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Are you part Chinese ?
« on: October 11, 2012, 12:56:37 PM »
Who here is part Chinese?

Ayaw pa uwaw..ha...don't let the Scarborough Shoal incident deflect your interest in your ancestral heritage...

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2012, 12:59:32 PM »
100% Chinese ahoang lola ; ang mama sa ahoang mama. So that makes me 1/4th Chinese.

Lola's side comes from Guanzhou. I have relatives there gehapon. Distant na jud.

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2012, 01:03:13 PM »
The Cantonese term for Chinese- Filipino is: Wàh fèi [  华菲 ].

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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2012, 01:06:11 PM »
Chinese-Filipinos in the Philippines


Chinese Filipinos are well represented in all levels of Filipino society, and well integrated politically and economically. The ethnically Chinese Filipinos comprise 1.3% (1.1 million) of the population or 22% of the population including Chinese mestizos, Chinese Filipinos are present within several commerce and business sectors in the Philippines and are estimated to own a majority of the Filipino economy.

The Chinese Filipinos has always been one of the largest ethnic groups in the country with Chinese immigrants comprising the largest group of immigrant settlers in the Philippines. They are one of the three major ethnic groupings in the Philippines, namely: Christian Filipinos (73% of the population-including indigenous ethnic minorities), Muslim Filipinos (5% of the population) and Chinese Filipinos (22% of the population-including Chinese mestizos). Today, most Chinese Filipinos are locally born. The rate of intermarriage between Chinese settlers and indigenous Filipinos is among the highest in Southeast Asia, exceeded only by Thailand.

 However, intermarriages occurred mostly during the Spanish colonial period because Chinese immigrants to the Philippines up to the 19th century were predominantly male. It was only in the 20th century that Chinese women and children came in comparable numbers. Today, Chinese Filipino male and female populations are practically equal in numbers. These Chinese mestizos, products of intermarriages during the Spanish colonial period, then often opted to marry other Chinese or Chinese mestizos. Generally, Chinese mestizos is a term referring to people with a partial Chinese ancestry.



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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 01:07:20 PM »
Chinese-Mestizos in the Philippines


Chinese mestizos are persons of mixed Chinese and either indigenous Malay or Spanish (or both) ancestry. They make up 20% of the country's total population (those who are pure blooded or at least 50% Chinese make up at least 2% of the population). A number of Chinese mestizos have surnames that reflect their heritage, mostly two or three syllables that have Chinese roots (e.g., the full name of a Chinese ancestor) with a Hispanized phonetic spelling. The Chinese mestizos may also be known as Tsinoys (alternatively spelled as "Chinoy"), although this term may also refer to the full-blooded Chinese Filipinos; and/or Chinito, a term that largely denotes physical characteristics (referring to slanted eyes) rather than ethnic origin or cultural orientation. During Spanish times, they were legally classified as Mestizo de Sangley which was printed on their cedulas or community tax certificates.

During the Spanish colonial period, the Spanish authorities encouraged the Chinese male immigrants to convert to Catholicism. Those who converted got baptized and their names Hispanized, and were allowed to intermarry with indigenous Malay women. They and their mestizo offspring became colonial subjects of the Spanish crown, and as such were granted several privileges and afforded numerous opportunities denied to the unconverted Chinese. Starting as traders, they branched out into landleasing, moneylending and later, landholding.


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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 01:14:11 PM »
Economic aptitude




Ethnic Chinese play a key role in the Philippine economy, as they do throughout Southeast Asia. Chinese Filipino entrepreneurs are particularly strong adherents to the Confucian paradigm of intrapersonal relationships. Many Chinese Filipino entrepreneurs have a proclivity to reinvest most of their business profits for expansion. A small percentage of the firms were managed by Chinese with entrepreneurial talent, were able to grow their small enterprises into gargantuan conglomerates.


Filipinos of ethnic Chinese origin control an estimated 50 to 60 percent of nonland share capital in the Philippines, and as much as 35 percent of total sales are attributed to the largest public and private firms controlled by ethnic Chinese.


Ethnic Chinese entrepreneurs are estimated to control 60 to 70 percent of the Filipino economy.They essentially focus on sectors such as semiconductors and chemicals, real estate, land, and property development, banking, engineering, construction, fiber, textiles, finance, consumer electronics, food, and personal computers. In the Philippines, ethnic Chinese are estimated to control over one-third of the 1000 largest corporations. In the Philippines, Chinese entrepreneurs control 47 of the 68 locally owned public companies. 55 percent of overall Filipino private business is also generated by ethnic Chinese. Chinese owned companies account for 66% of the sixty largest commercial entities.


