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#10201
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 14, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
The Failure of Spanish Crown's Racial Segregation 


Even if a policy of rigid segregation had been attempted it failed to keep the unconverted Chinese and the converted indio from each other. Like the Spaniards, the indios in Spanish areas of settlement had come to be economically dependent upon the Chinese.

Economic relations between the two groups , and between individuals in the two groups, were constant. Social interaction was inevitable in the course of economic relations, and later on, on a racial context. There was no way to keep indio and the Chinese completely apart.

The Chinese became physically mobile in the Philippines, many settling into central Luzon, Northern Luzon, Southern Luzon, the Visayas, and the Mindanao region. The reasons for the Chinese' expansion was a response to Spanish attempt to disperse the Chinese from Manila, the main staging point. Contrary to Spanish designs, the Chinese that were dispersed in the rural provinces eventually manifested their economic prosperity as in Manila , and furthering indio-chinese co-dependence and intermarriage.



Reference:
Wickberg, Edgar. (2000). The Chinese in Philippine Life 1850-1898.
Ateneo De Manila University Press
#10202
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 14, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on October 14, 2012, 12:07:50 PM
Ah, you mean postbellum, then. There is no such thing as "post-antebellum". Where's your Latin?

P.S. I majored in American History, and have published papers on the American Civil War.

Thanks for that correction, yes, you're right. I meant to say Postbellum.

Then you realize that the racial and social implications of the Jim Crow Laws are similar to that of the Anti-Chinese Laws implemented by the Spanish Crown.
#10203
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 14, 2012, 12:08:07 PM
The Chinese Uprisings Against Racist & Repressive Spanish Control


Many of the repressive laws enacted by the Spanish Crown was the prejudice of Chinese populations through unfair taxation without representation. The Chinese were taxed higher than the indio.

Although the Chinese paid higher taxes than the indios, heavy taxation was less a point of Sino-Spanish friction than was the arbitrary taxation. Special levies were frequent; so were forced labor drafts of Chinese for rowers of galleys.

The Spanish crown issued a series of laws from 1594 to 1627 with the objective of isolating these groups. The practice of extralegal taxation imposed without notice was one cause of the occasional Chinese uprising in the early Spanish period.

More basic to the occurrence of uprisings and Spanish reprisals against the Chinese was the prevailing pattern of economic interdependence combined with cultural animosity mentioned above. Attitudes of distrust periodically found violent expression in Chinese uprisings and Spanish massacres or expulsion laws. In 1603 the entire Manila Chinese colony of 20,000 was wiped out in a massacre following a Chinese revolt against undue and unfair taxation.

In 1639 a group of CHinese who were being forced to work crown lands in Laguna province rose up and moved on Manila. They were joined by the Manila CHinese, who were provoked to rebellion by arbitrary tax demands and by the economical hardships accompanying a bad year. The rebellion resulted in a massive Spanish reprisal, which led to the deaths of over 30,000 Chinese and some 20,000 indios who joined the Chinese rebellion.

Spanish crown laws implemented anti-miscegnation laws that tried to prevent the Chinese marrying the indios of the Philippines. Considering the fact that most of the CHinese in the Philippines were male , and there was a lack of CHinese women, majority of the male Chinese were marrying local women. The Spaniards feared the inbreeding of the two groups in that they feared that the offspring of the two would join further revolts against Spain.

Despite Spanish laws to prevent the marriage of Chinese men and local women, the majority of the Chinese men married local women. Many Chinese converted to Spanish names and the Catholic faith of their wives. To the protest of the Spanish civil authorities.


Reference:
Wickberg, Edgar. (2000). The Chinese in Philippine Life 1850-1898.
Ateneo De Manila University Press


#10204
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 14, 2012, 11:49:49 AM
The Spanish Crown's Policy Towards the Chinese in Colonial Philippines







In dealing with the Chinese, Spain's policies revealed the basic compromise between religious-cultural ideals and economic interest decreed the presence of Chinese merchants and artisans, who filled occupations which the Spaniards scorned and for which the indios were believed unsuited. No less necessary was the China-Manila trade carried on by the Chinese, as part of the Manila Galleon trading system, in which many powerful Spanish residents had sizable investments. There were also the taxes and miscellaneous contributions of the Chinese, of interest both to government and to private individuals and institutions.

Balanced against economic interest was the mandate to Catholicize and hispanize the Philippines and all its inhabitants. It appeared to the Spaniards that the Chinese could not easily be converted or hispanized.

Moreover, intimate contact between unconverted Chinese and barely-converted indios stood as a possible threat to the lasting conversion of the latter, which was, after-all, the major Spanish concern.

Within a few years after the Spanish conquests of the Philippines, the relations between Chinese and Spaniards fell into a pattern of distrust and latent hostility. Basic to this pattern was a prevailing condition of economic interdependence coupled with seemingly irreconcilable cultural differences. Within this context, the term "sangley", the Spanish name for the Chinese immigrants, quickly came to apply to any individual stereotype and the Chinese became not simply one of two ethnic groups of equal status under the Spanish, but a despised cultural minority.

While considered a cultural minority in the Spanish plan, the Chinese were still, compared with the Spaniards, a numerical majority and hence potentially dangerous. Thus, if the indios seemed to need protection from the Chinese for religious-cultural reasons, no less dd the Manila Spaniards need it for security reasons. Therefore, as Spain's Chinese policy took form there were three major elements: 1) Taxation , 2) Control, 3) Conversion.



Reference:
Wickberg, Edgar. (2000). The Chinese in Philippine Life 1850-1898.
Ateneo De Manila University Press
#10205
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 14, 2012, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: hubag bohol on October 14, 2012, 09:57:54 AM
Hmm, post-antebellum period? What's "post-antebellum"? ::)

That's a good question, Hubs. The Antebellum period refers to the time period prior to the American Civil War, a time when slavery was still legal in certain parts of the United States, specifically in the southern states, which were against northern reforms to abolish slavery.

Post-Antebellum refers to the time period after the American Civil War.

After the American Civil War, and with the passing of the Emancipation Proclamation , which abolished slavery in the United States, the African slaves were freed from bondage. With the collapse of the Confederate States of America (the rebellious states), the Federal government implemented reforms to build the south.

However, the local governments in the south continued to repress the African-Americans with the passing of Jim Crowe Laws. Such laws limited the voting rights of African Americans , separated the mingling of blacks with whites. It was akin to Spanish laws during colonial Philippines that prevented Chinese integration into the country.

I hope that helps. :)

#10206
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 14, 2012, 05:49:42 AM


:)
#10207
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 14, 2012, 05:47:21 AM
Hanging out in downtown New York City with my friend from medical school. Chinoy pod ni sija.


;) 
#10208
Bible Study / Re: I Am the Bread of Life
October 14, 2012, 05:26:45 AM
The same hymnal, only sung in Polynesian :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6MgOyFfUHE#

Beautiful!
#10209
Bible Study / Re: I Am the Bread of Life
October 14, 2012, 05:24:33 AM
I am the bread of life
He who comes to me shall not hunger
He who believes in me shall not thirst
No one can come to me
Unless the father beckons
And I will raise you up(3)

On the last day.
The bread that I will give
Is my flesh for the life of the world
And if you eat of this bread
You shall live forever(2)

Unless you eat
Of the flesh of the Son of Man
And drink of his blood,
And drink of his blood,
You shall not have life within you.
I am the resurrection, I am the life

If you believe in me
Even though you die
You shall live forever.
Yes, lord I believe
That you are the Christ
The son of God
Who has come into the world.
#10212
Bible Study / Re: I The Lord Of Sea And Sky
October 14, 2012, 05:21:14 AM
I, the Lord of sea and sky
I have heard my people cry
All who dwell in dark and sin
My hand will save:

I who made the stars and night
I will make the darkness bright
Who will bear my light to them?
Whom shall I send?

