too many commercial ads from the house. i'm just wondering, though, what keeps this favorite preacher of yours on air. is his own money supply endless that he can get by without support? there's no such thing as a free lunch, you know. just curious, just as he may be curious about other christians who he's questioning for accepting donations.

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islander · « **Reply #202 on:** January 20, 2011, 12:57:51 PM »

Ha ha!! Now you have me thinking...That I like!!
Ive never really contemplated this subject in great depth but am willing to form an opinion based on this conversation!! (Although I cant stay too long..Lots to do today)

Of course!! How could it survive otherwise?

now i cannot even deign to use my brain or whatever is left of it...

let me repeat, are you really saying that when religion is dying, kleptocracy dies along with it? "if it could not survive otherwise", are you saying then that it is kleptocracy that makes religion live? something's askew here somewhere...

Seems to me,it requires countries with high poverty levels to survive(A bit like the Church) so I was wrong when I said "predominantly Catholic countries",sorry about that!...

the temporal church does not and could not live on poverty. like any organization, it cannot survive on nothing. it would do well to distinguish the temporal and the spiritual sides of the church as we see it. meanwhile, faith makes poverty bearable, whatever one's faith is.

The R.P has a 70% church attendance right? Now thats a huge mandate of support by the people which no Government could ignore(or ignore at their peril).. How much political power and influence that represents in real terms is anyone's guess..

percentaging in church attendance is at best an educated estimate. attendance does not a religion make. now i'm wondering how a church's political influence has gotten into our discussion...

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zeffa · « **Reply #203 on:** January 20, 2011, 01:10:48 PM »

Islander..
Thanks for that..
No idea how he funds the air time..All I know is there are no toll free numbers to ring etc and no mention of money..
He`s been preaching in the R.P since the 60`s and started out on local radio I believe. (Ang Dating Daan)
Im sure others on this forum can give you more info as he does seem to be pretty well known..Quite a character!
I have no interest to cause anyone any offence and will continue to respect others beliefs..Religion and politics are hard topics to discuss and differences of opinion can be a barrier..
This is the reason why the world is still at war..Very sad.
Must go...Im late!!

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islander · « **Reply #204 on:** January 20, 2011, 01:28:51 PM »

a good day to you then, zeffa. if it assures you any, i myself am not offended (i cannot speak for the other tb readers though i'm pretty sure they have stronger reasons for not taking offense). it's just that like you, i have my own ideas about faith and the church that i felt were worth expressing as you've expressed yours.

while religion and politics as topics for discussion tend to be endless (and sometimes divisive), we discuss these not to convince each other to one's side but only to try to clear up some misconceptions, real or otherwise.

meanwhile, religion is not necessarily the cause of today's wars. politics, maybe. but religion? i cannot imagine countries going to war because one has a prophet named christ and the other is named mohammed. these days, chances are countries go to war over territories or ideological differences or commercial interests. that's equally sad, indeed.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #205 on:** January 20, 2011, 01:38:33 PM »

a most splendid performance, isles and zeffa.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #206 on:** January 20, 2011, 01:56:22 PM »

a good day to you then, zeffa. if it assures you any, i myself am not offended (i cannot speak for the other tb readers though i'm pretty sure they have stronger reasons for not taking offense). it's just that like you, i have my own ideas about faith and the church that i felt were worth expressing as you've expressed yours.

while religion and politics as topics for discussion tend to be endless (and sometimes divisive), we discuss these not to convince each other to one's side but only to try to clear up some misconceptions, real or otherwise.

meanwhile, religion is not necessarily the cause of today's wars. politics, maybe. but religion? i cannot imagine countries going to war because one has a prophet named christ and the other is named mohammed. these days, chances are countries go to war over territories or ideological differences or commercial interests. that's equally sad, indeed.

There are as many reasons to go to war as there are warmongers, perhaps even more. Seems to me that war is nothing more than just one way of trying to clear up some misconceptions, real or otherwise.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #207 on:** January 20, 2011, 02:20:59 PM »

Yes..That would be a real turn off..Cant stand the hypocrisy of the type of TV preacher you describe!!
Just watch the guy if you have time and let me know what you think..
He often questions why certain sectors of the Christian community expect donations.. He is quite clear that he does not..
Anyway..Not trying to force the guy on anyone..Just saying that I personally trust him. My choice.

Donations, otherwise known as tithes are biblical mandates. It is an order given and ordered by the Very Mouth of God.
Tithing is a test of faith. And those who abide in tithing to the 10th percent expect, in faith, and in honesty, to be
given God's abundant blessings.

Again, The Lord Thy God commands those who have ears that hear:

Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.

-Malachi 3:10

~

To The LORD be the first fruits....

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #208 on:** January 20, 2011, 02:28:10 PM »

and i love the way germans celebrate mass. it's so solemn.

quite.

groÃŸer Gott wir loben dich

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Scarb · « **Reply #209 on:** January 20, 2011, 09:50:23 PM »

hala na bibo lagi danhi..dli jod niy maghoman duh..mating fah..

Sa title lang daan..its worth debating na..LoL

dafat.."Why Catholic Church Against Contraceptives" why oh why generalized ang "fam.planning"
..dli man against sa puaZa method, ihapÂ²,kalendar or call it what U want..

