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Thanks Ging, Lumine and Tita Birdie. God bless you all!

It's almost 11 pm here and friends have just left after a party they've thrown  offhand at my place.

It feels awkward to blow birthday cake candles when you're 44. But can't refuse the giver's request--whose real gift is the young feeling that goes with the gift.

One becomes less fretful in gaining age when he also gains friends. Although I am not contantly logged to TB, I am certainly thankful to the circle of friends here who have been with me through the seasons of life.

Thanks Hazel, Mike, Paul, Manay Tess, Bambi and Kiamoy. God bless you all!

By the way, Gener, if you don't mind my asking, when and where did you stay in Japan for a year?

Three of the guys I deeply respect here at TB--Jun, Macky and Gener--in one neighborhood. That, plus this virtual interaction here at TB, should ease the pangs of loneliness for you guys.

With most of the world under the pall of recession, we can still count our blessings. Japan is wading deeper into recession, with mounting bankruptcies (mostly in real estate, raising fears of a repeat of the subprime crisis in the US) and layoffs (Japan's richest automaker Toyota is shedding some 3000 employees). The only upside is the strengthening yen, which is a windfall for Filipinos here. But this could only last until the strong yen further impacts Japan's exports, which has already been adversely affected by the shrinking EU and US markets. What use does one have for a strong yen if he is jobless?

We're all bracing ourselves for any eventuality. Home always beckons, and I think my little plot in Panglao needs weeding anyway.

Now you don't only seem like a kindred soul, you're like a long-lost bro. Ima demo Nihongo o yoku oboete iru mitai desu ne. (For the benefit of other readers, let me translate this: You still seem to remember Nihongo very well.) So how's life in the desert? I'm starting to bundle myself up in layers of coat, as winter is just around the corner. God willing, I'll make a brief escape to Bohol next week. I'll catch up with the kids even for just a week. Sadly, can't be with them in Christmas... It's really hard to be an absentee father, especially in times like the Yuletide season.

Bro, I'll certainly reserve umeshu (plum wine) and cabernet sauvignon for our beachside karaoke EB in Bohol. Just set the date.

Aside from our common experiences away from home, you seem like a kindred soul. I think that is why you seem to have found a natural affinity with the Boholanos in this forum. You're in good company here, brod. Have you been to Bohol? Try to bring your family here for your much-anticipated time of bonding... You'll surely  feel at home because Boholanos are very warm and friendly. I certainly could share that karaoke mike with you, perhaps over red wine too. And by the way, you have an excellent Japanese teacher.

I am neither a fan nor a foe.

But I think our most well-traveled president has taken too many flights, overseas and domestically. This self-prognostication simply seems like a flight of fancy.

She should stay put on the ground for a while. Why, even Disneyland is smarting from this global recession!

Hi Gener,

After having been away for so long, I am pleasantly surprised to find you here in the forum. Nice meeting you. I am sure many people are enriched by your input... For several months now, since my wife and I decided to bring our three kids back to Bohol, I have experienced many of the OFW pyschological syndromes that I only used to read about, including your own account.

Luckily, Japan is only four and a half hours away from Cebu. I try to be with my kids in Tagbilaran every three to four months, even if only for a week. My wife has also learned new trades to pay for her airfare to be with me here as the situation allows (after studying how to make Christmas decors in Bohol, she offered her decoration services to Filipino shops and restaurants here and was able to recoup her travel expenses).

Although I was worried about the possible emotional and pyschological dislocation of the kids, I found out that I underestimated their ability to adapt. After less than a year, they have immersed themselves in their Filipino, nay Boholano, roots. Their halting Tagalog is now near fluent. They have learned to manage their own allowance and are becoming emotionally independent. And most of all, they have absorbed the sunny disposition of Boholanos. They're still struggling with the academic adjustment, but I think they are getting by.

Still, there is nothing like being together as a family. I am hoping that in a year or less, I will be able to make Bohol my base, as I experiment with internet technology to keep my client network and business contacts here.

Grace,

I am sobered by this thread. We used to just hear people recall the valedictory words of loved ones. Now you've actually recorded it on this thread...

For the grieving family and friends, this only reminds us that every moment should be lavished with love.

I only know Orchids by the most common nickname in Japan, a bit of the real person by her middle name, and a lot by her vegetables, flowers, gardens and her obra maestra on computer canvass, and mostly by the words exchanged about life in Japan and her cuddlesome brood... I talked to her once on the phone, and her voice confirmed the sadness that I've always felt was in her heart.

I was about to tell her that my kids enjoy life in Bohol immensely, as she was waiting to see how my kids fare. Perhaps she was thinking of sending them there as well? And last month, she talked about a possible EB with Aira when they come down to Tokyo Disneyland.

Life's short. I am really sorry especially for the kids. Let's hold our loved ones' hands and hug them. I never got to meet Aya, but her death makes me feel as though I owe my loved ones a big, big hug...

Hi Mari,

We went through the same pain in the past. It was only a three-month old fetus but Paolo cried a lot because he wanted a baby brother so badly he already had a name for him--Benigno Marco. God's ways are unfathomable, but from where He is, His plan for all of us is moving as envisioned. May God supply you the strength to endure this sad event.

Can't entrust the Philippines to Gloria, so hand it over to George? Wait a minute.

With the imminent breakdown of the US financial system, following the fall of Lehman Brothers, and the teetering of such revered financial institutions as Merrill Lynch and AIG, I believe the heydey of US hegemony is over. It is mired in Iraq and Afghanistan--which is a culmination of a history of overarching geopolitical expansion and alliance-making that it can no longer sustain.

Granted, the Philippine government is corrupt and inept. But is a government that misallocates resources to finance foreign wars at the expense of its basic infrastructure (remember what they said about the Minneapolis Bridge collapse), or is so busy policing the Middle East that it is unable to cope with the surge in its own domestic crime and random violence, or is so preoccupied with pitching capitalism to Russia and China that it is caught off guard by the free-enterprise subprime debacle at home, really a better alternative? Come on.