Here I am Lord
Is it I Lord?
I have heard you calling in the night
I will go Lord
If you lead me
I will hold your people in my heart

I the Lord of snow and rain,
I have borne my people's pain,
I have wept for love of them,
They turn away...

I will break their hearts of stone
Fill their hearts with love alone
I will speak my word to them
Whom shall I send?

Here I am Lord
Is it I Lord?
I have heard you calling in the night
I will go Lord
If you lead me
I will hold your people in my heart

I, the Lord of wind and flame
I will tend the poor and lame
I will set a feast for them
My hand will save:

Finest bread I will provide
Till their hearts be satisfied
I will give my life to them
Whom shall I send?

Here I am Lord
Is it I Lord?
I have heard you calling in the night
I will go Lord
If you lead me
I will hold your people in my heart
#10216
Karen shares the following:



"On Friday my daughter was leaving on a weekend trip and in her haste packing the car, left her suitcase sitting in the busy parking lot of her apartment complex. When she realized what she had done, she returned home about an hour later. The suitcase was gone. It was full of expensive belongings. She contacted her apartment office when they opened the next day, but the suitcase had not been found. But praise be to God, someone turned it in the next afternoon! I thank God for answering our prayers, for St. Anthony, St. Rita, St. Jude, St. Michael, St. Raphael, St. Gabriel, and our guardian angels for interceding for us. I ask God to bless the person or persons who were so kind and honest for taking the trouble to return the suitcase!"




Retrieved from: http://www.americancatholic.org/forum/forum.asp?GID=3&ThreadID=44&MessageID=8863



:)
#10217
Another poster shared the following:



"Aside from Christ’s abundant generosity on the cross and in the Eucharist ...

and our Church fathers’ abundant generosity in handing down the faith by learning, living, defending, and dying for the faith ...

and all the Clergy and Religious throughout the centuries and also here and now in service to us for God ...

and all those who have sacrificed to gain and maintain our freedom ...

I have been utterly amazed at the generosity within my own parish. I know somebody has to pay for our church buildings, appointments, upkeep, staffing, and "goodies" like bibles and calendars and magazines and such items. I can barely tithe to my church (and it’s something I really need to work on). It can only be because others in my parish have tithed generously that I too can benefit from all that my parish has to offer.

It is with a very grateful heart that I attend daily mass in full religious freedom to receive, from a priest, the Holy Word and the precious body and blood of our Lord in a facility that is befitting of our glorious God.

Let us not take God’s grace for granted.

Pax Christi"



Retrieved from: http://www.americancatholic.org/forum/forum.asp?GID=3&ThreadID=44&MessageID=8755




PAX CHRISTI! :)
#10218
Maria posted the following:

"Many years ago my life was so different and I had endured more hardships than a very young person should and I am forever grateful to the Jewish Federation for their support in more ways than one. Not just monetary but in every possible manner a human being is entitled to who needed to be part of the human family again. The Jewish Federation is a wonderful philanthropic institution and I encourage everyone to donate to the good works they do. They ask nothing in return. Take my word for it, I am a very successful person, happy and contented because of the good works of the Jewish Federation."


Retrieved from: http://www.americancatholic.org/forum/forum.asp?GID=3&ThreadID=44&MessageID=8754
#10219
Post taken from : http://www.americancatholic.org/forum/forum.asp?GID=3&ThreadID=44&MessageID=8748


"On Memorial Day I looked out my kitchen window and my next door neighbor was digging a hole in my back yard. When I went outside to see what was going on, he told me had just bought a tree and was planting it for me. Two of his nephews were helping him. Three grown men giving me this beautiful, thoughtful gift. The only reason they gave is that they knew I was missing the trees that had to be cut down last year due to disease. What a delight! This is a family that no one wanted in our neighborhood because of his race. How blessed for me to be the recipient of such generosity! It made my heart sing all day!"



:)
#10220
When have you been the recipient of someone’s abundant generosity?
#10221
Inspiration & Hope / Re: Daily Mass Readings
October 14, 2012, 05:05:07 AM
Saturday of the Twenty-seventh Week in Ordinary Time
Lectionary: 466




Reading 1 :  Gal 3:22-29



Brothers and sisters:
Scripture confined all things under the power of sin,
that through faith in Jesus Christ
the promise might be given to those who believe.

Before faith came, we were held in custody under law,
confined for the faith that was to be revealed.
Consequently, the law was our disciplinarian for Christ,
that we might be justified by faith.
But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a disciplinarian.
For through faith you are all children of God in Christ Jesus.
For all of you who were baptized into Christ
have clothed yourselves with Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither slave nor free person,
there is not male and female;
for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants,
heirs according to the promise.



Responsorial Psalm  :    Ps 105:2-3, 4-5, 6-7

R. (8a) The Lord remembers his covenant for ever.
or:
R. Alleluia.
Sing to him, sing his praise,
proclaim all his wondrous deeds.
Glory in his holy name;
rejoice, O hearts that seek the LORD!
R. The Lord remembers his covenant for ever.
or:
R. Alleluia.
Look to the LORD in his strength;
seek to serve him constantly.
Recall the wondrous deeds that he has wrought,
his portents, and the judgments he has uttered.
R. The Lord remembers his covenant for ever.
or:
R. Alleluia.
You descendants of Abraham, his servants,
sons of Jacob, his chosen ones!
He, the LORD, is our God;
throughout the earth his judgments prevail.
R. The Lord remembers his covenant for ever.
or:
R. Alleluia.




Gospel    :    Lk 11:27-28


While Jesus was speaking,
a woman from the crowd called out and said to him,
"Blessed is the womb that carried you
and the breasts at which you nursed."
He replied, "Rather, blessed are those
who hear the word of God and observe it."
#10223
Bible Study / Coeur de Jésus
October 14, 2012, 04:52:27 AM

Refrain:

Coeur de Jésus sauvez le monde,
Que l’univers vous soit soumis
En Vous seul notre espoir se fonde
Seigneur, Seigneur, Vous nous l’avez promis.

Vous l’avez dit: Votre promesse
Fait notr’espoir, notre bonheur:
« Je bénirai dans ma tendresse
Les enfants de mon Sacré Coeur.

Vous l’avez dit: Sauveur fidèle,
Votr’ amour nous l’a révélé:
« Le coeur brulant pour Moi de zèle
Par le Mien sera consolé ! »

(Heart of Jesus, save the world)
(May the world be submitted to you,)
(In you alone our hope is founded)
(Lord, Lord, you have promised us this.)

(You have told us: your promise)
(Will be our hope, our happiness:)
(“In my tenderness, I will bless)
(The children of my Sacred Heart.”)

(You have said, O faithful Savior,)
(Your love has revealed it to us:)
(“The heart that burns with zeal for Me)
(Will find consolation in my Heart.”)
#10224
Philippine Showcase / Re: Best islands around the world
October 14, 2012, 04:28:42 AM
Quote from: Nathan on May 09, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
Does anyone have any reviews positive or negative about Balicasag Island?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiaj-Udvr6w#ws

I love it there ! That place is a scuba diver's MUST VISIT destination. ;)
#10225
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
October 14, 2012, 04:25:47 AM
Quote from: Lollapalooza on October 12, 2012, 08:53:10 AM
Yes Bran, Coffee Party.. they don't like TEA.. mao kape... 15 years ago they're the same friends who would raid my house looking for something nga masima sima.. sometimes, manulong lang ug inum.. karon, manulong lang gihapon para mangape... hehehe

Ikaw Bran, musta?

It's my day off today, Jenneth. I'm so happy to be able to relax today after a long day of work yesterday. It's getting really cold here in Chicago, Jen, its 40 degrees Fahrenheit diri (4 degrees Celsius) !

Thanks for asking, Jenneth. I also hope you're doing well over there ! Regards ha.


