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« Reply #80 on: October 06, 2007, 12:28:32 PM »
oist miss belle,

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« Reply #81 on: October 06, 2007, 12:29:44 PM »
nag search ko sa among adtoon  next week

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« Reply #83 on: October 06, 2007, 12:30:43 PM »
wow!

mag laag laag mo sa iowa, miss belle?



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« Reply #84 on: October 06, 2007, 09:43:50 PM »
Not all made-in-chinas been designed in China.

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« Reply #85 on: October 06, 2007, 09:45:38 PM »
Just recently, one of our products "Bausch&Lomb Solution" have been recalled from Saudi Government even if there was no indication of harm from SASO (Saudi Arabian Standard Organization). The reason is that there was a magazine publicity in USA that people suffered from eye irritation after using the solution.

As a precaution, the Saudi government recalled the product. Actually, it was only a publicity by a rival brand.

Saudi is one of the toughest quality control in the world. In every country there is a SASO and no product can pass the Customs without SASO Certificate. Even Airconditioners and cars will undergo SASO inspection.

Even the Royal Family businesses is not excempted by this rule. Last month, a bottled water factory owned by a prince has been closed due to high bromate content exceeding SASO recommended level. Bromate at high level has been known to be carcenogenic.

Back in the Philippines, we even don't know if the processed food we are eating are safe. So better eat natural food, and avoid the processed ones. It is much safer.

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« Reply #86 on: October 06, 2007, 09:51:07 PM »
Just recently, one of our products "Bausch&Lomb Solution" have been recalled from Saudi Government even if there was no indication of harm from SASO (Saudi Arabian Standard Organization). The reason is that there was a magazine publicity in USA that people suffered from eye irritation after using the solution.

As a precaution, the Saudi government recalled the product. Actually, it was only a publicity by a rival brand.

Saudi is one of the toughest quality control in the world. In every country there is a SASO and no product can pass the Customs without SASO Certificate. Even Airconditioners and cars will undergo SASO inspection.

Even the Royal Family businesses is not excempted by this rule. Last month, a bottled water factory owned by a prince has been closed due to high bromate content exceeding SASO recommended level. Bromate at high level has been known to be carcenogenic.

Back in the Philippines, we even don't know if the processed food we are eating are safe. So better eat natural food, and avoid the processed ones. It is much safer.




Nice to know...

high standard sila diha Macky no???

as fas as i know... kay naa man kuy amiga naa diha... but i dont know asa na sila karon diha...

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« Reply #87 on: October 06, 2007, 09:53:04 PM »
oist miss gorgeous, mata naman lagi ka?

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Mr Macky, akong uncle naa man pud sa Saudi, ingon siya ang inyo kunong mga vegetables diha, acres upon acres, naka greenhouse, controlled w/ optimum temps jud daw...mahala siguro operating expenses ana noh?



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« Reply #88 on: October 06, 2007, 09:55:34 PM »
Ms. Dabinsi,

Nice lagi imong fairy attire.

Just tell me your friend's family name and I will try to inquire.

By the way, naa mi ig-agaw diha sa Michigan nga si Nong Roldan Sarmiento. Kaila ba ka nila? Akong mama ug iyang papa igsoon.

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« Reply #89 on: October 06, 2007, 10:03:18 PM »
Saudi is one of the toughest quality control in the world. In every country there is a SASO and no product can pass the Customs without SASO Certificate.
Tinuod gyud ka Mac kay sa Riyadh wala gyud mo pasar ang atong Made-in-RP nga Silver Swan sauce. na recall pod

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« Reply #90 on: October 06, 2007, 10:05:22 PM »
I knew it was a mistake to use my picture as my avatar. 
There are maybe 1 or 2 textile factories back in my hometown. In the 70s/80s it was the main employer - with 10s of factories.
You're right about it being an opportunity for this country.  Some countries manage to sell at higher prices than China because they have more ethical employment practices and human rights.  The consumers prefer not to think of kids in sweatshops etc. so it give the brand more value.  Still, to be competitive with the rest of this region you would have to offer your workers only about 3000pesos per month for 12 hour days, 6 days a week. I guess 'ethical employment practices' is a very relative thing!

Actually, Mr. Ben, it is not too late for anybody to start with this kind of business, I mean in international level.

I am employed in a company importing home textiles, such as towels, bed sheets, comforters, pillows, rugs, bath mats..etc.

