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Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« on: April 30, 2011, 08:10:52 PM »
The messenger of Allah said: "Islam is to testify that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, to perform the prayers, to pay the zakat, to fast in Ramadan, and to make the pilgrimage to the House if you are able to do so." He said: " You have spoken rightly", Jebreel (Gabriel) from Number 2 of "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths."

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 10:29:41 PM »
If you're a Christian then this strongly go against your doctrine.
It is like oil and water, liquid in form, but can never mix.
This is the same for them as well.
Your faith is your Personal choice.
 To be a believer or non believer.


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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 12:23:49 AM »
If you're a Christian then this strongly go against your doctrine.
It is like oil and water, liquid in form, but can never mix.
This is the same for them as well.
Your faith is your Personal choice.
 To be a believer or non believer.


Tinuod. Pero naa poy di mo disagree hehehe. Meaning, ok lang if they hear such. Many a-times we say the same thing about our personal world view, sometimes, negativity towards others. Why? because we think the world revolves around ourselves, bwahahahaha!!! (Biggest sin of man, PRIDE)  :P

Addendum: I have a good friend who is an atheist, by virtue of being into a non-believer family (nahitabo nga gipanganak sa Praque, the old Czechoslovakia)... he does not believe in any of this (religion).  But mosimba pag Domingo, and, if I have my say, mas Kristiyano pa kaayo siya sa mga nabunyagang Kristiyano hahahaha. Saonz  :P



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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 12:44:41 AM »
sa akong pagsabot, pareho lang. Kaya lang nagpadala ang Dyos ug bag-ong Propheta sa panahon nga ang mga tao mawala na sa direkyon ang pamoyo, sama inani karon naay RH bill nakaumang nga sa akong tan-aw dautan ang epekto niani sa moralidad sa mga katawhan ug dili malayo nga maingon ta sa mga tao ni Prophete Moises nga pinarusahan ng Dyos dahil sa mga kalaswaan nga ginagawa noon. Pero may gibilin sa mga tao na iyon at ito nga ang mga Judyo/Judaism (Jews) / Israelitas.


Abrahamic Religions:
1. Judaism (Moises)-holy Torah
2. Christianity (Jesus Christ)-holy Bible
3. Islam (Mohammad)-holy Qur'an

(1)Old Testament, Holy Torah (Judaism)
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Si Moises ay nagsabi:
Deuteronomy: 6:5 "Pakinga mo O Israel, Ang Panginoong Diyos ay isang Panginoon, at iyong mahalin ang inyong Panginoon ng boung puso, ng buong kaluluwa at buong lakas.

(2) New Testament, Holy Bible (Christianity)
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Si Jesus ay nagbibigay aral din at nagwikang:
Markus 12:29 "Pakinggan mo O Israel. Ang Panginoon nating Diyos ay Isang Panginoon. At iyong mahalin ang iyong Panginoon Diyos ng buong puso,buong kaluluwa, ng buong isip at ng buong lakas.

(3) Holy Qur'an (Islam)
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Ang Diyos(Allah) ipinahayag kay Propheta Mohammad ang pangunahing utos na ito:
Qur'an 39:11-12 "Ipahayag: ako'y napag-utusang maglingkod sa Diyos ng tapat na Panalangin. At ako ay napag-utusang maging isa sa mga sumusuko ng (buong) sarili sa Diyos.

Sa tingin nyo alin ang naiiba?


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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 05:35:38 AM »
I studied Islam and the Quran in college heavily, was interested in their teachings during the class (i took 4 classes on this). Culturally and historically Islam helped unite a polytheistic and divided Arabian world. There are many tenets of Islam (the hadiths) that I admire, and find similarity in with Chistianity. One example is the muslim concept of Zakkat, which expouses to give 10% of one's earnings to the poor and needy; this is similar to the Christian concept of Tithing, which also mandates giving 10% of one's earnings to the Church.

One thing that I do not agree tho, and this is my own personal opinion, is the idea that Muhammad was a prophet of God. I believe he was a good tactician, and brilliant leader. He unified a divided and polytheistic people on the basis of Judaistic-Christian concept and applied it to the Arab setting.

Reason why I do not believe he (Muhammad) was a prophet is because of the following:

1. There can be no prophet after Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Fulfillment of the Law and the Seal of the Prophets. The Word made Flesh

2. Islam denies the divinity of Jesus Christ. Islam refers to Jesus (ISSA) as a mere prophet and do not recognize the his death on the crucifix.


I respect muslims and admire its effect on the arab world and the cultural-historical dynamic of that region of the world. But I disagree with their teachings and the core teachings on salvation.

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 05:41:28 AM »
The clear and delineating difference:

There is no concept of personal salvation in Islam. Everytime I asked this to the imams and the arab professors in college, their answer was always in reference to the Laws of Islam and in abiding in the Laws.

Islam, like Judaism, is founded on strict adherence on their Laws and living according to the Laws.

In my view, Christianity is unique because Christians have transcended the Law because Christ's coming into the world was the fulfillment of the Law, as He reminds us that living according to the Law reminds us of our sinful nature, and believing in him justifies us from sin. The psychological and spiritual dynamic of Christianity and the concept of Salvation is unique from the other 2 Abrahamic faiths (Islam and Judaism) in that only Christianity has the concept of personal Salvation in Christ.

My view lang.

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 05:50:22 AM »
If you're a Christian then this strongly go against your doctrine.
It is like oil and water, liquid in form, but can never mix.
This is the same for them as well.
Your faith is your Personal choice.
 To be a believer or non believer.


I respect your choice and your decision. If one believes in the teachings of one's faith, then it is really up to that individual to make decision. This is the importance of living up to one's principles. Principles of the faith, as well as principles of standing up to one's belief and defending that belief.

I acquiesce that there are honorable traits in all religious belief systems.

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2011, 05:52:23 AM »
The messenger of Allah said: "Islam is to testify that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, to perform the prayers, to pay the zakat, to fast in Ramadan, and to make the pilgrimage to the House if you are able to do so." He said: " You have spoken rightly", Jebreel (Gabriel) from Number 2 of "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths."