The majority of the Philippines' principal banks are now Chinese Filipino-controlled, including Philippine Savings Bank and most notably Metrobank Group, the country's largest and most aggressive financial conglomerate. By the mid 1990's ethnic Chinese controlled 40% of the national corporate equity. Ethnic Chinese also control the shipping, textiles, construction, real estate, pharmaceuticals, manufacturing, and personal computer industries as well as the nation's wholesale distribution networks. Outside of commerce and finance, Chinese Filipinos control 6 of the 10 English-language newspapers in Manila. Apart from the aristocratic Zobel de Ayala family and most notably the Marcos family, Bong Bong and Imee are currently both elected officials in the Philippines In addition, most the wealthiest billionaires in the Philippines are Filipino Chinese or of partial Chinese descent, according to a report by Philippine Star.


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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 01:18:37 PM »
Historical tid bit: During the spanish colonial era, the Chinese were considered "dogs" or the lowest of the social order. They were discriminated by ethnic Malays and by the Spanish.

Question: How did the Chinese overcome such racial discrimination? How did the lowest "social class" in the Philippines become the most prosperous in the entire country?


I'd like to hear your answer....

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 01:22:37 PM »
Even in Valencia, the mayors are mostly Chinese. Either Lim or Gan. :P

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 01:22:56 PM »
Ang Mayor sa Tagbilaran, Lim pod. :P

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 01:23:24 PM »
Ang Vice Governor sa Bohol, si Dra. Conching Lim, the former Mayor of Valencia. Inchik pod.

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 01:31:28 PM »
Surnames



Most Chinese Filipinos today have single syllable Chinese surnames, the most common of which are Tan (陳), Ong (王), Lim (林), Go/Ngo (吳), Ng/Uy/Wong (黃), Gao/Kao (高), Chua/Cua (蔡), Sy/See/Si (施), Co (許), Lee/Dy (李), and Ching/Chong (莊).

Chinese Filipinos, as well as Chinese mestizos who trace their roots back to Chinese immigrants to the Philippines during the Spanish Colonial Period, usually have multiple syllable Chinese surnames such as Chuacuco, Chuatoco, Cojuangco, Colico, Dioquino, Dyloco, Dytoc, Dy-Cok, Dytioco, Gueco, Gokongwei, Kimpo/Quimpo, Limcuando, Ongpin, Pempengco, Quebengco, Sycip, Tambengco, Tambunting, Tanbonliong, Tantoco, Tiongson, Tungol, Yap, Yuchengco, Tanciangco, Yu, Yuipco, and Yupangco, among such others. These were originally full Chinese names which were transliterated into Spanish and adopted as surnames.


There are also multiple syllable Chinese surnames that are Spanish transliterations of Hokkien words. Surnames like Tuazon (Eldest Grandson), Dizon (Second Grandson), Samson (Third Grandson), Singson (Fourth Grandson), Gozon (Fifth Grandson), Lacson (Sixth Grandson) are examples of Hokkien words with Spanish transliterations used as surnames for some Chinese Filipinos who trace their ancestry from Chinese immigrants to the Philippines during the Spanish Colonial Period also. In contrast, more recent immigrants have single syllable Chinese surnames. Many Chinese mestizos (as well as Spanish-Chinese and Tornatrás) have also either inherited or took on Spanish or indigenous surnames, such as Espiritu, Martines, Madrigal, Santos, or Zarate. A lot of Chinese Filipinos also took on Filipino surnames the moment they were naturalized. Today, it is difficult to identify who are Chinese Filipinos based on surnames alone.

To determine who Chinese Filipinos are, one should know their background and family history and culture.



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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2012, 01:49:21 PM »
Contribution in Philippine Health Care



In health care, Chinese Filipinos were instrumental in establishing and building renowned medical centers in the country including the Chinese General Hospital and Medical Center, the Metropolitan Hospital, the Angelo King Medical Center at the De La Salle Health Sciences Institute, Chong-Hua Hospital and the St. Luke's Medical Center, one of Asia's leading health care institutions.



Chong-Hua Hospital in Cebu, City


Chinese General Hospital and Medical Center


St. Luke's Medical Center, Manila



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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 02:14:09 PM »
Historical tid bit: During the spanish colonial era, the Chinese were considered "dogs" or the lowest of the social order. They were discriminated by ethnic Malays and by the Spanish.