Ang C.church naay lagdÃ¤ nga ilang pagasubayon..and its our choice unza imoha tumanon..but-anay ba diay?
..dli nalang ko mopagawas sa akong argumentoz ky hagoo na..! ^_^

chigi biraa pa..i enjoy reading

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #210 on:** January 22, 2011, 03:06:21 AM »

COMMERCIAL!!!

CHRISTIANOS nangutana ngadto sa usa ka Muslim...

CHRISTIANOS: AKI! Ngano ALAH man ang tawag sa inyong ginoo?

MUSLIM: Nagpanglingi kong naa bai laing Muslim makakita or makadungog sa iyang tubag, ug miingon. Tungod kai ALAH nganin kami!

Mi ingon ang PARI, ang ginoo ma ana-a kaninyo....ug mitubag sad ang mga katawhan, ma ana-a usab kanimo....

Ug miingon ang MUSLIM, Tua! ila nang GIPASA PASA ang ilang ginoo!

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #211 on:** January 22, 2011, 04:16:40 AM »

hala na bibo lagi danhi..dli jod niy maghoman duh..mating fah..

Sa title lang daan..its worth debating na..LoL

dafat.."Why Catholic Church Against Contraceptives" why oh why generalized ang "fam.planning"
..dli man against sa puaZa method, ihapÂ²,kalendar or call it what U want..

Ang C.church naay lagdÃ¤ nga ilang pagasubayon..and its our choice unza imoha tumanon..but-anay ba diay?
..dli nalang ko mopagawas sa akong argumentoz ky hagoo na..! ^_^

chigi biraa pa..i enjoy reading

zip your mouth girl kay ma lampurnaz na sad ka! ahahahha

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #212 on:** January 22, 2011, 04:18:01 AM »

Christian mantra: do as I say not as I do.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #213 on:** January 22, 2011, 10:28:42 AM »

hala na bibo lagi danhi..dli jod niy maghoman duh..mating fah..

...

chigi biraa pa..i enjoy reading

Bitaw, hala bira! (He he, nindot ning tig-abiba ra ta...)

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #214 on:** January 22, 2011, 10:31:18 AM »

Mi ingon ang PARI, ang ginoo ma ana-a kaninyo....ug mitubag sad ang mga katawhan, ma ana-a usab kanimo....

Ug miingon ang MUSLIM, Tua! ila nang GIPASA PASA ang ilang ginoo!

Dayon dihay iyang gipangutana: "Unsa man nang inyong ginoo, igso, volleyball?"

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #215 on:** January 22, 2011, 10:34:49 AM »

Christian mantra: do as I say not as I do.

Pari: Do as I say not as I do.
Parokyano: Unsaon man ni, Pads, nga gusto man kong mo-do as you do.
Pari: Aw, basta pangita lag imo. Ajaw hilabti ang akoa!

Bwahaha!

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #216 on:** January 22, 2011, 01:43:52 PM »

Pari: Do as I say not as I do.
Parokyano: Unsaon man ni, Pads, nga gusto man kong mo-do as you do.
Pari: Aw, basta pangita lag imo. Ajaw hilabti ang akoa!

Bwahaha!

Hubag, repent your sin!!!

(tawon si Hubag namintal sa ija atop pagka ugma) hahahahahhaa! joke gikan ni Chico...

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #217 on:** January 22, 2011, 02:09:34 PM »

Hubag, repent your sin!!!

(tawon si Hubag namintal sa ija atop pagka ugma) hahahahahhaa! joke gikan ni Chico...

Dia ra ko, nagpenitensya na...

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #218 on:** January 23, 2011, 07:13:25 AM »

Dia ra ko, nagpenitensya na...

hahahhaha! maajo jud ka mangita ug hulagway Hubag!!!

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aquarius · « **Reply #219 on:** January 23, 2011, 07:38:28 AM »

Pari: Do as I say not as I do.
Parokyano: Unsaon man ni, Pads, nga gusto man kong mo-do as you do.
Pari: Aw, basta pangita lag imo. Ajaw hilabti ang akoa!

Bwahaha!

..! aw abi nako moingon ang pari bay hubs... "magpari usa ka..!" hehehe... peace.. peace..!

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #220 on:** January 23, 2011, 09:15:03 AM »

..! aw abi nako moingon ang pari bay hubs... "magpari usa ka..!" hehehe... peace.. peace..!

He he, mao na lang ni ang estorya: Kanang imong giingon, Bay Aqs, mao nay normal nga itubag sa pari, pero sa case aning parokyanoha, giklaro sa pari kay morag nakamatikod siya nga interesado ang kanahang parokyano sa iyang gikulukadidang!

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #221 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:31:43 PM »

na foreseen na sa pari nga naa na shay kompitensha??? hahahhaa! peace! peace! hahahaha

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #222 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:00:30 PM »

na foreseen na sa pari nga naa na shay kompitensha??? hahahhaa! peace! peace! hahahaha

He he, pari gud, medyo trained nga molantaw sa umaabot...

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islander · « **Reply #223 on:** January 23, 2011, 10:26:54 PM »

He he, pari gud, medyo trained nga molantaw sa umaabot...

morag malantaw pod nila ang mga mangingilad, mao nga they can give a storm warning. malas ang mga erehes.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #224 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:00:13 PM »

morag malantaw pod nila ang mga mangingilad, mao nga they can give a storm warning. malas ang mga erehes.

Malantaw pud nila ang ilang kaugalingon...

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