Author Topic: SO WHAT if you're BOTH MEN or BOTH WOMEN? (Read 9681 times)

bonbonquest · « **Reply #80 on:** July 03, 2008, 01:23:23 PM »

Behold, a sensible response. Thanks, Bambi! This relaxed my head.

Anyway, it's people like Lorenzo and WBP who initiate chaos in this world between liberal and traditional choices. They just couldn't swallow reality and it saddens me. They feel compelled to preach to the world whatever fuss their heads contain--unrelenting at that, in fact. To people like myself, it would be a matter to be ignored but for some, it's the very thing that creates repression and pretension. That's not good! No aspect of pretension is positive in any sense.

Thanks mucho, again, Bambi.

mae_flor · « **Reply #81 on:** July 03, 2008, 01:36:45 PM »

this is quite absolute and direct, i just love this post and i do hope that this may help us improve our perceptions..."If you have built your life on Jesus Christ and His teaching, you will stand when the storms of life hit. If you are not merely a hearer but a doer of His Word, you will endure. The true Christian is the one who has built his or her life on the right foundation and will stand the test of life".

grazie7y · « **Reply #82 on:** July 03, 2008, 02:24:33 PM »

I totally agree with you, Dong! Hate the sinner but not the sinner. And by the way, we all are sinners. I may not gay but it doesn't mean I am less of a sinner than a gay person. But it's just reality. We can't possibly sugarcoat that. It is a sin as much as it is a sin to steal or to covet somebody else's wife or husband, to lie, to sexually molest kids, etc.

Absolutely right. Just because other sin is heavier doesn't make other sinful acts nota sin. But I'd say, it's between you and God. You are not answerable to us as much as we are not answerable to you. And since we are having a discussion here, we are all entitled to our own opinion without badmouthing others who happen to have different take on the issue at hand. We got to respect that without losing composure.

When Maring ms da binsi visited me here, I was introduced by her two good friends who were gays. They both were so so smart and intellectual. I really respect them. We got into a discussion with one of the two gays. We didn't even ask her what and how she felt about this whole gay relationship thingie but she was so forthright in declaring that she believed that the sexual act is a sin.

I have two very best friends who are gays: a man wishing to be a woman and a woman wishing to be a man. They are happy people and I never had dull moments with them. I love them very much! We got into discussion about this issue and they share their views. They realized that they are not "normal" in the common perception. But they have to live with that and they accept themselves as much as we accept them.

I just have to share this one story. One of our friends got pregnant and her boyfriend didn't want to own up his responsibility. My friend did the unthinkable! She had her baby aborted! When my male gay friend learned about it, he was so sad. He talked to me and other lady friend. She said that should this happen to anyone of us, to tell him and he would marry us. We were all ready to laugh out loud because he is gay as gay can be but we realized he was darn serious! Oh, I just loved that man!

ms da binsi · « **Reply #83 on:** July 03, 2008, 07:50:13 PM »

See? ma bajut ug ma dili preha ra jud.

Sus nindto naman sad ibalik diha oi!

unsa kaha tong duha Tiya magpakasal ba o dili, pero ug dili apil ang Naturalization dili man jud sila pakasal.

anyhow, ug magpakasal sila magkita na sad ta, for sure, kay mo anha man ko!

weeehey!

grazie7y · « **Reply #84 on:** July 03, 2008, 10:03:20 PM »

Ali na ba adto ta ilang Gera and Ann! Ganahan jud bya ko nila. It took a while for me to get comfortable with Ann but once she started talking and opening up, I realized she was as nice as Gera! Hoy pastilan mabasahan ni nila dire ha basin masuko gi istaring sila!

Speaking of gay, what do you think of Newsom? Ga declare na jud diay sya na gay sya ba? He is so wapo and young. Only 41 and people are speculating that he is running for gov.

ms da binsi · « **Reply #85 on:** July 03, 2008, 10:08:59 PM »

Sa una ra na sha nag rampa sa Castro Tiya, pwerte man jud na shang bajuta! he was aleady known as bajut before he ran and won the mayoralty election sa San Francisco.

sus hurot2x na ang mga gwapo kay naggawas naman sila sa ilang lungga!

maajo nalang naa na tay mga laki kay ang mga bag-ong tubo nga mga dalagita karon, nihit na ang laki! hahaha

sori mga girls...

grazie7y · « **Reply #86 on:** July 03, 2008, 10:12:59 PM »

Seryos, crush baja na nako sya kay smart kaayo. kumbaga, intellectually stimulating!