#10226
Mike, who are the good ones?
#10227
Question and Answer / Re: Have You Cried For A Girl?
October 14, 2012, 04:17:08 AM
In addition, paramount to a successful healing is coming to God the Lord of Hosts in prayer.

The break up is, in short term, hurtful to the heart especially if you are the one suffering. Suffering in despair is a natural state , an emotional and psychological process. However, one can mitigate the pain by prostating onself in prayer and asking for The Lord Jesus Christ's intercession and presence in your life.

It may not seem like it at first, but God works His Providence in such a way that He directs you to what is ultimately good for you, according to the richness of His Grace and Divine Will.

He will never allow you to suffer and experience what you cannot bear. So bear it and trust in Him and ask for His guidance in this time of your life. It is in confidence that I share with you , those who are in pain and suffering from a broken heart, that I , too, experienced the despair of a broken heart. However, after allowing myself to grieve the loss of a loved one , I turned my direction to God. For He is the one that can console you and He is the one who understands your loss, your desire to be loved, and it is through the intercession of the Holy Spirit that one can experience a consolation and peace that is Love in its purest and absolute form.

I am sure that for all of you who are suffering a broken heart, by establishing a newfound relationship with God and trusting in His intercession and guidance in your life-- you can bear through these trials and tribulations of life.

God calls you through your pains. Perhaps in your life you were not holding and fostering a close relationship with God, your interest and your attention were more so on worldly needs, on relationships that are not essential to you. It is in pain and in humbling you that The Lord God calls you to Him. And reminds you that in your pain, in your suffering, TRUE CONSOLATION and JUSTIFICATION can come only through Him.


Be strong, and have faith. You can do it, you will get better. God will make a way. Trust in Him and truly He will make your paths straight.



Yours in Christ,
Lorenzo
#10228
Quote from: philippines on July 08, 2012, 07:33:50 AM
Then do we understand that a man may live on sin, just so he has faith?
"Faith without works is dead" (Jas. 2:20) "How shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein?" (Rom. 6:2).

By watching one's actions and try -- as much -- to live a good Christian life. By studying the Word of God and in observing the Sacraments, one is purified , one is justified.

Open your heart to the Holy Spirit -- in such a way that you become overwhelmed with His presence.
#10229
Quote from: taga tigbao on September 06, 2012, 10:44:20 AM
By Faith and By Works

Yes. Faith is a prerequisite in Christian Life. But one's faith is justified through works of righteousness.

It is pleasing unto God. One upholds his faith through good works and finds himself in God's favor. The rewards of these are the flowers of Graces that are sent from the Heavenly abode.

#10230
Question and Answer / Re: Have You Cried For A Girl?
October 14, 2012, 04:01:55 AM
Quote from: TUBAGBOHOL.com on July 02, 2012, 10:36:38 PM

Have You Cried For A Woman?

Yes, I have. After a while, the heart ache disappears. The best way to treat a heart ache is to busy oneself with work -- and -- get back into the dating scene.

The best way to treat a broken heart is finding another woman. ;)
#10231
Sexercise is a good stress reliever, imho. :)
#10232
Question and Answer / Re: Do you have a diary?
October 14, 2012, 03:59:53 AM
he he he, yes i do. :)
#10233
Question and Answer / Re: are you in favor of abortion?
October 14, 2012, 03:59:19 AM
Quote from: balong on September 18, 2012, 08:43:14 PM
dihay bag-ong nahitabo sa new york. 18 yr. old nag pa abort. patay ang bata ug inahan. dili ikatinga ning ka gubots sa kalibots karon. compared to  mothers  killing  their own babies,  killing a fellow human being is easier


yes, the abortifacent drug called misoprostol forces the woman's endometrial lining to tear off. the end result of the endometrial tear and the subsequent major blood loss results in the death of the embryo. coincidentally, if blood loss is too much, the mother can also die.

#10234
Quotable Quotes / Re: What is a Mayor?
October 14, 2012, 03:52:56 AM
:)
#10235
Bible Study / Re: Daily Scriptural Verse
October 13, 2012, 11:10:38 PM
1 Praise the LORD! Praise, O servants of the LORD, praise the name of the LORD!
2 Blessed be the name of the LORD from this time forth and for evermore!
3 From the rising of the sun to its setting the name of the LORD is to be praised!
4 The LORD is high above all nations, and his glory above the heavens!
5 Who is like the LORD our God, who is seated on high,
6 who looks far down upon the heavens and the earth?
7 He raises the poor from the dust, and lifts the needy from the ash heap.

Psalm 113:1-7

#10236
Bible Study / Re: Daily Scriptural Verse
October 13, 2012, 11:09:04 PM
11 Who considers the power of your anger, and your wrath according to the fear of you?
12 So teach us to number our days that we may get a heart of wisdom.
13 Return, O LORD! How long? Have pity on your servants!
14 Satisfy us in the morning with your steadfast love, that we may rejoice and be glad all our days.
15 Make us glad as many days as you have afflicted us, and as many years as we have seen evil.
16 Let your work be manifest to your servants, and your glorious power to their children.


Psalm 90: 11-16

#10237
Bible Study / Re: Daily Scriptural Verse
October 13, 2012, 11:07:30 PM


1 Prasie the LORD. I will give thanks to the LORD with my whole heart, in the company of the upright, in the congregation.
2 Great are the works of the LORD, studied by all who have pleasure in them.
3 Full of honor and majesty is his work, and his righteousness endures for ever.
4 He has caused his wonderful works to be remembered; the LORD is gracious and merciful.
5 He provides food for those who fear him; he is ever mindful of his covenant.
6 He has shown his people the power of his works, in giving them the heritage of the nations.

Psalm 111:1-6
#10238
Bible Study / Re: Daily Scriptural Verse
October 13, 2012, 11:05:39 PM
2 Sing to him, sing praises to him, tell of all his wonderful works!
3 Glory in his holy name; let the hearts of those who seek the LORD rejoice!
4 Seek the LORD and his strength, seek his presence continually!
5 Remember the wonderful works that he has done, his miracles, and the judgments he uttered,
6 O offspring of Abraham his servant, sons of Jacob, his chosen ones!
7 He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth.

Psalm 105:2-7
#10239
Bible Study / Re: Daily Scriptural Verse
October 13, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
27 As he said this, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, "Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts that you sucked!" 28 But he said, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!"

Luke 11:27-28




Meditation:
Who do you seek to favor and bless? When an admirer wished to compliment Jesus by praising his mother, Jesus did not deny the truth of the blessing she pronounced. Her beatitude (which means "blessedness" or "happiness") recalls Mary's canticle: All generations will call me blessed (Luke 1:48). Jesus adds to her words by pointing to the source of all true blessedness or happiness â€" union with God in heart, mind, and will. Mary humbly submitted herself to the miraculous plan of God for the incarnation of his only begotten Son â€" the Word of God made flesh in her womb, by declaring: I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be done to me according to your word (Luke 1:38). Mary heard the word spoken to her by the angel and she believed it.

On another occasion Jesus remarked that whoever does the will of God is a friend of God and a member of his family â€" his sons and daughters who have been ransomed by the precious blood of Christ. (Luke 8:21). They are truly blessed because they know their God personally and they find joy in hearing and obeying his word.

Our goal in life, the very reason we were created in the first place, is for union with God. We were made for God and our hearts are restless until they rest in him. Lucian of Antioch (240-312), an early Christian theologian and martyr, once said that "a Christian's only relatives are the saints." Those who follow Jesus Christ and who seek the will of God enter into a new family, a family of "saints" here on earth and in heaven. Jesus changes the order of relationships and shows that true kinship is not just a matter of flesh and blood. Our adoption as sons and daughters of God transforms all our relationships and requires a new order of loyalty to God and his kingdom. Do you hunger for God and for his word?

