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Quote from: Nikon_D300 on January 07, 2009, 08:33:44 AM
Not sure unsa ni na move


Naa bay ngani sa Bohol


BMX'er

1st Picture:

Wow..talk about massive pressure on the occipitofrontalis muscle--not to  mention the underlying frontal aspect of the neurocranium.

2nd Picture:

Energy efficiency and Health Oriented.

3rd Picture:

Wow. That's what I call a 'Physics' Shot.




Nikon,

these are splendid shots.

1. I strive to attain high marks in class--but when I get a grade that I studied for--I feel like I didn't work hard enough.

2. I have 3 alarm times set in place in my cell phone. One to ring at 6:30 am, a second one at 6:45 am and a third one at 7:40 am.
--And I wake up at the last alarm. lol

3. I like being hiluted by my younger brothers.

4. I like shooting guns. I love it when I go outdoors and shoot my Uncle's M-16, SKS rifle etc. I love the feel and sound of a rifle.

5. I have a 'thing' for Spanish girls, that or red-heads. I don't know why. It's so foreign to me that it attracts me.

6. I've never dated a Filipina. Though I tell my friends I want to marry a Filipina. lol.




Next --> Macky Ferniz

I raise my glass of Merlot to that, Buwad!

To all my fellow Filipino Medical Students---based in the United States or abroad,

We, the members of the CMSA (Catholic Medical Student's Association) are calling on you to join membership.

The goal of the Fraternal Organization is to uphold the Truths of Medicine and the principles that we are called to practice and hold in the Hippocratic Oath.

We are a growing Fraternal Organization whose boundaries have grown oustide the United States.



Again, if you have any questions please send an email to me:

branlorenzo@gmail.com
lucinoa@bcm.edu

Nikon,

These are gorgeous shots.

I'm loving the color differentiation and the fluidity.

Magnifico!

Dad,

I ever so realize how much I am similar to you.
My footsteps are similar to yours.
Inasmuch as I try to take up my own view in life;
I cannot help the fact that I am independently taking up views similar to yours.

When I say I am not like you, it isn't serious.

It is an honor to be considered like you.
You are an inspiration in my life, Dad.

Don't you know that?


Your Son,

Am reading the Septuagint.

lol, cute baya kai yellow pood ang truck.

Quote from: preciousNpolite on January 05, 2009, 02:09:47 PM
Lorenzo I sure wish that you could of watched the movie now playing at cinema's titled Balleder.

I truly think you would enjoy the story very much.

I enjoyed it.

it was about a true love story of couples who had been through the Spain/Phil war.

The Spainards ended up surrendering in the movie.

It showed how insecure the Spainard captains were to their own troops.

Many had dies to sickness and poor rationings which later ccaused fatal sickness from starvation.

Oh my goodness' I walked out of the movie with tears flowing from my tear ducts.

I hope that you have a chance to watch it.

Hope you Holiday was a well one.

Priscilla,

I downloaded a movie called "Los Ultimos de Filipinas", which is an old Spanish film based on the Siege of Baler. It's in Spanish, but the storyline is quite riveting.

here's the cover of the film:



I highly recommend it for history and romance lovers.

I sent this link to a good friend of mine who is a PhD doctrol candidate in Imperial Spanish Colonialism.  We had warm conversation on the said topic; mostly me asking questions in regards to the level of control and autonomy the Guardia Civil had from the Audencia General from the Imperial Prefect.

It appears, that most of the Spanish soldiers that were sent to the Philippines were creoles from the Viceroyalty of Nueva Espana and that the officers were fresh graduates from Madrid. Gonzallo, my friend who I discussed this with, told me that most of the soldiers expedited from Nueva Espana were veterans in suppressing native Indio guerillas in the Yucatan, namely of the Ahuatl tribes, which resisted Spanish assimilation and coercion for some time. In consequence, most of these soldiers that were veterans of the Indio Wars were effective in training Filipino conscripts into the Guardia Civil in pacifying Moro uprisings in Mindanao.

Quite interesting conversation. I shall add more as time passes.

Please share your views.

Here is a timeless classic. All wisdom, and all understanding comes from the mouth of Eternal Providence.

"Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever; wisdom and power are his. He changes times and seasons; he sets up kings and deposes them. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning. He reveals deep and hidden things; he knows what lies in darkness, and light dwells with him."
Daniel 2:20-22

Father,

I offer unto you my pains, my trials and my tribulations.
And that despite the difficulties that we face in this life, we remember, Father, that it is you who gives us these trials. That you are in all and through all.

Father, offer inside us sentiments of hope and forbearance. That we may find strength in the smallest of things and that we find preservation in our weakest moments.

Look past our sins, our faults and grant us mercy and peace.

We offer you this prayer, through Christ Our Lord.

Quote from: ms da binsi on January 07, 2009, 03:14:20 AM
it is "Seven Deadly Sin"  week Dodong!!!

mao bitaw na akong gi post kay it was very interesting...

di ba?

Very interesting bitaw ning thread, Ate Belle.

Thanks for starting this thread.

Mo add on pood ko ani later.

cooked food, silhiging, packing supplies, folding clothes, getting ready to get going on Mon.

(sigh)

Quote from: ms da binsi on January 07, 2009, 12:21:59 AM
I went to visit my aunt sa nursing home, mao ni akong nakita!


unsa kaha ija ipasabut ani?



ija vibrator? o ija husband??

im glad i have my camera handy all the time!

hahahha! 'te Belle!

do you mind if I share this picture with some friends?

Paper work and more paper work. Oh when will it end? lol.

Driving to Trenton today to pick something up; it's raining ice tho.

No snow? C'mon snow, come down.

Quote from: ms da binsi on January 06, 2009, 11:59:36 PM
Bitaw oi! to all of you...mag hsgut gani ta ug religion bisan asa or bisan unsa nga sitwasypn, dont generalize nga everybody has the same religion as you kay mao man nay maka conflict sa panag hiusa.

Mao bitaw na diri sa Merika nga giseparate ang religion kay para magka hiusa. Walay ma left alone sa suok kay sila Saksi ni Jehova gamay ra nga congregation kay sa mga Episcopalians nga nag baha...

To make it fair sa tanan nga molupyo, keep your religion in your house...ang mga mubo ra ug pangutok mao tong nakiglalis nganong giwala ang prayer sa schools and etc! now when you pray the Our Father sa School do you think mo pray ug Our Father si Akmed? nope. And you you think that would change Akmed's faith though hearing you pray the our father everyday? nope!

Respect one's faith! that is!

Kay only the hypocrite religious people would say they are correct and be saved! Thats very STOOP! each and everyone of us has his own faith on how to be save, and everyone of us wants to see heaven if the time comes. Pero lain lain man lagi ta ug karsada ug sakyanan.

Ang uban gusto jud ka pasakyun sa ilang bus nga pwerteng punoa, bibo kaajo sila but i want to travel alone in my mercedes! got what i mean?

So buy your own cars now, and travel safely...

Good message, 'te.

I see your point.

I stand by my point. And I will not delve into personal insults like some of us here whose pride has been affected.

o wow, winter garden?

Amazing, what does Kuya grow diay?

