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pioneer · « **on:** June 10, 2007, 06:00:55 AM »

The CIA Factbook says we are now 91 million. Exact Figure: 91,077,287 (July 2007 estimate)

To give you a comparison of our enormous population:

Canada: 33-34 million
Australia: 22-23 million
Switzerland: 6 million

kamo nay sumpay pila mo diha sa inyong respective countries.

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Happy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2007, 06:08:35 AM »

whoa! filipino is the best

Denmark: 5,468,120 (July 2007 est.)

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buenavista · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2007, 05:08:10 PM »

daghana gyud diay sa filipino,

Brunei--357,800 (2004 est)--wala ko kahibalo naapil ba mi ani

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2007, 06:05:44 AM »

The United States of America: 302,266,271.

RP is .32 the size of the world's super power (in terms of population, of course).

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #4 on:** July 11, 2007, 07:58:59 AM »

So does this make Philippines the 2nd most populous country in south east asia? Correct me if im wrong--isnt Indonesia most populous in SEA?

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..yadz.. · « **Reply #5 on:** July 11, 2007, 11:26:18 AM »

haaay., one thing for sure., overcrowded na ang pilipinas..and it's not good for the economy jud., millions na pud ang jobless, thousands ang out-of-school youths...dapat naa nay strict policy ang gov't and DOH about s family planning...

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pioneer · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2007, 12:07:06 PM »

So does this make Philippines the 2nd most populous country in south east asia? Correct me if im wrong--isnt Indonesia most populous in SEA?

I'll check on this. Yes, Indonesia is the most populous country in South East Asia.

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buenavista · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2007, 01:40:40 PM »

i heard na nag implement na sauna ang gov't ani nya babagan man sa simbahan $:-\$

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:12:32 PM »

The CIA Factbook says we are now 91 million. Exact Figure: 91,077,287 (July 2007 estimate)

To give you a comparison of our enormous population:

Canada: 33-34 million
Australia: 22-23 million
Switzerland: 6 million

kamo nay sumpay pila mo diha sa inyong respective countries.

I'm just here in Tagbilaran but I learned from a New Zealander that there are only about 4 million of them there.

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Happy · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2007, 11:03:42 PM »

i heard na nag implement na sauna ang gov't ani nya babagan man sa simbahan $:-\$

I heard about this too, dili daw mo work ang family planning kay mobabag ang church, but as for me, naa raman guro jud na sa tawo or magtiayon kung naghuna-huna sila sa kaugmaon sa ilang mga anak.

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:20:30 PM »

At the risk of being hypocritical, I have to agree with mfrandsen.

The Church may oppose artificial methods of contraception but it cannot help but do so because of its doctrines. To say that the Church is responsible for the overpopulation of the Philippines is itself irresponsible. The matter of population control is something that every Filipino must answer for himself or herself.

Many Filipinos have been Christians by convenience, we follow only what is least disquieting to our schedule and spout biblical passages only when they serve our purpose. By the same line of reasoning, Filipinos would use artificial methods of birth control, with or without the Church's blessing, if we really wanted to. If it's convenient.

There have been as many homilies against gambling, against unfaithfulness, and against dishonesty as there have been homilies against contraception but do you see Filipino Christians gambling less, being more faithful to their spouses, and politicians being more honest? We so quickly raise the defense of contraception being against the Church's teachings when we do not even observe all the other teachings of the Church.

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hippieinchains · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2007, 05:17:07 AM »

haaay., one thing for sure., overcrowded na ang pilipinas..and it's not good for the economy jud., millions na pud ang jobless, thousands ang out-of-school youths...dapat naa nay strict policy ang gov't and DOH about s family planning...

I honestly think that it isn't our large population that is hurting our economy. A large population is a good thing as long as you have the right "management" ( at the moment I can't think of a better word, but I guess you get the point).