Dong Lorenzo, I, too, mourn for the 10,000 children and adults dying from preventable diseases and hunger in the Philippines. To save these poor souls quickly, I think the Japanese government, with the highest life expectancy in the world and state-of-art medicine would do a much better job. After all, devoid of military power, it certainly seems more acceptable than the gung-ho US and geographically closer to home, to boot.

But I simply wonder how I could trust even the Japanese government to save 10,000 from poverty when it is so helpless in the face of a spiking suicide rate that exceeded 33,000 last year and is still rising...

Traveling more frequently now between here and Bohol, I simply can't help but be amazed that if I put a tag price to my joy and well-being, it costs infinitely more in yen than in peso.

Where I am, life is comfortable, too. But I never think of trading the freedom, sunshine and simple life back home with the pall of everyday life here where every yen of comfort is almost worth one's sanity.

This may not be the most rational argument for me to say "No, thanks" for making the Philippines an adjunct of some first-world country. But I can't quantify my joy when I hear Celine extol a whizz kid from the Philippines named Charice, or small-town Manny Pacquiao demolishing international boxing ring icons, or a Filipina CEO revitalizing Starbucks in Japan when the company is retreating everywhere else...

Leave the Philippines to the Filipinos, please. (Yeah, Belle, as if the US is willing to take us, anyway.) Cheers!

The pasture always looks greener on the other side of the fence. And it's always tempting to just break down the fence and let the next-door master lord it over us in exchange for the green.

The trouble is that when we finally get what we think we want, the green on the other side is very likely not as verdant as we thought.

I've lived in Japan for about two decades. This is a beautiful, orderly, well-disciplined country. But I am not inclined to invite them to fix the bedlam that Philippine society is and to replicate their tree-lined streets, impeccably polite manners and sensitivity of political leaders to opinion polls.

Don't get me wrong. I wish for our president to have even half the sensibility of Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda or his predecessor who offered to bow out of office because of legislative deadlock and low poll ratings.

I wish for wayward government officials to answer for malfeasance of even P5,000 of public funds or for receiving gifts inappropriately, as they do in Japan.

I wish we could even have half the discipline and the unity for community endeavors that the Japanese have.

But I am not willing to forfeit and negate the history, the struggles for independence, the culture, the sentiment, the identity, the sense of a hometown to return to in exchange for a perceived better life under a foreign political order.

I have seen how the Philippines and even Bohol have made great economic strides despite the daily political fray. Poverty is still an eyesore--and I wish they could just train the Badjaos at the Tagbilaran Port in more self-dignifying livelihoods.
 
But I have seen legions of homeless in Japan (and I'm sure in the US, too) flung away from reach of this rich nation's social welfare. I am kept on edge by news of firefight in the Mindanao, but I am even more nervous when I am in huge crowds here in Tokyo where anyone can just snap and stab people randomly (another bloody incident here the other day)...

Sadly, the green we see from afar is not really as green from upclose. And between two imperfect worlds--or between two sides of the fence--I'll choose the one where my heart really is.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Wall Street had its worst day since markets reopened after the September 11 attacks as fears about the U.S. financial system's stability surged on Monday after Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy and insurer AIG struggled for survival.

The day followed one of Wall Street's most agonizing weekends ever, which saw the demise of Lehman Brothers and forced Merrill Lynch (MER.N) to accept a takeover by Bank of America Corp (BAC.N).

But Sunday's barrage of shocking news was no exorcism for anxious investors and traders. As concerns about AIG's scramble for capital mounted, the Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. government has asked Goldman Sachs (GS.N) and JPMorgan Chase (JPM.N) to lead a lending facility of $70 billion to $75 billion for the insurer.

Financial services companies' shares led a broad and steep decline in major indexes as investors worried about the impact of the latest twists in the credit crisis on the economy and the outlook for profits.

"The turmoil continues," said Robert Francello, head of equity trading for Apex Capital, a San Francisco hedge fund.

"And it seems to be people underestimated the impact of AIG and what the fallout of that could be."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080915/bs_nm/markets_stocks_dc

Hi Jun,

I was in Tagbilaran from Sept. 3 thru 10 in an unplanned trip as the kids refused to receive my calls or appear on webcam unless I showed up in person. Lynne manned the office here in Japan meanwhile. She'll be back in Bohol late this month or early next. It seemed just like a whizz, despite the fact that I was practically just cooped up at home with the kids. HNU coincidentally had Friday and Monday as holidays, which gave us 4 straight days of bonding at the malls, public market and the beach.

I passed by your office but Gelyan and Paul were on errand nearby. Ryan gave me a ride around town on his motorbike. We saw Gelyan and Paul later, as well as Simplylee and her dear hubby on our way to ICM.

This interview is a delightful read. I was also out of the country for just about as long, and like you, am longing to start something back home that would make use of my experiences and networks here.

I saw a lot of encouraging developments in Bohol. As I returned to Japan, I googled news on Bohol and there's a recent article in Malaysia and two articles in Daily Inquirer that simply rave about Bohol. Bohol will certainly take the spotlight when it co-hosts the UN Tourism conference with Cebu in October. I hope to meet some Bohol tourism stakeholders at the Japan Association of Travel Agents (JATA) in Tokyo this week.

Should there be points of convergence or areas for cooperative endeavor in the future, I certainly look forward to working with you.

Heard you'll be home within the month?

55% believe women can be happy without marrying

The Yomiuri Shimbun

Fifty-five percent of people think "women can lead a happy life without marrying," while 39 percent do not share this view, according to a survey conducted by The Yomiuri Shimbun as part of a yearlong series of polls about Japanese.

This is a marked increase from the 26 percent of respondents who answered likewise regarding a similar question asked in 1978. In that survey, 50 percent disagreed with the statement.

This shows a pronounced change over the past 30 years in the way people perceive marriage.

"Views on marriage" was the theme of the survey conducted via face-to-face interviews on Aug. 9-10.

