MikeLigalig.com

why not draft a letter to Mr. R. Palapos and ask/demand an explanation which could be published here (TB). can't we do it on behalf of those aggrieved costumers of ICM raffle?

That´s a very good idea, why don´t you compose one?

Manay

by the way, do the people still need it?

we can ask renegade about it. i think that's what they demanded.

They should explain to the public the change of schedule and an apology is proper. Dili ni  nato palabyon kay luoy ang mga nanogbong aron maka tambong sa maingon nga raffle draw.

Renegade, pls tell your opinion and pls be objective this time.  Is it okay for the Forum members to use the name of TB and all members, basin adunay moreklamo. We can use  the term concerned group/Bol-anon customers? I need your feedback because I´m outside Bohol.

Manay

TB is fine.

what did dti do?

to use name of TB ...

i have asked my uncle bout this and he said na nitubag nadaw man ang alturas sa radio bout ana and dha daw pod dti during sa draw....ambot oi....

welcome to tb voda! unsa man daw ingun ni mario?

dont know na actually what happened.

on my opinion, skip lang ta using the name of TB.  let's just say " concerned consumers " lang ta.

that if you would ask me if gamiton nato ang TB regarding these matters. daghan man gud members. nya basin samukan ang uban or di ganahan ma involve.

just post here whatever consensus may agrihan sa kadaghanan.

kampai

Quote from: glacier_71 on January 20, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
by the way, do the people still need it?

we can give the pipol some sympathy by encouraging the other part to do an apology.

the pipol deserves it.

no prob for me renegade, makig kampai sad ko apil!

Anyone who could provide me with the proper name and address, I will make the letter myself and have it posted from Germany, I will print the content here. You can print and fax it to them so they will be aware that there are concerned Bol-anons, local and abroad nga dili mag pa bugal-bugal. Some consumers hoped so much from this contests. If you wish they have suggestion boxes, you can put it there too.
Let us show solidarity with the local Sano/Sana.  Consumers should be respected. If we don´t do it now, there will be more irregularities to come.

go for it ate hofelina. im in.

lako kabalo man...d sad ko ganahan ask ako uncle kay strikto man ng mga taga media....bata pa daw ko..d daw ko maglabotlabot...

Go Go Manay Tess!!!

(Electric fan man gihapun ko run)

Palihug sa mga na kahibalo, per Personal message nako or better through tewilms@aol.com, I culd compose my letter soon and mail it. Salamat jamo.

Manay

Mr. Loy Palapos is the PR and marketing manager of the Alturas Group of Companies that covers all entities owned by the company such as Alturas Dept Store, Plaza Marcela and ICM.

mao kini mam

Quote from: hofelina on January 21, 2009, 07:14:02 PM
Anyone who could provide me with the proper name and address, I will make the letter myself and have it posted from Germany, I will print the content here. You can print and fax it to them so they will be aware that there are concerned Bol-anons, local and abroad nga dili mag pa bugal-bugal. Some consumers hoped so much from this contests. If you wish they have suggestion boxes, you can put it there too.
Let us show solidarity with the local Sano/Sana.  Consumers should be respected. If we don´t do it now, there will be more irregularities to come.

Largin Manay!

mas duol na jud na sa media kay murag naay column sa bohol chronicle si loy palapos.

Maybe you can also ask El Mundo.

paggama na manay, kay maayo ka ani.

I think an email will also do, who could give to me the email address per Personal Message or my email address if you don´t want to be exposed! Palihug.
I want to have the Gen Manager, Pub Relations officer or someone responsible for media.

salamat,

Manay

manay tess, pwede nimu i-email ang ato message sa bohol chronicle. just visit their website.

I feel funny, after all the noise, I´m not getting any feedback. Thanks Calles your suggestions is a sound idea.

manay

daghang tawo ganahan lang ug lalis pero inig gama na ug action, wala na.

Quote from: hofelina on January 23, 2009, 05:48:26 AM
I think an email will also do, who could give to me the email address per Personal Message or my email address if you don´t want to be exposed! Palihug.
I want to have the Gen Manager, Pub Relations officer or someone responsible for media.

salamat,

Manay

unsay pasabot nimong nga email, manay? among personal? sorry wa ko ka-gets. i-PM kono.