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..yadz.. · « **Reply #12 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:08:38 PM »

hippieinchains, you are right also, like in china populated sad sila but then their economy is booming. the chinese people are not suffering from too much poverty and chaos. speaking of pinas, grabe ang graft and corruption., mao nay tinood. pinas is not properly managed jud sa tinood lang!

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..yadz.. · « **Reply #13 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:24:24 PM »

I heard about this too, dili daw mo work ang family planning kay mobabag ang church, but as for me, naa raman guro jud na sa tawo or magtiayon kung naghuna-huna sila sa kaugmaon sa ilang mga anak.

sakto sad ka cel, naa ra na sa mga parents but then mas maayo man unta nga mo assist sad ang government kay kasagaran ra ba sa daghan ug anak kaning mga less fortunate filipinos, kasagaran mga walay insaktong grado tingali ang uban wala kabalo ang mga family planning methods... so, dapat mohatag jud ang government ug awareness program about sa family planning and it should be for free or dapat strict policy jud. dili na maihap ang mga batang gpang labay sa suba, dili na maihap ang mga batang naa sa kalsada ngpalimos, puno na intawn ang mga dswd centers sa mga batang gpasagdan. haay., pilipinas gubot pa sa lukot..hehehe!

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2007, 09:49:53 AM »

So what do you think should be done about it? Do you think the current administration is doing its job? Not enough?

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2007, 03:17:25 PM »

So what do you think should be done about it? Do you think the current administration is doing its job? Not enough?

My knee-jerk answer would be, "No."

But then I think of how thinly spread the government's resources are and I have second-thoughts. In a country where close to 70% of the budget goes to debt servicing and the bulk of the remaining funds goes into modernizing the armed forces, one can only do so much. (I once saw a local TV documentary on the state of government hospitals in Samar and Leyte and I could only rage at the helplessness that the doctors and nurses there must feel.) And then comes graft and corruption.

So then I'd like to think that only a responsible, empowered citizenry is the answer but I realize that most don't even know where the next meal is going to come from.

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2007, 03:18:06 PM »

However, I also believe that we can all do our bit to help, the government as well, but we will have to begin with values.

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #17 on:** July 14, 2007, 03:22:49 PM »

It is interesting Onicul85, that you have a quote from our national hero, Jose Rizal, as your signature.

I am reminded of Fr. Victorino's (I think) words in El Fili, when he said that as long as we reward vice and punish virtue we will continue to suffer. Indeed, the sacrifice must be pure to be acceptable.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2007, 08:23:45 AM »

Sacrifice was already given, my friend. In the form of Beningno Ninoy Aquino. It was his death and unfortunate passing that awakened the millions of Filipinos--seaking justice and democracy---with its mighty wake, the lashes and control of the Marcos administration buckled into the pages of history. If only the Filipino people could maintain our passionate nature and wipe out graft and corruption into a mitigate percentage...

However, I believe that our current administration is doing as much as possible with what little resources we have. So far so good, says I. Let it be incentive for the next presidencies to follow the trend of economic improvement as well as human development index.

Btw, my friend, I am in love with the philosophical and literary works of Sr. Dr. Jose P. Rizal; I actually did a rendition of his 'Ultima Adios' in college for my East Asian History Class. To think...if we had a president as brilliant and as passionate as Sr. Dr. Rizal....

What a nation the Philippines could have been..

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2007, 11:31:27 AM »

It is interesting Onicul85, that you have a quote from our national hero, Jose Rizal, as your signature.

I am reminded of Fr. Victorino's (I think) words in El Fili, when he said that as long as we reward vice and punish virtue we will continue to suffer. Indeed, the sacrifice must be pure to be acceptable.

Fr. Victorino (ehehehe), I meant Fr. Florentino.

