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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2007, 02:15:18 AM »
Remember guys... there's always a woman in every man's failure? or downfall?... amen. zipped


he is one hellovaguy!!!

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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2007, 02:32:40 AM »
He was not spendable enough...........I had earned as a Secretary starting the casual daily basis 6.00 Pesos per day. Had only one pair of shoes and it was good for the whole year or more.....in her favour.

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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2007, 02:40:22 AM »


Marcos downfall could not only be pinpointed to a woman...but to the greediness of his circle of friends...what you call cronies... they took advances of his goodness...

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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2007, 03:01:30 AM »
Okey xa! Sangay me! hehehehe...

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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2007, 05:44:57 PM »

Marcos downfall could not only be pinpointed to a woman...but to the greediness of his circle of friends...what you call cronies... they took advances of his goodness...

Absolutely true. President Ferdinand Marcos, was a man who brought advances to Bohol--not counting the roadside projects, irrigation systems, and electricity that spearheaded development of our island. Marcos was a man of the people, a brilliant man who earned his Juris Doctorate while in prison, kaya mo na, and his predecessor, then President Jose P. Laurel said this about Marcos, "He will be the future of the Republic and will become president in the future". Evidently it was so.

The Marcos that I admire is not his negative qualities, for he, as a man, had many good qualities aside from his bad ones. People may say whatever they want of President Marcos, but they cannot deny that he was a man of strategy, a man of strong political will, a man who indirectly contributed to the awakening of the sleeping Filipino Nationalism and democratic fervor.

He was a man who not only fought off the NPA, the MILF, MNLF as well as external forces that were challenging the authority of the Republic of the Philippines--and effectively destroyed the political armies of the pre-Martial law years, a man who stamped out the major threat of the communist threat as a mere 'pest', and a man who crushed the pro-separatist MNLF/MILF with his affirmative military campaign in the south--to preserve and retain the authority and unity of the Philippine Republic.

Marcos transcends political science---as he was a man who mastered its theories and postulates, he IS a man who is studied by students around the world---and regarded by academians and law makers as a 'perfect politician'.



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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2007, 08:12:36 PM »
The late Pres. Marcos was a brillant President, proclaiming Martial Law made our Philippines famous throughout the whole World and known him  a "dictator"...but his First Lady was more wiser.  Ex-President Marcos was also under his wife dictatorship. I think, he was 99% more better than his followers.

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« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2007, 01:39:35 PM »


As 1983 drew to a close, the regime of president of Ferdinand Marcos was facing the major test of its rule. Demonstrations of opposition were an almost daily occurrence; the economy was in its worse crisis since the regime came to power in 1965; and Marcos was rarely seen outside the Presidential palance. The immediate catalyst was the assassination of Benigno S. Aquino, but earlier events revealed the vulnerability of the Marcos government. The continuation of authoritarianism, cronyism, and the renewal of the bases agreement with the United States provided focal points for the opposition’s criticism. The Philippine economy continued the poor performance of 1982 and led to the governments increased dependence on foreign financial institutions. Persistent reports of Marcos’ ill health heightened the uncertainty surrounding the future of the regime.

In spite of the lifting of martial law, Marcos initiated measures to consolidate and maintain the powers attained during that period and 1983 witnessed a continuation of Marcos’ exercise of authoritarian powers. In the first six months of the year, the regime continued the crackdown begun in 1982 on social activists, political organizers, and newsmen. Among those detained were A. Pimentel, A Nieva etc. Such arrests are frequently exercised under a Presidential commitment Order (PCO); in April the Philippine supreme court had reaffirmed the absolute arrest, detention and release powers of President Marcos by declaring that PCO’s issued against people suspected of crimes related to national security are valid and legal and therefore require no judicial review. As it was by then, considered a right of the Chief Executive.