Mga higala, mao kini ang dagway sa akong sulat ug ako magpasalamat kang Inday Ayessa ug Glacier kay nitabang sila ug edit. I want to hear your feedbacks and if you wish you could copy and print this and put in their suggestion boxes or for a  laugh you could give one to Bohol Quality 


Dear Sir,

I would like to express my feelings of disappointment  as a Bol-anon residing outside the country  to the ICM establishments 
I was informed  that the last  Raffle draw of the Island City Mall was not in accordance to the date as stated in the raffle ticket. It was held 4 January, 2009 instead of 6 January 2009.
The whole event might be trivial to you, or it might not be even important to you, but to some poor Bol-anons winning means something to hold on as  a ray of hope for  this bitter times of  hardships.
I could have just  enjoy my favorite meal, sit comfortably in my flat  and forget the whole thing but I sympathised with my fellow Bol-anon who don´t get the nerve or chance to bring their voice of disgust.
I deem it proper that the ICM establishments  give a written apology to their  loyal customers.

very truly yours,


Tessie  Bertumen Wilms
Bol-anon sa Germany
Boholhilfe e. V.

Manay Tess

Mike, Sorry, just couldnt help answering Grazies input. I've been away so I could only read it now.

Grazie wrote:

Did it become a big deal only when you said something, Spiderman?  Believe me, it wasn't you, Spiderman.  But you are cute. hehehe

My reply:

Thank you Grazie. You are cute as well.:-) You know me, right? I've been here a long time and I'm often in the admins side in helping you "fight" for those who violated the rules. Yes, You know that. But in the case of renegade, common sense tells us not to reprimand someone in his midst of erupting a volcano of anger. What we could do at that time was to show our sympathy to him not reprimand him for using all caps.

So. what I did was agreed to what glacier wrote. When I see something wrong. I just couldnt shut up. and in TB we have freedom of speech as long as we dont abuse it.
Did I abuse the TB rules by agreeing Glacier and asking the said admin if maybe next time they can send a PM instead?

Nope.

Yes, it has become a big deal when Spiderman speaks because the admin thought she know me. And so kiamoy starts tracking spiderman as if he is a criminal. How ridiculous!
So what if Spderman is a fairy or a bird? So what if Spiderman is using another username?
What more, your co admin have to padlock the said topic stopping other members to post their inputs too. Do you think that's right?

So an admin can padlock a topic as she pleases? because she doesnt like the person who post there?

And not only once but twice.

I know it was not you who padlock the topic so I am not disappointed at you. But I have to express my opinion here.

Yes, no one is perfect but justice must be served.

Cheers!

Ondoy Spiderman,
Unsa man ang imong ikasulti sa akong sulat, naka oyon ka o dili?

Manay

Quote from: hofelina on January 25, 2009, 06:11:56 PM
Mga higala, mao kini ang dagway sa akong sulat ug ako magpasalamat kang Inday Ayessa ug Glacier kay nitabang sila ug edit. I want to hear your feedbacks and if you wish you could copy and print this and put in their suggestion boxes or for a  laugh you could give one to Bohol Quality 


Dear Sir,

I would like to express my feelings of disappointment  as a Bol-anon residing outside the country  to the ICM establishments 
I was informed  that the last  Raffle draw of the Island City Mall was not in accordance to the date as stated in the raffle ticket. It was held 4 January, 2009 instead of 6 January 2009.
The whole event might be trivial to you, or it might not be even important to you, but to some poor Bol-anons winning means something to hold on as  a ray of hope for  this bitter times of  hardships.
I could have just  enjoy my favorite meal, sit comfortably in my flat  and forget the whole thing but I sympathised with my fellow Bol-anon who don´t get the nerve or chance to bring their voice of disgust.
I deem it proper that the ICM establishments  give a written apology to their  loyal customers.

very truly yours,


Tessie  Bertumen Wilms
Bol-anon sa Germany
Boholhilfe e. V.