Brother Chris,

Are you a Muslim?

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2011, 06:45:56 AM »
One thing that I do not agree tho, and this is my own personal opinion, is the idea that Muhammad was a prophet of God. I believe he was a good tactician, and brilliant leader. He unified a divided and polytheistic people on the basis of Judaistic-Christian concept and applied it to the Arab setting.

Reason why I do not believe he (Muhammad) was a prophet is because of the following:

1. There can be no prophet after Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Fulfillment of the Law and the Seal of the Prophets. The Word made Flesh

2. Islam denies the divinity of Jesus Christ. Islam refers to Jesus (ISSA) as a mere prophet and do not recognize the his death on the crucifix.


Bran, don't you share in the person of Jesus Christ as priest, prophet and king, by vitue of your baptism? If so, then you must be a priest, prophet and king, too. And so does Mahammadd to the Muslims. (I think)


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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2011, 01:04:10 PM »
muslim man o kristiyano, isa lang ang Diyos nga ginasimba. Dili tanan kristiyano pareho, ug dili tanan muslim pareho. Si Mohammed ay propeta ng Diyos. Ang diperensya, Si Jesus Christ nagatudlo - "love your enemies, how about Islam? An eye for an eye,? Nagtrabaho ko sa middle east for a long time, ug daghan sa muslim didto ang buotan,. But I haven't met a muslim in Philippines that respects Christian way of life.And I have seen Christians respect Muslim way of life.

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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2011, 01:21:37 PM »
muslim man o kristiyano, isa lang ang Diyos nga ginasimba. Dili tanan kristiyano pareho, ug dili tanan muslim pareho. Si Mohammed ay propeta ng Diyos. Ang diperensya, Si Jesus Christ nagatudlo - "love your enemies, how about Islam? An eye for an eye,? Nagtrabaho ko sa middle east for a long time, ug daghan sa muslim didto ang buotan,. But I haven't met a muslim in Philippines that respects Christian way of life.And I have seen Christians respect Muslim way of life.

Di kaha ni reflection sa atong pagka Pilipino (ma Muslim o Kristiyano, ma Tagalog o Bisaya, ma taga syudad o ma taga lungsod) duna niining "crab mentality" who live along the line of "misery loves company?" Morag motto sa 3 Musketeers nga "One for all ug all for one." Hahahaha  ;D


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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2011, 03:29:30 PM »
Sa akong ipinyon,usa ra gayud ang sinugdan pero,kon sa Judaism ang kang moises deli man tanang sakop niya nitoo ni Kristo nga muabot,
hantod paman karon wala man sila motoo ni Jesus Christ.Kadto diay pagkamatay ni Kristo sa krus,diba naa may mabasa nga,bisan pakuno sa pagkabanhaw ni Kristo,daghan pa gihapon ang wala ni too niini.kinsa man tong mga tawahana?Taga israel diba.Ang kadtong nitoo kay gisangyaw man nila ang nasaksiyan,Naa poy basa nato nga niingon ang Ginoo isangyaw sa tibook kalibutan ang nasaksihan,sa iya daw yutang natawhan sinalikway ang DIOS.Niadtong panahona nga hari sa kalibutan ang mga Romans.
Og atong pod makomparar kon mag hisgot ta og prophet,Jesus Christ og MOhammad.Makita nato nga si Jesus Christ naa tanang kaayo isip usa ka prophet.Si mohammad unsa naa niya?Naa ba diay prophet na warrior?
Ang bible is complate naa tanan diha polong sa GINOO,kon imong basahon tanan diha sa BIBLE unya imong e comparar sa Quaran layo ra kaayo.opposite kaayo,usa pa sa quaran imong mabantayan nga gi insert si mohammad imbes kay si Jesus Christ,ngano anak ba sa Ginoo SI mohammad?deli diba?,,moingon ang muslim bible daw usa raka diary sa karaang panahon maoy ilang pag too,quaran daw maoy sakto,gikan daw ni ALLAH..Ang balaang kasulatan gikan sa GINOO sinulat sa mga balaang tawo,giniyahan sa espirito santo..Pagkamatay ni mohammad modagan pa og pila ka mga tuig usa pa masulat ang Quaran,na sa ato pa deli jod gikan mohammad kadtong rang mga sumosunod niya.,
Ang uyuan daw ni mohammad usa ka paring katoliko iyang gipatay.
Kon tinood ba ang Quaran,naay makita nga orihinal nga suwat,,pero ang BIBLE naa guyd orihinal,imo daw makita sa british museum og sa Rome museum.ang mga muslim nag too nga ang GINOO ilang gisimba maoy tinood deli parehas sa mga christian.,dako kaayong sukwahi sa christian,kay Love your enemy man sa ilaha patyon mao sugo di mohammad,kinsay mosopak patyon.Gitagna man daan sa kasulatan nga moabot gyud ang higayon na matunga ang pagtoo sa kalibutan pero sa ingon ni ana deli gyud maguba og patumpag ang simbahan na iyang gitokod,Kitang tawo gisukod gyud og unsa ka lig on atong pagtoo..

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2011, 03:30:49 PM »
Brother Chris,

Are you a Muslim?

deli sir oi,,

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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2011, 06:11:00 PM »
Bran, don't you share in the person of Jesus Christ as priest, prophet and king, by vitue of your baptism? If so, then you must be a priest, prophet and king, too. And so does Mahammadd to the Muslims. (I think)


I deign to add , Fr. Roel, that the Christian concept and belief of Christ's Sonship to God The Father is not necessarily shared in the Islamic belief system. More importantly, unlike Christans who regard Christ as God the Son, an integral member of the Trinitarian view of The Lord God, the muslims reject that view wholeheartedly.

In fact, it is an integral aspect within Islam to teach other muslima that Jesus Christ is Not God's Son. Muslims and the Q'uran reject the notion of Christ's divinity and saving power.