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #20 on:** July 16, 2007, 11:44:01 AM »

Sacrifice was already given, my friend. In the form of Beningno Ninoy Aquino. It was his death and unfortunate passing that awakened the millions of Filipinos--seaking justice and democracy---with its mighty wake, the lashes and control of the Marcos administration buckled into the pages of history. If only the Filipino people could maintain our passionate nature and wipe out graft and corruption into a mitigate percentage...

However, I believe that our current administration is doing as much as possible with what little resources we have. So far so good, says I. Let it be incentive for the next presidencies to follow the trend of economic improvement as well as human development index.

Btw, my friend, I am in love with the philosophical and literary works of Sr. Dr. Jose P. Rizal; I actually did a rendition of his 'Ultima Adios' in college for my East Asian History Class. To think...if we had a president as brilliant and as passionate as Sr. Dr. Rizal....

What a nation the Philippines could have been..

But the sacrifice cannot be in the form of a messiah without a corresponding worthiness in the nation and its people. Otherwise, messiah after messiah will perish for naught.

And if Rizal had been our president he would have exhorted each of us to strive to be great in our aspirations and in our deeds. "Sic itur ad astra."

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2007, 01:08:18 PM »

But the sacrifice cannot be in the form of a messiah without a corresponding worthiness in the nation and its people. Otherwise, messiah after messiah will perish for naught.

And if Rizal had been our president he would have exhorted each of us to strive to be great in our aspirations and in our deeds. "Sic itur ad astra."

Amen to that; you make a valid and true point. Now that you said it, i wonder---had our beloved Sr. Dr. Jose P Rizal ever been president, do you think he would have been corrupted by the veils of politics? Or do you think he would have been as idealistic such as Robespierre and Jacobin--and become the antithesis what we now remember him for?

For..absolute power does corrupt absolutely..

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #22 on:** July 16, 2007, 01:17:53 PM »

I really don't know how he would have turned out but I imagine that if he were offered the position, much like Gandhi, he would refuse the office and leave it to those who are more interested.
I imagine that his activities, among other things, would be primarily directed towards awakening the people to the rights and the duties of citizens.

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #23 on:** July 16, 2007, 01:32:12 PM »

As for absolute power corrupting absolutely, I feel that the quote has exceptions. The quote from Lord Acton goes, "Power tends to corrupt. And absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men have almost always been bad men."

"Almost always" allows for a few exceptions and, as naive as it may seem, I hope Rizal would have been one of them.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #24 on:** July 17, 2007, 11:40:31 PM »

Indeed, indeed. I personally try to think of the positive and never consider negative possibilities when concerning great political minds such as Rizal, Robespierre, Jacobin, Marat, Locke, etc.

I do agree that had Sr. Dr. Rizal survived and was spared his fate in Dapitan, could he have succeeded in awakening the national persona of the Filipino and brought in the majesty of national discourse to our beloved Fatherland? When one reads the works of Rizal, I can't help but hear the echoes of the French Revolution and the 1st Republic's core values of "LibertÃ©, Ã©galitÃ©, et fraternitÃ©".

Had Rizal been spared, do you think that he would have cooperated with the Malolos Republic in setting up the first republican form of government in all of Asia? Or do you think the Philippine Revolution would have had been less convicing---since Rizal's death sparked a growth in anti-Spanish sentiments that benefited the Independence movement in the country?? I can only wonder....on the possibilities.

What do you think??

Rizal, en mi opiniÃ³n, habÃa el pensador polÃtico mÃ¡s grande terminado. Rizal era gran poeta, gran filÃ³sofo, gran idealista. Â¿Sin embargo, usted lo piensa habrÃa diferenciado si Ã©l viviÃ³?

Sinceramente,

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slackware · « **Reply #25 on:** July 17, 2007, 11:55:40 PM »

Rizal, in my opinion, was the biggest political mind. Rizal was a big poet, big philosopher, big idealist. Nevertheless, do you think that you would have differentiated if he lived?