Thirty percent agreed with the statement "It is desirable for men to concentrate on work, and for women to devote themselves to the home after marriage," while 68 percent disagreed.

The 1978 survey asked people whether "men pursuing a career and women looking after a home and family brought happiness to both." Seventy-one percent of respondents agreed and 22 percent did not.

The view that a man should work while his wife stays at home has rapidly lost public support.

In contrast, 65 percent of people agreed in the current survey that "it is better to get married," compared with 33 percent supporting the view "it is not always necessary to get married." The result indicates that the concept of marriage is a welcomed one.

The percentage of people who believe it is better to be married jumped 11 percentage points from the 54 percent who agreed with the same statement in the 2003 survey--showing a rapid increase in the number of people who believe it is desirable to be married.

(Aug. 28, 2008)

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 23, 2008, 11:15:12 AM
Tinuod jud na Bene san, usa ra jud ka smile. Abi gud pod nimo kanang giingon ni Dodong nga  clinical  depressive people, mo isolate man sad na sila gud. Mao nga di sad nato mapakitaan sa atong mga smile. Pastilan!

I remember you having talked about your own experience with depression. It's good to be aware of this. I myself occasionally experience depression, ingon nila midlife crisis daw. I think we all go through this in varying degrees. It helps to be part of a small group or community, in my case a Christian fellowship. I used to just jog when I get the blues, and physical exercise somehow lifts up my spirit. Now I just jam with the music team at church. We share or study new songs. The experience is soothing and cathartic. Being able to talk out one's problems with a trusted friend or a spiritual mentor is also important. You're right, when a person is depressed, he tends to withdraw and believe the weight of the world is entirely upon him... There are many who are begging for just a day or two of their life to be with their loved ones, and yet some people want out before their time. Let's reach out...

Quote from: teng on August 23, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
wala may maminaw Ms. D....ignored!!!

Teng, ikaw man daw di managad.

People feel isolated because they think nobody wants to listen or talk to them... Siguro usa ka ngisi ang kinahanglan to break that wall of isolation and make this world a friendlier place.

If not dealt with properly and swiftly, suicide can turn from being a personal to a social problem. Now that the media has exposed this alarming trend, the government should follow suit with a hotline to counsel those contemplating suicide. The trend has to be analyzed in terms of demographics, expressed and suspected causes, social conditions, etc. With background information, counselors can prepare adequately.

A spike in suicides is usually observed following highly publicized suicide incidents, especially when victims are well-known. This happened in Hongkong when the pan-Asian superstar Leslie Cheung jumped off Mandarin Hotel. This also happened in Japan with lesser known showbiz personalities.

We who live or strive to live in the light, let's share a smile, a happy song, an extra cent, an ear, a greeting... All earthly pain is short-lived. Suicide is the fastest way to make that pain eternal.

Is she famous? She has a crystal-clear voice, impeccable rhythmn, and calm, soulful interpretation.

She thinks I'm hiding secrets when I'm quiet and relentlessly cajoles me to talk. She doesn't understand that men simply have inviolable profound moments of silence.

She takes hours to fix herself up in front of the mirror, and I never say a thing. But when she's ready to go and I just beg for a few minutes to finish a sentence on a document or shut down my computer, she frowns and says "You had all the time to do that while I was dressing up."

I'm presently reading an interesting book called the Cat and Dog Theology by Bob Sjogren and Gerald Robison.

Given the immense popularity of "health and wealth" preaching, which teaches that the focus of our worship life is mainly all about us and secondarily only about Him, I am glad that a sense of balance is being restored in the way Christian literature interprets Scriptures and portrays God.

Yes, God's plan is not always for us to live a comfortable, soft and easy life. I cringe when I hear preachers say that one is so blessed when he has a new house or car, or gets a pay raise (perhaps to boost the church coffers).

Like Samuel Rutherford, God's plan sometimes includes a life of extreme discomfort, pain and injustice for Godly men to radiate His glory even through valleys of death.

Hi Belle,

They say a picture speaks a thousand words. But the images that we capture reflect as much our inner eye.  Thus, I see a lot of what you care for--peace, serenity, long-lasting friendship and companionship, green... Show me a photo that you take and you also show me a part of you.

Quote from: Lorenzo on August 23, 2008, 02:39:52 AM

This seems pretty straightforward yet it has nonetheless been met by opposition. An English scholar by the name of Richard Tawney contests the causal relationship between religion and economics. He points to empirical evidence revealing a Protestant repudiation of Capitalism over the course of history.

Which side do you agree with? Firstly, does religion shape society or society shape religion? Secondly, is the protestant ethic responsible for capitalism or are other, more important variables at play?

From a purely logical point of view, empirical evidence appears not to support this proposition. Look at Japan, China, Thailand, South Korea, India--all robust capitalist societies with negligible Christian, let alone Protestant, population. Even our very own Philippines can stand as a stark example of a wheeler-dealer (more like a tingi than big-time capitalist) free enterprise society that seeks more spiritual guidance from the pope than Protestant ministers.

The relationship seems to be more obvious between the political and the economic system. China, although still nominally communist, has considerably relaxed its political control to sustain the vibrancy of its capitalistic economy.

I would venture to say that the prevalent spiritual and religious thoughts in a society influence its political system, which in turn influence the economic system.

Protestantism, which has myriad denominations and diverse worship forms, is consistent with pluralistic societies that is the base of democracy. But other religious thoughts that teach tolerance and peaceful coexistence like Buddhism and Shintoism are just as compatible with democracy--hence Thailand, Japan and South Korea.

Therefore, it seems clear that Protestantism is not a necessary and sufficient condition for the emergence of a capitalism.

Instead of saying, "Please put your dirty socks in the laundry basket," they exclaim,"You do nothing but make a big mess of this house just because you have a 7-day 24-hour maid."

Instead of saying, "Let's go out for coffee, just the two of us," they'd say, "You're as cold as ice, you're getting harder to live with, you have time for everything and everyone else except me."