This is specifically seen in Surah 19:88-95,

"And they say: The Beneficent God has taken (to Himself) a son. Certainly you have made an abominable assertion The heavens may almost be rent thereat, and the earth cleave asunder, and the mountains fall down in pieces, That they ascribe a son to the Beneficent God. And it is not worthy of the Beneficent God that He should take (to Himself) a son. There is no one in the heavens and the earth but will come to the Beneficent God as a servant. Certainly He has a comprehensive knowledge of them and He has numbered them a (comprehensive) numbering. And every one of them will come to Him on the day of resurrection alone.

Islam also denies that Jesus Christ suffered, and died on the Cross for our sins. So, according to Islam, none of us are saved because Jesus Christ did not die on the Cross, which was integral for the Salvation of all sins.

This is seen in Surah 4: 157,

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.


If we follow and refer to Catholic and Christian Scripture, we cannot help but remember the verse from Matthew Chapter 10 verse 32-33,

32 So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, 33 but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.

again, Christ reminds us that He is the way to Salvation. In Him there is salvation, outside of Him, there is nothing. Those who do not believe in Christ will die in their sins. Our Risen Lord, Jesus Christ tells us this in John Chapter 8 verses 23 to  30,


23 And Jesus said unto  them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” 25 So they said to him, “Who are you?” Jesus said to them, “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning. 26 I have much to say about you and much to judge, but he who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from him.” 27 They did not understand that he had been speaking to them about the Father. 28 So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me. 29 And he who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to him.” 30 As he was saying these things, many believed in him.


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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2011, 06:11:01 PM »
basta i am a proud muslim even if i practice catholicism :-)

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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2011, 06:16:20 PM »
basta i am a proud muslim even if i practice catholicism :-)

Your Sulu blood is strong, Anne. :)

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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2011, 06:28:13 PM »
Sa akong ipinyon,usa ra gayud ang sinugdan pero,kon sa Judaism ang kang moises deli man tanang sakop niya nitoo ni Kristo nga muabot,
hantod paman karon wala man sila motoo ni Jesus Christ.Kadto diay pagkamatay ni Kristo sa krus,diba naa may mabasa nga,bisan pakuno sa pagkabanhaw ni Kristo,daghan pa gihapon ang wala ni too niini.kinsa man tong mga tawahana?Taga israel diba.Ang kadtong nitoo kay gisangyaw man nila ang nasaksiyan,Naa poy basa nato nga niingon ang Ginoo isangyaw sa tibook kalibutan ang nasaksihan,sa iya daw yutang natawhan sinalikway ang DIOS.Niadtong panahona nga hari sa kalibutan ang mga Romans.
Og atong pod makomparar kon mag hisgot ta og prophet,Jesus Christ og MOhammad.Makita nato nga si Jesus Christ naa tanang kaayo isip usa ka prophet.Si mohammad unsa naa niya?Naa ba diay prophet na warrior?
Ang bible is complate naa tanan diha polong sa GINOO,kon imong basahon tanan diha sa BIBLE unya imong e comparar sa Quaran layo ra kaayo.opposite kaayo,usa pa sa quaran imong mabantayan nga gi insert si mohammad imbes kay si Jesus Christ,ngano anak ba sa Ginoo SI mohammad?deli diba?,,moingon ang muslim bible daw usa raka diary sa karaang panahon maoy ilang pag too,quaran daw maoy sakto,gikan daw ni ALLAH..Ang balaang kasulatan gikan sa GINOO sinulat sa mga balaang tawo,giniyahan sa espirito santo..Pagkamatay ni mohammad modagan pa og pila ka mga tuig usa pa masulat ang Quaran,na sa ato pa deli jod gikan mohammad kadtong rang mga sumosunod niya.,
Ang uyuan daw ni mohammad usa ka paring katoliko iyang gipatay.
Kon tinood ba ang Quaran,naay makita nga orihinal nga suwat,,pero ang BIBLE naa guyd orihinal,imo daw makita sa british museum og sa Rome museum.ang mga muslim nag too nga ang GINOO ilang gisimba maoy tinood deli parehas sa mga christian.,dako kaayong sukwahi sa christian,kay Love your enemy man sa ilaha patyon mao sugo di mohammad,kinsay mosopak patyon.Gitagna man daan sa kasulatan nga moabot gyud ang higayon na matunga ang pagtoo sa kalibutan pero sa ingon ni ana deli gyud maguba og patumpag ang simbahan na iyang gitokod,Kitang tawo gisukod gyud og unsa ka lig on atong pagtoo..


My friend,

Islam was spread through the sword and through forced conversion. That is the main difference. Christianity, in the beginning, was a persecuted religion and spread its influence through good works, as well as saving faith and eventually blossomed in the many communities in the ancient world.

Christianity , and Christians were persecuted and killed in the beginning. The Jews regarded the early Christians as a radical sect of Judaism and persecuted them accordingly. The Roman Empire , too, persecuted the early Christians in the form of entertainment in the Gladiatorial Games. The Roman Emperors Caligula and Nero were known for their voracious hatred for the Christians and enacted policies for their arrest and murder. It is ironic tho, that within 2 centuries, the very religion that was persecuted by the ancient Romans became the state religion of the entire Roman Empire when the Roman Emperor Constantinus Augustus converted to Christianity ; and with it enacted policies that facilitated the growth of Christian communities and the ceasure of state-supported persecution of Christian communities. By this effect, Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire.

Compare Christianity's mode of spread to that of Islam's. The latter (Islam) was spread via the sword. Muhammad, was a brilliant tactician and political leader then turned theocratic overlord. He utilized brutal military tactics to build his power base; he employed thousands of soldiers to rob, kill and hijack the caravan traders in the Arabian peninsula. This brilliant strategy led to the starving of the principalities of Medina and Mekka , which reduced their defenses. Muhammad then amassed a great army and eventually conquered the city of Medina and Mekka by force; killing and wiping out the defenders and then instituting forced conversion of the population of the two cities.

