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Dr. José Protacio Rizal, M.D.
« on: August 07, 2008, 10:50:08 am »
My personal Hero,



The philosopher,
The Historian,
The Humanitarian,
The Writer-Novelist,
The Physician-Surgeon,
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 10:56:31 am »
Jose Protacio Rizal Mercado Y Alonzo Realonda, was a Filipino polymath, nationalist and the most prominent advocate for reforms in the Philippines during the Spanish colonial era and its eventual independence from Spain.

The seventh of eleven children born to a middle class family in the town of Calamba, Laguna, Rizal attended the Ateneo Municipal de Manila and then traveled alone to Madrid, Spain where he studied medicine at the Universidad Central de Madrid, earning the degree of Licentiate in Medicine. He earned a second doctorate at the University of Paris and the University of Heidelberg. Rizal was a polyglot conversant in at least ten languages. He was a prolific poet, essayist, diarist, correspondent, and novelist whose most famous works were his two novels, Noli me Tangere and El Filibusterismo. These are social commentaries on the Philippines that formed the nucleus of literature that inspired dissent among peaceful reformists and spurred the militancy of armed revolutionaries against 333 years of Spanish rule.

Education

Rizal had his early education in Calamba and Biñan. It was a typical schooling that a son of an ilustrado family received during his time, characterized by the four R’s- reading, writing, arithmetic, and religion. Instruction was rigid and strict. Knowledge was forced into the minds of the pupils by means of the tedious memory method aided by the teacher’s whip. Despite the defects of the Spanish system of elementary education, Rizal was able to acquire the necessary instruction preparatory for college work in Manila. It may be said that Rizal, who was born a physical weakling, rose to become an intellectual giant not because of, but rather in spite of, the outmoded and backward system of instruction obtaining in the Philippines during the last decades of Spanish regime.

Rizal first formal study was under Justiniano Aquino Cruz in Biñan, Laguna. He was sent to Manila to study, and upon enrolling at the Ateneo Municipal, changed his name to "Rizal" to escape the opprobrium of the name "Mercado". His brother Paciano had been linked to the Filipino priests Mariano Gomez, Jose Burgos, and Jacinto Zamora who had been tried as subversives and sentenced to death by garrote. He received his Bachelor of Arts in 1877 and graduated as one of the nine students declared sobresaliente or outstanding. He continued his education at the Ateneo Municipal to obtain a land surveyor and assessor's degree, and at the same time at the University of Santo Tomas where he studied Philosophy and Letters. Upon learning that his mother was going blind, he decided to study medicine specializing in ophthalmology at the University of Santo Tomas but did not complete it because he felt that Filipinos were being discriminated by the Dominicans who were operating the school.

Without his parents' knowledge and consent, but secretly supported by his brother Paciano, he traveled alone to Madrid in May 1882 and studied medicine at the Universidad Central de Madrid where he earned the degree, Licentiate in Medicine. His education continued at the University of Paris and the University of Heidelberg where he earned a second doctorate. In Berlin, he was inducted as a member of the Berlin Ethnological Society and the Berlin Anthropological Society under the patronage of the famous pathologist Rudolf Virchow. Following custom, he delivered an address in German in April 1887 before the anthropological society on the orthography and structure of the Tagalog language. He left Heidelberg a poem, "A las flores del Heidelberg," which was both an evocation and a prayer for the welfare of his native land and the unification of common values between East and West..

Rizal's multifacetedness was described by his German friend, Dr. Adolf Meyer, as "stupendous." Documented studies show him to be a polymath with an uncommon ability to master various skills and subjects. He was an ophthalmologist, sculptor, painter, educator, farmer, historian, inventor, playwright and journalist. Besides poetry and creative writing, he dabbled, with varying degrees of expertise, in architecture, cartography, economics, ethnology, anthropology, sociology, dramatics, martial arts, fencing and pistol shooting.



His Excellence and Intelligence preceded him in life. Even unto death. His Name, Trials, Tribulations and Sacrifices continues to be the inspiration for not only Filipinos, but to all men and women around the world seeking universal equality, confraternity, legality.


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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 10:59:49 am »
I saw the movie last night Enzo (Jose Rizal starring our very own Boboy),wala pa nahuman kay naay error ang pinoy channel,but naka 14th episode na ko (out of 16).I imagined last night nga ako si Josephine. ;D


"Once I thought that the only important in life was education.But I relized that it really
 depends on what kind of education.One kind can blind us,but now I can see clearly...