"Lord Jesus, my heart is restless until it rests in you. Help me to live in your presence and in the knowledge of your great love for me. May I seek to please you in all that I do, say, and think."



http://www.rc.net/wcc/readings/oct13.htm
#10240
Bible Study / Re: Heaven is Real--from a neurosurgeon
October 13, 2012, 11:01:44 PM
The opinion of Dr. Alexander is quite poignant and profound.
#10241
Quote from: islander on October 13, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
Guns, she said, were necessary for protection against revenge killings common among Muslim clans, or against other armed groups that have sprouted in poverty-wracked Mindanao as an indirect consequence of the insurgency.

MILF brigade chief Guiazakallaha Jaafar, 28, who boasts of 3,000 fighters under his command, said he and his men believed their leaders would not order them disarmed without consensus from key officers.


http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/

Then it is apparent that these key officers be influenced to compel these men to give up their weapons.

Second, start to invest in Mindanao. If government lifts the poverty in that region, a long and lasting peace can be attained.

#10243
Help & Support / Re: hangyo-on ko ang inyong pasaylo
October 13, 2012, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: islander on October 13, 2012, 03:35:48 PM
pangitaa na lang sa internet si rod stewart nga gakanta ani, pagaw-pagaw morag nagbuntag ug tagay.  pilay pad kun pareha diay silag tingog ni sir balongski... ;D

Hmmmm, klaro kaayo fan ka ni rod stewart. ;)

ps. "first cut is the deepest" is his best song, imho.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gXXWjK0tD0#
#10244
Help & Support / Re: hangyo-on ko ang inyong pasaylo
October 13, 2012, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: Pikoy on October 13, 2012, 02:11:26 PM
mama sitas singkamas nocos el peneritos..:D

bwahaha! bai piks,

Las mujeres realmente les encanta besar ... el ...

:P
#10245
Help & Support / Re: hangyo-on ko ang inyong pasaylo
October 13, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
Quote from: islander on October 13, 2012, 02:06:06 PM
¡Adiós, Patria adorada, región del sol querida,
Perla del mar de oriente, nuestro perdido Edén!
A darte voy alegre la triste mustia vida,
Y fuera más brillante, más fresca, más florida,
También por ti la diera, la diera por tu bien.

hahaha! wow! from pasayloa thread to a reading of the Great Dr. Jose P. Rizal. ;)

#10246
Help & Support / Re: hangyo-on ko ang inyong pasaylo
October 13, 2012, 10:46:45 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on October 13, 2012, 07:37:05 PM
He he, curiosity is the order of the day... ;D

Amicus,

Esse generis, esse misericordem. :)
#10247
Help & Support / Re: hangyo-on ko ang inyong pasaylo
October 13, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: balong on October 13, 2012, 11:36:50 AM
with my heart heavy with sadness, i now bade you goodbye. di na ko gusto nga samok na pod ug usab ba. daghan kaajo mong ga subay subay ning ahong pasiaw nga pinaskohan contest. apan gika sobo ko nga dili na ko maka padayon pa. gi hagu-an jud ni naho. nag cut ko ug bond paper, gisulat ang mga nos. para sa mga contestants. gi sulod naho sa plastic galoon ug maoy ahong gi hinay hinayan ug hubot. in the words of islander, 3 ang leading bondholders ug usa niini mao si hubag bohol. wala man nag reklamo si hubag sa leading pa sija.  apan sa dihang na hobot ang duha ka nos. ni hubag, gi gam-an dajon ko nija ug topic. nga ug tinood pa kong milyonaryo nganong mo pa siugda man ko ug contest nga P4000 lang ang premyo. naka insulto ba. naka menos na kaajo ni nahong tawhana. perte nijang soko-a naho nga mag sigi lang ko ug hisgot ug kwarta. nganong mang hilabot man sija naho. why dont he leave me alone. nag ka engkwentro mi bahin ni virgilio bucia, nag pasensya lang ko. karon ija na pong birahan ning ahong pinaskohan contest nga daghan kaajo ang na lingaw. pagka basa naho sa ijang topic, mora ko ug na hilis. mibati ko sa ahong pagka gamay. paeta man ani oi. kong naa sijay kwarta, unta sija na lay manghatag ug premyo nga tag 50 mil nga wa nay contest. kay sa aho nang gi ingon, pa bibo ra man ning aho. naa bay kalingawan sa tanan. kay dili man jud mahimo nga aporan mo naho ug tag $100 kay dili man ko milyonaryo. damgo lang na naho nga milyonaryo ko. pa buhi sa dugo ba.. plano unta naho nga himoon ni naho kada tuig. next year $1000 na pod unta ang akong ihatag para 10 ka tawo ang ma hatagan ug $100 nga pinaskohan. pero dili na madayon kay mo lakaw naman ko. busa hangyo-on ko ang inyong pasaylo ilabi na ngadto sa mga contestants. i am so sorry but i cant go on anymore. angay unta nga mag respetohay ta ba. but this hubag bohol has no respect for me at all. he wants to belittle me. he thinks that by doing so he can prove that he is "bigger" than me. dili sija gusto nga hilabwan ang iyang pagka sikat kay lagi LEGEND gud ni sija.

to fdaray...hibaw ko nga nag hinam hinam jud ka ani nga contest. ayaw lang kabaka fdaray. if you lost the chance to win $100, dont worry. you have gained much much more. you have gained a friend in me. someday we'll see each other in davao. im planning to visit in 2 or 3 yrs. taga davao man si mrs.

lollapalooza.....hope mag ka dayon mo si engr. selos ko gamay  :)

islander,  i will miss you more than you'll ever know

mike ligalig.....daghan kaajong salamat sa imong pag pa balik naho dinhi sa TB. nalingaw na unta ko ug sugod. medyo samok naman pod. lie low lang sa ko. i owe you one partner. pila ka libo na ang imong na gasto para sa server sa tingog.maribojoc. wa jud koy bayad bayad.

we have to see each other for R & R when i come home. dere sa states naa koy armalite w/ a thousand rounds of ammo. naa man guy daghang bu**** dinhi sa states. pang self defense. sa pinas di man ta maka dala ug armas so tagaan ta lang ka ug personal bodyguard. pa uban ta ni sgt. nick. taas ni sija ug ranggo sa phil. army but i call him sgt. and he calls me sir. baliktad. taas pod ni sija. pareha pareha mo ug height. oh my, cant wait to go back to cebu. mamords kaajo ang mga tsiks sa "videoke bar"

so long pipol :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Si cedere pateris adversarium vincere. Noli dare sursum. Servo in pugnae. ;)
#10248
Talk of the Town / Re: balay ni balong
October 13, 2012, 10:42:30 PM
Quote from: balong on October 13, 2012, 01:12:37 AM


          just kidding  ::)

Kuyawa pod imong balay, balong! Murag balay sa Doctor. ;D
#10249
Photos Unlimited / Re: Beautiful Gardens
October 13, 2012, 10:41:22 PM
#10250
Photos Unlimited / Re: Beautiful Gardens
October 13, 2012, 10:39:30 PM


;)  8)
#10251
Photos Unlimited / Beautiful Gardens
October 13, 2012, 10:38:24 PM


;)
#10252
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 11:28:54 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 02:14:09 PM
i'm no historian or sociologist, but any pedestrian mind can conclude that the chinese immigrants who came here worked harder and saved more in the same way perhaps that filipinos who immigrate or work abroad work harder and save more.



That is a good answer. But if I may ask you another question lang, Isles. I hope you don't mind my questions as I would like to know more lang pod.

I accept the fact that the Chinese had to work hard when they entered into the host country, the Philippines. However, both the immigrant Chinese worked as hard as the native Filipino who lived in the bukid, or, the Filipino squatter who moved to Manila to find a job.