Question: How did the Chinese overcome such racial discrimination? How did the lowest "social class" in the Philippines become the most prosperous in the entire country?


I'd like to hear your answer....

i'm no historian or sociologist, but any pedestrian mind can conclude that the chinese immigrants who came here worked harder and saved more in the same way perhaps that filipinos who immigrate or work abroad work harder and save more.

if we consider the history of the current filipino-chinese taipans, how they started from scratch and how they worked their backs off to achieve what they are now, we could cry.

why the name SM (for shoe mart) came to be is a case in point.

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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2012, 02:47:17 PM »
Even in Valencia, the mayors are mostly Chinese. Either Lim or Gan. :P

our father told us a wee bit of overlooked history about this, though i don't know the real score.  truth must be out there somewhere in the middle...

valencia's filipino-chinese, the forebears of the current lims included, once tried to establish themselves as storeowners in dimiao, back at a time when valencia was just a barangay of dimiao (no wonder, valencia being just 10 kilometers away). 

but dimiao was rather xenophobic.  (peace, dimiaonons.  this was long ago.  my father is from dimiao; this makes me half-dimiaonon.)  according to the story, the chinese were made to feel unwelcome, even to the point of having their place stoned sureptitiously during the night.  so they bailed out and settled in the nearest big barangay to establish themselves.  this was valencia.

through the generations, valencia became more vibrant economically, purportedly because of its chinese community, while dimiao stood still in time along with its quiet comfort and, let's face it, music and culture and tradition. 

we know how a vibrant economic activity affects the whole community.  valencia produced more professionals per capita (i have no factual basis here; it's a story i simply heard and took as truth, judging from the town's practice of hanging caratolas in front of houses describing whose residence such and such is, i.e., attorney, engineer, doctor, what-nots).  in the old days, i enjoyed reading such signs (i honestly am not used to them), even considering that "NFA" for national food authority was also a college course.

take this situation into the bigger world... that explains the vibrancy of the u.s.  a country or a place that takes in and gives chances to different peoples with different talents from different cultures is bound to develop more. 

today, it is valencia that has its own hospital that serves neighboring towns, including dimiao. 

p.s.  as i read those caratolas in valencia, i noticed too that there really was no filipino-chinese family in dimiao.  i wonder if things are still the same.  i haven't been in those two towns for a long time now (except for those occasional few minutes at the cemeteries to honor the dead).

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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2012, 02:49:17 PM »
Ang Mayor sa Tagbilaran, Lim pod. :P

from his father's side, no doubt.  his mother is a neri, a close relative of the late vice-president emmanuel neri pelaez (1915 – 2003).  it was probably this relation that gave the current tagbilaran mayor a taste for politics.

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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2012, 02:49:36 PM »
i'm no historian or sociologist, but any pedestrian mind can conclude that the chinese immigrants who came here worked harder and saved more in the same way perhaps that filipinos who immigrate or work abroad work harder and save more.

if we consider the history of the current filipino-chinese taipans, how they started from scratch and how they worked their backs off to achieve what they are now, we could cry.

why the name SM (for shoe mart) came to be is a case in point.

I liked your answer, Isles. To be honest with you, I don't know about the story of SM, but now that you mentioned it here, I'm going to read about it.

When my Lola was still alive she told me that when they were growing up as kids in Bohol, the other school children would taunt her for being Chinese. Lola told me that her father, who was an immigrant from China, spoke with a very strong Cantonese accent. Because of this, there were some people who taunted him. Despite this limitation, however, my grand father was a very successful businessman.

She said that during her youth, it was very unpopular kono to be Chinese kai people used to mock them. Now, in the current era, I notice that there are some Filipinos who take advantage of the current China-Philippines territorial row to hurl racist comments on Chinese or Chinese-Filipinos. I've even read in some blogs where Pinoys say idiotic things such as, 'All Chinese are scum, Chinese are liars and thieves...etc etc'. Reading comments like these , to be honest, made my blood boil.

It seems as if there is a sense of jealousy and animosity towards the Chinese Filipinos.

I don't know why some Filipinos who are of Chinese ancestry are almost afraid or scared to be proud of their heritage.



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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2012, 02:52:44 PM »
wa lage moentra ang tinuoray nga insik...si talahurong  Laoshi Ge Hu Bag Gan. ;D

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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2012, 02:56:01 PM »
Ikaw Bugs murag may lahing chinese ba ka? akong hunahuna pareha tang duha dili chinese spanish tag kaliwat heheheh.