Na tambok na diay si Mocha eh? haha, cute pood. Lami diay siya i-kusi-on?




Rambo-cute

Talk about coincidence. I was just watching 'Seven' last night. ha,

So what dish are Valencianons able to cook the best?

Unsa man be?

What a great find. Thank you for sharing this, apothecary.

Please, sir, more..

haha, just a nice lively debate.

lol, glace, its more interesting (hilarious) when one misinterprets a quote that wasn't even supporting an argument.

This thread is good for vasodilation and brochoconstriction. lol.

Maka katawa pood ta.

to an unnamed toll operator,

The fee was 1. 75; I gave you 2 dollars and  you didn't give me my change back.

It's okay..your smile compensated for the quarter.

i happened to, by chance, watch an episode of 'Yellow Handkerchief' the other day. there was one character, her name escapes me though, who i found pretty cute.

Cute kaayo ang mata sa kaning mga koreana.

Lami i kusi-on.

haha the younger brother learns from the big sister.

Kummusta naman ka, 'te? How is Kuya doing? And Mocha the cuddly cat?

I love you too, Ate Ging!

Tita Alicia,

In the wholeness of my heart and on behalf of my family, we wish you a Happy Birthday. Wishing you all the best, continued health, peace of mind, and success this year and following years. Regards from my family to yours.

May our good Lord bless you!

Truly Yours,
Bran2x

Sir,

Good to know that our fellow Valencianons are celebrating si Senor Santo Nino also even though we are thousands of miles away. Maka humbling pood to hear that we all are thinking about the same thing

Ning ask ko sa ahong inahan unsay' nick name ni Tito Bartholomew--ingoon siya 'Oni' kono. Ooo ning sulti pood mi sa una--classmate man na si Tito Bartholomew sa ahong uncle--si Tito Alex. Haha naka smile pood ko to know that you know so much about the Salise family, sir!

I learn something new jud everyday. Taga new jersey man ni si Tito Bartholomew kono. Pero i never knew naa diay pood mga Namocatcat sa Florida. Good to know lang pood ni for future references pood, haha.

Cheers to you, Sir. I want to go back intawn for the fiesta in Valencia this coming Enero, pero dili man ko maka make it kai mo balik naman ko sa ahong skwelahan karoong 17th sa Enero. Ug mo balika ka para sa Fiesta sa Valencia, sir, please extend my warmest regards to our fellow Valencianons.

How i wish i could go back home. Pohon, lagi, maluuy ang Ginoo.


Regards lang sir,
Bran

Ignis aurum probat, miseria fortes viros

(Fire tests gold; adversity tests strong men)

I like that quote, pare.

here's another:


In virtute sunt multi ascensus

(There are many degrees in excellence)

I apologize to all the readers if we went off tangent. Back to the subject.

Humbly yours,
Lorenzo

Quote from: asianfairy on January 05, 2009, 10:20:46 PM
Hi SAtown and welcome to Tubag Bohol. Naa diay kas texas ron? kaila ba kaha ka ni Josefa Tagaro nga naa pod diha ron nagpuyo?

Daghan ko ug mga kaila nga Sales kay akong ex sa una Sales iyang mama. Uncle niya si Atty Isabelo Sales. Calle, morag kaila gyod ko nimo kay ang imong mga kaila close pod nako kaila.:-) taga Canmanico pod kas valencia?

Daghan sab kog mga classmate sa una sa highschool nga mga Sales apelyedo like Roman Sales.
Dong Bran taga New Jersey diay ka? Duol ra diay mo ni Beth?
ipangregards unya kos taga Valencia ha sa inyong pista diha puhon.

Kummusta Tita!

Oo naa ko diri sa New Jersey--sa south jersey, po.
Mo hold me sa fiesta sa Blessed Santo Nino karoon 9th, kai mo pick up man ko ang Blessed Santo Nino sa balay ni Tito Jan Palaca's place.

Of course I will extend your regards to everyone.

Kummusta naman ka dinha? Wishing you and your family a happy new year and a prosperous one at that! God Bless you Tita!


Yours,
Bran

Quote from: calle on January 05, 2009, 11:39:08 AM
kaila kung john kay nilansad man sad ug mayor kaduha, puros ra ba pildi tawn.

kinsa nga namocatcat? si fiscal niknik namocatcat? mayor na sya 1968 to 1972. si balite nakapildi nia. ija igsoon si fr. lily nga murag na pud diha sa US, ug si nong dodo.

Ning adto mi sa Celebration sa Blessed Santo Nino didto sa ila---Mr. Palaca. Bibo kaayo to kay daghang mga Bisaya ug naa pood ang tao taga sa Valencia.

Kaila ka ni Mr. Bartholomew Namocatcat? Naka meet ko nija didto. Amigo sija sa ahong pamilya.

Regards,

Quote from: hofelina on January 02, 2009, 11:19:05 PM
Play piercings!

Many thrill seekers indulge in this due to the natural endorphins that are secreted by the pituitary gland. I saw a documentary couple of months ago that showed the life of people who hang themselves vis-a-vis fishing hooks.

Yikes!

Interesting,

Tita Tess, so is this an example of 'Scratch my back and I scratch yours" in regards to Arroyo's neutral position of said case?

Political intrigue..yet again.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:23:52 AM
didnt you claim biblical scriptures in support of your answer in determining the birth of Christ?
yes or no

Again, an example of a communication gap.

You, Ray, are selectively reading text.

When I wrote that comment, I was addressing fdaray in our discussion about the Eucharist and its origin being biblical.

Christ's Birth was not addressed.

Had you read my post, you would not have made a communication misinterpretation.

Dare I say that you even read any of my posts at all in refute of your argument(s)?

Don't be so provincial.


Warm regards,
Lorenzo

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:34:22 AM
didnt you mean biblical in origin, the birth of christ?  or i may just be too tired today that im hallucinating?

You're hallucinating.

I was referring to the Catholic Tradition of the Eucharist being Biblical in Origin.

Now, Ray, if you read the entire thread from beginning, you would have known that instead of assuming i was regarding to the Birth of Christ our Lord.


In all due respect,


Lorenzo,

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:43:52 AM
so then lorenzo.... i hope you will also read what you have said and what  i have said.....

isnt pride a sin?  the problem lorenzo,, is that you cannot deny what you have written here....

goodnight.... and just a piece of advice...

dont base your arguments on the bible or any figurative literature for that matter when the question is factual...

LoL

This has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the argument that you even posted.

Nothing, none of your posts or claims was even substantiated..you were arguing just for the sake of argument--even despite the fact that i answered your own definition of time as being an abstract concept--and being 'useless'.

So, I beg to reiterate your most famous saying, "Stick to the topic."



Cordially,
Lorenzo

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:41:12 AM
my comment was intended for fdaray and you reacted...

why should i read the entire thread when we are talking about our discussion you and me?


you need endorphine... im happy...

LoL

Well considering that the central nervous system produces endorphins naturally, and produced by the pituitary glands--and are natural neurotransmitters secreted in mammals (in animals at that), I can say that I have my own supply.

Do you have enough?

E

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:39:31 AM
I have always thought that devoted Christians like you are men enough to admit what they have said...



back to the main proposition, you cannot base your arguments on bibical sense, since the question is factual...

arent Christians humble enough to accept this?