- Education alone is not enough to make you see roses.

                                               Dr. Jose Rizal Mercado y' Alonzo

Amazing that when they make a toast for Juan Luna and Hidalgo's success,I felt your
presence Enzo.And I don't know I saw you in Del Pilar's image. Maghimo na ko ug sugod
ug fan's club nimo Enzo.

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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 11:01:31 am »
Sus gi execute man diay na sha no?

That was brutal oi!

Taym pa balik ra sa History, kinsay nagpa execute nija aber???

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 11:04:08 am »

Dr. Rizal in his youthful adolescence.


Dr. Rizal's portrait taken when he was still a Medical Student in Madrid, Spain.


The three leading figures of the Filipino nationalist movement in Europe in the late nineteenth century: Jose Rizal, Marcelo H. del Pilar, and Mariano Ponce. The trio was the moving force behind a movement called "La Solidaridad."

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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 11:06:10 am »



The three leading figures of the Filipino nationalist movement in Europe in the late nineteenth century: Jose Rizal, Marcelo H. del Pilar, and Mariano Ponce. The trio was the moving force behind a movement called "La Solidaridad."

Mao ni akong giingon Enzo nga mura ka ug si M. del Pilar.

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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 11:06:16 am »
hala naa si Dodong Insoy sa tunga! hahahha

Taym pa ba: kinsay nagpa execute ni Rizal?

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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2008, 11:09:35 am »
Hahaha wala pa man ta napansin ni Enzo,na busy pa ug panguha ug images.Dear kung gusto ka mutan aw sa story ni Rizal naa sa pinoychannel.com try lang basin makasulod ka.Then search Jose Rizal.

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 11:12:53 am »
Sus gi execute man diay na sha no?

That was brutal oi!

Taym pa balik ra sa History, kinsay nagpa execute nija aber???

Dr. Jose Rizal was found guilty of treason and seditious action against the Spanish Colonial Government.

Dr. Rizal, in his own faith in the need to address change in the Philippines, was warned by his Spanish friends and contemporaries in Spain. They told him not to return to the Philippines after the publication of his famous works entitled, Noli Mi Tangere and El Filibusterismo. Forwarned as he was to the dangers of returning to the Philippines; he still returned.

He, by that act, already accepted his fate. Dr. Rizal, cherished the fate of the Philippines above his own life. Above his own name, above his own popularity.

The Spanish colonial government in the Philippines was, indeed, corrupt. And it ruled the Philippines against the policies and Laws that Spain, the Motherland, dictated to its overseas governments.

The plight of the Filipino was voiced in Madrid by men such as Dr. Rizal, Don. Sr. Del Pilar. The Spanish Cortes passed laws for change, but the colonial government in Manila was slow to act; or was indisposed due to the rampant corruption in its midst.

Rizal's death sparked the Philippine Revolution. His death was not only atrocious to Filipinos at the time, but news of his execution was heard in Europe; France, Germany, Spain, England, Italy. Many of his contemporaries wrote journals in response to his death. He was indeed a force to be reckoned with.

This man was a Great Man.

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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 11:15:50 am »
Who ruled the Spanish colonial Government in our country?

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 11:24:31 am »
Who ruled the Spanish colonial Government in our country?

It was a multi-faceted mechanism, 'te. The bureaucracy was primarily composed of Filipinos (Peninsulare, Mestizo, and Indio). Peninsulare Spaniards such took the position of Gobernador General--he had a command staff; but most of the bureaucrats of the Government, were, surprisingly, Filipino.

Filipino Principales (Aristocracy) controlled the regional authority within the Colonial Government. Filipinos were chosen and elected into positions such as Gobernadorcillo (provincial governors), Cabeza de Municipalidad, Cabeza de Cuidad, Cabeza de Barrio.

Filipinos also swelled the ranks of the Guardia Civil (the provincial constabulary); many of whom swelled the ranks of the troops but also the officer ranks.

It makes me sick to my stomach to know that many of those who wanted Dr. Rizal dead were Filipino Principales(Aristocrats) of Manila, Visayas and Mindanao as well as hardcore Spanish Imperialists.