Muhammad was brilliant. He became the ultimate leader, comparable to a proto-Ayatollah or proto-Mullah. He not only was the political overlord of the Arabian peninsula but also a self-declared theocratic leader as well (as he claimed to be the prophet of Allah (ironically in the old Arabian polytheistic religion, the god Allah was a king of many gods). With Muhammad holding political, economic as well as religious authority (ABSOLUTE POWER), his will was the law.

He legitimized himself even in the SHAHADA, which states:
   lā ʾilāha ʾillallāh, Muḥammad rasÅ«lu-llāh) (in Arabic)
    There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God.




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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2011, 07:39:23 PM »
And the LORD said . . . “The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them . . .  Jeremiah 14:14

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Your prophets have seen for you False and deceptive visions; They have not uncovered your iniquity . . Lamentations 2:14

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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2011, 07:53:57 PM »

Since, O Mazda, from the beginning, Thou didst create soul and body; mental power and knowledge and since Thou didst place life within the corporeal body and didst bestow to mankind the power to act, speak and guide, you wished that everyone should choose his or her own faith and path freely. --Ahunuvaiti Gatha, Yasna 31, Verse 11

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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2011, 08:05:40 PM »
masmaayo gyud atong hinoktokan kon asa diay ta dapita na butang sa atong pagtoo,deli lang kay,unsay nahimat an mao na kadto,kondeli mangutana gyud ta sa atong kaugalingon kon mao ba gyud,,,

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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2011, 08:29:37 PM »

masmaayo gyud atong hinoktokan kon asa diay ta dapita na butang sa atong pagtoo,deli lang kay,unsay nahimat an mao na kadto,kondeli mangutana gyud ta sa atong kaugalingon kon mao ba gyud,,,

Kon kinahanglan nga maglukso-lukso o magsakdap-sakdap aron lang pagpinsar kon mao ba jud--ato kining buhaton...

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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2011, 11:08:23 PM »
And the LORD said . . . “The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them . . .  Jeremiah 14:14
Your prophets have seen for you False and deceptive visions; They have not uncovered your iniquity . . Lamentations 2:14


Thanks for sharing these two verses, Chris. Again, even Holy Scripture forewarns us to guard and protect the faith from false teachings. As I read this thread and contemplate and internalize the discourse in here, I cannot help but remember the sermon that was given by my parish priest a couple of weeks ago. He referred to all religions and belief systems as being a "DART BOARD". He said this as a means of figurative comparison and to note that each religious faith taught and professed some aspect or part of Divine Truth.

The other religions of the world were like the outer rings of a dart board, as it held some aspect (even if it be minimal) of the Truth. Christianity was the bulls eye. He said something that I think is pertinent in sharing with everyone in here as well, "So, you all should keep your eyes on the Truth and focus on the Bulls Eye..."


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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2011, 11:16:10 PM »
Since, O Mazda, from the beginning, Thou didst create soul and body; mental power and knowledge and since Thou didst place life within the corporeal body and didst bestow to mankind the power to act, speak and guide, you wished that everyone should choose his or her own faith and path freely. --Ahunuvaiti Gatha, Yasna 31, Verse 11

Manong,

Zoroastrianism was , indeed, one of the beautiful earlier forms of Monotheism, and a religion that was uniquely indigenous to Persia (Iran), same as the Baha'i faith.

Incidentally, the number of Zoroastrians and Baha'i adherents are now very low. Many of whom leaving Iran for refugee camps in India, as well as in the Americas.

The Theocratic Government of Islamic Iran (ruled by the Ayatollahs) have enacted policies that persecute  Zoroastrians and Bahai adherents. Jews and Christians in that country are also persecuted.

I have a friend, Saheed, who was a Shia Muslim and left the country (Iran) in the late 70s after the islamic revolution rocked that country. He said to me that during the revolution, islamic radicals killed thousands of iranian-jews, iranian-christians, and iranian-zoroastrians. Many were forced to convert to Islam by the point of the gun; and many also died. My friend, Saheed, later converted to another religion many years after. He told me that he was drawn to it like a bee to honey because of "its absolute teachings of peace, and love...". For almost 20 years now he has been a practicing/devout Roman Catholic. :)



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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2011, 05:09:42 PM »
Kumusta na mga taga Bohol jan, taga Union,Dauis ko matagal nko hindi nka uwi jan sa atin pasensya na mahirap kc ang buhay jan stin e pero mahal ko ang Dauis kc jan ako isinilang e, nandito ako ng work sa K.S.A. ngayun almost 20 yrs. na for family needs syempre.. regarding jan sa topic natin kanya2 kc ang paniniwala ntin e for me i'm solid christian and it wil never change, thks to all of you guys God loves you...

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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2011, 06:50:06 PM »

Welcome to Tubag Bohol, Bay Aureliano. Share your experiences naman jan sa K.S.A kc gusto din naming nalaman kung paano ang buhay jan sa Muslim country...


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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2011, 07:13:38 PM »
dito sa Saudi medyo may kahirapan kasi marami ang bawal...                                                     
1. bawal magkaroon ng ibang religion
2.bawal kausapin ang babae pag hindi mo kamag-anak
3.bawal magtipontipon lalo na pag oras ng sahla or prayer time
4.bawal uminom ng kahit anong klasing alak, kailangan mong sundin pra hindi ka "malatigo"
5.Lahat ng kainan,banko,tirahan. pati pagsakay ng bus mayron para sa mga babae o hiwalay pra sa mga ladies
5.lahat ng Arabo kailangan naka suot ng kulay puti na damit, tawag dito ay "Thob" prang sutana ng pari
6.Lahat ng babae ay kailangan naka suot naman ng kulay itim na damit, tawag dito ay "Abaya"
7.Kailangan oras ng sahla o prayer time lahat ng tindahan,banko grocery basta lahat ng negosyo sarado, kailangan mong sundin pra hndi ka malatigo
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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2011, 01:08:58 AM »
I think what will be the most important thing that must come to an individual mind is that what happen to your life after death. And besides both theology supports the doctrine of life after death, for muslim, martyrs get 74 virgins and christians be in heaven, etc.... And if you study the doctrines both contextual and metaphorical & dispensational time, this should give you a guidance which is which is the faith you should follow and what is more important for you. and I believe the gospel totaly make sense to me, the theological studies does not contradict to each other though it is written by several prohpets and really seems like it is coming from one source alone.

but such opinion and faith should not make us stereotype but instead be guided and enlightend on which path to follow. We all see the things going on all around the world and that should give us the picture and reflect on to our chosen path.