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #26 on:** July 18, 2007, 12:01:47 AM »

Gracias por traducir el texto espaÃ±oles. Â¿CuÃ¡les son sus opiniones sobre Rizal, Interdiccio'n-Alam? Â¡Gracias por adelantado!!

***Apologies for those who have difficulty understanding Spanish---afterall, it was once our official language***

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..yadz.. · « **Reply #27 on:** July 18, 2007, 02:21:46 PM »

onic, gamay ra man ako nahibaw-an spanish words..hehehe...
plato, platito, kutsara, kutsarita, banko, bangkito...tita, tito, seÃ±ora, seÃ±or,seÃ±orita...hehehe!

bitaw, kahinumdom lang ko sa ako high school teacher na lihiro kaayo mo spanish...pati ako lola.., kay before daw mao na ila language...

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #28 on:** July 19, 2007, 04:00:35 PM »

Rizal, en mi opiniÃ³n, habÃa el pensador polÃtico mÃ¡s grande terminado. Rizal era gran poeta, gran filÃ³sofo, gran idealista. Â¿Sin embargo, usted lo piensa habrÃa diferenciado si Ã©l viviÃ³? Smiley

Dispensame mi amigo.

Uhmmm...tengo poco espaÃ±ol.

Hablamos en ingles o Binisaya?

Seriously, I just know some phrases and a few words and I'm not really sure about my conjugations, which is a shame since my father taught and my mother still does teach Spanish.

Anyway, for one such as Rizal, who felt so much passion for his country and his fellowmen and who would not compromise his ideals, his fate was inevitable. His life may have ended abruptly but often there is no other way to die for people like him except as a hero. But, at least, his ideas and ideals have become immortal through us.

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Happy · « **Reply #29 on:** July 19, 2007, 07:09:27 PM »

onic, gamay ra man ako nahibaw-an spanish words..hehehe...
plato, platito, kutsara, kutsarita, banko, bangkito...tita, tito, seÃ±ora, seÃ±or,seÃ±orita...hehehe!

yadz, maora rapud tawon na ako nahinumduman hahaha

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #30 on:** July 19, 2007, 11:51:15 PM »

Dispensame mi amigo.

Uhmmm...tengo poco espaÃ±ol.

Hablamos en ingles o Binisaya?

Seriously, I just know some phrases and a few words and I'm not really sure about my conjugations, which is a shame since my father taught and my mother still does teach Spanish.

Anyway, for one such as Rizal, who felt so much passion for his country and his fellowmen and who would not compromise his ideals, his fate was inevitable. His life may have ended abruptly but often there is no other way to die for people like him except as a hero. But, at least, his ideas and ideals have become immortal through us.

Los saludos mi amigo, de que son buenos que usted habla inglÃ©s y filipino, solamente sus tambiÃ©n buenos saber un cierto espaÃ±ol. Pienso que los filipinos deben aprender espaÃ±ol porque tenemos tanto historia con Ã©l; la educaciÃ³n introducida espaÃ±ola, la lengua latina, el alfabeto latino, la religiÃ³n catÃ³lica y la jurisprudencia y la ley espaÃ±olas. Creo que es importante que los filipinos recordar y entiendan lengua espaÃ±ola. El espaÃ±ol es parte de nuestra identidad, nuestra historia. Las islas filipinas eran pieza del imperio espaÃ±ol por 400 aÃ±os.

Tu Amigo,
Brando

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Happy · « **Reply #31 on:** July 20, 2007, 06:48:57 AM »

Mga kahigalaan, wala na jud intawon ko makasabot sa inyong gipanulti

, naa koy nasabtan pero wala man magtapad nang mga words, tagsa tagsa man haha

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Julai · « **Reply #32 on:** July 20, 2007, 09:02:32 AM »

The CIA Factbook says we are now 91 million. Exact Figure: 91,077,287 (July 2007 estimate)

Ohhh my,kadaghan na ba nato..the last figure I remembered about our population was 82 million and that was 3 years ago...kadali gud ni grow sa atong population.