With regards to cronyism, in spite of the feelings of some observers that Marcos was shifting away form ‘crony capitalism’, three presidential orders gave economic advantages to businessmen close to the president. In January, Marcos signed a presidential decree ordering the lowering of the import duties on acetate tow, which directly benefited H. Disini’s Philippine Tobacco Filters Corp, the country’s largest producer of cigarette filters. Marcos also extended the validity of a letter of instruction permitting Roberto Benedicto’s Banahaw Broadcasting to continue to import knocked-down parts for the assembly of television sets. Marcos, also signed a presidential decree that expands Eduardo Cjuangco’s control over the coconut industry further into cocochemical production and gave his companies monopoly on the import of petrochemical products. In each instance, the decrees not only provided economic benefits to Marcos’ cronies, but also bypassed the legislative process, cabinet decision, the Executive committee preparatory analysis.

Not to mention that Marcos was pressing the reaffirmation of US bases in the Philippines.
However, the Filipino Anti-Bases Coalition, formed in February of that year, argued that the American bases in the Philippines represent imperialism, threaten national security and have led to a brothel economy of adjacent towns. Additionally, issues of human rights, especially arbitrary detention and military abuse of civilian, produced other criticisms of the government of Marcos.

The single factor, in my opinion, that doomed the Marcos administration was the Aquino Assasination. Either Marcos was involved or not involved, politically speaking, it illustrated that Marcos was no longer in control. Marcos’ virtual confinement to Malacanang palace prompted rumors that he was seriously ill. More concrete symbols of lessened control are reversals in policy toward the opposition.


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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2007, 09:32:59 AM »
OK. We all know who he was and what he did for the Philippines/ and or to the Philippines. However whenever I talk to my pinoy friends and their parents they have very different conflicting views of Pres. Marcos. I know my family--specially my dad's side of the family who hail him as one of the greatest presidents of the Republic--and there is my mom's side who like him because of his electricity program to Bohol--and his Machismo-esque ordered society. Then there are other Filipinos like my friends' parents who hail from other parts of the Philippines and have very negative views of Marcos. They point out his corrupt flaws and  his anti-democratic ideologies--and talk of him being an embodiment of a cruel/ruthless dictator similar to those of the likes of Fidel Castro, Sadaam Hussein, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Sukarto and Sukarno.

What are your views on this man?? Any personal experiences at all?



Lorenzo,

This is your premise; "We all know who he was and what he did for the Philippines/ and or to the Philippines." This has something to do with politics and this is abstract and debatable. I'll give you something that is tangible and definite and everybody knows that it's there and it is still working for the Filino people until now. Here are the following Marcos accomplishment during his presidency;


a) To attract investments, he established, under PD 66, the Export Processing Authority and enacted Investment Incentives Act under PD 485.

b) He established the Department of Energy and its subsidiaries and affiliates to address the sourcing, supplying and distribution of oil requirements.

c) To develop and promote agricultural products, he created the National Irrigation Administration under PD 552.

d) Since coconut is a major export product, he established the Philippine Coconut Authroity under PD 232 to address the problems of the coconut industry.

e) as an alternative source of revenues, he planted the seeds for local and foreign tourists by establishing the Philippine Tourism Authority under PD 564.

f) As an alternative source of revenues, he established Pagcor to operate gambling under PD 1869.

g) To upgrade the banking system and invite foreign banks to do business in the Philippines under certain incentives and guarantees, FM caused the establishment of Offshore-Banking System in the Philippines under PD 1034.

h) To legalize the Filipino trait of gambling through horse racing or cockfighting, he caused the establishment of the Philippine Racing Commission under PD 420 and the Cockfighting Law under PD 1140 to govern and regulate the same.

i) to ensure that the deposits of small depositors will not be deprived of their deposits by bank runs or closure of banks, he caused the establishment of the Philippine Deposit Insurance Corp. (PDIC) under PD 1094 insuring the liabilities of the banks/

j) The Philippine Retirement Authority under E.O. 1037, series of 1985.

k) The Movie and Television Review and Classification Board under PD 1986.

(l) Philippine Estates Authority under PD 1084.

Marcos all together of course with the aid of experts in law in his government issued 7,800 presidential decrees, letters of intruction, Letters of Implementation,  General Orders, executive orders, proclamations and some more. Of all of these only one/tenth is being repealed or abolished and all the rest is functioning smoothly in our government today. If Marcos had not done something for the good of the people everything he established in government should have been abolished. Shakepeare once said; "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones."