Why did the former, the chinese immigrant, succeed whereas the latter did not in relations to the former? Did not the squatter , or the bukidnon work as hard, or even harder than the chinese? Do you think there was some kind of cultural upbringing the chinese had that influenced him / her to save more ?

I don't credit education here. Because the Chinese immigrant came to the philippines were uneducated. They were in the same playing field as many of the native filipinos. In fact the native filipinos had an advantage as they were given preferential treatment by the spaniards as compared to the chinese, whom the spaniards disdained so fervently. anti-chinese laws that the spanish crown implemented were even akin to the american jim crowe laws of post-antebellum period.
#10253
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 11:17:22 PM
Apparently, wealthy and influential nature of Chinese immigrants into the Philippines is not just a Filipino trait. The Chinese who live in other south east asian countries dominate the economic sector in those countries and are quite wealthy. For example Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia.

This is quite interesting. I'd like to know the reason for their success. Why are the Chinese immigrants capable of overtaking and out-performing their host neighbors?

Id like to know the independent variables that have influenced the dependent variable -- economic success.
#10254
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 02:14:09 PM
i'm no historian or sociologist, but any pedestrian mind can conclude that the chinese immigrants who came here worked harder and saved more in the same way perhaps that filipinos who immigrate or work abroad work harder and save more.

if we consider the history of the current filipino-chinese taipans, how they started from scratch and how they worked their backs off to achieve what they are now, we could cry.

why the name SM (for shoe mart) came to be is a case in point.

Thank you, isles, for that answer. I want to repost your statemen here in this page so that we can read it -- and not be hid in the previous posts.

I have another question for you, Isles. Why is it that the Chinese, who were placed in the lowest position in the social class -- were able to climb up the ladder so vibrantly and so much that there is a perception in Filipino society that Chinese are "wealthy" or "datu".

Why is this not true for say, the African-Americans , who were descendants of slaves in the United States. Why did not the African-Americans climb up the social class ladder in the United States as well as the Chinese did in the Philippines.

Can you explain to me, and perhaps for all of us, why the Chinese were capable of doing it and some other races not? To give you some information, in the United States society, African Americans have one of the lowest per capita in the United States. Asian Americans are the highest earners, followed by White Americans, and then African Americans & Latin Americans.

Of the Asian Americans, the Chinese-Americans are one of the highest and most dynamic groups. In fact Chinese-Americans are the most populous of the Asian-American groups.

So to reiterate my question again for you to answer: Why is this not true for say, the African-Americans , who were descendants of slaves in the United States. Why did not the African-Americans climb up the social class ladder in the United States as well as the Chinese did in the Philippines?
#10255
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 10:53:38 PM




President Benigno Aquino III, who is part Chinese, posing with other Wàh fèi at a Filipino-Chinese Chamber of Commerce economic symposium

The influence of Chinese-Filipinos in Philippine politics and finance, made manifest. :)
#10256
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 10:43:03 PM
A modern day Wàh fèi [Chinese-Filipino]:



  :)
#10257
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 10:35:22 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 04:41:29 PM
there's no way that i can without contacting her relations, which may put them on the defensive, heaven forbid.  (am i up to something?  some business venture that might need their capital?  hehe, i'm too filipino with enough pride to save myself from such suspicions.  we were friends because we knew how to treat each other's differences and we both exercised mutual trust.  i don't want to dispel that.)

so i wish to meet her again one day only by some coincidence and not by my active moves to seek her out.  that would be good enough for me. 

Then I wish that you will see your friend again in the near future. There is great joy when two friends cross paths again. :)

PS. I'm sure your friend does think of you -- as you do about her. :)
#10258
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 10:33:30 PM


Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 04:53:29 PM
rightly so, though i was never comfortable because i don't speak like a real bol-anon, feeling like the perpetual outsider wherever i am.  when i'm in bohol i'm taken as cebuano.  in cebu as a child i was a waray.  as an adult in cebu i'm boholano.  outside the country, i'm either chinese or japanese.  at least, to my cats, i'm a human being.  i wonder what i'd be to the martians. ;D

i'll be off for awhile.  time to feed those cats at the third floor.  see you later, guys.


I shall see you later, isles. i did enjoy discussing with you about this topic. and in addition, thank you for sharing with me and the rest of the forum about the domestic history of dimiao. i learned something new today.

Have a good day! 
#10259
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 10:27:59 PM
Quote from: Raquelproud boholana on October 11, 2012, 10:23:44 PM
Murag kaliwat ra jud dagway mi ni Yoyoy kay si magellan ingtikbasan man to ug wala to kaliwat. Maglisod man ko moangkon ug chinese ko ug kaliwat kay dako jud ko ug mata pero akong uban igsoon tsaynis ug mata apil mga ig agaw. Matsaynis ra ko ug mokaon ko daghan ginamos hehehe pagka ugma ang mata sure tsaynis.

Selective chinese a la genamos diay ka, Raquel. ha ha ha!

On a serious note tho, it's really tricky when trying to find one's parental ancestry. Phenotypical appearance can try to hide what is genotypically true. The trick to finalizing proof is finding papers of one's ancestor's entry point into the country.

I have a friend at work who is Pinoy, he looks more inchikon than I, pero he is pure pinoy. Segoro hilig ra siya mo kaon og ginamos na pait zamo. ;D
#10260
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 10:23:48 PM
He he he, as a child I attended Bohol Wisdom School, which is a Chinese-school there in Tagbilaran. I remember when I went there as a child, most of my friends were Chinese-Filipinos. It is true that Chinese do try to stick to their own. Perhaps it is a cultural trait noh? Anyways, I do try to keep in contact with them.

There was a girl who I had a crush on back then. Her family name was Do. When I had facebook two years ago, I tried searching for her and had found her. Sayang kai naa na siya'y nobio. Inchik pod. :P
#10261
Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi I'm Shielajoy!
October 11, 2012, 10:18:44 PM
Welcome to Tubag Bohol, Maria. :)
#10262
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
October 11, 2012, 10:17:50 PM
Coffee party? O wow, kuyawa pod uy!

Today I'm off. Going to get ready to head to the library in a bit. :)
#10263
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 04:16:29 PM
Isles, pure Bol-anon gayod ka. Was not your Mama from Valencia ?
#10264
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on October 11, 2012, 04:02:29 PM
A thousand-year-old prophetic portrait of Botoy...





;D

he he he, do you get the occasional belly rub for good luck? ;D
#10265
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 04:05:39 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 03:54:18 PM
they did.  they do.  this is their home country now.  but such assimilation is only up to a certain point.  this is understandable.  even filipinos in the u.s. assimilate smoothly, yet they celebrate what their home country celebrates, from town fiestas to philippine independence day.  there is this need to make a connection with one's past while we try to live in the present.

here's a personal experience...

years ago, i could even say decades ago, as a young girl in tagbilaran i got to befriend someone from a known local filipino-chinese family.  she's one of the most practical friends i knew.  despite their wealth, she lived simply, sans arrogance or display of material privilege.  that's why we were friends. :D 

anyway (at a time when tagbilaran still didn't have discos and parties with dancing were held in residences), as a friend, she put it to me straight... don't go jamming when it's an invitation from a chinese guy, she warned.  you may notice that there would be no chinese girl in such parties.  we chinese girls are meant for another group, exclusively ours.  when they invite filipino girls, they mean to commit "chancing" and behave less gentlemanly.  (i hope this trend had stopped.)  if we chinese are made as the butt of jokes by filipinos, we chinese also make jokes out of you, she said.  we believe that filipinos are spendthrifts, spending like millionaires even when they don't have money... (i miss this friend; i heard she had settled in the u.s.)

you see, lorenz, discrimination is mutual.   