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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2012, 02:56:36 PM »
When my Lola was still alive she told me that when they were growing up as kids in Bohol, the other school children would taunt her for being Chinese.

unfortunately, this kind of discrimination is more universal than we care to admit.  consider the mexicans in the u.s.  that's how the chinese once were, in our country.  even if subsequent generations are beyond this, we can't help but take on the attitudes and biases and sins of our forebears.

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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 02:59:25 PM »
Ikaw Bugs murag may lahing chinese ba ka? akong hunahuna pareha tang duha dili chinese spanish tag kaliwat heheheh.


hehehe....medyo half chinese akong mata pero sa tinuoray mestiso nigerian akong panit....
suma total, exotic byuti. 8)
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2012, 03:01:32 PM »
wa lage moentra ang tinuoray nga insik...si talahurong  Laoshi Ge Hu Bag Gan. ;D

huwaton nato; pilay pad ug maka-entrada human sa iyang pagluto ug siopao.  basin makadungog tag balikas nga ininsik, sama sa piao singit. ;D

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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2012, 03:02:59 PM »
Ikaw Bugs murag may lahing chinese ba ka? akong hunahuna pareha tang duha dili chinese spanish tag kaliwat heheheh.

abi nakog portuguese mog kaliwat, sa linya ni magellan nga nasagolan sa linya ni yoyoy. ;D

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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2012, 03:04:02 PM »
hehehe....medyo half chinese akong mata pero sa tinuoray mestiso nigerian akong panit....
suma total, exotic byuti. 8)
 ;D

may puruhan diay nga either striped or checkered imong panit.  truly exotic. ;D

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2012, 03:06:41 PM »
unfortunately, this kind of discrimination is more universal than we care to admit.  consider the mexicans in the u.s.  that's how the chinese once were, in our country.  even if subsequent generations are beyond this, we can't help but take on the attitudes and biases and sins of our forebears.

Growing up in the United States, I would ask my mom about our ancestry and our family history. She would say to me, "growing up , it was not popular to ask too much questions about our chinese ancestry...."

It was apparent that the Chinese Filipinos tried hard to assimilate into the general Filipino culture. In my view, it should be prioritized to maintain one's cultural identity -- and not be ashamed of one's heritage. When I went back home to Bohol in 2010, I made it a point to find out more information about my mom's side. Luckily for me my Uncle Romeo had kept a picture of my Lolo Mariano -- his old immigration documents-- when he immigrated to the Philippines i 1903.

My Uncle asked me why I was so interested in the history. We shared so many conversations at night-- mostly about my grand father and my grandmother , his sharing with me of the stories how my Lolo Mariano carried the church bells to the bell tower in Valencia Parish. Stories of how he talked like, the songs he used to sing to his kids, to even how he looked like.

I remember one time when my Uncle Romeo, who was 5 years old when my great grandfather was still alive, he said to me that if Lolo Mariano was alive, he would have loved me -- for my dedication to his memory -- and to his story.

I cried when we had that conversation. I imagine what his voice would have sounded like. No doubt, if i had met him, I would have smiled at hearing his Cantonese accent. Apparently he looked like my Lola Nating. ;D

Had I met my lolo mariano, i would have hugged him, and kissed his cheeks. If he did not migrate to the Philippines, I would not exist.

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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2012, 03:07:48 PM »
My beloved grandmother: Mrs. Fortunata Tan - Salvo


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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2012, 03:11:40 PM »
A portrait of my great grand father, Tan Ngai He (Mariano Tan). He was 22 in this picture. Taken in 1903.
This was his immigration photo.



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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2012, 03:25:25 PM »
Growing up in the United States, I would ask my mom about our ancestry and our family history.

that attitude is quite proper.  we must look back because we are what we are due to our forebears.  some form of discrimination about what we are now and then is even positive; it makes us grounded.  it humbles us, which is a good thing.  it's another story if it's humiliating.  at this level, i'll fight to the death. ;D 

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2012, 03:25:49 PM »
our father told us a wee bit of overlooked history about this, though i don't know the real score.  truth must be out there somewhere in the middle...

valencia's filipino-chinese, the forebears of the current lims included, once tried to establish themselves as storeowners in dimiao, back at a time when valencia was just a barangay of dimiao (no wonder, valencia being just 10 kilometers away). 

but dimiao was rather xenophobic.  (peace, dimiaonons.  this was long ago.  my father is from dimiao; this makes me half-dimiaonon.)  according to the story, the chinese were made to feel unwelcome, even to the point of having their place stoned sureptitiously during the night.  so they bailed out and settled in the nearest big barangay to establish themselves.  this was valencia.