WN


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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2007, 02:35:44 PM »
 sometimes politics are bias, even if we've know that we are in the wrong direction but we close our eyes and we wrap our ears, why? Dali makasira SA atong partido. One of the reason ngano gipamatay ang MAG comentarista SA MAG radio Dali mostly SA Kamila MAG one sided or diehard or Dali banyan SA partido. 

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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2007, 11:40:04 AM »

John,

Politics is an art... so they say. But it is normal for people who are engaged in politics to be bias in their individual political principle. In reality, politics is a war of political principles. It is this art in politics that is what we call as an alternative to a civil war. In the absence of politics a civil war will takeover. Boot pasabot nga ang pulitika gubat lang sa laway ug prinsipyo, dili pinusilay.

The U.S. government is my prime example. The government is divided into 3 branches. Kining tulo ka sanga sa gobierno naay ilang lain-laing kaugalingong gahum sa pang-gobierno. Example... during the presidential election of Al Gore of the U.S. Democratic party versus George W. Bush Jr. of the Republican party, there was these hotly contested 13 counties in Florida.

This is the explanation;

Si Al Gore kung sumahon hingdaug na sa popular vote pero kinahanglan nga makakuha pa siya ug mga boto nga electoral para modaug siya. Nag protesta si Al Gore sa 13 counties for a recount kay nakita nga naay discripancies sa counting sa 13 counties. Kung mag-ihap ug usob dako ang puruhan ni Al Gore nga modaug siya. Pero nagpataliwa ang Supreme Court... Miingon ang Supreme Court sa Amerika nga kung iphon pa ang mga boto sa 13 counties sa Florida molapas na sa petsa 2 sa Enero ang pag-ihap ug mosupak na sa gitagana sa gisulat sa batakang balaod nga kinahanglan maproklama ang presidente sa Amerika sa petsa 2 sa Enero.

Boot pasabot ini nga si Al Gore untay modaug kung hingsugit pa ang Korte Suprema nga mag-ihap ug usob. Mangutana usa ta... Is the U.S. Supreme Court bias in their decision not to recount the votes in the 13 counties of Florida? The answer is, no! The Supreme Court just followed what is mandated by law. Mao ni giingon nga 'technicality of law' mao nga napildi si Al Gore. Those bias political followers of the Democratic party... did they accept the decision of the Supreme Court. Yes of course because it is inherent in the American people in their respect of the rule of law. Wa sila magpinusilay. Ang militar wa pud mag apil-apil sa pulitka.

Karon John atong balikan tong imo pang giingon. Ang sulti nimo mao ni; "Even if we've know that we are in the wrong direction but we close our eyes and we wrap our ears, why?" Tinood ning imong gisulti. Kini hitabo ni sa Pilipinas. Because in the Philippines we are not yet politically matured people. Pananglitan kana si Ex-CJ Hilario Davide Jr.. Kini siya schooled in one of the most prominent schools in the Philippines, sa U.P.. But even how learned you are, once partisan politics will invade your inner senses you will become a stupid person. Matud pa sa akong ig-agaw nga kun angat na ang pulitika daghang mangabuang sa Bohol o sa Pilipinas ba hinoon. Mao ni nahitabo ni Davide tungod kay nahimong 'bias' ang iyang panghuna-huna batok ni Erap sa paghusga niya nga si GMA kuno ang presidente sa Pilipinas. Hing-apil pa siya ug demonstrate sa EDSA II. Iya karong gihimo 'leftist' ang korte suprema sa Pilipinas. Ang mga 'leftist' bisan ug mga leftist sa tibook kalibutan 'bias' ang ilang mga panghuna-huna. Si Davide... ang nahitabo nga labaw pa siya sa balaod.

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Re: What is your opinion on Pres. Ferdinand Marcos??
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2007, 12:02:14 PM »
Nada, tinuod gyud na...

sus ug mo sumpay pa ko taas na...

i will leave the floor to you Way Nada....

very informative...

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