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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 11:27:47 am »
what does the Friars or the Jesuits have something to do with his death? Murag naa silay kalabutan aning tanan.

I already forgot all these, Pastilan...

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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 11:32:47 am »
Doc Lorenzo, Dr. Josh, is not a Christian he a Mason. Catholic Religion is brought by Spanish Conquistadores, so no way he follow the the Religion were used as opium to subdue the the Indios.

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 11:40:08 am »
No, the friars had nothing to do with his death. Rizal spent countless years in Dapitan secured in a military prison by order of the Colonial Government and under the pretense that he was guilty of sedition, militancy, and treason. Some of the things they accused him was preposterous. One charge they placed on him was the treason against the Name of the King of Spain.

Preposterous, since Dr. Rizal was in Spain and made friends within the Spanish Royal Cortes as well as voiced his opinions and that of his Filipino compatriots through La Solidaridad and Liga Filipina.

Rizal, never once disrespected Spain. The man lived there for a considerable portion of his life, spoke the language and was educated in Spain. He referred to it, in his journals, as 'Madre Espana' and wrote cultural remarks on the beauty of the country--in reference to Filipino-Hispanidad relations.

The name of Rizal was tarnished by Filipino Peninsulares who feared that he stood for militant revolution; fearing that their own personal niche within the Colonial government was at stake--and pointed the blame on Rizal. Many Filipinos who worked within the system feared this change. Feared what Rizal stood for; what is ironic is that Rizal never once demanded a revolution or complete severance from Spain. On the contrary, Dr. Rizal voiced out the need to change; socially and economically. He championed the universality of human rights and voiced out the need for Spain to secure the God-given right of human confraternity, equality and egalitarianism. His words were Victorian-esque and illustrated his Enlightenment Concepts that bears witness to his education in Europe.



As for the friars and the church; the only thing the church was guilty of was its abuse of land-ownership and influence in regional politics. There was a union, in those days, between the Filipino Peninsulare class with Church officials.

Friars and monks had nothing to do with the death of Rizal. One major grievance that Dr. Rizal pointed out in his writings in La Solidaridad was the fact that the Roman Catholic Church, particularly the Friars still ruled over the lands and controlled political policies in the islands. We saw this in his addressing of the execution of Fathers Burgos, Gomez and Zamora by the Spanish Colonial Government.
 

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 11:41:21 am »
Doc Lorenzo, Dr. Josh, is not a Christian he a Mason. Catholic Religion is brought by Spanish Conquistadores, so no way he follow the the Religion were used as opium to subdue the the Indios.

I apologize for that discrepency, Mr. Raldampong. You are right though, he was raised and brought up Roman Catholic, but he eventually joined the Freemasons when he was in Europe.

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2008, 11:51:44 am »


Josephine Bracken, Rizal's wife and widow.



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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2008, 11:53:35 am »
I apologize for that discrepency, Mr. Raldampong. You are right though, he was raised and brought up Roman Catholic, but he eventually joined the Freemasons when he was in Europe.

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Welcome Doc, nice thread you started here.

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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2008, 11:58:17 am »
Mr. Raldampong,

Please, sir, I am no doctor. Please call me Bran na lang. :)

Am glad to discuss with you in this thread, Sir.

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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2008, 12:01:27 pm »


Josephine Bracken, Rizal's wife and widow.



I can't remember Dr. Josh got married, but is she the one got pregnant during their stayed in Dapitan but it was aborted by accident?. When she accompanied her blind step father from Hongkong for eye surgery in Dapitan during his exile.

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2008, 12:11:16 pm »
Mr. Raldampong,

Please, sir, I am no doctor. Please call me Bran na lang. :)

Am glad to discuss with you in this thread, Sir.

I'm just returning the compliment, you address me Mr so I call Dr. But most of my American Dentist and Medical coworkers in KFSH & RC in Saudi preferred to be called by their name.

if Bran, pleases you from now on I call you Bran. Your very humble person.

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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2008, 12:21:54 pm »
Enzo,

You may be interested. My uncle jes wrote in his book titled, "From Spanish Yoke to American Harness," about Rizal's (unknown) visit to Bohol while he was in exile in Dapitan. This was probable since his brother-in-law was exiled here in Sitio Ubos (now Poblacion 1 of Tagbilaran.

I'll look for a copy for you.



