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Life is all about choices
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:02:23 PM »
John is the kind of guy you love to hate.  He is always in a good mood and always has something positive to say.  When someone would ask him how he was doing, he would reply, 'If I were any better, I would be twins!'

He was a natural motivator..

If an employee was having a bad day, John was there telling the employee how to look on the positive side of the situation.

Seeing this style really made me curious, so one day I went up and asked him, 'I don't get it!'

'You can't be a positive person all of the time.  How do you do it?'

He replied, 'Each morning I wake up and say to myself, you have two choices today.  You can choose to be in a good mood or...you can choose to be in a bad mood

I choose to be in a good mood.'

Each time something bad happens, I can choose to be a victim or...I can choose to learn from it.  I choose to learn from it.

Every time someone comes to me complaining, I can choose to accept their complaining or...I can point out the positive side of life.  I choose the positive side of life.

'Yeah, right, it's not that easy,' I protested.

'Yes, it is,' he said.  'Life is all about choices.  When you cut away all the junk, every situation is a choice.  You choose how you react to situations.  You choose how people affect your mood.

You choose to be in a good mood or bad mood.  The bottom line:  It's your choice how you live your life.'

I reflected on what he said.  Soon hereafter, I left the Tower Industry to start my own business..  We lost touch, but I often thought about him when I made a choice about life instead of reacting to it.

Several years later, I heard that he was involved in a serious accident, falling some 60 feet from a communications tower.

After 18 hours of surgery and weeks of intensive care, he was released from the hospital with rods placed in his back.

I saw him about six months after the accident.

When I asked him how he was, he replied, 'If I were any better, I'd be twins...Wanna see my scars?'

I declined to see his wounds, but I did ask him what had gone through his mind as the accident took place.

'The first thing that went through my mind was the well-being of my soon-to-be born daughter,' he replied.  'Then, as I lay on the ground, I remembered that I had two choices:  I could choose to live or...I could choose to die.  I chose to live.'

'Weren't you scared?  Did you lose consciousness?'  I asked.

He continued, '...the paramedics were great.

They kept telling me I was going to be fine.  But when they wheeled me into the ER and I saw the expressions on the faces of the doctors and nurses, I got really scared.  In their eyes, I read 'he's a dead man'.  I knew I needed to take action.'

'What did you do?' I asked..

'Well, there was a big burly nurse shouting questions at me,' said John.  'She asked if I was allergic to anything 'Yes, I replied.'  The doctors and nurses stopped working as they waited for my reply.  I took a deep breath and yelled, 'Gravity''

Over their laughter, I told them, 'I am choosing to live.  Operate on me as if I am alive, not dead.'

He lived, thanks to the skill of his doctors, but also because of his amazing attitude...I learned from him that every day we have the choice to live fully...

Attitude, after all, is everything.

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.  Each day has enough trouble of its own.'  Matthew 6:34.

After all today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. - forwarded email...

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Re: Life is all about choices
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 07:55:20 AM »
Great inspiration, the Lord is in control of everything
decision, decision and it's all yours
Decision to make for eternity is all yours,
  heaven or hell still the choice is yours.

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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 08:12:29 AM »
I agree...life is about choices.. not choosing also is a choice.

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Re: Life is all about choices
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2010, 09:12:46 PM »
I agree...life is about choices.. not choosing also is a choice.
not choosing is not a choice... ;D kung wala ka'y choice...tabla man na ug patay nah kay di na kahimu mupili...hehehe,

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2010, 09:16:59 PM »
if someone preferred not to choose, its still his choice.

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2010, 09:35:41 PM »
That is why I said not choosing it is also a choice. I have a choice to migrate in UK and US at the same time, I did not choose UK, I preferred US.

That was a choice.

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2010, 09:38:48 PM »
That is why I said not choosing it is also a choice. I have a choice to migrate in UK and US at the same time, I did not choose UK, I preferred US.

That was a choice.
so you did made a choice?.... ;D

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2010, 10:16:27 PM »
Not choosing to go to UK was a choice...


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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2010, 11:40:33 PM »
He was a natural motivator..

If an employee was having a bad day, John was there telling the employee how to look on the positive side of the situation.

Seeing this style really made me curious, so one day I went up and asked him, 'I don't get it!'

'You can't be a positive person all of the time.  How do you do it?'

He replied, 'Each morning I wake up and say to myself, you have two choices today.  You can choose to be in a good mood or...you can choose to be in a bad mood

I choose to be in a good mood.'

Each time something bad happens, I can choose to be a victim or...I can choose to learn from it.  I choose to learn from it.

Every time someone comes to me complaining, I can choose to accept their complaining or...I can point out the positive side of life.  I choose the positive side of life.