Manay Tess

Manay, mag tagsa-tagsa ta'g suwat?  Unya nko mo ambit kay naa pa koy gi atiman dinalian kaayo.  Balik ra ko. 

Many Tess,


Maayo ang pagkasulat pero mas powerful ang dating kung daghan ang mopirma ug magkahiusa ang mga TB members.

Naa may mga abogado ug mga influential people pod nga membro dires TB ug mismo ang founder sa TB nga si Michael Ligalig pwede niya ni isulat ang complain sa iyang column sa the Sunday post.

Kon tinood man gani ning gisubay ni renegade nga giusab ang date without informing the public, dili na gayod na sakto.

pero mao lagi..ang mga dato (dili nuon tanan) sa atoa wa naman nay silay pakialam kon unsay bation sa ubang nilalang nga para nila morag umigas nga pwede ra tumban anytime.

Quote from: hofelina on January 25, 2009, 06:48:13 PM
Ondoy Spiderman,
Unsa man ang imong ikasulti sa akong sulat, naka oyon ka o dili?

Manay

Yes Manay, this is the best way. E-mail our complains to Bohol chronicle or to other newspapers in Bohol.

Quote from: calle on January 23, 2009, 01:35:20 PM
manay tess, pwede nimu i-email ang ato message sa bohol chronicle. just visit their website.

Thanks for the reply Spiderman, I think you are right nga ang mga gagmay tamak-tamakan lamang, busa akong gihimo kining sulata, and interesado kopyahon lang ug ibutang/submit sa ilang complain desk ,please let us show our solidarity with our paisano/paisana. Mas daghan mas nindot. Mahimo pod nga inyong i-print ug pangolekta ug pirma bag-o i-submit. What we are doing is not unlawful so pls don´t hesitate.  Salamat.
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so your letter might look like this

Dear Sir,

I would like to express my feelings of disappointment  as a Bol-anon residing outside the country  to the ICM establishments
I was informed  that the last  Raffle draw of the Island City Mall was not in accordance to the date as stated in the raffle ticket. It was held 4 January, 2009 instead of 6 January 2009.
The whole event might be trivial to you, or it might not be even important to you, but to some poor Bol-anons winning means something to hold on as  a ray of hope for  this bitter times of  hardships.
I sympathised with my fellow Bol-anon who don´t get the nerve or chance to bring their voice of disgust.
I deem it proper that the ICM establishments  give a written apology to their  loyal customers.

very truly yours,

concerned consumer

Bitaw Manay, sakto gyod ka. I admire you for doing this action kay mao gyod niy nakulang as atoa ang solidarity. Kon permi palang unta magkahiusa ang mga Filipino dugay ra unta nga nangawala nang mga corrupt nga politicians.

Sigi kay ako sab ni kopyahon imong sulat. Good work Manay. Thanks!

"Kampai!"

Kinsa gani nag sugod aning word nga KAMPAI? kay akong tagaan ug premyo nga usa ka sakong tinagaktak ug usa na family size nga Tru orange?

hahahahha

(sagulan lagi daun ug hinangal!  sorry nag ligid2x man gud ko diri ug kinatawa anang word nga kampai)

Quote from: ms da binsi on January 26, 2009, 07:16:56 AM
Kinsa gani nag sugod aning word nga KAMPAI? kay akong tagaan ug premyo nga usa ka sakong tinagaktak ug usa na family size nga Tru orange?

hahahahha

(sagulan lagi daun ug hinangal!  sorry nag ligid2x man gud ko diri ug kinatawa anang word nga kampai)

kanang imong gilingkoran maoy imong giligidligiran, da bins?

sus tua na sad ka! hahaha

Re: ICM Raffle Draw Hysteria
« Reply #120 on: January 22, 2009, 08:23:13 AM » Quote 

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mas duol na jud

Bay, maybe it would help. Maybe it woudnt.

Loy Palapos is the current HRD at the Alturas Group of Companies and thus is connected with Plaza Marcela, Krislyn and Island City Mall.