 

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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 12:43:02 pm »
It was his friend Blumentritt who pursued him to go back to Europe, but he preferred to be an exile in Dapitan. He did community service to people most them are Boholanos descent. Because Dapitan is partly a Bo-ol Kingdom dominion with Thalassacracy form of Government( By Dr. Jess Tirol).

He befriended many Boholanos in fact at one time he travel and visit Bohol.

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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2008, 12:51:24 pm »
i read the book and sir jes is a friend, in fact, we had long time debating about certain topics like but Rizal's visit to Bohol (as he insisted based sa mga tigulang iyang nainterview)... until now, am not convinced!!! Yes, am not convinced jud...there're no records as he admitted in the book. mga circumstancial evidences lang...

that time daghang nagparizal rizal adto...

matod pa sa book, ang subjects nga giinterview mga old na so dii na mamakak... most of them were not "elite" so definitely, dali lang mailad kung naay magparizal rizal adtong panahuna kay wala man siya kaila ni rizal personally.

of course, naay taga bohol nga ming=adto sa zamboanga nagpatambal ni rizal.... recorded na siya.

but rizal didn;t mention in his diary and letters that he visited bohol. bohol is a wonderful place, syaro dili kagama si rizal og mga poems dedicated to bohol... kara visit niya naa jud na siyay poems about the place and people. first time gud niya mingtravel so maamazed jud siya sa bohol.

wayback in 2001 when i visited a place in sierra bullones, i met an old man who's a rizalian. he showed to me iyang mga collection ni dr. rizal, jacket, cap, etc..of rizal and pictures ni rizal when he was young. the man was sane... later, i'd learned nga rizalian siya mao daghan diay siya pics of rizal...

that old man noy datahan convinced me nga iyang gikugos kugos si rizal sa gamay pa..and he went to dapitan kay follower siya ni rizal...

naluoy lang ko ni noy datahan kay hunahuna iya kadtong iyang gikugos niya si rizal kuno... ug iyang nahinabi si rizal pud mao gitagaan siya sa jacket daw ug kalo.... wala man gud siya kahibaw. in short, mailad intawon.

mao to kadtong nainterview sa book, i believe the same situation lang ni noy datahan.

you know what i can write about rizal nga natog sa among balay... LOL!

P.S. i like andres bonifacio.

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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2008, 12:55:14 pm »
granting nga si rizal ming-anhi sa bohol,,, sa book nanambal siya sa taloto district, didto siya gisugat kay didto man ang bangka mingdunggo.. so minglabay siya sa amua kay agianan ra baya ang booy sa taloto.

matod pa sa mga katiguwangan, mingkaon pa siya og koja sa caingget beach (kay sakop man sa booy ang caingget)... sikat na daan ang place sa koja, so rizal wala karesist sa kalami sa koja. wonder why? sa iyang mga poem? nakamention siya og seashell....nalimot lang sa name.

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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2008, 12:55:51 pm »
Freemasonry, for your information, is not a RELIGION. It is a fraternity, a brotherhood of men, who believe and serve God (no matter what denomination or affiliation one has!) and his people. The center of their principles is based on the bible.

It just happened that the Freemasons during the Spanish times were also revolutionaries who are against the Spanish Government, which was basically ruled by the Spanish Friars.

Freemasonry is NOT AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. They were against the oppression done by the Friars to the Filipino people.

I should know. I belong to a Masonic Family. 

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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2008, 12:59:22 pm »
the leader kay natugkan og sungay..... mao sagaran members kay rich!!!

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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2008, 01:03:11 pm »
i read the book and sir jes is a friend, in fact, we had long time debating about certain topics like but Rizal's visit to Bohol (as he insisted based sa mga tigulang iyang nainterview)... until now, am not convinced!!! Yes, am not convinced jud...there're no records as he admitted in the book. mga circumstancial evidences lang...

that time daghang nagparizal rizal adto...

matod pa sa book, ang subjects nga giinterview mga old na so dii na mamakak... most of them were not "elite" so definitely, dali lang mailad kung naay magparizal rizal adtong panahuna kay wala man siya kaila ni rizal personally.

of course, naay taga bohol nga ming=adto sa zamboanga nagpatambal ni rizal.... recorded na siya.

but rizal didn;t mention in his diary and letters that he visited bohol. bohol is a wonderful place, syaro dili kagama si rizal og mga poems dedicated to bohol... kara visit niya naa jud na siyay poems about the place and people. first time gud niya mingtravel so maamazed jud siya sa bohol.