Di ba, shortly after na sya mayor, nagbulag sya sa ijang wife na taga media then last year, na sakspan sya na iyang gi kabs ang wife sa iyang long time supporter. And then much later, declare na sya na bajut. Whew! Rampa jud baja sya sa Gay Parade last or two weeks ago!

ms da binsi · « **Reply #87 on:** July 03, 2008, 10:14:00 PM »

pastilan jud!

kiamoy · « **Reply #88 on:** July 03, 2008, 11:15:53 PM »

nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.

relax. steady lang taco

grazie7y · « **Reply #89 on:** July 04, 2008, 12:17:54 AM »

korek ka dyan, bem! be comfortable with what you are.

bonbonquest · « **Reply #90 on:** July 04, 2008, 01:30:57 AM »

I love this thread...

I have no regrets, whatsoever, starting it...

weeeeee!... go on... go on...

mura'g McDonald's bah... "I'm lovin' it!"... heheheh!

grazie7y · « **Reply #91 on:** July 04, 2008, 03:17:22 AM »

This is actually a nice thread, Ludwig. This has elicited reactions from both sides of the coins and it's always nice to know varying points of view. Let's just not take things personally because that could discourage other people to express their own ideas and opinions lest they would get the brunt of tantrums. I know there are some people who are still not comfortable to discuss this issue kay mahadlok maka offend sa mga tawo but there's really nothing wrong in just having friendly discussion.

So thank you for starting this thread, a daring and emotionally provocative topic, if I may dare to say so.

Bambi · « **Reply #92 on:** July 04, 2008, 06:36:07 AM »

There is a saying that goes â€œHate the sin, but love the sinner,â€ and that applies to homosexuals as well. Our God is a loving God. He forgives even the multitudes of sins.
Pare,
I know that you are not only intelligent one but you are also a distinguished young man with dignity. That phrase above.written might be dedicated to me, bonbon and the rest in TB members who are sinners (except to those who are sacred and holy)...na-a ba diha? $:-\$

Okey Pare thank you very much for the comprehensive explanation towards my inquiries....so that means- the whole discussion between the parties concerned were just an outcome of misinterpretation and/or over reactions. I hope this will be cleared then.
We must always put in mind that we are not GOD to denunciate others life. bonbonquest is happy of his life what our GOD had given..so, let us be happy with him. Certainly, there are other TB members who are concealed of his natural identity. Perphaps, this thread is the start of personal exposure among those who are hiding themselves.

FYI...I'm not reading the bible. Do you think if I will start to scan the pages it will make me a good Christian? I am afraid that it will make me confused at all... and isn't that it is oftentimes interpreted? How would I know the exact truth and meaning from it origin of that holy book? There are citations that feared me to stop existing....forbidden things. My younger sister is super intelligent, attending that successive bible study, she is a Chapel President, everyday attending Holy mass pero ug mangasaba na gani maoy gamiton ang mga panghadlok nga nasulat sa bibliya".

And besides...."hugaw kuno ang dugo sa baboy...dili ipakaon. Pastilan Pare paborito naho ang dugo-dugo ug specialista kung moluto ana....hangtod ang mga Germans kusog mokaon bisan wa kaila. Sus....I committed mortal sin kalingaw. $:-\$

Lorenzo · « **Reply #93 on:** July 04, 2008, 10:19:42 AM »

haha, Pareng Bambi,

Thank you for pointing out a very very important concept. The need to 'relax' and be 'cool' and 'calm' when discussing. Perhaps you did not mean to do it, but you indirectly reminded me of this. I know that I can get a bit serious in debate, especially on a topic that I find very mentally and intellectually stimulating. Specially this thread.

Pare, I too fit in the category of sinners. So you and I are partners in crime, so to say, LoL! There is no way that I am innocent of sin. No one is exempt jud 'te, and there is no one in this world who is completely and totally 'free' of sin and purely holy beside GOD.