'Yeah, right, it's not that easy,' I protested.

'Yes, it is,' he said.  'Life is all about choices.  When you cut away all the junk, every situation is a choice.  You choose how you react to situations.  You choose how people affect your mood.

You choose to be in a good mood or bad mood.  The bottom line:  It's your choice how you live your life.'

Sounds good. But we have to remember that decisions are not discrete: they are connected to everthing else in our life, to who were are, to our sense of self-worth. Moods certainly make a difference, but moods should be subject to one's principles, and not vice versa. You cannot choose to be in a good mood while a murder is being committed and decide to just let the murderer have his way, just because you woke up to a decision to be in a good mood. Unless, of course, you're an utterly despicable human being... 

The positive side of life is not, I'm afraid, a matter of choosing the best mood to be in. The positive side of live is, I believe, living up to your principles, wherever these principles lead you, and in whatever mood they bring you there. Mood is simply the costume you wear to the carnival of life. Other people might mistake the costume for the person, but you ought to know better. And they should, too.

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2010, 12:19:11 AM »
Sounds good. But we have to remember that decisions are not discrete: they are connected to everthing else in our life, to who were are, to our sense of self-worth. Moods certainly make a difference, but moods should be subject to one's principles, and not vice versa. You cannot choose to be in a good mood while a murder is being committed and decide to just let the murderer have his way, just because you woke up to a decision to be in a good mood. Unless, of course, you're an utterly despicable human being...   

I agree with you, most decisions people made (or just speaking for myself) were all circumstantial. Generally , we based our decisions on the circumstances at that time of the decision making.



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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2010, 09:38:18 AM »
I agree...life is about choices.. not choosing also is a choice.

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2010, 09:38:54 AM »
John is the kind of guy you love to hate.  He is always in a good mood and always has something positive to say.  When someone would ask him how he was doing, he would reply, 'If I were any better, I would be twins!'

He was a natural motivator..

If an employee was having a bad day, John was there telling the employee how to look on the positive side of the situation.

Seeing this style really made me curious, so one day I went up and asked him, 'I don't get it!'

'You can't be a positive person all of the time.  How do you do it?'

He replied, 'Each morning I wake up and say to myself, you have two choices today.  You can choose to be in a good mood or...you can choose to be in a bad mood

I choose to be in a good mood.'

Each time something bad happens, I can choose to be a victim or...I can choose to learn from it.  I choose to learn from it.

Every time someone comes to me complaining, I can choose to accept their complaining or...I can point out the positive side of life.  I choose the positive side of life.

'Yeah, right, it's not that easy,' I protested.

'Yes, it is,' he said.  'Life is all about choices.  When you cut away all the junk, every situation is a choice.  You choose how you react to situations.  You choose how people affect your mood.

You choose to be in a good mood or bad mood.  The bottom line:  It's your choice how you live your life.'

I reflected on what he said.  Soon hereafter, I left the Tower Industry to start my own business..  We lost touch, but I often thought about him when I made a choice about life instead of reacting to it.

Several years later, I heard that he was involved in a serious accident, falling some 60 feet from a communications tower.

After 18 hours of surgery and weeks of intensive care, he was released from the hospital with rods placed in his back.

I saw him about six months after the accident.

When I asked him how he was, he replied, 'If I were any better, I'd be twins...Wanna see my scars?'

I declined to see his wounds, but I did ask him what had gone through his mind as the accident took place.

'The first thing that went through my mind was the well-being of my soon-to-be born daughter,' he replied.  'Then, as I lay on the ground, I remembered that I had two choices:  I could choose to live or...I could choose to die.  I chose to live.'

'Weren't you scared?  Did you lose consciousness?'  I asked.

He continued, '...the paramedics were great.

They kept telling me I was going to be fine.  But when they wheeled me into the ER and I saw the expressions on the faces of the doctors and nurses, I got really scared.  In their eyes, I read 'he's a dead man'.  I knew I needed to take action.'

'What did you do?' I asked..

'Well, there was a big burly nurse shouting questions at me,' said John.  'She asked if I was allergic to anything 'Yes, I replied.'  The doctors and nurses stopped working as they waited for my reply.  I took a deep breath and yelled, 'Gravity''

Over their laughter, I told them, 'I am choosing to live.  Operate on me as if I am alive, not dead.'

He lived, thanks to the skill of his doctors, but also because of his amazing attitude...I learned from him that every day we have the choice to live fully...

Attitude, after all, is everything.

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.  Each day has enough trouble of its own.'  Matthew 6:34.

After all today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. - forwarded email...

Life, is always about choice. The good and the bad.