I am a Christian and I will accept this.. period...

Roy,

you just used a quotation that doesn't even substantiate your claim. On the contrary it refers back to the discussion I had with fdaray in regards to the Apostolic Tradition of the Catholic Church in regards to the Body of Christ and the Blood of Christ in Eucharistic Intake.

Which, in regards to the discussion--is supported biblically.



We did not even talk about time---THAT, Roy, was something you brought into the thread.

so please...I stand with my original argument. AND I think I've debugged your flawed argument(s).

Lorenzo,

Roy,

If you want to read the entire thread, start from the beginning and not 'page skipping'

hahaha!

Made me laugh there.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:32:14 AM
this is what youve answered....

Absolutely, and we know that, but nonetheless the spirit of the word is God-breathed.

As a catholic and as a christian we are all called to bear in mind its teachings. Again, I am answering the subject that was called in question, which was biblical in origin.

Regards,

so am i making this up? or what?

LOL!

I posted that in regards to the teachings of the Catholic Church in regards to the Blood of Christ and the Body of Christ. In Eucharistic tradition.

We were not even discussing time, lol

Good try, bud.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:15:28 AM
your scientific theories may be true.. since these are not yet laws.. can be disproven later on....


its your cup of tea... i have mine...

Ah, you conceded.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:20:10 AM
.................


your message was so simple to comprehend lorenzo...

that time has a beginning..and earth and galaxy ages....


but let us stick to the discussion..... lets remember why we have talked about time?

why?

Good!

Time has a beginning, and as it has a beginning it has an end.

The Universe, like time, will expand until it collapses upon itself.

Best,

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 05:08:33 AM
lets make this simple lorenzo... and please answer my question for the last time...

didnt you claim biblical scriptures in support of your answer in determining the birth of Christ?

or i might be hallucinating?

Where and when did I state that? Please, indulge me..

I actually posted an addendum to a comment MsDabinsi posted some 4-5 pages. In that post, I answered a misinterpretation. That Christmas and the date--is the core and center of the Liturgical Calendar. It begins the year, in the Annual Mass dates--and coincides with the celebration of Baptism, Easter, the Ressurection etc etc.

The post, Roy, was elucidating many in here to the logistics of the date.


Best,

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 04:56:32 AM
who was around when the big bang occured to conceptualize time? 

i dont argue on the beginning of time. as ive said. the earth ages.. thats fact.

But when i said time is fictional, on the premise to the discussion on the date of Christ..

it is.. why?

because time measurements were different.... and please, how can you base your argument on the bible on the exact date of Christ?  basing on descriptions  we are in different situations man?  different climatic conditions, different adaptation..

and to note, aesthetic is a critical judgement of the beautiful by kant has nothing to do with the discussion.. simang na sad.

Incorrect, you complete tried to debase Time. In your own words you called it 'useless'.
So please, bud.

Secondly, you said the concept of time began in AD, I merely added light to your comment by saying that you are arguing in humanistic viewpoint considering that many other civilizations prior to classical Roman Epoch had their own concepts of time.

My argument, Roy, is that Time begins not in the start of the AD epoch, nor does it begin in the beginning of different civilizations. You are being rather provincial. My argument is that Time begins in the Conic Apex, in parallel with Space itself. That is why the Universe is in constant expansion, that is why the common elements seen in the Periodic Table of Elements are also found in different planets (per se Mars) and in our own Moon where elements such as Zinc, Lead, Cadmium, Copper, etc are also found in the their terric surface. Same as in earth. This suggests a singularity and a common similarity in the chemical composition--which IS TRUE. Which therefore suggests that there was a gaseous phase--per se Hydrogen. Which facilitated the coring of materiel into planets. Now if we maintain and uphold that--and take into consideration the Cosmological Principle and the Theory of Relativity--it substantiates the Big Bang.

If you are having difficulty in digesting this, which in my opinion--is rather BASIC..then I only have a recommendation that you read more into it.


Best,
Lorenzo

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 04:56:32 AM
who was around when the big bang occured to conceptualize time? 

i dont argue on the beginning of time. as ive said. the earth ages.. thats fact.

But when i said time is fictional, on the premise to the discussion on the date of Christ..

it is.. why?

because time measurements were different.... and please, how can you base your argument on the bible on the exact date of Christ?  basing on descriptions  we are in different situations man?  different climatic conditions, different adaptation..

and to note, aesthetic is a critical judgement of the beautiful by kant has nothing to do with the discussion.. simang na sad.

I was not basing my argument on the bible, on the contrary, I am basing my argument on the Theory of Relativity and the Cosmological Principle, LoL

I think you are misinterpreting alot here, bud.

Quote from: ayessa on January 04, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Im sorry, its a proven fact that the definition of time only became universal after the death of Christ which is Anno Domini...  and please, no one recorded time during the big bang

Refute:

Incorrect, how is it a proven fact? Does everyone in the world agree to this? To be a fact or a Law, it must be substantiated or universally accepted.

And actually, The Big Bang began is estimated to have occured some 13.73 ± 0.12 billion years. Which is in basis of the Cosmological Principle, which states the isotropicity and the homogeneity of the universe. The present proofs that substantiate this is the Hubble-type of expansions observed in the redshifts in distant galaxies.

Quote from: ayessa on January 04, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
My main argument is that the discussion about time and its accuracy is useless since at first we have different time measurements compared to the time measurements during that time.

You are arguing the concept of time in terms of the social aspect, in terms of civilization and growth. In terms of the humanistic.

The discussion of time and its accuracy is not useless consider it is in equivalency with space. It is imperative to the understanding of the age of the earth, the age of the galaxies, imperative in calculating time shifts, calculating the Hubble Concept.

So please.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 04:37:42 AM


differnt time measurements
different climatic conditions
different human reaction and adaptation to climate

You are focusing too much on secondary and peripheral points that do not substantiate your claim.

Your claim was time is fictional. The word fictional is 'untrue' 'made up'.

To declare that Time is fictional is to completely debase the Theory of Relativity, to debase and to reject The Big Bang.

To completely de-legitimize the Schools of Physics, Astrophysics, Cosmology.

Your rhetorical statement of time beginning in AD is unfounded. Time begins in the apex of the Cone. In equivalency with space and the entire continuum.


Your arguments make no sense.
Too much puff and no proofs.

Social science does not equate Scientific HARD science.

Cheers,

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 04:37:42 AM
lorenzo

stop contradicting yourself

this were my claims
1. time is created by man hence it is fictional.  We have differnt measurements of time during the ancient civilization and during the time of christ.

2. please dont base your answers on biblical foundations when the question is factual.  this is misleading.

ang topic lagi. date sa birth of christ.... and kamot an nako .... bible basihan tungod sa descriptions...


again..

differnt time measurements
different climatic conditions
different human reaction and adaptation to climate


there is no argument on the beginning of time..l of course hahaha. there is a beginning of time...
of course, the earth is aging.  but do these support any of your claim.. wala


so stop the intellectual arrogance....

Roy,

It isn't contradiction since my argument is unchallenged. You're arguing on aesthetics and literary concepts.

You fail to understand the importance of scientific truths. Perhaps since you're far more in depth into the social sciences.