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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2011, 01:32:47 AM »
Basa lang ko aning inyong topic, kai waa jud koi ika tampo :)

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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2011, 02:18:32 AM »
Kumusta na mga taga Bohol jan, taga Union,Dauis ko matagal nko hindi nka uwi jan sa atin pasensya na mahirap kc ang buhay jan stin e pero mahal ko ang Dauis kc jan ako isinilang e, nandito ako ng work sa K.S.A. ngayun almost 20 yrs. na for family needs syempre.. regarding jan sa topic natin kanya2 kc ang paniniwala ntin e for me i'm solid christian and it wil never change, thks to all of you guys God loves you...

Kamusta Aureliano!

Maraming Salamat sa post at chaka ang intersado mo sa itong topic. At salamat sa inyong sakripisyo sa pamilya na lahat. Our province of Bohol is proud of men and women like you who go abroad to help family and support them!

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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2011, 03:19:37 AM »
... for muslim, martyrs get 74 virgins


Mao diay ni ila pagtoo... hmmmm, morag daghang taga TB muangay ani da. Unsa man Brad Lorenz, Bay Hubs, Bay Bugs, Bay Vist, Bay Glace, Bay BQN, BNC? Morag kamo man ang mga miembro sa TOS (TB Oragonz Society)  ;D ;D


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« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2011, 03:22:32 AM »
.... for muslim, martyrs get 74 virgins


Catholic theology insists that there are no marriages in heaven ;D Muangay mo aning kalakia? (LoL) ;D


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« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2011, 05:46:26 AM »
Mao diay ni ila pagtoo... hmmmm, morag daghang taga TB muangay ani da. Unsa man Brad Lorenz, Bay Hubs, Bay Bugs, Bay Vist, Bay Glace, Bay BQN, BNC? Morag kamo man ang mga miembro sa TOS (TB Oragonz Society)  ;D ;D


hehehehe! kuyaw lagi ning mga muslim kai ilang paradisyo, puro ug mga physical treats ug physical enjoyments. wa jamoy spiritualisto nga reward, puro ra ug u-wag u-wag! kahibalo ka, Fr. Roel, nga sa paradise sa muslim, naay mga batang lalake para sa lalake ilang i remedyohon ug ilang i iyuton?


I was shocked to read this too when I read the Q'uran many years ago. Islam and the Q'uran is a hypocritical belief system because despite the outward condemnation of homosexuality and sexuality in general, Allah apparently tells Muhammad that Paradise will be filled with sex and physical pleasures. In other words, a whore-house.

Despite outwardly condemnation or disapproval, homosexuality was and is widely practiced in Islamic countries. To please the homosexuals among his followers, Prophet Muhammad promised them pre-pubescent pear-like boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam will get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths, who are fresh like pearls.

Quran 52:24
…Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Quran 76:19
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« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2011, 05:48:41 AM »
A prominent muslim imam and poet, Abu Nawas, was also a violent crusader of the Islamic Faith. However, unbenownst to many was that he was a supporter of sodomy and pedophilia. In one poem that he wrote, he expressed this so:

O the joy of sodomy!

So now be sodomites, you Arabs.

Turn not away from it therein is wondrous pleasure.

Take some coy lad with kiss curls twisting on his temple

And ride as he stands like some gazelle standing to her mate.

A lad whom all can see girt with sword and belt not like your whore who has to go veiled.

Make for smooth-faced boys and do your very best to mount them,

for women are the mounts of the devils


It is amazing that this was written by an Islamic Imam. A man of the faith and a crusader for Islam.

tsk tsk tsk.  :-\

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« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2011, 05:50:08 AM »
For all muslims kono, paradise will be filled with virgins a plenty.

Quran 78:31
…As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.


My question is, what about the women? Will they also be given 72 virgins daw? lol  ::)


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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2011, 05:57:26 AM »
I think what will be the most important thing that must come to an individual mind is that what happen to your life after death. And besides both theology supports the doctrine of life after death, for muslim, martyrs get 74 virgins and christians be in heaven, etc.... And if you study the doctrines both contextual and metaphorical & dispensational time, this should give you a guidance which is which is the faith you should follow and what is more important for you. and I believe the gospel totaly make sense to me, the theological studies does not contradict to each other though it is written by several prohpets and really seems like it is coming from one source alone.

but such opinion and faith should not make us stereotype but instead be guided and enlightend on which path to follow. We all see the things going on all around the world and that should give us the picture and reflect on to our chosen path.

The beauty of the Gospel is that it coalesces and coincides with its teachings from start to finish: the Power of Saving Faith.

The beauty of the Holy Gospel is that it teaches us to expect the world to come and to practice an active faith in Christ Jesus.

We are promised , as Christians, the salvation of the soul and the overcoming of the world and all the pleasures and pains of the world.

That is the beauty, power, and incorruptibility of the Christian Faith that surmounts the rest.

"Keep your eyes on the Bull's Eye"

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« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2011, 02:18:10 PM »

Mao diay ni ila pagtoo... hmmmm, morag daghang taga TB muangay ani da. Unsa man Brad Lorenz, Bay Hubs, Bay Bugs, Bay Vist, Bay Glace, Bay BQN, BNC? Morag kamo man ang mga miembro sa TOS (TB Oragonz Society)  ;D ;D

Unsa to, 74 virgins? Hmm, usa ray akoa unya akong pabatnan ang 73... ;D

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« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2011, 08:28:00 PM »
Unsa to, 74 virgins? Hmm, usa ray akoa unya akong pabatnan ang 73... ;D

imo nalang na virgin bai,,di matabang oi,,unsa god nang relihiyona nga,sukwahi mas gitudlo sa uban,,di maayo,,

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« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2011, 08:43:08 PM »

imo nalang na virgin bai,,di matabang oi,,unsa god nang relihiyona nga,sukwahi mas gitudlo sa uban,,di maayo,,

Hmm, di kag virgin kay mas gusto kag experienced bay?