Here the population of Norway as of 2007 : 4,627,926 (Source: CIA World Factbook )

The government has to make serious move in controlling our population and I think it's about time that the Church cooperates.

Population control has been a big issue since then and it really bothers me until now on whether I should support the government or the church.I'm a devoted Catholic and I come from a religious family.My mother is against contraceptive (and she doesn't allow my brother and his wife to use one), but I want them to use contraceptives especially now that they don't have jobs yet.

For me,it is more sinful to have many children and not able to provide for their needs and even basic needs for that matter.The use of contraceptives should be legalized for population control.However,I'm still against the legalization of abortion.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #33 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:13:10 AM »

Thats a really good point you brought up, Julai. The fact that our country's population is growing at a rate of 1.5+% a year is a serious concern, as it does pose a threat to proper human development index rates. The Philippines is a regional power--with such a population--and its evident that we need breathing space. I think that we need to colonize Mindanao and focus on total assimilation---I also think that one way to solve our population problem is also to press our historical claim of Sabah Province, which is at this moment being occupied by Malaysian Squatters. Sabah is a historical estate by the Sulu Sultanate, which is a political entity that is under protection and collaboration by the Philippine Government.

I say..we pursue a 'southward' expansion. Philippine Manifest Destiny is inevetible---

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #34 on:** July 20, 2007, 11:13:23 AM »

Reading the last two posts, reminds me how off-topic the discussion preceding them have been.

Maybe there should be a separate thread for Rizal?

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #35 on:** July 20, 2007, 11:30:07 AM »

Los saludos mi amigo, de que son buenos que usted habla inglÃ©s y filipino, solamente sus tambiÃ©n buenos saber un cierto espaÃ±ol. Pienso que los filipinos deben aprender espaÃ±ol porque tenemos tanto historia con Ã©l; la educaciÃ³n introducida espaÃ±ola, la lengua latina, el alfabeto latino, la religiÃ³n catÃ³lica y la jurisprudencia y la ley espaÃ±olas. Creo que es importante que los filipinos recordar y entiendan lengua espaÃ±ola. El espaÃ±ol es parte de nuestra identidad, nuestra historia. Las islas filipinas eran pieza del imperio espaÃ±ol por 400 aÃ±os.

Tu Amigo,
Brando

Mi amigo Brando, perdoname. Yo no hablo bien espaÃ±ol. Tengo triste.

As I've said before, my friend, I only know trite phrases and a few words, although I do understand a little bit of what you are saying, er... writing. Please permit me to answer in English.

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #36 on:** July 20, 2007, 11:47:34 AM »

Yes, I agree, the Spanish language is as much a part of our national identity as our pre-Hispanic culture and unless we recognize it and accept it we are a people rootless. Their laws, their religion, their literature, their arts still have a bearing on contemporary culture. And the importance of espaÃ±ol alone as the primary language in studying our history cannot be undermined. However, we cannot insist upon other persons who refuse to learn the language because it is not the lingua franca or for the pseudo-patriotic reason that it was the language of the conquistadors (which, of course, begs the question, "Why study English then?"). We can only start with ourselves.

p.s. I confess to reading only the English translations of the Noli and the Fili and I know that there is always something changed by translation but I trust that Soledad Lacson-Locsin tried to stay true to the spirit and the passion of the originals.

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Melrose · « **Reply #37 on:** July 20, 2007, 12:05:40 PM »

Population? Hehehe! Naa mi kanta hinimo bahin ani sa bata pa mi (take note: sa bata pa mi...) during a gathering of children and youth didto sa Baguio City. Sing it with me in the tune of "Always" by the Universal Motion Dancers (with Wowee de Guzman)... Oh, ha! Jologs ba?

"Always"

When it's cold outside, anak kayo ng anak
Hold on, tama na, Juan Flavier muna.... let's DOH it...