We are arguing concept of time. Man's concept of time changes according to his understanding. This can be seen in the limited understanding of man some a millenia ago or two. However, in the light of scientific understanding and the brilliance of Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, it brings understanding that time, and space begins at an point of origin. A beginning.

My friend, it is the very basis of Cosmology, as well as Astrophysics as we know it.

I would be the one to dare say challenge you on your understanding, perhaps you're thinking too much on the humanistic concepts.

Time is absolute. Aesthetics and philosophy is but something that is man-made.

Time and Space, is scientifically absolute and has a beginning. It is not fictional.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 04:32:35 AM
funny really...
the concept of time existed before the ancient civilization? so who conceptualized it?  hahahah God? and God told us that today is monday... or you settle to the definition of Genesis?


i enjoy this... hahaha

Time begins at moment of the Big Bang.

I was merely adding depth to your own argument. lol.

Agree with you, I love this discussion.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 04:30:41 AM
who told you that A.D. and B.C. is not used anymore when the Humbolt Universität zu Berlin School of Social Sciences still used it?  please dont say it when you are not sure.

so please

We in the scientific community do not use AD or BC any longer. The scientific community prefers to utilize a more secular CE or BCE.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 04:08:43 AM
we are not on the same level on the understanding of time. 

your "cut and paste "does not help much because your argument is the origin of time...  which is not our concern.  the gallaxy may grow, and the earth is aging of course.. nobody argues about that.  but this has nothing to do on what we have talked about.

It may be so, you're arguing on the concept of time and the definitions of webster. You're viewing it in aesthetic and linguistic point of view. Thematics.

I'm arguing on basis of scientific origin.

Secondly, I would like to refute your statement that the concept of time isn't being argued. On the contrary, its a hotly debated topic in Physics and Astronomy as well as Cosmology. You would be surprised to the level of discussion of said topic.

Quote from: ayessa on January 06, 2009, 04:08:43 AM
we are not on the same level on the understanding of time.  how is time actually defined? webster says that its a system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other, as past, present, or future; indefinite and continuous duration regarded as that in which events succeed one another.
and this system for all we know is created by man.  If I was early enough to be born in this earth, i could have also designed a different measurement too.

your "cut and paste "does not help much because your argument is the origin of time...  which is not our concern.  the gallaxy may grow, and the earth is aging of course.. nobody argues about that.  but this has nothing to do on what we have talked about.

Here in europe, its one hour plus in the winter and one hour minus for the summer. in asia its different. We dont have consistent measurement of time. Thats why, back to the issue on the time of the birth of Christ, this is not at all debatable, because they have different time measurements, and. an important note, the length of days and nights were different, climatic conditions were different.

How did this topic on time arose? it is when you based factual questions on biblical descriptions!!!
Our time now.!!! climatic conditions, time measurements are different.

so when the bible described that  the shepherd were lying on open fields, you cannot conclude its summer!!! for christ sake..

different time measurements,
different lenghts of days and nights,
different climatic conditions..
different human reaction /adaptation to climate

more than anybody else, you must know all these.  It is even hard to compare this winter of 2008-2009 to winter of 2007-2008.


any more cut and paste? i enjoy reading

The information I provided in the post was from a physics website, which I provided to answer your question of time itself. Your post declares that time began in AD as you quoted and the concept of time itself evolved. Or so how you meant to say it.

On the contrary, what I was trying to do, Roy, was proove to you that the concept of time existed even before that. Even in ancient civilizations such as in Sumeria, Mesopotamia, Egypt, Hittite, the Assyrian, even the pre-classical Nubian civilizations have their own concept of time and the beginning.

The classical Christian concept of time, which you tried to effervesce begins in what is now considered CE or formerly AD, which begins in  O. The year O.

The post that I shared, bears to mind the scientific and physical answer of the beginning of time itself. It bears in mind, Roy, that time and space and the spectrum that both occupy begins in the center of the conical concept of the Big Bang. Time did have a beginning, and it is thoroughly supported by Einstein's own Theory of Relativity.

I just like correct your misinterpretation of thinking that Time is nothing more than an abstract concept defined by man. Nay, time existed before man. Time existed even before the conglomeration and the propagation of common elements--which occurred after the Big Bang. (which I would share in detail if we were to discuss this in a physics thread, in all all due respect).

The information I provided and shared by 'pasting' nonetheless does not weaken my argument. Which I stated time and time again (no pun intended, lol).

Time has an origin. And time is not a human concept, in the view that you have.

Perhaps you have difficulty in understanding or digesting my argument?


Best,
Lorenzo

Precious,

I shall try to download it. The Battle of Baler is both a significant time line for the Filipinos and the Spaniards due to its military importance. Signifying the ending of 400 years of Spanish Colonialism--torn asunder.

Thank you for the recommendation.

Quote from: ayessa on January 04, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Im sorry, its a proven fact that the definition of time only became universal after the death of Christ which is Anno Domini.

Absolutely wrong.

We do not use AD or BC anymore, the correct usage is CE (common era) and BCE (before common era).

Additionally, time and space begins in equivalency in a spectrum. At moment of the Big Bang.

It isn't an abstract concept, as you view it in your mind. Time, additionally, isn't an aesthetic or figurative or literary concept.

So please.

Best,
Lorenzo

It answers your rhetorical question and it breaks your concept of time.

By all means we live in a world of technology.

Regards,

I forgive President Arroyo for her faults. And I am sure, she as a woman and as a Catholic Christian has to fight her own daily battles. What ever they may be. Just as like you and I. And any other individual.

I like these pictures.

She may be President of Philippines. But she remembers her place in life.

That she still respects and honors a Servant and Sheppard of God.

Norway Norway Norway.

Seems so very faraway.

BUT definitely so beautiful..what can i Say.




Looking good, Aleth Hazel.

Ate Ging,

I really liked that post. And I think I am like you in that regard.



Warm regards,
always,

The Philippine President meets with the Pontiff in a private audience.




Pope Benedict XVI recieiving the Republic Act--Abolishing the Death Penalty


President Arroyo and the Pontiff

performed by Selena

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVIhMQgoOvM&feature=related

excellent acoustic version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcfdH33NdZA

Haha. Calle do you know Mr. John Palaca? Naa na siya diri sa 'jersey.

Do you know Mr. Namocatcat?

Statue of Rizal in Madrid.
Considered as a 'Hijo de Espana Madre' by many Historians and apologists


Representative of the Spanish Cortes (Congress) and President Arroyo salute the statue of Rizal in Madrid.



Rizal is vindicated. In his life, he loved Spain as he mentioned Her in his writings as ,"Madre de Las Filipinas Islas." Rizal left this world, writing his last poem "Mi Ultimo Adios" and wrote it in Spanish as a way to share his love of Spain till the very end. Even in his death, he did not shout negatives to Spain, the very nation that he loved so dearly--equal to his Filipinas.

Had Rizal lived to see this picture, he would have been vindicated.

That, in the end, only after his death, is he considered and called by Spaniards as "Hijo de Espana Madre"

That said,

I still am impressed in the Imperial organization of the Spaniards in ruling the Philippines, particularly the level of efficacy in their order. That even before the seeds of doubt and revolutionistic feelings rallied through the masses of the Filipino soldier in service of the King of Spain and His Army; the level of lethality the Filipino showed in combat under command of the Spanish.