What an inspiring message! Just as I am about to fall into my routine, almost resenting the monotone of a task at hand, this message has lifted up my spirit. Thanks!

I'm happy that TB is back through our silent benefactors. I'm even happier that TB is back through the beneficence of one who I thought we'll be missing for good. It's amazing that traffic to this site is immediately back to normal, despite the fact that process of relocation is apparently going through minor technical glitches. I thought it's my computer working slow when pages take a little time to open.

I hope the few days we've gone out of one another's orbit have made us realize how important we are to another. From here on, wala na untay mag bye-bye except if you're coming home for an EB with lots of pasalubong. Cheers!

Wow, I don't have to see the smile on their faces to know that they have a full, happy life. Just look at the way their leisurely walk is almost choreographed and their hands clasped together. They say we really have to cultivate our companionship and friendship with our spouse because he or she will be the one we'll continue to walk with long after our children have grown up and left us for their own families.

It's pathetic how our best Filipino teachers end up teaching children in other countries because they cannot feed their children with what they earn back home.

It's even more pathetic how many of them end up feeding children in other countries literally as maids and nannies if only to be able to feed their own.

My own mother was an English teacher, and midway, she gave it up to work for almost the same pay in government but with lesser workload and stress.

Quote from: EL MUNDO on August 12, 2008, 04:06:59 PM
GEC, daghan nagduda nga ikaw ug ako kay usa ra! hahahaha paila na oy...

EM, hadlok na siya i-expose nimo.

Quote from: whoami on August 12, 2008, 03:37:28 PM
MR. JUN AYAG, i salute you. i am now fighting my last battle in this website. freedom of speech. the moderators here are playing favorites. ipa losot nila ang ubang replies unya kanang aho nga mao ra gihapong thought. e modify. i dont like it. wa man ko mag binastos dinhi. so now this gladiator is bowing before you my emperor. if i perish, it's okey. i go down fighting.

usa ka sa mga lig-on nga haligi dinhi sa TB. usa ka ka bolanon nga nag hatag ug ka dungganan sa atong probinsya. you are one of my idols here in TB. it's only now that i let you know my thoughts because i fear the time has come. i am "almost" saying GOODBYE to TB. hihihihi

You have enlivened the exchange of thoughts here at TB. So I, for one, would really be happy if you stay. I believe this forum does welcome duels. But don't fight as a gladiator, for you will be fighting only to entertain others. Fight as a warrior, and you can choose your battles. Dili tanan nga isyu ug tanan nga tawo kinahanglan patulan. This way, you'll outlast everyone else, and live a long, happy life. Cheers!

Must be the midsummer heat. Temperatures and temperaments are soaring! Na-busy man ko sa panagat ug panginhas so I came late in the day to find this payag with two less lonely people. How ironic for a thread to start with the resolution of a disharmony only to spawn another disharmony, resulting in two departures to date. And I've always found this payag a very relaxing place to hang out in!

Personally, I respect the expression of individuality in this forum through words and images. But let us always remember that one's freedom ends where another one's freedom begins. This simply means we should learn to live with one another in diversity, and welcome only creative and not destructive disagreements.

Gakadaghan ta, gakabibo man unta, kay every perspective is unique. While we try to exercise self-restraint in expressing ourselves in ways that others may find offensive, let's also exercise self-restraint in publicly shaming others.

Cheers! Love you all guys and girls!

Daghan kaayong salamat sa inyong tanan for providing me a lot of encyclopedic info. I think by the time I'm done with this work, we can compile a glossary of Visayan words used in fishing.

Thanks! Mubalik ra unya ko.

Sori ha, pasil-ip sil-ip lang ko kay busy. Patabang ko otro.

Ing-ani diay ang gisulti sa bata nga anak sa mananagat:

"Tungod sa ilang pagpanguskus, ang among mga guso nangaputi, nadaot, nangaluto."

(Two terms I don't understand here.)

Unsay isda nga lumpi?

Quote from: orChids on August 09, 2008, 03:32:25 PM
Unsay lain nga term sa sibot?

Aya, wa ko sabot unsay sibot. Pero naa na pud ko lain pangutana. Unsay kuskus? Murag paagi o gamit sa pangisda gihapon.

You've blessed my day. The songs I know are my faves. I am going to choose from among these for our Sunday praise and worship.

GEC, now I see why you prefer to stay the way you are. Anonymity makes one invincible to pain.

Am sad to read this first thing in the morning. Seems like nothing good lasts forever, in life as in Tubag Bohol... Just to think that Mari has poured her soul into making a digital collage of all the fond memories of you girls. The All About EB section is the hottest site in this forum... I've just talked to you once, Asianfairy, and I could tell from your voice that you are a kind person.

Quote from: raldampong on August 07, 2008, 08:40:47 PM
tugub sa gugma ( puno sa gugma )na limas sa gugmang gui atay.

naa poy word nga Tukob.

Ang manok gui tukob sa Milo'o.

Ang piso gui tukob sa Iro.

Ang Iring gui tukob sa Ilaga. HEHEHE sakto ba ni?

Bay,

Daghan salamat sa mga halimbawa sa paggamit sa word. Paminaw naku na-bright naku gamay sa bokabolaryo sa Bisaya.

Quote from: Barbaro on August 07, 2008, 02:14:42 PM
tugub na.. kinahanglan limasan na.. tubig nga misulod sa sakayan..

Barbaro,

Daghan salamat. Kung ing-ani ang pasabot sa tugub, maayo gyud pagkasumpay sa uban nilang gisulti.

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 07, 2008, 09:52:07 AM
Bene san di ko ka send nimo PM or messages, i have something to ask, very important...

Empty na tanan. Basig pwede na.

Jez,

Condolence. There's a place up there where human tragedy is a bright strand of His glory. His grace is sufficient to carry you through these trying times.