wayback in 2001 when i visited a place in sierra bullones, i met an old man who's a rizalian. he showed to me iyang mga collection ni dr. rizal, jacket, cap, etc..of rizal and pictures ni rizal when he was young. the man was sane... later, i'd learned nga rizalian siya mao daghan diay siya pics of rizal...

that old man noy datahan convinced me nga iyang gikugos kugos si rizal sa gamay pa..and he went to dapitan kay follower siya ni rizal...

naluoy lang ko ni noy datahan kay hunahuna iya kadtong iyang gikugos niya si rizal kuno... ug iyang nahinabi si rizal pud mao gitagaan siya sa jacket daw ug kalo.... wala man gud siya kahibaw. in short, mailad intawon.

mao to kadtong nainterview sa book, i believe the same situation lang ni noy datahan.

you know what i can write about rizal nga natog sa among balay... LOL!

P.S. i like andres bonifacio.

Pero Leo, motuo ka ug dili nagtukod kog association sa Manila. Katilingbang Bisaya kasagarang membro naho mga taga Mindanao. 2/3 nila mga Boholano ang ilang Lolo o Lola sa tuhod. I'm wondering why,but anlyzing and reading Dr. Jess Tirol's article morag naay kamatuoran.

Of course its subject to debates, labina kon way evidence.

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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2008, 01:07:12 pm »
hahaha mao jud.... mingkaon lagi siya koja sa caingget <LOL

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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2008, 01:17:30 pm »
Freemasonry, for your information, is not a RELIGION. It is a fraternity, a brotherhood of men, who believe and serve God (no matter what denomination or affiliation one has!) and his people. The center of their principles is based on the bible.

It just happened that the Freemasons during the Spanish times were also revolutionaries who are against the Spanish Government, which was basically ruled by the Spanish Friars.

Freemasonry is NOT AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. They were against the oppression done by the Friars to the Filipino people.

I should know. I belong to a Masonic Family. 
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Melrose, kaingon Assebly of God ang mga Tirol kay at one ni attend kog prayer meeting didto sa Balay ni Judge Bernaldez sa Tirol Compound ug naka attend pod ko ilang service sa UB Gym sa new Engineering Bldg.

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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2008, 01:24:13 pm »
Leo, nailad na sab kay ang orig nga Anoy Datahan patay na long time ago. He father almost 100 children ang mga inahan sa ijang mga anak, ija ra sang kaugalingon anak nga mga babaye.

Seguro kadtong imong nakasulti naa toy genetic disorder kay apo na to ni Anoy Datahan.

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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2008, 01:27:37 pm »
hahaha mao jud.... mingkaon lagi siya koja sa caingget <LOL

Ako maligo ko sa Caingit mokaon man pod ko ug kuja, saw-saw sa tam-is nga tuba nga bag-ong dawat.

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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2008, 01:33:51 pm »
Doc Lorenzo, Dr. Josh, is not a Christian he a Mason. Catholic Religion is brought by Spanish Conquistadores, so no way he follow the the Religion were used as opium to subdue the the Indios.


that is true Rald, Dr Josh was a Mason that was why the fars was angry at him... kinda...

sus mobalik na sad ko ani basa sa El Filibusterismo!

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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2008, 01:34:01 pm »
FREEMASONS like Rizal fought against the Friars. That's why Rizal was branded ANTI-CHRIST during his time (even up to these days). Freemasons in Bohol were not accepted by the Catholic Church that's why they built their own cemetery. Although, this has changed overtime.

An "exclusivist" evangelical christian group has been publishing booklets against Freemasonry and Rizal branding them as evil, satanic, anti-christ.

Such finger-pointing is an illogical, unreasonable, childish, unchristian act. They point their fingers at something they don't really know about and don't really understand.

One cannot be a freemason if one does not believe in God and the bible. So, who's evil, eh? 

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Re: Dr. José Protacio Rizal
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2008, 01:37:07 pm »
Mel ang akong nahibaw-an kay they have God, but the father...

Sa panahon ni Rizal man gud kay ang Pinas was in the midst of transistion with the transformation sa pagka Katoliko...

ang i remembered nga ang mga friars were the ones who deceived our people about the rules and law,

unya kay si Rizal di man nila ma chacha kay bright man...

mao to...

sumpay Rose, kay murag hanas kaajo ka ana! gi taya taya na ko diri dear!