The suppression of insurgencies, the suppression of the Dagohoy Rebellion in Bohol, which was suppressed by mostly Filipino soldiers of the Guardia Civil. Additionally, the rapid action that the regiments showed.

When the British took the Philippines from Spain for a brief period, the Spanish Empire was unable to rally a reconquest for 2 years due to logistical problems. However, what facilitated the reclaimatory process was the vehement loyalty of the Filipino soldiers serving under Spain.

When the Spaniards invaded the Philippines to reclaim it from Britain, the Filipino Guardia Civil rallied to the Spanish Flag, and overtook Manila and overwhelmed the British defenders. It was a complete victory.

And I find it historically important to know that it was in all actuality the Filipino soldiers that defeated the British soldiers. A combination of Filipino and Spanish soldiers took Manila, but a great majority of those regiments were 'indio' conscripts.

Just interesting to know about it, don't you think?

Addendum,

So the Spanish Army in the Philippines included about actually 18,000 Spaniards in uniform and about 70,000 native recruits in service of the King.

At the outbreak of the Filipino Revolution, the Filipino soldiers mutinied. Switching allegiance from Spain to the Philippines, instead.

One of the reasons why the Spaniards lost to most of the ground battles with the Filipino Revolutionary Army was due to the shear military size of the Filipino Revolutionary Army.

Additionally, the Filipino troops were armed with the then-state of the art Spanish Mauzer rifles.

Filipino soldiers were able to rally to the cause so quickly due to the training the soldiers recieved from their Spanish officers. Strict and cold regimen. Which the Filipinos, ironically, used against the Spaniards in the brief Filipino Revolutionary War.

Ingenious, imo.

About the Guardia Civil in the Philippines:


The majority of the Guardia Civil were conscripted native 'indios' as were the private soldiers of the Spanish native regiments (69-73 or thereabouts) - indeed Rizal was shot by 'indio' soldiers of the 70th Regimento de Magallanes. I tend to take the view that though they were part of Spain's administration in the Philippines they WERE 'Filipino' soldiers racially no less than the kapampangans of Francisco Manalastas who fought for Spain against the British (at the same time that Silang, Palaris and Dagohoy were fighting against Spain) or, I daresay, the Philippine Constabulary, Macabebe and later Philippine Scouts who, some Filipinos would argue were instruments of America's 'imperial regime' from 1899-1946. While there are some even here who would want to deny or 'whitewash' these 'loyalists' they are as undeniably a part of Filipino history as De Lancey's, the King's Royal New Yorkers or the British Legion are a part of American history.

Membership as indicated was by conscription and one of El Filibusterismo (Reign of Greed)'s sadder storylines tells the story of a Cabeza de Barangay (headman of a small village) named Tales (TAH-les) whose futile attempts to protect his land against the avaricious friars eventually destroys his family as his daughter becomes a househelp to pay off his debt, is later raped by a priest and kills herself and his son, Tano, is conscripted into the Guardia Civil. Later on Tales becomes a feared tulisan (bandit) chieftain and in one of the last chapters he is killed by his own son Tano (known by then as Carolino, a nickname from service in the Caroline Islands penal colonies), a Guardia Civil sharpshooter.

Many of these native Guardia Civil went over to the revolutionary forces as did the native soldiers of the 69-73rd Regimentos - hence the greater reliance of the Spanish on Peninsular troops like the Cazadores, particularly during the second period under Polavieja (the Lachambre offensive in Cavite 1897). General Licerio Geronimo's Tiradores del Muerte wore uniforms very similar to the GC, perhaps because some/many of his Tiradores were ex-GCs.

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo views the beautiful mural depicting the customs and traditions of Filipinos during her visit to the Filipino Exhibit at the Centro Cultural de Conde Duque in Madrid, Spain

Good to hear this, pare.

And let justice be served in this case. No one is above the law, elected officials, especially. They themselves are culpable to the very laws that they pass.

The Military Map of the Philippines in Spanish Account.
A list of military units and their station



Text:
En 1896, año en el que se produce la insurrección filipina, el Ejército español desplegado en el archipiélago no sumaba más de 18.000 efectivos.
El despliegue español en Filipinas    

El Mando se componía única y exclusivamente de Jefes y oficiales españoles mientras que la clase de tropa era mixta de españoles y filipinos.
Totalizaba un total de 7 regimientos de infantería, 1 batallón disciplinario, 2 escuadrones de caballería, 1 regimiento de artillería de plaza, 2 baterías de artillería de montaña, 1 batallón de ingenieros, 1 brigada de Sanidad y 1 compañía de administración militar.
Las unidades se hallaban desplegadas en torno a la cabecera militar de Manila, en la isla de Luzón, y de Zamboanga en la isla de Mindanao.
Ésta última, junto al archipiélago de Joló, era la más conflictiva, al hallarse en sus aguas infinidad de piratas "moros" y por estar pobladas por diversos jefes locales que aprovechaban la falta de presencia militar española para romper los acuerdos a los que estaban obligados por los diferentes tratados . Se da la circunstancia de que el sur del Archipiélago, más conflictivo que el norte, era también el más desguarnecido, algo similar a lo que ocurría en la provincia de Oriente, en Cuba.
PULSA EN LAS ISLAS PARA VER MÁS

Había que sumar a estas fuerzas las unidades de la Guardia Civil, compuestas por 3 tercios indígenas y una sección de Guardia Civil Veterana (españoles) y 3 compañías de Carabineros, también españoles.
Desde España se enviaron 15 batallones de cazadores expedicionarios, numerados del 1 al 15, para sofocar la insurrección, con lo que en 1.898 la totalidad de las fuerzas españolas en Filipinas eran de 43.656 Jefes, oficiales y soldados.


In translation:

To sum up the entire message, when the Philippines was a Royal Colony of Spain, there were over 43 thousand Spanish officials, military units, constabulary forces in the islands. There were about 18,000 Spanish soldiers not including additional Filipino recruits in service of King and Country.

Most of the units were stationed primarily in Manila and Luzon and a significant force in Mindanao to quell the muslim insurrection.

There were units in the Visayas, though not so significant due to the fairly acceptable and cooperative nature of the Visayas Region to Spanish Rule. This translates in a fairly well assimilated Visayas to Spanish regimen.

The following was written about the Guardia Civil in the Philippines from a historic source:

LA GUARDIA CIVIL EN FILIPINAS

Para sustituir a los Tercios de Policía y Partidas de Seguridad Publica, el gobierno español redactó un proyecto de reglamento para el establecimiento de la Guardia Civil en Filipinas, que se aprobó el 24 de marzo de 1.868.

Se procedió a la formación de un Tercio para la isla de Luzón, compuesto de una Planna Mayor de mando con coronel Primer Jefe, Teniente Coronel jefe de Detall, 3 comandantes jefe de distrito ( comandancia ), dos ayudantes, profesor médico, maestro armero y cabo cornetas.