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Laina pod noh? I cannot imagine why they were like this -- as if they were projecting their anger to the Chinese. The native Dimiaonons were looked down upon by the Spaniards for being 'indio / natibo'. Was this their way of projecting their anger by looking down on Chinese?

It's just funny how in the colonial days, the Spaniards , the Spanish-mestisos , and the native filipinos looked down on Chinese people for being "inferior".

Now, these people are marrying rich Chinese-Filipinos. The irony and the hypocrisy. Now, the current elite are the Chinese.



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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2012, 03:32:53 PM »
according to the story, the chinese were made to feel unwelcome, even to the point of having their place stoned sureptitiously during the night.  so they bailed out and settled in the nearest big barangay to establish themselves.  this was valencia.

through the generations, valencia became more vibrant economically, purportedly because of its chinese community, while dimiao stood still in time along with its quiet comfort and, let's face it, music and culture and tradition. 

we know how a vibrant economic activity affects the whole community.  valencia produced more professionals per capita

today, it is valencia that has its own hospital that serves neighboring towns, including dimiao. 

p.s.  as i read those caratolas in valencia, i noticed too that there really was no filipino-chinese family in dimiao.  i wonder if things are still the same.  i haven't been in those two towns for a long time now (except for those occasional few minutes at the cemeteries to honor the dead).


Very interesting information, Isles. The Chinese are almost very akin to the Jews, in regards to the financial zeal, noh? I remember having a conversation with my gf's father some time ago. The conversation was about Cebu, Bacolod and Iloilo City.

He said to me that Cebu City is truly the "Queen City of the South". But he said something -- in regards to Cebu's financial strength -- the Chinese factor.

Apparently, during the 1950's, there were a lot of Chinese in Iloilo City, but the govermental policies at the time there were not -- favorable -- to them. Because of the xenophobic atmosphere there, the prominent Chinese families of Iloilo City moved to Cebu. He credits Cebu's financial and economic preeminence in the region -- to the massive Chinese community in the province and in the city.

No doubt, the Confucian work ethic that these people kept played a role in Cebu's financial growth. Even now, Cebu is only second to Manila.


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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2012, 03:45:34 PM »
unfortunately, this kind of discrimination is more universal than we care to admit.  consider the mexicans in the u.s.  that's how the chinese once were, in our country.  even if subsequent generations are beyond this, we can't help but take on the attitudes and biases and sins of our forebears.

A very good point, Isles. One can't help but link the racial comments as a lingering effect of Hispanization, where the Spanish institutionalized a race-based social structure. With the Spanish Whites , of course, being at the zenith of that social order.

Unfortunately that colonial mentality seems to have lingered ...in the Philippines.

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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2012, 03:54:18 PM »
It was apparent that the Chinese Filipinos tried hard to assimilate into the general Filipino culture.

they did.  they do.  this is their home country now.  but such assimilation is only up to a certain point.  this is understandable.  even filipinos in the u.s. assimilate smoothly, yet they celebrate what their home country celebrates, from town fiestas to philippine independence day.  there is this need to make a connection with one's past while we try to live in the present.

here's a personal experience...

years ago, i could even say decades ago, as a young girl in tagbilaran i got to befriend someone from a known local filipino-chinese family.  she's one of the most practical friends i knew.  despite their wealth, she lived simply, sans arrogance or display of material privilege.  that's why we were friends. :D 

anyway (at a time when tagbilaran still didn't have discos and parties with dancing were held in residences), as a friend, she put it to me straight... don't go jamming when it's an invitation from a chinese guy, she warned.  you may notice that there would be no chinese girl in such parties.  we chinese girls are meant for another group, exclusively ours.  when they invite filipino girls, they mean to commit "chancing" and behave less gentlemanly.  (i hope this trend had stopped.)  if we chinese are made as the butt of jokes by filipinos, we chinese also make jokes out of you, she said.  we believe that filipinos are spendthrifts, spending like millionaires even when they don't have money... (i miss this friend; i heard she had settled in the u.s.)

you see, lorenz, discrimination is mutual.   

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2012, 03:55:26 PM »
I would also like to address something, since we touched into this, the issue of colonial mentality being an issue of concern.