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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2008, 01:39:35 pm »
the leader kay natugkan og sungay..... mao sagaran members kay rich!!!

Bitaw, I know some of them using it to gain high position in the Government or in the Military. Ka Lodge si ano, Ka brod si ganyan. Di ba parang corruption na ni.

Morag na lihis na ilang purpose kay sa guisugdan ni Dr. Josh

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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2008, 01:40:32 pm »
Freemasonry, for your information, is not a RELIGION. It is a fraternity, a brotherhood of men, who believe and serve God (no matter what denomination or affiliation one has!) and his people. The center of their principles is based on the bible.

It just happened that the Freemasons during the Spanish times were also revolutionaries who are against the Spanish Government, which was basically ruled by the Spanish Friars.

Freemasonry is NOT AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. They were against the oppression done by the Friars to the Filipino people.

I should know. I belong to a Masonic Family. 



This was very well said Vids! this is what i want to read...

that was why i was asking Insoy who were responsible sa execution ni Dr Josh, kay it has something to do with the friars...

(social studies mo diha???)

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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2008, 01:41:59 pm »
Rald, dili religious group nor a religion ang Masonry. It's an organization composed of men (lalaki). Naay Mason nga Katoliko, naay "protestante" basta naa kay ginoo sa imong kinabuhi. 

The Tirols are bible-believing Christians. I don't call myself protestant. Kay ngano, kinsa akong gi-portestahan?

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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2008, 01:48:53 pm »
nope, am wrong... he;s anoy DAHAN, not datahan. taga matin-aw, sierra bullones, bohol. i know mariano "anoy" datahan....

Leo, nailad na sab kay ang orig nga Anoy Datahan patay na long time ago. He father almost 100 children ang mga inahan sa ijang mga anak, ija ra sang kaugalingon anak nga mga babaye.

Seguro kadtong imong nakasulti naa toy genetic disorder kay apo na to ni Anoy Datahan.

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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2008, 01:52:33 pm »
Inside the Masons
The fraternal order has long been the target of conspiracy theories and hoaxes. Here's the real story
By Jay Tolson
Posted 8/28/05
The 1820s looked as though they would be the best of times for the special relationship between the fraternal order of Freemasonry and the young American nation. It wasn't just because so many prominent members of the founding generation--George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and indeed 13 of the 39 signers of the Constitution--had been members. It was also because the rapidly growing republic and the fraternal society still held so many ideals in common. American republican values looked like Masonic values writ large: honorable civic-mindedness, a high regard for learning and progress, and what might be called a broad and tolerant religiosity. Indeed, says Steven Bullock, a historian at Worcester Polytechnic Institute and a leading scholar of the Masonic fraternity in America, Freemasons "helped to give the new nation a symbolic core."

Not for nothing were the compass, square, and other emblems associated with Freemasonry emblazoned everywhere, even on jewelry, furniture, and table settings belonging to Masons and many non-Masons as well. Nor was it insignificant that a goodly number of Americans thought--erroneously but justifiably--that the Great Seal of the United States itself contained Masonic symbols. It was both a tribute and a liability to the brotherhood that people saw the influence of Freemasonry even where it didn't exist.

Since the Revolution, Freemasons had become the semiofficial celebrants of American civic culture. Wearing their distinctive aprons and wielding the trowels of their craft--the original Masons were in fact stonemasons--they routinely laid the cornerstones of important government buildings and churches and participated prominently in parades and other public ceremonies. When the aging Lafayette made his return tour of the United States in 1824-25, members of the "craft" (as Masonry is called) conspicuously greeted their fellow Mason, often inviting him to stay at the local lodge. That tour further boosted Masonic membership, which had grown from 16,000 in 1800 to about 80,000 in 1822, or roughly 5 percent of America's eligible male population.

How, then, did what looked like the best of times for Freemasonry so quickly become the worst of times? Part of the answer can be found in the public's divided reaction to Lafayette's tour, suggests historian Mark Tabbert, curator of Masonic and fraternal collections at the National Heritage Museum in Lexington, Mass., in his new book, American Freemasons: Three Centuries of Building Communities. To many citizens, those conspicuous displays of fraternal affection for a foreign nobleman smacked of something both elitist and conspiratorial. Quite simply, Tabbert writes, they "heightened suspicion of the craft as an international order with secrets and a radical revolutionary past."