If we write to him, which is correct, he could do only two things: 1 get personal about it as it would be considered an affront of 2: agree with us but still shoot our letter right to the trash bin.

Re: ICM Raffle Draw Hysteria
« Reply #97 on: January 19, 2009, 09:39:28 AM » Quote 

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does ICM have a public relations officer?

Fact is, it has. Ariel Fullido and Loreto "Loy" Palapos.

But they should have already written the apology, should they be up on their jobs. I smell a cover up here.

Quote from: apocarthinic on January 26, 2009, 10:26:40 AM
Re: ICM Raffle Draw Hysteria
« Reply #97 on: January 19, 2009, 09:39:28 AM » Quote 

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does ICM have a public relations officer?

Fact is, it has. Ariel Fullido and Loreto "Loy" Palapos.

But they should have already written the apology, should they be up on their jobs. I smell a cover up here.

sending a letter for them won't be too bad after all, i think. maybe to the media or radio.

If we write to him, which is correct, he could do only two things: 1 get personal about it as it would be considered an affront of 2: agree with us but still shoot our letter right to the trash bin.

If everyone submits a letter or collect signatures bisan tag 10 kada page, it might take his attention that there are really concerned sectors. I won´t subscribe to the above amigo because I know the power of letter writing and collections of signatures being an active member of Amnesty International. Bohol pa ni, raffle draw ra ang atong reklamo, kon managhi-usa kita ug ubay ubay ang mamirma, makahinung sila, plus we could make follow-up.
My advice never mention Tubag Bohol because this is a neutral Forum, the idea came here and what we are doing is  not Mike´s business. He has granted us a venue and I´m personally thankful for this.

Manay

hope nga madali ni nga proposed letter kay basin mapan-us na ang atong pagpakabana ini nga hitaboa.

Pan-us na ni nga issue. Too late.

There is no such pan-os kabahin aning mga butanga...

Reminder na sad ni nila sa ilang gibuhat...(kun gani bahaw na ni)

kaw na lang himo mdb.

Von:    tewilms@aol.com
An:    editor@boholchronicle.com
Thema:    Raffle draw in ICM last 4 January 2009
Datum:    Mo., 26. Jan. 2009, 12:26
Dear Sir,

I would like to express my feelings of disappointment  as a Bol-anon residing outside the country  to the ICM establishments
I was informed  that the last  Raffle draw of the Island City Mall was not in accordance to the date as stated in the raffle ticket. It was held 4 January, 2009 instead of 6 January 2009.
The whole event might be trivial to you, or it might not be even important to you, but to some poor Bol-anons winning means something to hold on as  a ray of hope for  this bitter times of  hardships.
I could have just  enjoy my favorite meal, sit comfortably in my flat  and forget the whole thing but I sympathised with my fellow Bol-anon who don´t get the nerve or chance to bring their voice of disgust.
I deem it proper that the ICM establishments  give a written apology to their  loyal customers.

very truly yours,


Tessie  Bertumen Wilms
Bol-anon sa Germany
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an email is send to the editors of the Bohol Chronicle, if  ever they respond this Forum will be informed, thanks for doubting this actions.

Quote from: Dot (.) on January 27, 2009, 11:59:57 AM

Pan-us na ni nga issue. Too late.

bitaw. pan us na jud.

but does a cadaver who stayed 3 weeks at a funeral home and nobody  claims it smells better than this issue?


curious lng ko.  " kampai "  ( cheers )

Quote from: hofelina on January 27, 2009, 03:26:51 PM
Von:    tewilms@aol.com
An:    editor@boholchronicle.com
Thema:    Raffle draw in ICM last 4 January 2009
Datum:    Mo., 26. Jan. 2009, 12:26
Dear Sir,

I would like to express my feelings of disappointment  as a Bol-anon residing outside the country  to the ICM establishments
I was informed  that the last  Raffle draw of the Island City Mall was not in accordance to the date as stated in the raffle ticket. It was held 4 January, 2009 instead of 6 January 2009.
The whole event might be trivial to you, or it might not be even important to you, but to some poor Bol-anons winning means something to hold on as  a ray of hope for  this bitter times of  hardships.
I could have just  enjoy my favorite meal, sit comfortably in my flat  and forget the whole thing but I sympathised with my fellow Bol-anon who don´t get the nerve or chance to bring their voice of disgust.
I deem it proper that the ICM establishments  give a written apology to their  loyal customers.