Quote from: insurectus on August 07, 2008, 05:07:29 AM
yes lambay is a kind of crab daghan man gud ni klase
naay alimango, kasag og uban pa kasuway jud ko tawn
panguha ani sauna kanang magtunob tunob sa kalusayan
kanang dili pana-on

Thanks. As I said, this is a running inquiry. Nia pa.

Unsay meaning sa tugub, as in "Si Papa tugub na kaayo."

Quote from: grazie7y on August 06, 2008, 12:15:23 PM
Isn't lampay a kind of shell?  I am just thinking aloud.  Just ignore me, Bene san, kay na intresado na pod ko sa mga pangutana nimo dire although I am not much of a help.

You're probably right, Ging, kay ang conversation sa mga bata ani nga scene panginhas man. Thanks!

Quote from: slackware on August 06, 2008, 12:28:09 PM
basig lambay! heheehhehe

Unsa may lambay? Basig kadeperensiya lang sa dialect pero mao ra.

Quote from: orChids on August 06, 2008, 11:09:31 AM
Ang tirong Sir Benne,group man ni sa mga rebelde.

Base sa context, mao siguro ni ang pasabot. Naa ni sila sa Bohol nga grupo? Sige man hisgutan ang Talibon.

By the way, the title of this TV documentary is "Living as a child in Asia."

I am not even halfway through this project, but I could forsee that this will be a realistic portrayal of the lives of coastal children in Bohol.

This gives us a first-person perspective of poverty among marginalized fisherman in poor Asian localities. Children have an awareness of the illegality of dynamite fishing, but they seem to have a scripted justification of why their fathers are doing it. Luoy baya pud kaayo.

Quote from: orChids on August 06, 2008, 10:02:11 AM
I remember when  my Lola always told me to be a good girl or else I will be eaten by 'tirong'?
Hayy,olden days.Natsukashii kotoba.

Mangaon o makasakit ba ni siya nga isda kay murag nahadlok man ang bata gaistorya?

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 06, 2008, 06:31:57 AM
Na unsa gud ka Bene oi! wa naman nay pagka human???

Work in progress kani Belle, kay documentary man ning ilang gipatranslate naku. Nia pa gyud!

Naigo si Papa sa tirom.

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 06, 2008, 02:18:40 AM

chatto sumimasen

The correct expression is: "Chotto sumimasen".

This means "Please excuse me for a moment."

Salamat, raldampong, Japz, ug uban pa. Nia pa!


Unsay pasabot sa lampay?

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 04, 2008, 11:06:40 PM
sigi coordinate ta nila! by that time ang mga nang bakasyon naa na sad sa ilaha para maka apil!

hala, usa ka 750 ml nga red wine, i-toast sa tibuok TriBu! tagsa-tagsa na lang ta ana!

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 04, 2008, 10:41:33 PM
Hala apil ko!!!

naa baja mi sauna VIRTUAL TOAST Bene san, with TB peeps all over the world...

apil ko!!!

sige! toast na jud ta belle! let's be specific about the date and time.

Quote from: gelyan on August 04, 2008, 09:31:56 PM
ok..mangadto mi bisan dili ko muinom ana..hehehehe

Please do it where we can have YM so I can toast with you.

HI Gelyan,

Nice talking to you and Ryan on YM. Thanks for posting these pics. You all really look very happy. By the way, gorgeous kaayo mong duha ni Melrose. Pwede mo mag-model sa atong beauty products sa catalog.

Quote from: ytesski on August 04, 2008, 10:57:59 AM
Sir Bene, I think binayo is like a big mortar and pestle that we used to pound rice to remove the husk and nowadays rice miller is used. We also use Bayo or Binayo to make a nilusak na saging. I believe Bayo is also called Lugsong.

Let's wait what other peeps explanation for Binayo. I might have different understanding of Binayo.

Thanks for being always the first on the rescue, Japz. I'll wait for what the others have to say. Hope you're OK, what with the government retrenchment plans thereabouts.

Please help me with this word.

"Unsay imong gibati katong imong papa naigo sa binayo?"

Is binayo dynamite?

Unsay sport sa imong cousin and where does he study? Paolo plays soccer. I think one of his team mates is Mike's nephew. I just wish Paolo would learn to smile a little more. These were his last school photos in Japan, taken with his soccer team, during the closing rites for Junior High School last March.

Quote from: insurectus on August 02, 2008, 06:38:50 PM
Naa pod gitawag bat tuli og bat pisot nalibog ko unsa to porma ani
tigkaon man ko og bat sauna.
Anyway try ni: http://ibiscan.tripod.com/id11.html

Ay sus, abi nakug sa Bible Study thread ra ni ni Dong Enzo ang tuli ug pisot.

Quote from: Sigbin II on August 02, 2008, 08:06:38 PM
Mo-off topic sa ko kariyot.  Here's a pic of a bat on a bed of ambang.  I'm giving this the title of "Gikilaw sa Cabilao".

This really looks yummy. By the way, a Japanese client once sent me a box of live sea cucumbers and I just threw them away because I didn't know how to prepare them. Unsaon man diay pagluto o  pagkilaw sa bat? Unsa may angay tangtangon, kay nahadlok ko basig murag butete nga makahilo if you don't remove specific parts.

Quote from: musiclover0526 on August 02, 2008, 06:15:15 PM
mananagat gud ako papa nya amo balay atbang man sa dagat....hehehehe

Busa diay. I thought you were once a mermaid.

I am against sensationalism, but I am also against self-censorship in view of vested interests.

For all the criticisms heaped on them, I admire ABS-CBN journalists because they not only bring up issues that railroad the interests of their advertisers and prospective advertisers, they also have the gumption to air sensitive issues that put their employers (Lopezes) on the defensive.

I think incidents like these should be investigated and covered by the media to determine possible management and professional negligence of the parties involved.

Quote from: Macky Ferniz on August 02, 2008, 04:39:15 PM
When I was in the Philippines, I must admit I'm an ignoramus to fishing terms. However, when I went to this place, I was surprised how the Indian and Arabic fish pedlers knows fish names in tagalog or bisayan, better than I am.