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2010, 12:02:05 PM »
Sounds good. But we have to remember that decisions are not discrete: they are connected to everthing else in our life, to who were are, to our sense of self-worth. Moods certainly make a difference, but moods should be subject to one's principles, and not vice versa. You cannot choose to be in a good mood while a murder is being committed and decide to just let the murderer have his way, just because you woke up to a decision to be in a good mood. Unless, of course, you're an utterly despicable human being...   

I agree with you, most decisions people made (or just speaking for myself) were all circumstantial. Generally , we based our decisions on the circumstances at that time of the decision making.


And it's because circumstances are shifting and unpredictable that training and principles come into play. Sometimes, conscious deliberate choice is not an option. It can happen that one is not given the luxury of agonizing over a decision.

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2010, 07:10:58 PM »
And it's because circumstances are shifting and unpredictable that training and principles come into play. Sometimes, conscious deliberate choice is not an option. It can happen that one is not given the luxury of agonizing over a decision.

Sometimes, our deciions are painful, sometimes they were wrong at the start and turn out right in the end, sometimes we thought they were right and were yielding negative results in the end, sometimes in the process it will hurt or make people happy. The only thing that really matters is to stand brave in facing the consequences of our decisions and the willingness to repair the damages if there are any.

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2010, 08:02:31 PM »
Sometimes, our deciions are painful, sometimes they were wrong at the start and turn out right in the end, sometimes we thought they were right and were yielding negative results in the end, sometimes in the process it will hurt or make people happy. The only thing that really matters is to stand brave in facing the consequences of our decisions and the willingness to repair the damages if there are any.

Yes, life is just too full of variables that there's no way of knowing where our decisions lead us, or what unintended consequences they engender. The mind can fairly easily surmount personal debacles, but the wounded heart will be marked for life. 

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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2010, 08:26:43 PM »
You are really very smart "hubag", full of wisdom. I like the way your mind goes.



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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 02:54:29 AM »
And it's because circumstances are shifting and unpredictable that training and principles come into play. Sometimes, conscious deliberate choice is not an option. It can happen that one is not given the luxury of agonizing over a decision.

When I read this, I immediately thank God that I am not in a real life episode of 24 and I never have to kill someone for the better good. When you think about it, there are men and women out there fighting for our freedom, not just in the US but for the rest of the world as well and making "Jack Bauer Type" decisions that will probably haunt them for the rest of their lives.

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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 06:01:03 AM »
You are really very smart "hubag", full of wisdom. I like the way your mind goes.

Thanks. Ms. Wolf. But I'm not really smart. I'm just rather old. :)

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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2010, 06:47:40 AM »
Thanks. Ms. Wolf. But I'm not really smart. I'm just rather old. :)

shush ! you're not old, just really wise.  ;) Old sounds so negative.

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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 08:13:59 AM »
Thanks. Ms. Wolf. But I'm not really smart. I'm just rather old. :)

Forgive me but I disagree. Well, generally women hate talking about age, however, wisdom comes with age due to accumulated experiences, getting old is not just the number of years you live by, but, how you spent those years. It is not how long, but it is measured by prints you left behind that cannot be replaced by time.



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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2010, 09:53:04 AM »
shush ! you're not old, just really wise.  ;) Old sounds so negative.

Forgive me but I disagree. Well, generally women hate talking about age, however, wisdom comes with age due to accumulated experiences, getting old is not just the number of years you live by, but, how you spent those years. It is not how long, but it is measured by prints you left behind that cannot be replaced by time.


Thanks, ladies. (Or should I rather say, girls?) ;D

I am told that one may be silly in youth but should be solemn in age. Yet one could be a humorless adolescent, or a silly old fool. I regret being humorless when I was young; I hope I won't become silly when I'm old. ;D

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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2010, 09:55:54 AM »
Thanks, ladies. (Or should I rather say, girls?) ;D

I am told that one may be silly in youth but should be solemn in age. Yet one could be a humorless adolescent, or a silly old fool. I regret being humorless when I was young; I hope I won't become silly when I'm old. ;D

Girls lang, among Nanay mao toy Ladies!!!!

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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2010, 09:57:59 AM »
Thanks, ladies. (Or should I rather say, girls?) ;D

I am told that one may be silly in youth but should be solemn in age. Yet one could be a humorless adolescent, or a silly old fool. I regret being humorless when I was young; I hope I won't become silly when I'm old. ;D


Sa Tagalog pa: " Patandang Paurong"..hope not. Just keep the laughter alive no matter what LOL!

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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 10:20:48 AM »
Girls lang, among Nanay mao toy Ladies!!!!

He he, attagirl! ;D

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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2010, 10:23:05 AM »
Sa Tagalog pa: " Patandang Paurong"..hope not. Just keep the laughter alive no matter what LOL!