That's interesting that you posted that, I never knew about that. Well I did hear about the more conservative members of Chinese families in the Philippines where they do try to stick to their own. I know that more of the afluent segments of the Chinese families in the Philippines usually encourage their children to marry Chinese as well. I know this because my great grand father preferred my grandmother  to marry a Chinese, but my Lola fell in love with my Lolo Ciano (who is a pure blooded pinoy from baranggay Anas, Valencia). So by doing this she went against norms.

Your friend has a point tho, Isles. In her defense, her comment reflected her upbringing. It stems back to their Confucian culture in valuing the importance of hard work and saving. I tend to be like that. I try to be very Chinese in regards to my finances. Part of the Confucian cultural upbringing stresses the importance of saving at least 50 % of one's earnings. I'm sure your friend did not mean to insult in any way, but perhaps tried to explain her upbringing.

Yes, I agree with you, that discrimination is an unfortunate effect of misunderstanding.

PS. Have you not tried contacting your friend?
#10266
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 03:55:26 PM
I would also like to address something, since we touched into this, the issue of colonial mentality being an issue of concern.

Have you noticed how in Filipino media, most , if not all, of the actors and actresses are white-mestiso? It is clear that the overwhelming majority of Filipinos are not white-mestiso, but are indio / natibo. Why are not the malay-looking filipinos ever in philippine cinema and media? Is colonial mentality that strong in the Philippines?

The use of skin whiteners in the Philippines is almost disgusting. Many morena looking women applying these creams -- denying their own natural skin tone and beauty.

A truly sad  effect of colonial mentality. tsk.
#10267
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 03:45:34 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 02:56:36 PM
unfortunately, this kind of discrimination is more universal than we care to admit.  consider the mexicans in the u.s.  that's how the chinese once were, in our country.  even if subsequent generations are beyond this, we can't help but take on the attitudes and biases and sins of our forebears.

A very good point, Isles. One can't help but link the racial comments as a lingering effect of Hispanization, where the Spanish institutionalized a race-based social structure. With the Spanish Whites , of course, being at the zenith of that social order.

Unfortunately that colonial mentality seems to have lingered ...in the Philippines.
#10268
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 02:47:17 PM
according to the story, the chinese were made to feel unwelcome, even to the point of having their place stoned sureptitiously during the night.  so they bailed out and settled in the nearest big barangay to establish themselves.  this was valencia.

through the generations, valencia became more vibrant economically, purportedly because of its chinese community, while dimiao stood still in time along with its quiet comfort and, let's face it, music and culture and tradition. 

we know how a vibrant economic activity affects the whole community.  valencia produced more professionals per capita

today, it is valencia that has its own hospital that serves neighboring towns, including dimiao. 

p.s.  as i read those caratolas in valencia, i noticed too that there really was no filipino-chinese family in dimiao.  i wonder if things are still the same.  i haven't been in those two towns for a long time now (except for those occasional few minutes at the cemeteries to honor the dead).


Very interesting information, Isles. The Chinese are almost very akin to the Jews, in regards to the financial zeal, noh? I remember having a conversation with my gf's father some time ago. The conversation was about Cebu, Bacolod and Iloilo City.

He said to me that Cebu City is truly the "Queen City of the South". But he said something -- in regards to Cebu's financial strength -- the Chinese factor.

Apparently, during the 1950's, there were a lot of Chinese in Iloilo City, but the govermental policies at the time there were not -- favorable -- to them. Because of the xenophobic atmosphere there, the prominent Chinese families of Iloilo City moved to Cebu. He credits Cebu's financial and economic preeminence in the region -- to the massive Chinese community in the province and in the city.

No doubt, the Confucian work ethic that these people kept played a role in Cebu's financial growth. Even now, Cebu is only second to Manila.
#10269
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 03:25:49 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 02:47:17 PM
our father told us a wee bit of overlooked history about this, though i don't know the real score.  truth must be out there somewhere in the middle...

valencia's filipino-chinese, the forebears of the current lims included, once tried to establish themselves as storeowners in dimiao, back at a time when valencia was just a barangay of dimiao (no wonder, valencia being just 10 kilometers away). 

but dimiao was rather xenophobic.  (peace, dimiaonons.  this was long ago.  my father is from dimiao; this makes me half-dimiaonon.)  according to the story, the chinese were made to feel unwelcome, even to the point of having their place stoned sureptitiously during the night.  so they bailed out and settled in the nearest big barangay to establish themselves.  this was valencia.

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Laina pod noh? I cannot imagine why they were like this -- as if they were projecting their anger to the Chinese. The native Dimiaonons were looked down upon by the Spaniards for being 'indio / natibo'. Was this their way of projecting their anger by looking down on Chinese?

It's just funny how in the colonial days, the Spaniards , the Spanish-mestisos , and the native filipinos looked down on Chinese people for being "inferior".

Now, these people are marrying rich Chinese-Filipinos. The irony and the hypocrisy. Now, the current elite are the Chinese.

#10270
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 03:11:40 PM
A portrait of my great grand father, Tan Ngai He (Mariano Tan). He was 22 in this picture. Taken in 1903.
This was his immigration photo.

#10271
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 03:07:48 PM
My beloved grandmother: Mrs. Fortunata Tan - Salvo


:)
#10272
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 02:56:36 PM
unfortunately, this kind of discrimination is more universal than we care to admit.  consider the mexicans in the u.s.  that's how the chinese once were, in our country.  even if subsequent generations are beyond this, we can't help but take on the attitudes and biases and sins of our forebears.

Growing up in the United States, I would ask my mom about our ancestry and our family history. She would say to me, "growing up , it was not popular to ask too much questions about our chinese ancestry...."

It was apparent that the Chinese Filipinos tried hard to assimilate into the general Filipino culture. In my view, it should be prioritized to maintain one's cultural identity -- and not be ashamed of one's heritage. When I went back home to Bohol in 2010, I made it a point to find out more information about my mom's side. Luckily for me my Uncle Romeo had kept a picture of my Lolo Mariano -- his old immigration documents-- when he immigrated to the Philippines i 1903.

My Uncle asked me why I was so interested in the history. We shared so many conversations at night-- mostly about my grand father and my grandmother , his sharing with me of the stories how my Lolo Mariano carried the church bells to the bell tower in Valencia Parish. Stories of how he talked like, the songs he used to sing to his kids, to even how he looked like.

I remember one time when my Uncle Romeo, who was 5 years old when my great grandfather was still alive, he said to me that if Lolo Mariano was alive, he would have loved me -- for my dedication to his memory -- and to his story.

I cried when we had that conversation. I imagine what his voice would have sounded like. No doubt, if i had met him, I would have smiled at hearing his Cantonese accent. Apparently he looked like my Lola Nating. ;D

Had I met my lolo mariano, i would have hugged him, and kissed his cheeks. If he did not migrate to the Philippines, I would not exist.
#10273
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 02:14:09 PM
i'm no historian or sociologist, but any pedestrian mind can conclude that the chinese immigrants who came here worked harder and saved more in the same way perhaps that filipinos who immigrate or work abroad work harder and save more.

if we consider the history of the current filipino-chinese taipans, how they started from scratch and how they worked their backs off to achieve what they are now, we could cry.

why the name SM (for shoe mart) came to be is a case in point.

I liked your answer, Isles. To be honest with you, I don't know about the story of SM, but now that you mentioned it here, I'm going to read about it.

When my Lola was still alive she told me that when they were growing up as kids in Bohol, the other school children would taunt her for being Chinese. Lola told me that her father, who was an immigrant from China, spoke with a very strong Cantonese accent. Because of this, there were some people who taunted him. Despite this limitation, however, my grand father was a very successful businessman.

She said that during her youth, it was very unpopular kono to be Chinese kai people used to mock them. Now, in the current era, I notice that there are some Filipinos who take advantage of the current China-Philippines territorial row to hurl racist comments on Chinese or Chinese-Filipinos. I've even read in some blogs where Pinoys say idiotic things such as, 'All Chinese are scum, Chinese are liars and thieves...etc etc'. Reading comments like these , to be honest, made my blood boil.