Not so secret. It was not the first time Freemasonry would meet with such a response. From its birth as an organized fraternal movement in early-18th-century London to this very day, Freemasonry has been the object of wide curiosity and occasional intense suspicion. With its elaborate secret rituals, its involvement with both ancient wisdom and modern Enlightenment science and reason, and its relatively exclusive membership (applicants must ask to join and are then vetted and voted upon), the Masonic brotherhood has proved almost tailor-made for weavers of conspiracy theories or opportunistic authors eager to make a buck by imaginatively "exposing" the secret ways and even more secret ambitions of the craft. If the "grand secret" of Freemasons, as brother Benjamin Franklin once said, "is that they have no secret at all," those who suggest otherwise--including novelist Dan Brown of Da Vinci Code fame in his forthcoming novel, The Solomon Key --have seldom gone wanting for a receptive audience.

The real history of Freemasonry is arguably more interesting than all the tales woven about it. But that history is at least in part the story of the many fanciful interpretations of the brotherhood. Indeed, the Masons' substantial accomplishments--in forming solid citizens, in forging social networks, in mending certain social divisions, in supporting philanthropic causes--are all the more remarkable in the face of past efforts to defame or even dismantle the organization.

One such effort erupted into a broad social and political movement in America less than two years after Lafayette's triumphal tour, though this effort was largely triggered by the shenanigans, or something criminally worse, of several overzealous New York members. In the summer of 1826 in the upstate town of Batavia, a disgruntled ne'er-do-well claiming to be a Mason, William Morgan, declared his intent to publish a book revealing the secrets of one of the higher-degree Masonic societies, the Royal Arch, that had earlier blackballed his candidacy. Arrested twice on charges trumped up by local Masons, the would-be exposer was mysteriously abducted and either run out of the country or killed. Charges were brought against the likely suspects, Masons all, but after some 20 trials, writes Bullock in his book Revolutionary Brotherhood: Freemasonry and the Transformation of the American Social Order, 1730-1840 , "only a handful of convictions resulted, all followed by minor jail terms." To a growing number of Americans already wary of the power of the craft, it looked as though Masons had gotten away with murder. And to many of those same Americans, everything that prominent evangelical ministers had been saying against Freemasons--that they were deists or believers in "natural" religion or necromantic cultists--seemed to be confirmed by this signal act of unrighteous behavior.

"Morgan committees" that originally set out to establish the truth about the crime soon became the spearhead of a statewide movement and then a national Anti-Masonic Party dedicated to driving the Masons out of existence. Pennsylvania and Vermont elected Anti-Masonic governors, and former U.S. Attorney General William Wirt ran for president on the party's ticket in 1832, winning Vermont's electoral votes and about 8 percent of the national popular vote.

The party soon disappeared as the Democratic and new Whig parties stepped up their organizational efforts to dominate the national political scene. But in addition to providing a model for future American single-issue movements, from abolitionism and temperance to today's Green Party, the anti-Masonic movement nearly drove the fraternity out of existence. New York State was home to about 500 local lodges in the mid-1820s, but only 26 lodges could muster representatives to attend the statewide grand lodge meeting in 1837. Almost two thirds of Indiana's lodges had shut down by the same year. By the end of the 1830s, Masonry was making a slow comeback, but, as Bullock writes, "it would never again recover the exalted position that had once seemed Masonry's just due."

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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2008, 01:52:39 pm »
Rald, dili religious group nor a religion ang Masonry. It's an organization composed of men (lalaki). Naay Mason nga Katoliko, naay "protestante" basta naa lang kay ginoo sa imong kinabuhi. 

The Tirols are bible-believing Christians. I don't call myself protestant. Kay ngano, kinsa akong gi-portestahan?

Protestant are called protestant because during the time of Martin Luther of the Lutheran Church, iya  man guikawat ang biblia unya translate from Latin so daghan na nakabasa. Kanidto kono bawal mabasa sa biblia. Kadtong rang mga Pare nga kamao ug latin.

Bitaw, tino-od jud na imo nga naay mga mason nga maayong tawo, akong Amigo si Congressman Sid Aligada sa OFW, mason to sya pero born again sab.

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