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« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2011, 08:58:56 PM »
Hmm, di kag virgin kay mas gusto kag experienced bay?

h,ehe,he,mangaply man gani trabaho kinahanglan naay experience,,he,he,he,lisod na walay experience oi,,di katambling,,he,he,

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« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2011, 11:26:39 PM »


uyon ko sa relihiyon nga islam sa mga muslim.  it is a religion of peace.  di gyod hinoon nako ibaylo ang akong pagka-katoliko, as a matter of faith and tradition because catholicism is the religion of my ancestors. 

that is why i take special care in giving due respect to all other religions, except one.

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« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2011, 03:17:02 AM »
pero sa akong namatikdan sa kalibutan,,kon asa na sila naay gubot,,sa africa pila kabook pamilya gimasaker,,kon dile mo convert,,perting daghana gyud,,sa utlanan pakistan og india,50 kapamilya gipatay gumikan kay christian,,sa Iraq maglisod nag simba mga kristianos kay bombahan,,Naa pod usa ka babaye didto sa pakistan nga gihokmang bitayon gumikan lang sa pag labay sa bisnez card sa iyang kleyenti nga ang name mohammad,kay insulto kono sa ilang propeta...ambot kaha kong naa bay matinod anon nila,,i ampo nalang nato..

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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2011, 06:41:03 AM »
pareho ra, ang uban Muslim gusto mag Kristyano kay miangay sila sa activities sa mga Kristyano, ug ang uban sab Kristyano gusto mag Muslim.

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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2011, 08:07:53 AM »
Usa ra man ang Ginoo. THe God ,Allah to the Muslim is Jehovah to the Christian world that believe in Jesus as the Saviour. THe Muslim also has Mohammad as their prophet.

Their is only one creator, Allah or Jehovah.

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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2011, 08:11:21 AM »
I don't believe in Christians who convert to Islam were grounded Christians. Their conversion was due to their lack of understanding of the Word of God.

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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2011, 08:50:56 AM »
Usa ra man ang Ginoo. THe God ,Allah to the Muslim is Jehovah to the Christian world that believe in Jesus as the Saviour. THe Muslim also has Mohammad as their prophet.

Their is only one creator, Allah or Jehovah.


The three religions: Christianity, Judaism and Islam share a common bond in their Abrahamic origins. However, the latter two require the performance of ritual works for salvation. We know that by the Law we see damnation, but through Jesus Christ alone, we see Salvation and Entrance into Life Everlasting.

Jews do not believe in Jesus Christ and have rejected Him. Muslims don't believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of the Living God, however claim him to be a mere prophet. Additionally, in the Q'uran Jesus was not crucified but one of his likeness took his place.

If one is Christian, one admits and confesses that the Salvation of our Sin is through the death of Christ on the Cross and eventual Resurrection. Christ had to die for the salvation of all for He was God's own way of Ransoming all from the power of sin and death. If Christ did not die on the Cross, none would be saved.

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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2011, 08:55:42 AM »
The early church fathers preach truth and reiterate what Apostle Paul once said to the Corinthians in the message of Christ's Ressurection. He warns us from denial and from false news in those who teach otherwise.

1 Corinthians 15:

"But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost."


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If Christ did not rise and if He did not preach Truth, then we all would be dead men. And that those who have died will remain dead for everlasting time. I do not believe this, as I believe that Christ did die and did rise on the third day as was prophesied and as was preached unto the nations.

Islam denies Christ's death and resurrection and thus denies the salvation of all who believe in Christ Jesus from Original Sin.

In fact, Islam preaches that there was no original sin.

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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2011, 08:59:22 AM »
Jesus Christ tells us , all of us brother Christians, that those who deny Him before men, He will too deny them before His Father Who Is in Heaven. The LORD tells us that if we do not believe in Him then we will die in our sins.

Muslims, Jews etc do not believe in Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Only Way towards Salvation and the Truth. Anything else , otherwise, is false teaching.

There is No Salvation outside the Church and outside Jesus Christ.

That is the Truth.

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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2011, 09:03:00 AM »
When the Jewish Rabbinical Elders asked The Lord Jesus Christ about His Authority , Jesus Christ answers the Jews directly and boldly,


"That is why I said that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I AM who I claim to be, you will die in your sins."

(John 8:24)
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The Jews crucified Christ Jesus and none of them believe that He is The Messiah. Hence, they have already chosen their own destination.
They (those who condemned Him and those who deny Him) will die in their sins.



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« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2011, 09:07:47 AM »
St. Peter and St. John, the early church fathers, were strong heralds of the Faith and represent what it means  to be Christian. They reiterate the same Message that All Christians preach since the Pentecost: There Is No Salvation Outside Jesus Christ.

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8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders, 9 if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, 10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11 This Jesus  is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.  12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

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« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2011, 09:13:52 AM »
Let us pray for full discernment of the Word of God and the spreading of the Gospel to all lands.


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« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2011, 03:06:55 PM »

pareho ra, ang uban Muslim gusto mag Kristyano kay miangay sila sa activities sa mga Kristyano, ug ang uban sab Kristyano gusto mag Muslim.

Mao nay giingon nga but-anay ba diay...

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« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2011, 06:23:03 PM »
I don't believe in Christians who convert to Islam were grounded Christians. Their conversion was due to their lack of understanding of the Word of God.

since when did you learn that you can tell what's really in these people's hearts and minds?

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« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2011, 08:52:55 PM »

He he, kon dili grounded, kuyaw nga makakuryente diay...

