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« on: September 03, 2007, 12:21:53 AM »


One has to be selfish before he could be selfless...

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2007, 12:24:26 PM »

Natural man jud na pre, for a person to be selfish--kai gusto man jud na ang tao--anyone--in any society and in any time--to get something to benefit him/herself so as to propel him/herself in his/her society, diba? Kinsa man dili gusto maka profit--or maka succeed? Kinsa man gusto ma poordoy sa kalingaw? Human nature man na, in my opinion.

It is the concept of human morality and ethics--when a person chooses to repress his selfish needs and instead of caring for himself first---considers the people and society around him as prime directive.

@ Frank. Good point--and I do agree, there are ALOT of people out there that only live for 'ME/ MYSELF/ I'. I personally abhor people with those kinds of attitudes and ethos, as I've come into contact with many in my life, already.

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2007, 12:54:05 PM »

Good that you cleared what you meant--I interpretted what you said differently. Sill, tho, good points.

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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2007, 09:16:14 PM »
the trouble with words is that we tend to use them in a way to fit our own agenda.. i think we should act out how we want our words to mean... that way there will be no confusion. :)
I'm gonna take my cross and carry it... heck! I'm even gonna dance while i'm doing it!

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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2007, 12:37:02 AM »


it is like.... you cannot love others or give love to others if you don't love yourself first...

how would others believe you that what you are displaying where in fact you are not advocating it?....

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 12:21:29 AM »


yes, what an outsider's impression on us is not a factor... it is how our heart dictates...

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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2007, 12:38:41 AM »

It really doesn't matter what people will say about you as long as deep in our hearts, we know what we do is right and is for the common good of every one.

Being selfish to oneself is being selfless.

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2007, 12:44:54 AM »


yes ginger, we have to fill in our needs first before we could successfully fill the needs of  others...

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 12:02:41 AM »


in our present lives YOU CANNOT BE A DEVOTED GIVER IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GIVE.... hence, you need to fill in first yourself and when its up and won't overflow you give it to others...

it you talk about sainthood... only few are destined to be like them and they're exceptional... there times were of  different from today... and the factors confronting it also follows... hence, that sense of meeting own needs is selfishness but it is not the "extremities that we've thought of"....

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2007, 12:09:28 AM »
^ Well said.

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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2007, 02:00:43 AM »
Sometimes I'm selfish, if I don't have enough to share. Sometimes I'm selfless too, I give what I have to others even if theres nothing left for me..

Ang pagka selfish ug selfless sa tawo, para nako, depende kung unsang butanga ang iyang gi share ug wala gi share.
"There's no perfect life, but we can let God fill it with perfect moments"

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2007, 05:46:26 PM »


am with you Franklin, taking care of ourselves is our foremost priority because it is a manifestation of loving oneself... the issue is we cannot be effective in selflessness if we haven't gone through the process of loving oneself, one family first....

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2007, 12:32:25 AM »


mao nga dili effective ang preach sa uban o magpasunod kon tan-awon ilang kaugalingon nga wala man gani magsunod sa iyang gipanudlo.....

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2007, 01:39:07 AM »

mao na giingon, practice what you preach.

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2007, 01:40:21 AM »


but there are circumstances baya nga dili maperfect....

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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2007, 01:42:16 AM »

adto na pud ta sa, no one is perfect...hehehe

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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2007, 01:43:18 AM »
mao nay giingon nga, follow what I said, but don't follow what I did.

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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2007, 01:43:51 AM »

it is really getting into the vicious cycle of being human....hence, we have to capitalize the good and noble ones....

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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2007, 01:51:52 AM »

diba sir, ingon pa gani ka nga we have to multiply the good ones...btw, hero na ka sir...

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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2007, 01:59:33 AM »


it's YOU guys / gals in TB that made a HERO member...for without YOU all, I would never felt the essence of my presence here....



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