Los efectivos totales de 1.045 hombres, incluidos los jefes, daban el estado siguiente: 8 capitanes, 16 tenientes, 16 alféreces, 8 sargentos 1º, 32 sargentos 2ª, 64 cabos 1º, 64 cabos 2ª, 8 cornetas y 824 guardias civiles, dandose la novedad de que las clases de tropa eran indígenas tagalos y que constituyó este primer Tercio todo un éxito

En mayo de 1.872 se creaba el 2º Tercio para la isla de Mindanao y el 6 de abril comenzaba a prestar servicios el Tercio de la Veterana para la ciudad de Manila, capital de Filipinas.

Ambos Tercios, aparte de los servicios peculiares de orden publico del Cuerpo y auxilio en terremotos y tifones, formaron parte de varias expediciones a las islas de Joló y Mindanao en lucha contra " moros ", "Dattos " sublevados, tropas de sultanes indonesios, piratas chinos, tribus igorrotes, islas de Oceanía, etc.

En el año 1.895 se estableció el tercer Tercio para Nueva Écija completando el estadillo de la Guardia Civil en Filipinas hasta l.898 de 16 Jefes, 143 Oficiales, 534 Clases y 2.992 Guardias Civiles, siendo del total 26 de caballería y tomando los Tercios la numeración 20º, 21º y 22º correlativos con los de Cuba, Puerto Rico y España y la Guardia Civil Veterana de Manila.

http://www.eldesastredel98.com/capitulos/ejercito.htm

The Spaniards,


Spanish Officers in Manila


Filipino members of the Spanish Guardia Civil. Equivalent to the Constabulary Force of the day.


Spanish Soldiers (and Filipinos in uniform) marching to the Caroline Islands.
Military Contingent


Spanish Army marching in Manila.
With banners exclaiming, "Viva Espana! Viva El Rey" (Long Live Spain, Long Live the King)


Soldiers Marching in Manila


Spanish Officers and Filipino soldiers in the Spanish Army/Guardia Civil constructing a bridge.

Members of the Royal Spanish Army, and the Filipino Guardia Civil.

Great Pictures!

The following pictures were taken by the Spanish Army, showing the Filipinos in service of His Royal Spanish Majesty's Army in the Philippines. Circa 1880s.



Filipino Infantrymen---of the Guardia Civil


Spanish-Filipino Soldiers. Members of the Royal Spanish Infantry


Filipino Officers in service of the Royal Spanish Army.


Filipino Sailors in service of the Royal Spanish Navy.


Filipino Infantrymen of the Spanish Army.

More to come,

Los soldados de la Armas del Revolucionistas Filipinas

The greatest skill of any Surgeon. Is to treat the fetal, the neonatal.
That is why the Pediatric Surgeon stands on the pedestal of pedestals.
Anyone can remove an enlarged lymph nodes. It takes skill to remove an enlarged lymph node that is just developing.
--Dr. Stephens, M.D, Ph.D, F.A.C.S

Mike, I seriously am affected by this article.

Please update us on the result of this incident.

I pray that fair Justice is achieved.

Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas

(Happy is he who has been able to learn the causes of things )

Est autem fides credere quod nondum vides; cuius fidei merces est videre quod credis
--St. Augustine of Hippo

(Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe. )

Whether you are pregnant or are planning to get pregnant, you will want to give your baby a healthy start. During pregnancy, regular visits with your health care provider are very important for your baby and yourself. You will also need to drink plenty of fluids and eat a healthy diet. But, what you don’t expose your body to is almost as important as what you do.

It is well known that alcohol consumption, recreational drugs, and cigarette smoking increase the risk for premature birth, poor growth, birth defects, and behavior and learning problems. You will also want to limit or avoid caffeine and steer clear of certain foods, such as unpasteurized cheeses, milk and juices, raw eggs, raw or undercooked meats, and certain types of fish and shellfish that could carry food-borne illnesses like listeriosis and toxoplasmosis, which can be life-threatening to an unborn baby and may cause birth defects or miscarriage. Even common over-the-counter medications that are generally safe may be considered off-limits during pregnancy, as well as certain prescription medications because of their potential effects on the baby.

Drugs used to treat epilepsy have been linked with an increased risk of birth defects, such as spina bifida and heart malformations. A new study shows that pregnant women who take the epilepsy drug valproate may significantly increase the risk of their child developing autism, a complex developmental disability that affects a person’s ability to communicate and interact with others.

The ongoing study involved 632 children, almost half of whom were exposed to epilepsy drugs in utero. Of those children, 64 were exposed to valproate, 44 to lamotrigine, 76 to carbamazepine, and 65 to other epilepsy drugs or combinations of drugs. Forty-seven children were not exposed to any anti-seizure drugs. The children were tested for autism at one, three, and six years of age. None of the children had a family history of autism.

The study found that 7 of the children diagnosed with autism had mothers who took an epilepsy drug while pregnant; 4 of those children were exposed to valproate, while the mother of a 5th child took a combination of valproate and lamotrigine. Children whose mothers were taking valproate alone for epilepsy were seven times more likely to develop autism, compared to children whose mothers did not have epilepsy and were not taking any drug while pregnant. However, the risk seen with valproate was not seen with the other epilepsy drugs. “The potential risk for autism in this study was substantial for children whose mothers took valproate while pregnant, but more research needs to be done since these are early findings,” said study author Gus Baker, Ph.D., FBPsS, of the University of Liverpool in England.

The reactions of experts are divided. Page Pennell, M.D., director of the epilepsy program at Emory University in Atlanta, says the study suggests the need to “consider exposure throughout the entire pregnancy” and even before conception. Dr. Pennell says half of the pregnancies in the U.S. are unplanned, so women of childbearing age should steer clear of valproate unless it’s the only medication that controls seizures. “Most of these women unfortunately have to be on a medicine. But the idea is: women of childbearing age should be on another anti-epileptic drug.”

Conversely, Dr. Michael Goldstein, vice president of the American Academy of Neurology, says that while doctors are aware that some anti-seizure drugs can cause abnormalities in the brain, pregnant women with epilepsy often have to choose between the lesser of two risks. “Prolonged seizure could cause blood flow problems to the baby, which could cause injury,” he said. “We generally try to avoid valproic acid in women who might be pregnant. But for some women who have difficulty in controlling epilepsy, they’re better off taking the medicine than having seizures. The consensus is that seizures are worse for the babies than the medicine.”

Laureen Cassidy, a vice president for Abbott Laboratories, the makers of the brand name valproic acid drug called Depakote, echoes the point. “Uncontrolled seizures can cause permanent damage to the brain and for pregnant women can be fatal for both mother and child.” She added that “the Depakote product label makes it clear that it should not be used as a first-line treatment for women of childbearing age. For many women, however, Depakote may be the only effective seizure medication and that decision should be made between the patient and physician.” Raquel Powers, another spokeswoman for the company, said it’s a global drug and that its risks are well known.

Dr. Baker said, “women who take valproate while pregnant should be informed of the possible risks of autism and are encouraged to discuss them with their doctor.” He also urges those who are taking valproate not to stop their treatment without speaking to their doctor first.