So, this challenged me to learn. Thanks to Noy Oki, my former co-worker, a born fisherman and a relative of Blue Angel.

Perhaps this could help Benne:
pukot - fishing net  (ok?)

bobo - Fish Trap made of wire mesh. There's a small hole where fishes could get in, but could not get out.

manarap ug bat - Bat means sea cocumber. Manarap is catching with a net. This is wrong and non existent. Sea cocumbers are being picked by hand and not by net.

Tuy - a fish being twined by the net.

Tamba - making loud splash to scare the fish or drive them to the direction of the net.

Mata sa pokot - size of net mesh. The legal minimum size for commercial fishing should be 2 inches so that the small or juvenile fishes could escape.

Bunsod or Payao - Fish pen usually built in shallow waters or lagoon.

Mano' - Catching fish at night using a torch or kerosene lamp.

Manawm - Catching fish by diving using 'pana' (spear).

Destructive fishing:
Lagtang - using poison such as cyanide or a kind of poisonous plant.

Dinamita - using dynamite

Moro ami - Destroying corals (fish habitat) to drive out the fishes and when the fishes are exposed, it is followed by a pokot (net).

I-bookmark na naku ni Macky, kay I'm sure I'll be encountering these words and concepts in the course of this long transcription and translation work. Daghan salamat!

Quote from: orChids on August 02, 2008, 04:54:39 PM
Fish Corral or bungsod-a stationary wire trap devise used to intercept and capture fish, consisting of rows or stakes of bamboo, palm brava or other materials fenced with split bamboo matting or wire entrance with difficult exit, with or without leaders to direct the fish to the catching chamber or purse;

Payao -a fish aggregating device consisting of a floating raft anchored by a weighted line with suspended materials such as palm fronds to attract pelagic and schooling species common in deep waters;

Kuyawa ning TB uy! Nagpahangin lang ko karyo nadugangan na ang input! Di lang for socializing, for educating pud.

Ma'am kaayo imong dating ron, Aya, sa imong avatar ug sa imong encyclopedic definition of terms. Abi nakug sa agriculture ra ka hawod, daghan pud diay ka stock knowledge sa fishery.

I'm sure I'll encounter these terms in the course of my interpreting job for this TV program. Thanks a lot!

Sea cucumber sa English?

Musiclover, namako sa Japanese?

Quote from: Barbaro on August 02, 2008, 03:57:41 PM
manarap ug bat..-- manawom ug bat...

bobo.. may itak tak, mamisbis,

bobo is one the fishing equipment sad.

Thanks. Daghan pa kog ipangutana kay 10 ka tapes ni.

Quote from: musiclover0526 on August 02, 2008, 03:48:21 PM
bubo morag itaktak,manaktak nalang og pukot.

Mao gyud.

Quote from: musiclover0526 on August 02, 2008, 03:47:06 PM
kanang bat mora na sya og ulod nga dako..pwede gani na kilawon,gahi gahi,crunchy,manarap morag mangsuyod..

Mao bitaw akong huna-huna, kanang itom nga kan-on pud sa mga Hapon.

Mao na man gyud ni siguro ang pasabot sa mangingisda.

Salamat kaayo! Kalawom sa imong Bisaya, musiclover0526. If our words tell who we are, kalawom pud sa imong pagkatawo. Salamat ug daku sa mga taga-payag nga nasaag diri!

Quote from: ytesski on August 02, 2008, 03:25:24 PM
Korek ang Pukot is fishing net.

Wa ko kahibaw anang "manarap ug bat".

Bobo can be like watering the plants.  In Cebuano or Bisaya, "mag bo-bo ug tanum".

Sorry Sir Bene. Maybe I will understand more if you use it in a sentence.

Nah maoy gidangat ko ani. Paluma-luma ug tabag hehehe..

Salamat, Japs.

Ing-ani ang context. Kani nga mangingisda, putol ang kamot kay tungod man siguro sa dynamite fishing. Gipangutana siya kung mubalik pa siyag pangisda. Tubag niya inig maayo na kuno ang kamot niya, mubalik siya.

"Pero mamukot na lang ko. Pukot, unya bubo." (Ibubo ang isda sa balde?)

"Kung way ipalit ug pukot, manarap na lang ug bat."



Thanks.

Sa tanang mga namuyo sa daplin sa dagat ug naay kahibaw-an sa sinultian sa mangingisda, mangayo kog tabang.

I am translating another documentary on the life of fishermen in the Philippines to be shown on Japanese TV. I'm stumped by the following words/phrases.

pukot--fishing net  (ok?)

bobo--

manarap ug bat--

I'll request for more as the need arises.

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 02, 2008, 12:04:36 AM


paolo look alike..amo cousin ni ate ginger.. mga gwapo jud uy!!! born atong 1994.. elder c paolo no?

Kurat man ko inig-ukab ani. Abi nakog naa sa makeover thread. May-ong bitaw, murag mag-ig-agaw pud. Two expressions of a similar face . Paolo was born on October 3, 1993. By the way, your cousin looks more like my mom's younger brother when he was young (this uncle is almost my age).

No wonder nobody ever sees him. Nobody bothers to check the ceiling!


Caught you at last!

Quote from: benelynne on January 18, 2008, 09:20:29 AM

GEC is actually a GECKO!

Quote from: mochajava on August 01, 2008, 01:51:25 PM
confusing na pud kuya bene.
ana sarah, hafu is if both parents are pinoy.
sarah?kuya bene?sarah?kuya bene?

paging sarah.
pag.online na kudusai.

There was even a debate in Japan on whether to call children born of marriages between a Japanese and a foreigner "half" (hafu) or "double" (daburu).

Filipina mothers claim "half" is discriminatory since it implies these children are "less than full" of the genetic and cultural heritage of either parent.

The correct word daw is "double" because they have the fullness of the genes and cultural heritage of both father and mother.