Always nanganganak tayo
Marami na tayo
And live in poverty poverty always... 2x!

Hehehe! Suko gyud CWL nako ani...

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Melrose · « **Reply #38 on:** July 20, 2007, 12:08:37 PM »

Thats a really good point you brought up, Julai. The fact that our country's population is growing at a rate of 1.5+% a year is a serious concern, as it does pose a threat to proper human development index rates. The Philippines is a regional power--with such a population--and its evident that we need breathing space. I think that we need to colonize Mindanao and focus on total assimilation---I also think that one way to solve our population problem is also to press our historical claim of Sabah Province, which is at this moment being occupied by Malaysian Squatters. Sabah is a historical estate by the Sulu Sultanate, which is a political entity that is under protection and collaboration by the Philippine Government.

I say..we pursue a 'southward' expansion. Philippine Manifest Destiny is inevetible---

oiz, even the sulu sultanate wishes to be mum about the Sabah issue for now...

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Sigbin II · « **Reply #39 on:** July 20, 2007, 12:21:38 PM »

Population? Hehehe! Naa mi kanta hinimo bahin ani sa bata pa mi (take note: sa bata pa mi...) during a gathering of children and youth didto sa Baguio City. Sing it with me in the tune of "Always" by the Universal Motion Dancers (with Wowee de Guzman)... Oh, ha! Jologs ba?

"Always"

When it's cold outside, anak kayo ng anak
Hold on, tama na, Juan Flavier muna na.... let's DOH it...

Always nanganganak tayo
Marami na tayo
And live in poverty poverty always... 2x!

Hehehe! Suko gyud CWL nako ani...

hahaha

More! More! More!

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Happy · « **Reply #40 on:** July 20, 2007, 07:39:48 PM »

Population? Hehehe! Naa mi kanta hinimo bahin ani sa bata pa mi (take note: sa bata pa mi...) during a gathering of children and youth didto sa Baguio City. Sing it with me in the tune of "Always" by the Universal Motion Dancers (with Wowee de Guzman)... Oh, ha! Jologs ba?

"Always"

When it's cold outside, anak kayo ng anak
Hold on, tama na, Juan Flavier muna.... let's DOH it...

Always nanganganak tayo
Marami na tayo
And live in poverty poverty always... 2x!

Hehehe! Suko gyud CWL nako ani...

Unsa man tono anang always na, nga bon jovi raman nga always ako mahinumduman nga tono hahaha, pasayloa kay gitay-an na intawon ang panumduman

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #41 on:** July 20, 2007, 08:59:26 PM »

oiz, even the sulu sultanate wishes to be mum about the Sabah issue for now...

Ngano man na, snowhite? dili diay sila gusto ee press ilang claims dinha? gi buy out diay sila sa malaysians?

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hazel · « **Reply #42 on:** August 08, 2007, 07:08:17 AM »

"Always"

When it's cold outside, anak kayo ng anak
Hold on, tama na, Juan Flavier muna.... let's DOH it...

Always nanganganak tayo
Marami na tayo
And live in poverty poverty always... 2x!

Hehehe! Suko gyud CWL nako ani...

hahaha mao diay sikat tong kantaha sa una kay ang tanan....always man pud sa ----

alegre pud raba ang stepping aning kantaha.

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junayag · « **Reply #43 on:** August 09, 2007, 01:53:32 AM »

Dinhi sa Saudi Arabia, ila population is in the range of 25 - 27 Million. And it is Indonesia, the home of largest Muslim population.

Hinuktukan nako ngano man ang Pilipinas taas kaayo ang birth rate? Dili kaha gituyo ni sa Ginoo kay ang Pilipinas raba ang only largely Catholic nation in Asia and we have a mission to the world? that of preaching His words?

Tan-awa anywhere you go in the world, grabe ang religious congregation among Filipinos even on restricted soil. And we are now more than 9 million OFWs who are also sowing the God's words of wisdom?

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