In my observation, buyers are not choosing based on brand but on the design. And quality of material is only a second criteria.

Since, we Boholanos has a unique and creative sense of design, I think we are competitive in this field.

We can import raw materials from China and Thailand and assemble it in Bohol and re-export it to the world.

This is just my idea and who knows it will become a big enterprise in Bohol if all of us will colaborate.

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« Reply #91 on: October 06, 2007, 10:22:30 PM »
i like that idea Macks, at least it could generate employment..


Go Bohol!!!


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« Reply #92 on: October 06, 2007, 10:26:11 PM »
why do we need to import ra materials from china and thailand?

don't we have cheap raw materials in the country?



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« Reply #93 on: October 06, 2007, 10:47:19 PM »
The Philippines economic plan is following the path of nations such as India and Malaysia, which is more service oriented. Look at the amount of foreign investment in the IT sphere in the country, as well as the rising banking systems in the country--and this will continue to rise as foreign demand for high skilled laborers in the Philippines is at hand. The Philippines, unlike China and Thailand, graduates thousands of highly skilled individuals in the engineering, medical, teaching, banking fields every year--and are employed abroad, unlike the manufacturing-oriented economies of the region.

Ate Belle did bring up a great point. Why would the Philippines need to import raw materials from Thailand and China considering the Philippines itself is endowed with rich natural resources? Forgive me for being limited in the fields of economics and marketing, perhaps Mr. Ferniz and others could care to explain this?
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« Reply #94 on: October 06, 2007, 10:49:15 PM »
uh-oh naa may bag-ong nagmata ani!!!

it's Ate C2 dong...

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« Reply #95 on: October 06, 2007, 10:50:42 PM »
yeah, fresh from banig atong, dodong?

dong, did you have sweet dreams last night?

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« Reply #96 on: October 06, 2007, 10:54:52 PM »
lol na cozy cozy jud ko, 'te. :) :)

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« Reply #97 on: October 06, 2007, 10:55:38 PM »
uh-oh naa may bag-ong nagmata ani!!!

it's Ate C2 dong...

Mao bitaw, sorry lang ha ate Belle.

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« Reply #99 on: October 06, 2007, 10:59:00 PM »
gakos gakos jud kas imong unlan noh?

bahin sa topic,

sakto ka dodong,

we are gearing more towards service-oriented businesses...

our most notable exports are our people, working in every corner of the globe...

but it would be nice kung ma hatagan pud atensyon ang atong pag export ug mga products

right now, all i could think of nga pinaka daghan nato'g export, is our rattan furniture...

sa north america and europe, hit kaayo nang rattan...

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« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2007, 11:11:04 PM »
That is true, Ate.

I cant help but feel a sense of superiority for the Filipino in comparison to other countries in the region. I dont think the Philippines needs to compare ourselves with nations like Thailand or Vietnam etc. These countries are developing and also third world, we, as a third world nation, need to compare and modify our policies to those of successful countries such as Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia, South Korea etc. The strengths of the Philippines comes not in natural resources (to an extent it does, but not prime) but in the education system of the country and the demographics of our society. The Philippines, a nation of almost 100 million people, has a national literacy rate of over 92%, with the country very fluent in English  and the native languages, we have thousands of technocrats that are hard working and globally-respected in terms of work ethic. We are too educated, as a people, to settle for less such as the sweat shops found in Vietnam, China and Thailand. And why should we? Our people deserve the best. I dont want to down grade the neighbouring countries, but I have not come into contact of Thai or Chinese doctors, nurses, engineers, pharmacists, and teachers here in the United States in the same frequency and number as that of the Filipino.

In the professional field, everyone knows Filipinos are hard working, exceptionally smart, and humble in their work.

The Philippines I see in the 21st century is a hegemon in service industry. Our country has everything, massive man power, vast natural resources, high education, work ethic, which places the country in the verge of a national boom (happening already as our gdp grows at 7.5%). Bring in the foreign investments---and you will see the rise of our bayan. Give it 4-5 decades.



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« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2007, 11:15:25 PM »
Yes, Bran, we all have what it takes to make this country an industrialized one, but we don't have sincere leaders.

My conclusion is that our country is going down because of the greed of the politicians. Remove all politicians and we'll have a better Philippines.