Source: Healthnews.com

Stem cells can generate into many types of cells in the body. In a recent study Genentech scientists in San Francisco say they have grown entire prostates in mice using only a single adult stem cell.  The success of the study was made possible by identification of a genetic signature which distinguished stem cells from other cells. The information has not been confirmed in humans, but understanding normal cells should help with the understanding of how prostate cancer develops.

Some scientists consider that stem cells in normal tissues produce cancer. Study co-author Leisa Johnson, a senior scientist with Genentech said that has not been proven. Stem cells have several surface markers, but they are also on other cells, making identification difficult. The study authors found a new marker, CD117, combined with previously known prostate stem cell cancer markers. This allowed identification of a single, normal prostate stem cell. That cell was able to generate a functional prostate and was capable of renewing itself. This holds the promise of treatments and even cures for many diseases.

Johnson explained that it is important to define a normal cell compartment that can generate a tissue. Once that knowledge is available it would be able to identify the compartment that goes awry if cancer initiates. What is resistant, what is regenerating a tumor, is the same cell responsible for generation of normal tissue?

According to Paul Sanberg, professor of neurosurgery and director of the University of South Florida Center of Excellence for Aging and Brain Repair in Tampa “It’s another step showing that stem cells can be a root case of cancer, so it gives targets for treatment.”

Wei-Qiang Gao, Ph.D. also of Genentech said that same kind of cells carrying the same CD117 marker can be found in humans. According to Gao and colleagues two different research teams recently reported growing mouse mammary glands from a single stem cell. The finds add to this “hallmark advancement in the stem-cell research field.” Researchers grew their transplant cells in gel in the lab, and when the gels were placed inside the kidneys of immune-deficient mice, they grew into functional prostrate tissue.

There were 97 single cell transplants, and 14 developed functioning prostates. This may seem like a low percentage of success, but since it is the first attempt it is an extremely significant process.

Stem cells have had scientists extremely interested in recent years because of the potential to grow specific cells to replace damage or diseased tissue. The interest has also generated a lot of public controversy because the biggest focus has been on embryonic cells. Embryonic cells are “pluripotent” and can become any tissue in the body. There are “unipotent” adult stem cells which are already programmed to divide into specific cells. These were the cells used in this research. Isolating “unipotent” cells and getting them to regenerate into the desired tissue has been a major hurdle. Future medical research will show whether tailor made transplants can be grown from a patient’s own cells by using the findings of this study.

The prostate is a small gland located just below the bladder that helps make seminal fluid and expel semen. Prostate cancer is one of the most prominent cancers in developed countries. Even if non-cancerous prostates cause many medical problems for the aging male population.


Source: Healthnews.com

Some people seem to live life on the edge. From bungee jumping to walking a tightrope high above a city street, these so-called daredevils put their lives on the lineâ€"often with a high degree of recklessness. One of the most legendary daredevils was Evel Knievel. On New Year’s Eve Day, 1967, he jumped his motorcycle 151 feet over the fountains at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas. Thousands watched live as he missed the landing and took a torturous trip over asphalt and concrete. Everyone across the country was talking about it, speculating that he would probably die, and if he did survive he would never walk again. Knievel spent 29 days in the hospital, close to death at times. When he emerged, he announced that he would not only walk again, but his next great feat would be to jump across the Grand Canyon. Whether it was over cars, fountains or canyons, Knievel continued to jump, not knowing whether he’d live or die, until March of 1981. The millions who watched, either live or on television, had to be wondering: Why does he do it?

Reason can’t explain why risk takers keep coming back for more, but researchers at Vanderbilt University in Nashville and Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City think there may be a biological explanation. It involves the neurotransmitter, dopamine. Commonly associated with the pleasure center of the brain, dopamine provides feelings of enjoyment and reinforcement to motivate a person to perform certain activities such as eating and sex. This same mechanism is also responsible for the craving connected with chemical addiction as well as the “high” we feel when we do something daring. Previous studies in rats have shown that animals that tend to explore and take more risks in a new environment also tend to have fewer dopamine-regulating receptors, which monitor levels of the neurotransmitter and signal the brain cells to stop producing it when there’s enough.

To find out if the same is true in people, David Zald, a professor of psychology and psychiatry at Vanderbilt, studied the brains of 34 men and women. He gave them a questionnaire to access their thrill-seeking tendencies, and then scanned their brains using a technique called positron emission tomography to find out how many dopamine receptors the participants had. The researchers found that, in the risk taker’s brain, there appear to be fewer dopamine-inhibiting receptorsâ€"meaning a greater saturation of the chemical. This overabundance of dopamine predisposes them to keep taking risks, whether it’s spending too much money, drinking too much, driving too fast or even taking drugs.

“This is one of those situations where the data came out essentially perfectly,” Zald says. “The results were exactly as we predicted they would be, based on the animal data.”  The findings support Zald’s theory that, because their brains are not able to inhibit the neurotransmitter adequately, risk takers get an unusually big hit of dopamine each time they have a novel experience. That dopamine rush makes them feel good, so they continue with the same risky behavior or new behaviors, searching for that next high.

These findings may also help researchers find more effective treatments for addiction. If Zald’s findings are validated by future studies, medicines designed to replace the function of dopamine-inhibiting receptors could help bring dopamine levels down to normal and weaken their addiction. “We think a person who finds novelty and excitement more rewarding does so because he gets more dopamine release, or more of a boost,” says Zald. “But it’s one of the big controversies in the field of addiction research now.” Some experts believe that addicts suffer from a deficit of dopamine and self-medicate with drugs, while others think addicts’ brains make adequate amounts of dopamine but aren’t able to break it down and regulate it properly.

http://www.healthnews.com/family-health/what-makes-people-take-risks-2393.html

Discovery Channel (especially Discovery Health )


General Surgery or Family Practice?

Pardon my french, but this mayor is a lousy SOB.

I hope that justice is received for the victims, including the 56  year old father and the 14 year old kid.

This is totally unbelievable.

Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, but you are an elected official not some kind of King or Royalty.

Again, this man is a lousy pathetic S O B.

Pardon my french, but I meant every word.

Quote from: Gingah on January 05, 2009, 01:08:32 AM
bonding with nature before my xmas holiday ends

Very picturesque, Aleth Hazel.

Where is this taken at, if I may ask?

She looks like her dad. She has his facial phenotype, more or less.

Roy,

Good luck with the survey and the data analysis. Best of luck in your dissertation.

All the best,
Lorenzo

Addendum,

Allelopathy can stimulate or overstimulate the production of endorphins and hormones in mammals (this can include humans). Thereby causing hormonal imbalance.

The actions of a hormonally imbalanced individual--can, therefore, be translated in a superstitious community devoid of scientific understanding, of being some kind of manifest of a Diwata-Diwata or Diosa.

Best,

haha, Sir Balong,

It is always a fresh wind to us when we read your posts. I missed reading your posts, Sir Balong.

And am glad that your batteries were re-charged during this break.

Bran,

Quote from: ms da binsi on January 05, 2009, 12:37:09 AM
akong question to all of you...

nganong mo feel raman mo ug christmas on december? honest i find it BULL you know why? ug christian gani mo you always carry it in your heart all year round. why only express it in december? isnt it ironic? (not a song ha)

speaking of faith, kay wa man jud ta kabalo kanus-a sha natawo, why you celebrate it on december? is it because somebody told you so? is that faith? i dont think so. it is hypocrisy to me...sorry im just a straight forward.

hmmmm...