very truly yours,


Tessie  Bertumen Wilms
Bol-anon sa Germany


Sgd. " renegade "
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an email is send to the editors of the Bohol Chronicle, if  ever they respond this Forum will be informed, thanks for doubting this actions.

bahalag pan-us o dili, importante naay gihimo.

kudos manay!

ang importante nagpakabana!

Salamat, Manay, for facilitating in expressing our sentiments.  Sana lang magpakabana ang taga ICM pod.

unsa na may update ngari?

la na?

kaingun pud kog na kay update renegade.

basta napada na ni manay tess. im not sure if naprint na ba sa bohol chronicle.

mga naas bohol, naprint na?

Oi basig gituwa na nila sa shredder!

wa na tingali balita si renegade

Mga Higala,

I´m not getting any feedbacks not from the email address I used. I can´t avail of Bohol Chronicle, I wished I was given some back ups, had you written the same to the Bohol Chronicle, so they  would be aware that this is not  a one man crusade.
Okay, at least you have seen the result, meaning nothing, but if there will be some irregularities, we keep our eyes wide open.

Manay

Manay i can call the Chronicle if they got your email...would you want me to do it?

Hallo Indayon,

Please do that, I would be glad to, if possible don´t  mention our Tubag Bohol Forum. God Bless.

Manay

ps
tan-awa palihug ang date sa akong email nila , basin moingon sila wala sila kadawat kay mahimo nako i-resent.

Ok i will. i will let you know...

pangutana pod, da bins, og ga-sale ba sila og kaldero LOL...

Akong nahibal-an sale ug condom buy one take 3, valentines special offer!



Love is in the air!

naunsa na mdb?

Quote from: hofelina on February 05, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
Mga Higala,

I´m not getting any feedbacks not from the email address I used. I can´t avail of Bohol Chronicle, I wished I was given some back ups, had you written the same to the Bohol Chronicle, so they  would be aware that this is not  a one man crusade.
Okay, at least you have seen the result, meaning nothing, but if there will be some irregularities, we keep our eyes wide open.

Manay

Manay, I also sent email so basin busy pa sila wa pa natagai ug panahon.  Let's see.

get me a copy sa email, basig makapasulod pod ko. si Mike kay hari-hari man tos BC niadto, basig mada rag siyay singka?

Dear Ondoy Rey,

In this thread please look at page 19, there you will see my email and page 20 you will see a template which I suggest for those who are interested to mail it themselves.
Good luck.

Manay

Manay di jud ko kakita sa Contact sa Bohol Chronicle.

Mga Higala, kinsa man naka balo sa number sa Chronicle? di jud makita sa ilang link ang number...

Ay ayaw nalang kay nakita na nako!

Ay nanira na daw! hahahha magkatawa ko!

motawag ko utro unja!

Maricel daw ang ngalan sa tig dawat sa email...

Taympa ngano man nga DYRD man ang naka receive sa akong call? hahahah

Manay, mashu-ang ko! ako nalang giingnan  nga i didikit nalang ko diha...

ang DYRD ug Bohol Chronicle, da bins, pareho ra man tingali og tag-iya.

kaluoy sa para tubag sa telepono

mga dejaresco ra man siguro ang tag-iya sa DYRD ug Bohol Chronicle.

Sakto diay ka bnc kay and Bohol Chronicle  si Jun Dejaresco and nagdala.

unsa na may update sa tawag ni da bins, manay?

Aambot, kay bungol tingali ang nakadawat! ha ha ha, Inday Belle,tubaga palihug.

Glace ning tawag ko ganihang buntag, unja ang nakatubag Gilbert man to sa DYRB. Ingon sha nga off na daw si Maricel (ang tig dawat sa mga emails) kay past 5 PM naman daw tong pag tawag nako...