It seems as if there is a sense of jealousy and animosity towards the Chinese Filipinos.

I don't know why some Filipinos who are of Chinese ancestry are almost afraid or scared to be proud of their heritage.

#10274
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
October 11, 2012, 01:56:08 PM
#10275
Weird and Extreme / Re: CANNIBAL ATTACK IN CHINA
October 11, 2012, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 01:49:36 PM
mora lagi ug dog food nang nakatag sa sawog.  di na cat food kay dagko ra...

Could be. Possibly.
#10276
Weird and Extreme / Re: CANNIBAL ATTACK IN CHINA
October 11, 2012, 01:52:48 PM
One thing I notice is that both Mr. Chen and Mr. Wu are sporting sandals. :P
#10277
Question and Answer / Re: What is your pet of choice?
October 11, 2012, 01:51:37 PM
Quote from: islander on October 08, 2012, 11:31:12 AM
are kaiser and pippa anne friends?  looks like, right?

Yes, they're very fond of each other. Brother and sister. :)
#10278
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:49:21 PM
Contribution in Philippine Health Care



In health care, Chinese Filipinos were instrumental in establishing and building renowned medical centers in the country including the Chinese General Hospital and Medical Center, the Metropolitan Hospital, the Angelo King Medical Center at the De La Salle Health Sciences Institute, Chong-Hua Hospital and the St. Luke's Medical Center, one of Asia's leading health care institutions.



Chong-Hua Hospital in Cebu, City


Chinese General Hospital and Medical Center


St. Luke's Medical Center, Manila

#10279
Weird and Extreme / Re: CANNIBAL ATTACK IN CHINA
October 11, 2012, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: Lollapalooza on October 11, 2012, 11:42:08 AM
60-year-old furiously biting 28-year-old teacher over a seat in Guangzhou Metro. The incident was caught on tape by a female passenger, who uploaded the clip to Chinese website Sina Weibo, China Daily reports.

The older man, a 67-year-old who has been identified only as "Chen," boarded the subway at around 8:30 a.m., according to Sina.com. The younger man, a 28-year-old identified as "Wu," reportedly shoved Chen out of the way as he scrambled to get a seat.

Chen then began chastising Wu for not respecting his elders, a witness told New Express Daily, according to China Daily's translation. The woman says the older man then punched Wu, resulting in a physical fight that ended with the biting scene in the video.

The witness noted that bystanders initially did try to break up the fight, but it quickly became so violent that they were frightened away.

Both Chen and Wu suffered only minor injuries, according to Sina.com's translation of the Southern Metropolis Daily.

Neither man is facing charges, and both reportedly apologize for their actions. Even so, residents of Guangzhou may want to consider seeing if they can get in on the zombie apocalypse training offered by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, just to be safe. (c)Huffingtonpost.com





A 28 year being dominated by a 67 year old man? Kuyawa pod si Lolo. :P
#10280
Weird and Extreme / Re: CANNIBAL ATTACK IN CHINA
October 11, 2012, 01:38:21 PM
There was a homeless man in Georgia who did the same thing. The last i read, that man was abusing bath salts. :P
#10281
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:31:28 PM
Surnames



Most Chinese Filipinos today have single syllable Chinese surnames, the most common of which are Tan (陳), Ong (王), Lim (æž—), Go/Ngo (吳), Ng/Uy/Wong (黃), Gao/Kao (高), Chua/Cua (è"¡), Sy/See/Si (æ–½), Co (許), Lee/Dy (李), and Ching/Chong (莊).

Chinese Filipinos, as well as Chinese mestizos who trace their roots back to Chinese immigrants to the Philippines during the Spanish Colonial Period, usually have multiple syllable Chinese surnames such as Chuacuco, Chuatoco, Cojuangco, Colico, Dioquino, Dyloco, Dytoc, Dy-Cok, Dytioco, Gueco, Gokongwei, Kimpo/Quimpo, Limcuando, Ongpin, Pempengco, Quebengco, Sycip, Tambengco, Tambunting, Tanbonliong, Tantoco, Tiongson, Tungol, Yap, Yuchengco, Tanciangco, Yu, Yuipco, and Yupangco, among such others. These were originally full Chinese names which were transliterated into Spanish and adopted as surnames.


There are also multiple syllable Chinese surnames that are Spanish transliterations of Hokkien words. Surnames like Tuazon (Eldest Grandson), Dizon (Second Grandson), Samson (Third Grandson), Singson (Fourth Grandson), Gozon (Fifth Grandson), Lacson (Sixth Grandson) are examples of Hokkien words with Spanish transliterations used as surnames for some Chinese Filipinos who trace their ancestry from Chinese immigrants to the Philippines during the Spanish Colonial Period also. In contrast, more recent immigrants have single syllable Chinese surnames. Many Chinese mestizos (as well as Spanish-Chinese and Tornatrás) have also either inherited or took on Spanish or indigenous surnames, such as Espiritu, Martines, Madrigal, Santos, or Zarate. A lot of Chinese Filipinos also took on Filipino surnames the moment they were naturalized. Today, it is difficult to identify who are Chinese Filipinos based on surnames alone.

To determine who Chinese Filipinos are, one should know their background and family history and culture.



reference: wikipedia
#10282
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:23:24 PM
Ang Vice Governor sa Bohol, si Dra. Conching Lim, the former Mayor of Valencia. Inchik pod.
#10283
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:22:56 PM
Ang Mayor sa Tagbilaran, Lim pod. :P
#10284
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:22:37 PM
Even in Valencia, the mayors are mostly Chinese. Either Lim or Gan. :P
#10285
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:18:37 PM
Historical tid bit: During the spanish colonial era, the Chinese were considered "dogs" or the lowest of the social order. They were discriminated by ethnic Malays and by the Spanish.

Question: How did the Chinese overcome such racial discrimination? How did the lowest "social class" in the Philippines become the most prosperous in the entire country?


I'd like to hear your answer....
#10286
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:14:11 PM
Economic aptitude




Ethnic Chinese play a key role in the Philippine economy, as they do throughout Southeast Asia. Chinese Filipino entrepreneurs are particularly strong adherents to the Confucian paradigm of intrapersonal relationships. Many Chinese Filipino entrepreneurs have a proclivity to reinvest most of their business profits for expansion. A small percentage of the firms were managed by Chinese with entrepreneurial talent, were able to grow their small enterprises into gargantuan conglomerates.


Filipinos of ethnic Chinese origin control an estimated 50 to 60 percent of nonland share capital in the Philippines, and as much as 35 percent of total sales are attributed to the largest public and private firms controlled by ethnic Chinese.


Ethnic Chinese entrepreneurs are estimated to control 60 to 70 percent of the Filipino economy.They essentially focus on sectors such as semiconductors and chemicals, real estate, land, and property development, banking, engineering, construction, fiber, textiles, finance, consumer electronics, food, and personal computers. In the Philippines, ethnic Chinese are estimated to control over one-third of the 1000 largest corporations. In the Philippines, Chinese entrepreneurs control 47 of the 68 locally owned public companies. 55 percent of overall Filipino private business is also generated by ethnic Chinese. Chinese owned companies account for 66% of the sixty largest commercial entities.