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« Reply #102 on: October 06, 2007, 11:19:28 PM »
gakos gakos jud kas imong unlan noh?

bahin sa topic,

sakto ka dodong,

we are gearing more towards service-oriented businesses...

our most notable exports are our people, working in every corner of the globe...

but it would be nice kung ma hatagan pud atensyon ang atong pag export ug mga products

right now, all i could think of nga pinaka daghan nato'g export, is our rattan furniture...

sa north america and europe, hit kaayo nang rattan...





C2, di ba pod mahurot ang atong rattan sa forest nato???

i was wondering kung naa bay mo re plant anang mga kahuya na...

i can remember when i was still there nag negos ko ug rattan,, raw pa wa pa ma process and was banned kay dili na pakuhaan ang kabukiran..

where did they get these materials???

so there is a tendency nga mahurot na pod ni???



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« Reply #103 on: October 06, 2007, 11:20:09 PM »
Mao jud, dodong.

Maybe while eliminating our weaknesses, we should focus on our strengths pud. And our strength lies in our people. Ning rival na ta sa mga Jews sa diaspora, mas far-reaching pa gani atoa.

I really like the way you think, dodong. Visionary, you have the ability to visualize the big picture. A hundred young people like you, mobalik mo sa Pinas puhon, that'll radically alter how we run things.

Already, our country is favored by outsourcing companies, tungod sa atong facility for English. If not for the peace and order situation in the country right now, mas daghan pa jud unta investors sa atong nasud.



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« Reply #104 on: October 06, 2007, 11:23:00 PM »
I agree with that Mike. We have too many cronyism in our politics, and too much porkbarelling. We need younger, and new politicians. Enough with the old, and in with the new.

We also need to stop electing actors and actresses in politics. Its such a shame, when we have so much talent and so much possibilities with the youth. Most of these actors have no secondary and post-secondary education at all. And we are trusting them to run our industry, economy, military? Look at what happened to Estrada. We need to elect officials that are experienced in the beaurocracy, and look to new leaders in our graduates from law school etc.

The country needs to stop electing entertainers. If Rizal, Aguinaldo and Bonifacio could how things are now, they would keel in their graves with agony...

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« Reply #105 on: October 06, 2007, 11:33:02 PM »
The Philippines economic plan is following the path of nations such as India and Malaysia, which is more service oriented. Look at the amount of foreign investment in the IT sphere in the country, as well as the rising banking systems in the country--and this will continue to rise as foreign demand for high skilled laborers in the Philippines is at hand. The Philippines, unlike China and Thailand, graduates thousands of highly skilled individuals in the engineering, medical, teaching, banking fields every year--and are employed abroad, unlike the manufacturing-oriented economies of the region.

Ate Belle did bring up a great point. Why would the Philippines need to import raw materials from Thailand and China considering the Philippines itself is endowed with rich natural resources? Forgive me for being limited in the fields of economics and marketing, perhaps Mr. Ferniz and others could care to explain this?
Thanks.

Good question there Bran and I am expecting somebody would ask.

Everybody knew that China is the cheapest manufacturer of raw materials. At the moment, they have all the facilities to manufacture almost everything.
 
Whereas, if we manufacture the raw materials (mainly the plain cloth), we have to start with investing on big machineries like the loom.

Hence, it would take a lot of gamble to start someting big. Moreover, this is only half of the story. The other half is what marketing is called the ATL (Above the line) expenseses such as advertisement, Print Materials, Publicities, Agents/representatives to promote your products and marketing. You have to invest on a Website, promoters, Newspaper Ads to be known.

Hence, you have to manage your limited/available budget wisely.

In other countries, such as China, Germany, France, UK, USA their governments are supporting private enterprise by organizing International Trade Fairs. They even built a facility for this such as in Fiera, Milano Italy, where it is like a huge city with hotels and convention centres are build just to showcase thier private industry. Also the Shanghai and Guangzou Exhibition Centre in China. Germany is also hosting the yearly Hymtex Textile exhibition in Munich.

So, private businesses don't need to spend huge budget for publicity because their government is supporting them. Besides, these will draw an influx of international visitors, thus benefiting resorts, hotels and tourism industry in general.

As I have explained previously, buyers are looking for new unique designs and quality is only a second criteria.

In the general sense, this business is service/skilled oriented and not manufacturing oriented. That's why we are not bothered about the raw material (the manufacturing oriented), but rather, focus on the design and assembly, the creative service oriented side.



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« Reply #106 on: October 06, 2007, 11:53:04 PM »
Thank you for that detailed explanation, Mr. Ferniz.