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« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2011, 11:10:12 PM »
Niandar na sad ang pagka "God-complex" sa atong professor who talks in absoulute term  :P

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« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2011, 12:47:24 AM »
Mao jud ni ahong ganahan dinhi sa atong payag, kai naa tai Father, unja naa pod tai professor :D

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« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2011, 12:59:51 AM »
In the age when our faith and the teachings of the Holy Scripture is being attacked by would be deceivers, one must fight off the wolves. One must defend the faith at times and not be afraid to speak with what the heart tells us. Most importantly, to share the Good News of Jesus Christ, from whom All good things come from.

There is no salvation outside Jesus Christ.

St. Peter himself, the first Pope, commands the same message. The very man who holds the Keys of Heaven says it:


8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders, 9 if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, 10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11 This Jesus  is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.  12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

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« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2011, 01:02:59 AM »
Niandar na sad ang pagka "God-complex" sa atong professor who talks in absoulute term  :P

A simple soldier of Christ, lang... ;)



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« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2011, 06:00:49 AM »

Mao jud ni ahong ganahan dinhi sa atong payag, kai naa tai Father, unja naa pod tai professor :D

An intolerable bigot of a "professor"...

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« Reply #60 on: May 11, 2011, 06:05:43 AM »

It is so heartbreaking to see the Christian faith being used as a vehicle of hatred and arrogance.

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« Reply #61 on: May 11, 2011, 12:33:08 PM »

Apan kon magtago ug dili magpakita bay, dili man bawal...

dito sa Saudi medyo may kahirapan kasi marami ang bawal...                                                     
1. bawal magkaroon ng ibang religion
2.bawal kausapin ang babae pag hindi mo kamag-anak
3.bawal magtipontipon lalo na pag oras ng sahla or prayer time
4.bawal uminom ng kahit anong klasing alak, kailangan mong sundin pra hindi ka "malatigo"
5.Lahat ng kainan,banko,tirahan. pati pagsakay ng bus mayron para sa mga babae o hiwalay pra sa mga ladies
5.lahat ng Arabo kailangan naka suot ng kulay puti na damit, tawag dito ay "Thob" prang sutana ng pari
6.Lahat ng babae ay kailangan naka suot naman ng kulay itim na damit, tawag dito ay "Abaya"
7.Kailangan oras ng sahla o prayer time lahat ng tindahan,banko grocery basta lahat ng negosyo sarado, kailangan mong sundin pra hndi ka malatigo
napakarami pang bawal pero magtataka ka  napakarami ding gago dto...maraming salamat po kaibigan...
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« Reply #62 on: May 11, 2011, 02:22:51 PM »
Apan kon magtago ug dili magpakita bay, dili man bawal...


bawal tingali gihapon; wa lay masilotan kay wa may masakpan.  kun maglisod mog sunod sa local norms sa inyong host countries, thou shalt not get caught na lang gyod. ;D

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« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2011, 10:57:24 PM »
bawal tingali gihapon; wa lay masilotan kay wa may masakpan.  kun maglisod mog sunod sa local norms sa inyong host countries, thou shalt not get caught na lang gyod. ;D

hahahahaha...aw mao jud.

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« Reply #64 on: May 15, 2011, 03:01:40 PM »
Hesus Nag ingon,,walay maka adto sa amahan kon deli pina agi kanako,,

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« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2011, 09:59:30 AM »

Hesus Nag ingon,,walay maka adto sa amahan kon deli pina agi kanako,,

Relihiyoso man diay ka, Bay Chris...

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« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2011, 05:57:52 PM »
Relihiyoso man diay ka, Bay Chris...

aw sumpay mana sa ginin hawa bai hubs,,sa giutangan natog kinabuhi,,

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« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2011, 01:35:54 AM »
aw sumpay mana sa ginin hawa bai hubs,,sa giutangan natog kinabuhi,,

Beautiful answer, Chris. :)

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« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2011, 02:09:15 AM »
Beautiful answer, Chris. :)

Thank you sir,

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« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2011, 02:46:37 AM »
In a world where Christians are being persecuted for being open with their faith and for sharing their faith outwardly, we find solace in knowing that the sufferings and the persecutions in this life will lead to a reward in Heaven.

Jesus Christ said unto them, "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.."
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« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2011, 09:55:47 AM »

aw sumpay mana sa ginin hawa bai hubs,,sa giutangan natog kinabuhi,,

Lisod pud nang inutang, hinatag lang tingali...

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« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2011, 01:22:33 PM »
Ako uyon kaayo, kay barato ra ang ilang mga Paninda, makapalit ta nila ug Computer games nga 10 pesos lang, VCD 10 pesos gihapon, Mobile Phones 300 pesos etc...

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« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2011, 01:35:55 PM »
Ako uyon kaayo, kay barato ra ang ilang mga Paninda, makapalit ta nila ug Computer games nga 10 pesos lang, VCD 10 pesos gihapon, Mobile Phones 300 pesos etc...

Vistabel, tinuod ka? Barato kaajo da..

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« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2011, 01:51:53 PM »
Vistabel, tinuod ka? Barato kaajo da..
Maayo bitaw ang Muslim kay makadaginot ta  ug gamay. Dili mokaon ug baboy ug may usa ka bulan nga puasa ug dili sad moinon ug alak.

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« Reply #75 on: May 20, 2011, 01:57:47 PM »
Maayo bitaw ang Muslim kay makadaginot ta  ug gamay. Dili mokaon ug baboy ug may usa ka bulan nga puasa ug dili sad moinon ug alak.

daghang muslim mo ingon dili sila mo kaon ug baboy, pero mo kaon man sila ug humba.

adunay situwasyon ,

naay usang muslim ug usang pari, nag meet up sila. old time friends.

ingon ang pari sa muslim, "Igsoon, naka tilaw na ka ug baboy?"

ingon ang muslim, "Jawaa! Naka kaon gud! Lami kaayo!"

ning ingon pood ang muslim, "Ikaw, pari, naka tilaw ka sa babaye?"

ning ngisi ang pare, "Aww mas lami pa ang babaye sa baboy!!!"