You are right jud.

Sinning is part of being human, ing ana man jud na, pero it is our ability to rise above our sins and take responsibility of our sins that makes us good, jud, in regards to religious life.

And Pare you are right, we are all made because of God. We are because of him, and he gives all of us our own crosses to bear. Diba?

So thank you pare, for pointing things out to me indirectly. And of course, I am more than happy to discuss with you.

PS. I too love baboy, so im as guilty as you are on eating the 'pig' hahahaha. Plus, who can deny the yumminess of lechon? and adobong humba? LOL!

Yours,

grazie7y · « **Reply #94 on:** July 04, 2008, 10:40:26 AM »

Dong, abodong humba?

That is sinfully good!

Lorenzo · « **Reply #95 on:** July 04, 2008, 10:43:35 AM »

LOL!!

Sinfully good jud, 'te!

Anaaa! Na gutom na jud ko diri da!

'te!!!

bonbonquest · « **Reply #96 on:** July 04, 2008, 12:43:14 PM »

http://www.imeem.com/people/RrjD80/music/NJQG_mlH/avenue_q_if_you_were_gay/

open this... simple and stupid song... but it makes a lot of sense...

it's from the musical Avenue Q...

udtohan · « **Reply #97 on:** July 04, 2008, 01:42:24 PM »

hahaha nice. there was a musical show last june 17 at Carlos P. Romulo Auditorium in RCBC Tower Makati City Philippines to watch the farewell run of the Broadway hit musical â€œAvenue Q.â€

2586150765_c1cafa1c94_o - SO WHAT if you're BOTH MEN or BOTH WOMEN? - Love Talk

2586150765_c1cafa1c94_o - SO WHAT if you're BOTH MEN or BOTH WOMEN? - Love Talk

last year, i loved the song "there's a fine fine lie between love and ..." it's wonderful.

bonbonquest · « **Reply #98 on:** July 04, 2008, 01:59:53 PM »

did you catch that show? i missed it... well, I didn't even know there was a show... hehehe! sayang ah!...

and about that song, "There's a Fine, Fine Line"... it's a nice song... makes a lot of sense, too... ang mga songs sa AQ kay binuang pero meaningful kaayo jud... as in!...
even the song "The Internet is for Porn"... heheheh!

Bambi · « **Reply #99 on:** July 04, 2008, 06:46:44 PM »

You are not only genius but much liberal too to accept the simple way how I understand things in more or less directions. I love you for that boy!
Let me share you this....
Bitaw Pare..maong dili gyod ko mobasa ug Bibliya kay makalibog ug samot unya basin ug mobalhin kog tino-uhan unya.
I often remembered short after I filed a divorced after 18 years of marriage, my younger sister who has lot of titles/degress: (She was always the No.1 since Elem- grades, High school (Valedictorian....Ex Pres. Roxas schlorarship, 1 of the top ten in Nursing, graduated in Law but she did not take the Bar though my ex-Chief in PFO b4 was 100% that she will get it being her Law Prof. as he told me (Atty Ucat from Valencia), she is Chemical Engr. license holder, she graduated BSE and at present she is a Chief of 30 PNPs all men, she was assigned in Cotabato, long service in Bohol and Region !V, at present assigned somewhere in Leyte...she has that rank third from the highest). And she is too religious and a bit conservative but I love and respected her brillant ideas for she meant it good for me. She is a strong POST IN THE WHOLE FAMILY. To make it short, on that time of my life crisis, she oftentimes mailed a very thick letters with "biblical long verses/ citations" for she was 100% that I had sinned, have sin committing "adultery". I had answered her in diplomatic way: "Pamisahi na lang ko diha kay dako mog gasto sa bayad sa mail" usahay abot god ug almost 1000 Pesos kay mora naman ug little package. Pare....to tell you the truth it did takes for my Family to accept that for then a big "tragedy" and now they are happy for me knowing that I deserved having my loving young husband. They all like and love him! But for them...my first one remains as the original according to God's law. I have a good friendly relationship with my Ex and his Family. Their doors are still wide open for me anytime. And for this....I thank God for his blessings, given me this kind of life: God is good at all and even sinners are under his custodial care, isn't?

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