Quote from: Ginger on August 01, 2008, 01:47:44 PM
I don't think so, Sir Bene coz I heard Sarah explaining that her Mommy is from Luzon and her Daddy is from Bohol.

I'm glad that she got her geography right kay wala ra ba gyud na sila'y self-consciousness sa ilang Filipino identity until they went back to Bohol.

Anyway, the meaning of "hafu" is a child of mixed parentage (the other being Japanese). Perhaps Sarah misunderstood this word because she was born and grew up here.

There is another word called "new hafu" which is commonly used in TV referring to transvestites or transgenders (half male, half female).

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 01, 2008, 01:37:49 PM
nihonggo is hard for me jud.
ma associate nako sa chinese..

samotan pang nawala ako workbook!

Just work hard on it and it will eventually pay off.

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 01, 2008, 01:30:51 PM
hafu.. when the parents are both Filipinos but the baby was born in Japan..
(exacto ko kuya bene?)

sarah kept on laughing at my accent dba muchs? nya ang pan  (bread) ako gi ingon paran. hahaha

Hafu is "half" which means one parent is Japanese while the other is a foreigner. In other words, mestizo Japanese. Abi siguro ni Sarah Hapon ko, Bol-anon baya ko.

Quote from: mochajava on August 01, 2008, 01:26:57 PM
true kuya bene. sarah has the accent which i and kiams cant imitate, some lang though. heheheh. but i got confused sa numbers pronounciation.
sarah said hashi but our sensei pronounced it as hachi.
who man amo touhan? sensei?sarah?sensei?sarah? hehe.

how old is paolo kuya bene?

The Japanese pronounce 8 as almost hach. Hachi is the closest pronunciation. Sige lang kay ug mulabay kog Cebu, magpraktis tag Hinapon sa EB.

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 01, 2008, 01:10:04 PM
aysus ou! Paolo is handsome jud kuya bene.. asin dili pu-ol /  sumo i cge ug tanaw sa iya face and eyes.wa nalang ko pahalata kay musamot unya ka shy.. or ma-an nya kung minor corrupt..haha!:)

Shy lang kaayo pero ug maanad, magwarm-up man na.

Quote from: ytesski on August 01, 2008, 12:58:10 PM
How old is Paolo diay Sir Bene?

Paolo will be 15 on October 3.

Quote from: ms da binsi on August 01, 2008, 08:47:01 AM


kay gamiton man ang aAmbulansya ug service ug mamista! hala i sibya na diri para mabasahan sa mga taga atoa!!!

Nakit-an ba nimo ang TV Patrol sa TFC nga gigamit pagdeliver ug drugs ang ambulance sa Manila, unya naa pud to skirt the heavy traffic para ihatud ang mga pamilya sa trabaho? State of emergency na gyud ang atong nasod kung magpadayon ang emergency ambulance gamiton for such crooked purposes.

I have heard that health and medical service in Bohol is one of its weak spots. The last topnotcher in the physician's licensure exam was a Boholana. HNU boasts of a passing average higher than the national average in the nursing board. Why is our health service in such a deplorable state? Siguro tua na pud sa abroad, sama nato! Blaming them would be pointing the fingers at ourselves. Pero tagaan pud unta pagtagad sa gobyerno atong kaugalingon health care system. Accidents are not always within our control. But something is terribly awry if we say our health system is out of our hands.

Quote from: kiamoy` on August 01, 2008, 08:00:02 AM
Sarah was able to mingle with us Kuya Bene. We were like "anatawa des ka"?
hahahah!! she taught us alot of Japanese words. (we are Nihonggo students man)
She also taught us the meaning of "hafu"..Pro sa ate and kuya, wala na,. at the grand EB..they were hilom lang..
I guess shy lang jud.. hehe

Sarah is the family PR, next to her mommy. Maayo ni siya mutudlo ug Japanese. If you want to practice Japanese, do it with a child kay pati accent, intonation ug idioms nga dili matun-an sa klase makahibawo gyud ka.

Paolo takes time to warm up, but when he does, OK pud ni siya mo-interact. Awkward lang ni siya sa mga girls, but he's very much alive in boy's rough games like soccer. Nasamot ka shy ug self-conscious tong gipili siya nga "Prince Charming" sa klase kay wala siya kahibawo unsay kunoy expected role niya.

Raya is the artist-type busa naa gyud pagka-seryoso ug brooding ang personality. The young never learn social graces in Japan, the way Filipino youngsters do. But I think given more time, she will also be able to blend. Hopefully, you'll have more opportunities to mingle in the future. Yoroshiku.

Quote from: junayag on August 01, 2008, 08:06:52 AM

Hi Mr. Benelynne,

The topic that both of our families met in the past was revisited yesterday when we dropped by Jagna ( the place where your mom and my mother were neighbors ). nageskwela man gud ako Mama adtong panahona...kon wala siya klase, adto siya sa inyo ... mao nga nakabantay kuno siya nimo...hehehe.

Hi Jun,

Asa man ka atong panahona? You are like 2 to 3 years older than Lynne and me, if I got Lynne's report right. So we were of the same age to be playmates. I guess you were in Mabini then?

I want to revisit Jagna because it's like 38 years since I was there. Kinder pa ko sa Colegio dela Medalla Milagrosa. Mao ba gihapon iyang ngalan? I used to think Tubag Bohol is a village, now it's a neighborhood.

Thanks for graciously welcoming my family into the grand EB.

Quote from: kiamoy` on July 31, 2008, 11:05:17 PM
hehe.. ate tess.. 5'6 na c muchs

Refreshingly young face of Tubag Bohol! My son Paolo's got some growing up to do to see you eyeball to eyeball. I really wish you young ones could draw my agonizingly shy teenagers into the circle.