Have you noticed how in Filipino media, most , if not all, of the actors and actresses are white-mestiso? It is clear that the overwhelming majority of Filipinos are not white-mestiso, but are indio / natibo. Why are not the malay-looking filipinos ever in philippine cinema and media? Is colonial mentality that strong in the Philippines?

The use of skin whiteners in the Philippines is almost disgusting. Many morena looking women applying these creams -- denying their own natural skin tone and beauty.

A truly sad  effect of colonial mentality. tsk.

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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2012, 03:59:46 PM »
wa lage moentra ang tinuoray nga insik...si talahurong  Laoshi Ge Hu Bag Gan. ;D

He he, hitsura na lang nako ang Tsaynis; everything else is Bol-anon... ;D

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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2012, 04:02:29 PM »
A thousand-year-old prophetic portrait of Botoy...





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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2012, 04:05:39 PM »
they did.  they do.  this is their home country now.  but such assimilation is only up to a certain point.  this is understandable.  even filipinos in the u.s. assimilate smoothly, yet they celebrate what their home country celebrates, from town fiestas to philippine independence day.  there is this need to make a connection with one's past while we try to live in the present.

here's a personal experience...

years ago, i could even say decades ago, as a young girl in tagbilaran i got to befriend someone from a known local filipino-chinese family.  she's one of the most practical friends i knew.  despite their wealth, she lived simply, sans arrogance or display of material privilege.  that's why we were friends. :D 

anyway (at a time when tagbilaran still didn't have discos and parties with dancing were held in residences), as a friend, she put it to me straight... don't go jamming when it's an invitation from a chinese guy, she warned.  you may notice that there would be no chinese girl in such parties.  we chinese girls are meant for another group, exclusively ours.  when they invite filipino girls, they mean to commit "chancing" and behave less gentlemanly.  (i hope this trend had stopped.)  if we chinese are made as the butt of jokes by filipinos, we chinese also make jokes out of you, she said.  we believe that filipinos are spendthrifts, spending like millionaires even when they don't have money... (i miss this friend; i heard she had settled in the u.s.)

you see, lorenz, discrimination is mutual.   

That's interesting that you posted that, I never knew about that. Well I did hear about the more conservative members of Chinese families in the Philippines where they do try to stick to their own. I know that more of the afluent segments of the Chinese families in the Philippines usually encourage their children to marry Chinese as well. I know this because my great grand father preferred my grandmother  to marry a Chinese, but my Lola fell in love with my Lolo Ciano (who is a pure blooded pinoy from baranggay Anas, Valencia). So by doing this she went against norms.

Your friend has a point tho, Isles. In her defense, her comment reflected her upbringing. It stems back to their Confucian culture in valuing the importance of hard work and saving. I tend to be like that. I try to be very Chinese in regards to my finances. Part of the Confucian cultural upbringing stresses the importance of saving at least 50 % of one's earnings. I'm sure your friend did not mean to insult in any way, but perhaps tried to explain her upbringing.

Yes, I agree with you, that discrimination is an unfortunate effect of misunderstanding.

PS. Have you not tried contacting your friend?

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2012, 04:06:10 PM »
huwaton nato; pilay pad ug maka-entrada human sa iyang pagluto ug siopao.  basin makadungog tag balikas nga ininsik, sama sa piao singit. ;D

Sayop. Ingon ani ang saktong balikas: Singit ailangdir baho piangao... ;D

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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2012, 04:06:52 PM »
A thousand-year-old prophetic portrait of Botoy...





 ;D

he he he, do you get the occasional belly rub for good luck? ;D

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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2012, 04:09:40 PM »
but dimiao was rather xenophobic.  (peace, dimiaonons.  this was long ago.  my father is from dimiao; this makes me half-dimiaonon.)

Nangangkon baya. Pyur Tsaynis ka nga nadagsa sa Balingsya, oi, ip trut bi told... ;D


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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2012, 04:16:29 PM »
Isles, pure Bol-anon gayod ka. Was not your Mama from Valencia ?

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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2012, 04:41:29 PM »
PS. Have you not tried contacting your friend?

there's no way that i can without contacting her relations, which may put them on the defensive, heaven forbid.  (am i up to something?  some business venture that might need their capital?  hehe, i'm too filipino with enough pride to save myself from such suspicions.  we were friends because we knew how to treat each other's differences and we both exercised mutual trust.  i don't want to dispel that.)

so i wish to meet her again one day only by some coincidence and not by my active moves to seek her out.  that would be good enough for me. 

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