The majority of the Philippines' principal banks are now Chinese Filipino-controlled, including Philippine Savings Bank and most notably Metrobank Group, the country's largest and most aggressive financial conglomerate. By the mid 1990's ethnic Chinese controlled 40% of the national corporate equity. Ethnic Chinese also control the shipping, textiles, construction, real estate, pharmaceuticals, manufacturing, and personal computer industries as well as the nation's wholesale distribution networks. Outside of commerce and finance, Chinese Filipinos control 6 of the 10 English-language newspapers in Manila. Apart from the aristocratic Zobel de Ayala family and most notably the Marcos family, Bong Bong and Imee are currently both elected officials in the Philippines In addition, most the wealthiest billionaires in the Philippines are Filipino Chinese or of partial Chinese descent, according to a report by Philippine Star.


reference: wikipedia
#10287
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:07:20 PM
Chinese-Mestizos in the Philippines


Chinese mestizos are persons of mixed Chinese and either indigenous Malay or Spanish (or both) ancestry. They make up 20% of the country's total population (those who are pure blooded or at least 50% Chinese make up at least 2% of the population). A number of Chinese mestizos have surnames that reflect their heritage, mostly two or three syllables that have Chinese roots (e.g., the full name of a Chinese ancestor) with a Hispanized phonetic spelling. The Chinese mestizos may also be known as Tsinoys (alternatively spelled as "Chinoy"), although this term may also refer to the full-blooded Chinese Filipinos; and/or Chinito, a term that largely denotes physical characteristics (referring to slanted eyes) rather than ethnic origin or cultural orientation. During Spanish times, they were legally classified as Mestizo de Sangley which was printed on their cedulas or community tax certificates.

During the Spanish colonial period, the Spanish authorities encouraged the Chinese male immigrants to convert to Catholicism. Those who converted got baptized and their names Hispanized, and were allowed to intermarry with indigenous Malay women. They and their mestizo offspring became colonial subjects of the Spanish crown, and as such were granted several privileges and afforded numerous opportunities denied to the unconverted Chinese. Starting as traders, they branched out into landleasing, moneylending and later, landholding.


reference: wikipedia
#10288
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:06:11 PM
Chinese-Filipinos in the Philippines


Chinese Filipinos are well represented in all levels of Filipino society, and well integrated politically and economically. The ethnically Chinese Filipinos comprise 1.3% (1.1 million) of the population or 22% of the population including Chinese mestizos, Chinese Filipinos are present within several commerce and business sectors in the Philippines and are estimated to own a majority of the Filipino economy.

The Chinese Filipinos has always been one of the largest ethnic groups in the country with Chinese immigrants comprising the largest group of immigrant settlers in the Philippines. They are one of the three major ethnic groupings in the Philippines, namely: Christian Filipinos (73% of the population-including indigenous ethnic minorities), Muslim Filipinos (5% of the population) and Chinese Filipinos (22% of the population-including Chinese mestizos). Today, most Chinese Filipinos are locally born. The rate of intermarriage between Chinese settlers and indigenous Filipinos is among the highest in Southeast Asia, exceeded only by Thailand.

However, intermarriages occurred mostly during the Spanish colonial period because Chinese immigrants to the Philippines up to the 19th century were predominantly male. It was only in the 20th century that Chinese women and children came in comparable numbers. Today, Chinese Filipino male and female populations are practically equal in numbers. These Chinese mestizos, products of intermarriages during the Spanish colonial period, then often opted to marry other Chinese or Chinese mestizos. Generally, Chinese mestizos is a term referring to people with a partial Chinese ancestry.

#10289
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 01:03:13 PM
The Cantonese term for Chinese- Filipino is: Wàh fèi [  华菲 ].
#10290
Question and Answer / Re: Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
100% Chinese ahoang lola ; ang mama sa ahoang mama. So that makes me 1/4th Chinese.

Lola's side comes from Guanzhou. I have relatives there gehapon. Distant na jud.

:)
#10291
Combat in the bedroom eh? :)
#10292
Question and Answer / Are you part Chinese ?
October 11, 2012, 12:56:37 PM
Who here is part Chinese?

Ayaw pa uwaw..ha...don't let the Scarborough Shoal incident deflect your interest in your ancestral heritage...
#10293
Fashion Trend / Re: Extreme photoshopping
October 11, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: islander on October 11, 2012, 12:52:31 PM

picstopin.com

Kelly Clarkson

Kelly Clarkson looks trim and adorable in this September issue of Selfâ€"under the headline “Total Body Confidence”â€"except that her “confident” body has been digitally slimmed down. (The image at left was taken around the same time as her magazine shoot.) Two Self editors explained that the cover was not “journalism,” but “meant to inspire women who want to be their best.” Some message. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/)


He he he, she's got some junk in that trunk. :)
#10294
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
October 11, 2012, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: islander on October 10, 2012, 06:12:33 PM
this is nice of you, langs.  wa ko kaabot ni aya dinhi sa tb, pero daghan kog nabasa bahin niya ug sa iyang posts.  great girl.  she was.  or is.  (i would like to believe she's still with us.)  tb is lucky that she had graced this forum.

she lives in her children. 

She was truly the heart and soul of TB. One word describes Virginia. Mommy-like. Very Mommy-like gajud to sija. I am sure , am confident, that she is in Heaven.
#10295
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
October 11, 2012, 12:30:24 PM
Virginia's oldest daughter is her carbon copy. She looks like her mother. Thanks for meeting up with them, Tita Sol. Please extend our warm and loving regards to them. Tell them that we miss and love their mother!

God Bless them , always. May He continue to watch over them and protect them and may He shower them with graces from Heaven. Always.
#10296
Quote from: islander on October 10, 2012, 03:09:29 PM
i'll try lorenz.  (there's a little part in his true story that i didn't like; that part after his heroic trip when he and his team members were neglected.) 

balto is another dog's name i'll use for a future dog that i may have. :D

I never knew about that part of his life, Isles. Luoy pod. He truly was a hero.
#10297
The first time I saw the movie 'Balto', I was 10 years old. My sister and I asked our parents to buy the VHS for us. During the end of the movie, I was amazed at how my younger sister (who was 8 at the time) was crying in the end. :)

Luoy pod si inday.
#10298
Bible Study / Re: Patients Draw Near-Death Experiences
October 11, 2012, 12:18:38 PM
I have seen patients who , prior to moment of death, mention something about feeling a sense of "peace". I have had a patient, an older lady, who prayed the rosary moments before her death. I remember her mentioning about seeing Angels around her room. They were waiting for her. An hour after she said this, she passed away.

Her rosary was still in her hand. Her eyes were looking at the window, still open.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there were Angels waiting for her....
#10299
Bible Study / Re: Patients Draw Near-Death Experiences
October 11, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
Near Death Experience is the brain's (neurocognitive) way of trying to rationalize and express the physiological changes that occur in the brain , namely the surge of electrical activity and neurohormonal release.

Mr. Daray, NDEs by no means refer to the real state after death. As they are cognitive rationalization on the patient's part.

The mere fact that a patient experienced an NDE does not repudiate the reality -- the fact -- that there is a purgatory. NDE's are nothing but neurocognitive rationalizations of neurophysiological changes. These are physical experiences -- that the physical body feels.

Hell, Purgatory or Heaven can only be experienced by one who has died. By the soul when it has left the physical body permanently.


#10300
Bible Study / Temporal Lobe Theory
October 11, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
Some features of the NDE are known to occur in a type of epilepsy associated with damage to the temporal lobe of the brain, and researchers have found that by electrically stimulating this lobe they can mimic some elements of NDEs, such as leaving oneself behind, and the sense of life memories flashing past, although this is actually a common feature of NDEs. They believe that the stress of being near-death, or thinking that you are near-death, may in some way cause the stimulation of this lobe. There is some evidence to support this theory in the lower numbers of NDEs reported by people who suffer strokes which affect this part of the brain, or have tumors in this area. But there is also a case against: the characteristic emotions that result from temporal lobe stimulation are fear, sadness, and loneliness, not the calm and love of a NDE. Also, scientists may be simply discovering the mechanism connected with the mind/body separation thought by some to occur at death. Because a chemical mechanism is present in the brain, this does not mea NDEs are strictly chemical reactions. Science may only be describing the aspect of dying that deals with the brain.



http://near-death.com/experiences/experts01.html#theory4