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« Reply #107 on: October 07, 2007, 07:21:05 PM »


all sectors of the society must work cohesively towards one direction and this requires a trusted sincere leader to transform the rotten into a new breed ...

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« Reply #108 on: October 22, 2007, 01:55:58 AM »


Cebu is growing in terms of outsourcing business potentials... If Cebu can do it, why not Bohol? di ba?????????? instead of Bol-anons going to Manila or Cebu sa Bohol na lang... hoping our leaders in the province could initiate this endeavor....

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« Reply #109 on: October 24, 2007, 08:57:24 AM »
yes sir Jun..we can do it..we have quality/quantity of workforce we only lacking financial infrastructure according to source.

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« Reply #110 on: October 25, 2007, 12:12:02 AM »


hope concerned sectors could initiate working on a promotional investment dialogue with prospective partners / investors to translate this concept into a workable, productive, beneficial endeavor to our beloved province.

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« Reply #111 on: October 25, 2007, 10:18:22 AM »

Cebu is growing in terms of outsourcing business potentials... If Cebu can do it, why not Bohol? di ba?????????? instead of Bol-anons going to Manila or Cebu sa Bohol na lang... hoping our leaders in the province could initiate this endeavor....
Didn't Cebu take some projects from Bohol - callcenters that were due to be set up in the top floor of ICM.  Reason was due to poor internet connectivity here.  This is just what I heard.  Maybe someone else can confirm.

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« Reply #112 on: October 26, 2007, 10:16:39 PM »


hello Mr. Ben,
I thanked you for your sense of belongingness though you're not a full-bloodied Filipino and Boholano, yet you have that concern as manifested in your inputs.

Some personnel of the callcenters in Cebu are Boholanos. There might be some truth in "deficient connectivity" as some towns I knew don't even have internet connections...

why I aspire to enhance the probabilities to establish in Bohol because we only rely heavily on agriculture and tourism... at least we could diversify into something with available resources...

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« Reply #114 on: October 26, 2007, 10:33:00 PM »



hi leo, you could assist on this endeavor by spreading the word with pen as the instrument. with your network and drive to make something different in Bohol, we will achieve what we aspire...

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« Reply #115 on: October 26, 2007, 10:37:13 PM »
sure..i PM you my email addresses

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« Reply #117 on: November 13, 2007, 02:01:17 AM »


maayo unta kon mabasa ni sa mga entrepreneurs and politicians so they could forge a mutual relationship in putting Bohol in the map with Outsourcing business potentials...

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« Reply #118 on: November 13, 2007, 05:09:59 PM »
One key element to making outsourcing work is to have someone in the place you're servicing (eg USA).  They should ideally have sufficient contacts to sell to in order to get your business up and running.  An ideal opportunity for OFW professionals methinks - to send work here from their host country.

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« Reply #119 on: November 13, 2007, 11:00:07 PM »
One key element to making outsourcing work is to have someone in the place you're servicing (eg USA).  They should ideally have sufficient contacts to sell to in order to get your business up and running.  An ideal opportunity for OFW professionals methinks - to send work here from their host country.

Hi Ben,

How do you personally assess the state of internet connectivity in Bohol? I would like to know, for instance, if the bandwidth is enough to serve the needs of your business? It seems to me that we have members in this forum who are connecting even from the far corners of the island.

I have friends running small- to medium-size call centers servicing the 250,000-strong Filipino market in Japan selling products such as ABS-CBN's newest video-on-demand TFCko service (they have recruited 10,000 subscribers in the first 7 months), beauty products, international telephone cards, what-have-you.

As I was thinking of slowly setting up shop in Tagbi myself, a call center was one of the projects I thought of. But I do not know if the infrastructure can support the business. I heard from my friends that their Visayan telemarketers are the best performers--if only because majority of the Filipino residents here are from the Visayas and Mindanao. I presume the regional profile of OFWs in other countries is similar.

Another prospective business that can easily be outsourced is publication design. As I myself used to publish a monthly paper, I belong to a group of publishers and editors who always complain about the high cost of content and graphic design--page layouts, advertising design, etc. I can imagine that artistic ability abound in Bohol.

But I really wonder if the present internet infrastructure in Tagbi can make outsourcing of such services feasible. It sure would be a big boost to the local economy if we get a portion of these outsourcing jobs from overseas.

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