Pero ako jud to tawagon ug maka palit ko ug phone card kay out of town man mi karon...mangita ko ug phone card, i hope di sila mo ingon nga serado man mi kay sabado! shalan!!!

Kinahanglan adunay follow-up. Maghimo ta ug signature collections ug atong i pasa sa ICM management. Unsa man inyong ikasulti?

Sure unsaon man nato i fax? naa kuy fax and i can fax to  anywhere too...

Sa sunod nga miting sa Bol-anon group akong isaysay, ug ako tingli nga i fax pod.

could i get a copy sa Letter to the Editor?

Basig mada ra nakog papatik sa Chronicle or any other paper dri?

I guess si Mike can bully his way sad sa Chronicle kay hari-hari man na xa didto niadto.

Fax nako: (038) 501 8554

apo, nay copy ini nga thread and letter ni manay tess.

e-post nalang pud sa PIA kung pwede aron maaghat sila ug reply.

Saksto ka BNC, if PIA serves the community, this is a very good idea. Apo anong say mo?

Manay

will try a backdoor approach Manay. Kon dili mada, id bully the BChamber of Commerce and Industry to initiate a move, them the papers can follow suit kon wala jud action. 

nanglimbawt ako balhibo ninjo! GO GO GO manay and apo!

Yehey apothecary, you build me up, magsakit akong dughan ma-imagine nako mga pobre nga mamalit naggunit ug stubs, unya maminghoy. Pila ra gud ang ilang kalipay? Malipay man gani ko kon makadaog bisan ballpen!

Kudos!

Thanks Manay and thanks all.  It lifts my spirit that in this kind of society that we live in, there are still some people like you who feels the same way as I do.

again, Kudos Manay, Kudos Apo, and Kudos to all!

to Manay and Apo...bilib ko ninyo.

same here.

aishitemasu

Here, there and everywhere! Kudos!

Kudos is one of those words like congeries that look like plurals but are etymologically singular. Acknowledging the Greek history of the term requires Kudos is (not are) due her for her brilliant work on the score. But kudos has often been treated as a plural, especially in the popular press, as in She received many kudos for her work. This plural use has given rise to the singular form kudo. These innovations follow the pattern whereby the English words pea and cherry were shortened from nouns ending in an (s) sound (English pease and French cerise), that were mistakenly thought to be plural. The singular kudo remains far less common than the plural use; both are often viewed as incorrect in more formal contexts. • It is worth noting that even people who are careful to treat kudos only as a singular often pronounce it as if it were a plural. Etymology would require that the final consonant be pronounced as a voiceless (s), as we do in pathos, another word derived from Greek, rather than as a voiced (z).

Kudos to you, BNC

Naunsa! All along, I thought "kudos" is a Visayan term. Now I know.

Kudos to all of you!

Salamat, Ray, for educating us what Kudos is. 

Sa man ni Calle wa man lagi ni na apil sa atong pag google ba na abtik man unta ta mang google! 

kay kaingun man jud ko nga bisaya na! ahak oi. nakaipsot.

kudos natong tanan.

and the way dili to sa google nakuha. sa answers.com ang online encyclopedia.

a, mao diay. mas paspas man gud sa google. efficient ila web crawler.

universal search engine ang google.

For me I always spend much at ICM and BQ and do I ever win a thing? No! but I have learned that it is best to hatag ang raffle tickets two-three days before any draw at the malls mostly in the prelimanary monthly draws before the final grand draw.

As for looking into this matter Nah! That kind of stuff never happens and besides it is done already and lets face the truth and the facts many things are done wrong and they are all not questiond and if it is it gets about one hour or a days attention on the radio just so long as it does not deal with controversal church issues and tourism issues that happen here when tourist are innocently killed due to Filipinos who do not check to make sure that the right gear is safe for diving trips or that resorts have life guards at their pools.. ETC ETC.
Those matters will be and are known to be white washed issues.
Just like this ICM event was and has died off already a long time ago due to ICM advertizements being in the media here bet you did not hear much of a peep from those media working for outlets with ICM as a sponsor.