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« Reply #76 on: May 20, 2011, 02:13:14 PM »
Naka classmate ko niadtong college ko ug duha ka Muslim baje. Kaluha sila. Bilib ko kay arang ka alisto mopatimaho ug baboy. Ultimong mantika kahibawo. Moingon to ug moorder nga dili daw sila sa gulay ug isda kay gigamitan ug mantika sa baboy.

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« Reply #77 on: May 20, 2011, 04:13:50 PM »

Naka classmate ko niadtong college ko ug duha ka Muslim baje. Kaluha sila. Bilib ko kay arang ka alisto mopatimaho ug baboy. Ultimong mantika kahibawo. Moingon to ug moorder nga dili daw sila sa gulay ug isda kay gigamitan ug mantika sa baboy.

Bitaw. Maayo man gani motimaho ang Sabadista...

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« Reply #78 on: May 20, 2011, 07:08:38 PM »
Bitaw. Maayo man gani motimaho ang Sabadista...

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #79 on: May 20, 2011, 07:13:59 PM »
daghang muslim mo ingon dili sila mo kaon ug baboy, pero mo kaon man sila ug humba.

adunay situwasyon ,

naay usang muslim ug usang pari, nag meet up sila. old time friends.

ingon ang pari sa muslim, "Igsoon, naka tilaw na ka ug baboy?"

ingon ang muslim, "Jawaa! Naka kaon gud! Lami kaayo!"

ning ingon pood ang muslim, "Ikaw, pari, naka tilaw ka sa babaye?"

ning ngisi ang pare, "Aww mas lami pa ang babaye sa baboy!!!"


bwahahahaha!

joke.

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #80 on: May 20, 2011, 07:19:04 PM »
Naka classmate ko niadtong college ko ug duha ka Muslim baje. Kaluha sila. Bilib ko kay arang ka alisto mopatimaho ug baboy. Ultimong mantika kahibawo. Moingon to ug moorder nga dili daw sila sa gulay ug isda kay gigamitan ug mantika sa baboy.

wala gihapon ikyas,,he,he,he,,

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #81 on: May 20, 2011, 08:06:18 PM »

Unsa ni the new Lorenzo? Ajejejeje  ;D


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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #82 on: May 20, 2011, 08:53:17 PM »
Since its blood was not taken into the Holy Place, you should have eaten the goat in the sanctuary area, as I commanded." Leviticus 10:18

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #83 on: May 20, 2011, 09:03:59 PM »

nakatimaho kog mestizong fr chic ug hubag ani da...

Nganong ako man jud? Naay binuangon nga katagilungsod ay... ;D

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #84 on: May 20, 2011, 09:15:07 PM »
Nganong ako man jud? Naay binuangon nga katagilungsod ay... ;D

ikaw may sikat bai,,,

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #85 on: May 20, 2011, 09:25:56 PM »

Permi lang jud ko daog-daogon ani, abi kay tiguwang na. Huhuhu...

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #86 on: May 20, 2011, 10:11:40 PM »
Naka classmate ko niadtong college ko ug duha ka Muslim baje. Kaluha sila. Bilib ko kay arang ka alisto mopatimaho ug baboy. Ultimong mantika kahibawo. Moingon to ug moorder nga dili daw sila sa gulay ug isda kay gigamitan ug mantika sa baboy.

hehehe. naka hinumdom ko sa usang joke that my dad told me before (my dad went to CIT for Civil Engineering and he had alot of Tausug classmates that were muslim daw)

naay usang muslim lalake (perting bongota, ug mo wear og puti attire nga pariho sa arabo) ning adto sa merkado.
mo palit sija mantika pero dili mo palit sa mantika nga gi use to pinirito sa baboy nga karne ; or mantika sa baboy.

in the like kono, he was asking the merchant what kind of food was being served:

muslim: igsoon, unsa man ni siya?
tindero: aww, ku an na bai, adobong manok
muslim: unsa claseng mantika man sa sud?
tindero: aww, mantika sa baboy.

muslim: dili ko. kay HARAM man na sa islam. ako muslim gud ko.
tindero: aww, o sige, bai.

muslim: kani diay (pointing to something) unsa man ni? humut baya. alhamdulillah!
tindero: awww kuan na bai, humba.

muslim: mo palit ko ana! sinko ka kilo!
tindero: pero, bai, ang mantika taga baboy baya na. ug humba man na!

muslim: (smiling) awww, di man ko mo kaon ana. mo tisting lang gud.




bwahahahahahaha!

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #87 on: May 21, 2011, 03:01:24 AM »
naa may muslim na minyo taga amoa,kosog man kaon baboy,kosog pod mo inom tuba,,,saon lami man kono baboy,,,

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #88 on: May 21, 2011, 03:10:54 AM »
nakatimaho kog mestizong fr chic ug hubag ani da...

Nganong ako man jud? Naay binuangon nga katagilungsod ay... ;D

Nakatimaho ra gani, di pa jud na sure  ;D


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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #89 on: May 21, 2011, 03:26:37 AM »
naa may muslim na minyo taga amoa,kosog man kaon baboy,kosog pod mo inom tuba,,,saon lami man kono baboy,,,

hehehe ka grabe sa HARAM da. mo ampo ba ni sija 5 times a day, brod. chris?

selective muslim diay ni sija. pariho ra pood nis sa mga kristyano nga 'selective' christian ra pood sila. they choose to believe and practice whenever it suits them....



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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #90 on: May 21, 2011, 03:29:33 AM »
Nakatimaho ra gani, di pa jud na sure  ;D


fr. roel, daghang mga babaye ning hilak sigoro when they found out you entered seminary eh?

ingon god ahong auntie , my father's younger sister, that she had a crush on you kono when you guys were in high school. divine word college man toh?

:)

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Re: Uyon mo sa Muslim?
« Reply #91 on: May 21, 2011, 05:07:09 AM »
fr. roel, daghang mga babaye ning hilak sigoro when they found out you entered seminary eh?

ingon god ahong auntie , my father's younger sister, that she had a crush on you kono when you guys were in high school. divine word college man toh?

:)

Ows?  :D



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« Reply #92 on: May 21, 2011, 05:12:19 AM »
Ows?  :D



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