Quote from: Bambi on August 01, 2008, 05:36:01 AM
Sir Benelynee, I think we are still too far for this necessary actions for tourists safety and convenience.  Sorry to say, that
they entertain first in "cash connections" rather than life importance. This is another minus point in our behalf.  We have still to learn lot of things.
Sad to know that those victims were claimed Death on arrival at the hospital..I remembered when we had needed an ambulance from Community Hospital to another hospital near the airport for my sick mother's transport...dugay kaayo kay wa kunoy gasolina. We must have to tightly hold the ambulance bed coz there were no security brake on it.  So, we decided to buy our own small service for this purpose.

May the rest in peace!

A grabeha pud, way gasolina ang ambulance! Di katingalahan nga DOA ang pasyente. What a shame for us since we aspire to be an international tourist destination. Diri sa Japan, I remember having called an ambulance twice for emergencies in the family and neighborhood and the response came within 3 to 5 minutes. The response time makes a lot of difference in life-and-death situations. Pero importante pud ang preventive measures like putting in place well-trained life guards and scuba diving guides because with the expected surge in tourist traffic to Bohol, di gyud malikayan ang mga aksidente.

I think there are more innuendos than facts in this message, so it's hard to make an informed judgment and comment.

I don't know Benjie Oliva personally, but since he occupies an important public position as a youth commissioner, his behavior certainly needs to be scrutinized in terms of legal and ethical compliance.

But I think accusations must be specific and backed with verifiable details. Aside from Oliva's alleged false claim of a nonexistent award, the rest of the charges seem to be subjective and even emotional. Can the poster elaborate on what Oliva lectured about to the RDC and how he insulted the lawmaker?

The youth seem to be picking up the wrong cues and modeling wrong examples from our seasoned politicians.

I like people who appreciate my funny side. You know GEC, I've always thought this virtual repartee is just a foretaste of actual conversation with you. So I look forward to the day we'll toast our Cabernet.

Quote from: -<GEC348>- on July 31, 2008, 06:37:05 PM

Wine is a lubricant that makes drawing out thoughts smooth and easy, Benny.
But not too much, please, or we'll be sounding very funny.   

I'd really like to sound funny once in a while and let my hair down. If I'm trying to sound funny, it's because I just guzzled a glass of red wine to mark my last working hour of July, alone.

It's a big relief these tragic deaths fall under accident and not homicide or murder. Still, these accidents were entirely avoidable. Since Bohol is gaining international reputation as a tourist destination, we should train and provide lifeguards in beaches and pools, as well as upgrade our hospital's emergency response.

Quote from: -<GEC348>- on July 31, 2008, 06:29:50 PM
Benny,

I don't know how long I can stay behind the curtain much longer.

But Melrose's ribbon will not be complete without your wine and the cheese   

GEC, murag lami ka kaistorya siguro over red wine. Sige, pugong lang sa till I'm in town next time.

Palisdan gyud ta ni GEC.

Ngano man jud mag-offer ta ug red wine ug cheese, yellow ribbon ra man diay gusto ni GEC? (ug si Melrose pa jud ipataod?)

GEC remains the seductive silouette behind Tubag Bohol's curtain of threads unless he flings it wide open and out himself. On second thought, OK ra man siguro naa ta'y misteryo (diingon nato) diri sa payag.

Di na ka apil ani Belle kay murag labaw naman kaha sa 95% imong tag-an sa identity ni GEC.

Last time nagkita mi nila Vida ug Paul, wa pay klarong short list kung kinsa man gyud ni siya.

Unsa man atong premyo ha?

I hope it's not an environmental red flag for Bohol's coasts being eaten up by the sea due to global warming.

I personally like tofu, eaten with Japanese soy sauce and finely sliced leek. The Japanese can't go without tofu in their soup and as side dish, pero 120 million man sila. But the population is declining. Matud pa sa white paper prepared by the French Embassy in Tokyo a few years back, "The Japanese tend towards sexual inactivity..."

Kinahanglan pa daghan research para mapamatud-an ni kay important source of non-animal protein ra ba ang soya beans.

Cabernet Sauvignon, Gouda Parrano, regally begowned ladies... bisag unsa na may ipaon ni GEC di man gihapon mupaak. Magpapremyo na lang kaha ta sa unang makasakop ni GEC?

US soy producers dispute low sperm count study


Agence France-Presse
First Posted 09:01:00 07/31/2008

WASHINGTON -- US soy producers on Wednesday disputed a Harvard School of Public Health study that shows products containing soy and isoflavones can result in reduced sperm count among men.

"Headlines claiming 'soy products lower sperm count' do not tell the whole story," the Soyfoods Association of North America said in a statement challenging the methods used in the medical study, the first to relate soy to fertility problems in humans.

The Harvard study examined the soy intake of 99 men experiencing fertility problems for three months and found that isoflavones in soy act like female hormones, giving "an inverse association between soy food intake and sperm concentration."

The Soyfoods Association said the study "conflicts with the large body of US government and National Institutes of Health-sponsored human and primate research, in which controlled amounts of isoflavones were fed and no effect on quantity, quality or motility of sperm were observed."

The Harvard study led by Jorge Chavarro and published in Human Reproduction journal "is the first to find this correlation" between soy ingestion and low sperm count, said University of Alabama at Birmingham pharmacologist Stephen Barnes in the statement.

The European Natural Soyfoods Manufacturers Association also disputed Chavarro's study from a different approach.

"Generations of Asians have regularly consumed soya without fertility disorders, and Asian countries have prodigiously produced very healthy, highly-functioning children for centuries," the European group said.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20080731-151784/US-soy-producers-dispute-low-sperm-count-study

Quote from: Melrose on July 31, 2008, 08:53:10 AM
My my my! Maayo gani kay dili mapan-os ang wine. Ang wine ni Bennelyn dia pa nako. Gec, para nimo jud ni. Ako lang taguan, ha. Till you reveal yourself to me.

Glen, one of these days, mag tie nako og yellow ribbon. Serious!

Basig makabalik na lang ko (early September) di pa magpakita si GEC, magdala na lang kog lain. Kita na lang nila Paul manginom.