In all due respect,

We celebrate Christ Mass on December 25th because it is part of the liturgical calendar, part of the worship that is in Roman Catholicism. Extrinsic to this, it is also celebrated and observed in Conservative Protestant Churches, namely: Methodism, Lutheranism, Anglican, Presbyterian etc.

One celebrates on a daily basis, but it just happens that December 25th is central and key in the liturgical year. It is the starting point, so to say in Layman's terms. Then it progresses with the celbration of baptismal, then Easter etc. Per Annum continuant.

Do we care what the history of December 25th in regards to pre-Christian epoch? Of course not, we are not celebrating paganism nor do we propagate pagan culture, as paganism in Rome was defeated when the entire city became Christian with the arrival of the Ministry of Christ's message through Peter (Cephas).

Anyone over-analyzing that and delving into the pre-history is missing the entire point and meaning of CHRIST MASS.


Respectfully,
Lorenzo

Quote from: kiamoy` on January 05, 2009, 05:47:57 AM
Makati police are using used cooking oil mixed with a little diesel for their car fuels

ha, ingenious. What ever works, not to mention, easy on the wallet.

Roy,

Quantum fluctuations are genuinely spontaneous and intrinsic to nature at its deepest level. There is no deeper reason, no underlying causes that explain when a nucleus will decay. It just happens.

Best,

Quote from: ayessa on January 04, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Im sorry, its a proven fact that the definition of time only became universal after the death of Christ which is Anno Domini...  and please, no one recorded time during the big bang.. the scientists in Switzerland failed on their research.  This was in 2008 if you remember. and their experiment was not to measure how old the earth is, it was to discover how the earth was formed and how life began.

Astronomy? the revolution of the earth around the sun? who said that there is 24 hours a day, 365 days a year? Human beings, we created time.
how do you define fiction? something that is created, not discovered and hence time is not exact and it not a science.
Im not arguing on equivalency.  Time is created by man, not by nature. period. The carbon measurements used by anthropologist to measure how old an artifact is , is not accurate, and is only basing on approximation.   and theses measurements again are made by man, not by God.

My main argument is that the discussion about time and its accuracy is useless since at first we have different time measurements compared to the time measurements during that time.

Whether or not we celebrate Christmas on May because maybe Christ was born in May, the main point is that, Christmas does not even have a Christian origin as the main proposition states.

Im a Christian and I dont push my religion on other people.  I am at least happy that the spirit of Christmas unites the rest of the world Christian or not in a common celebration of love and giving.

This thread, by origin, will become biblical. There is a time and place to explain the scientific, but when one discusses the biblical, one must answer and address in biblical terms.

We are not forcing our views to anyone, on the contrary, we are sharing views. If anyone takes offense to that, then I merely have to say is to grow thick skin.

We share views. It is up to the individual to take it or not; nothing is forced in here.

So please.

Quote from: ayessa on January 04, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Im sorry, its a proven fact that the definition of time only became universal after the death of Christ which is Anno Domini...  and please, no one recorded time during the big bang.. the scientists in Switzerland failed on their research.  This was in 2008 if you remember. and their experiment was not to measure how old the earth is, it was to discover how the earth was formed and how life began.

Astronomy? the revolution of the earth around the sun? who said that there is 24 hours a day, 365 days a year? Human beings, we created time.
how do you define fiction? something that is created, not discovered and hence time is not exact and it not a science.
Im not arguing on equivalency.  Time is created by man, not by nature. period. The carbon measurements used by anthropologist to measure how old an artifact is , is not accurate, and is only basing on approximation.   and theses measurements again are made by man, not by God.

My main argument is that the discussion about time and its accuracy is useless since at first we have different time measurements compared to the time measurements during that time.

Whether or not we celebrate Christmas on May because maybe Christ was born in May, the main point is that, Christmas does not even have a Christian origin as the main proposition states.

Im a Christian and I dont push my religion on other people.  I am at least happy that the spirit of Christmas unites the rest of the world Christian or not in a common celebration of love and giving.

Direct evidence for a cosmic origin in a big bang comes from three observations. The first, and most direct, is that the Universe is still expanding today. The second is the existence of a pervasive heat radiation that is neatly explained as the fading afterglow of the primeval fire that accompanied the big bang. The third strand of evidence is the relative abundances of the chemical elements, which can be correctly accounted for in terms of nuclear processes in the hot dense phase that followed the big bang.

But what caused the big bang to happen? Where is the centre of the explosion? Where is the edge of the Universe? Why didn't the big bang turn into a black hole? To understand the correct picture, it is first necessary to have a clear idea of what the expansion of the Universe entails. Contrary to popular belief, it is not the explosive dispersal of galaxies from a common centre into the depths of a limitless void. The best way of viewing it is to imagine the space between the galaxies expanding or swelling.

The idea that space can stretch, or be warped, is a central prediction of Einstein's general theory of relativity, and has been well enough tested by observation for all professional cosmologists to accept it. According to general relativity, space-time is not a static arena, but an aspect of the gravitational field. This field manifests itself as a warping, or curvature, of space-time geometry, and when it comes to the large scale structure of the Universe, such a warping occurs in the form of space being stretched with time.

A helpful, albeit two-dimensional, analogy for the expanding Universe is a balloon with paper spots stuck to the surface. As the balloon is inflated, so the spots, which play the role of galaxies, move apart from each other. Note that it is the surface of the balloon, not the volume within, that represents the three-dimensional Universe.

The notion that the physical Universe came into existence with time and not in time has a long history, dating back to St Augustine in the fifth century. But it took Einstein's theory of relativity to give the idea scientific respectability. The key feature of the theory of relativity is that space and time are part of the physical Universe, and not merely an unexplained background arena in which the Universe happens. Hence the origin of the physical Universe must involve the origin of space and time too.

I think you are misinterpreting time in reference to equivalency with space and quantum mechanics with the poetic notion of Time in the Humanities and Artistic regard. If so, then, of course, you are arguing in a different level.

But where could we look for such an origin? Well, the theory of relativity permits space and time to possess a variety of boundaries or edges, technically known as singularities. One type of singularity exists in the centre of a black hole. Another corresponds to a past boundary of space and time at the big bang. The idea is that, as you move backwards in time, the Universe becomes more and more compressed and the curvature or warping of space-time escalates without limit, until it becomes infinite at a singularity. Very roughly, it resembles the apex of a cone, where the fabric of the cone tapers to an infinitely sharp point and ceases. It is here that space and time begin.

Once this idea is accepted it is immediately obvious that the question "What happened before the big bang?" is meaningless. There was no such epoch as "before the big bang", because time began with the big bang.

It is quite obvious that time began in the big bang, and the big bang is not deniable, I say this as a Medical Scientist. In consequence, just because there was a technical malfunction in 2008 in analysis of a this does not disprove the Big Bang, which is and is validated by Astronomical-Astrophysical Science. We, the Scientific community, may not have the technological precision to assess this yet, but the concept and the theory itself is unchallenged.



Colloquially,
Lorenzo

PS. read more about it:

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/13/thinking-about-time-before-the-big-bang/

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