He he, mao jud. Matod pang Oscar Wilde: "Life is too important to be taken seriously." ;D

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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2010, 10:29:18 AM »
sugot ko girl...papugong ba sa edad...heheheh !

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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2010, 10:56:12 AM »
Thanks. Ms. Wolf. But I'm not really smart. I'm just rather old. :)

thus do i shudder at the possible breadth and depth of your wisdom when you positively, truly, do get old. :)



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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2010, 11:10:45 AM »
Sedit qui timuit ne non succederet
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and in one's revery, whilst sitting it out, one could utter as if in prayer:

                 forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit.
                          
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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2010, 12:13:50 PM »
and in one's revery, whilst sitting it out, one could utter as if in prayer:

                 forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit.
                           
                                                   -publius virgilius maro

And when times get rough and friends just can't be found, Ms. Isle, like a bridge over troubled water lay you down and do a latinate Shakespeare:

When, in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
And hiss out: "Populus me sibilat!"

Bwahaha! Sa Binisaya pa, "Bilatsyang ina!" ;D

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« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2010, 08:41:26 PM »
Sometimes, our deciions are painful, sometimes they were wrong at the start and turn out right in the end, sometimes we thought they were right and were yielding negative results in the end, sometimes in the process it will hurt or make people happy. The only thing that really matters is to stand brave in facing the consequences of our decisions and the willingness to repair the damages if there are any.

Indeed. That is what makes our decisions uniquely personal. In that aspect, we are the lords and directors of our decisions, whether we take that step or deign to withdraw for fear of doubt or for precautionary measures. Decisions are entirely left to the individual, if we are strong enough to make it for our own or if we be wise/pleaded to take an action by the intercession of a few or a many. In the end, the essence of a decision, the action of a decision, the finality of a decision leads us to the idea that we are the directors of our own lives. It is the unique epitome of the notion of 'Free Will'.

To some it seems simple; but in reality, it is quite existentialist.

The fact that you made a decision, made an act, followed through with a decision is eternal. It is proof that you existed in this universe, in this vast emptiness. You were, you are, you did, you had, you were...



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« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2010, 09:33:32 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2010, 10:16:41 PM »
Sounds good. But we have to remember that decisions are not discrete: they are connected to everthing else in our life, to who were are, to our sense of self-worth. Moods certainly make a difference, but moods should be subject to one's principles, and not vice versa. You cannot choose to be in a good mood while a murder is being committed and decide to just let the murderer have his way, just because you woke up to a decision to be in a good mood. Unless, of course, you're an utterly despicable human being...  

The positive side of life is not, I'm afraid, a matter of choosing the best mood to be in. The positive side of live is, I believe, living up to your principles, wherever these principles lead you, and in whatever mood they bring you there. Mood is simply the costume you wear to the carnival of life. Other people might mistake the costume for the person, but you ought to know better. And they should, too.

Knowing Bay Hubs, and his repertoire of repartees, he has apparently no choice but to be profound this time because everyone is jumping on this simple morning pep talk like they are being asked to react on a philosophical treatise.

Bitaw Bay, I am just amazed by your range of verbal persona--from binugoy to professorial. Still, I'm sure you exercise a choice to be which one for the occasion.

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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2010, 10:24:01 PM »
Thanks. Ms. Wolf. But I'm not really smart. I'm just rather old. :)

Pila naman diay ka Bay Hubs? As though you'd ever choose to answer!

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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2010, 11:08:03 PM »
Indeed. That is what makes our decisions uniquely personal. In that aspect, we are the lords and directors of our decisions, whether we take that step or deign to withdraw for fear of doubt or for precautionary measures. Decisions are entirely left to the individual, if we are strong enough to make it for our own or if we be wise/pleaded to take an action by the intercession of a few or a many. In the end, the essence of a decision, the action of a decision, the finality of a decision leads us to the idea that we are the directors of our own lives. It is the unique epitome of the notion of 'Free Will'.

To some it seems simple; but in reality, it is quite existentialist.

The fact that you made a decision, made an act, followed through with a decision is eternal. It is proof that you existed in this universe, in this vast emptiness. You were, you are, you did, you had, you were...



:)

Absolutely! It is so pathetic though, that some people blamed others for their misfortunes, forgetting the fact that, they, first and foremost decided the kind of life they are going to lead.

What we are today are results of our decisions in the past, what we were in the past were results of decisions the time before then, so on and so forth. It is an unending cycle. 


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« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2010, 12:29:32 AM »
Knowing Bay Hubs, and his repertoire of repartees, he has apparently no choice but to be profound this time because everyone is jumping on this simple morning pep talk like they are being asked to react on a philosophical treatise.

Bitaw Bay, I am just amazed by your range of verbal persona--from binugoy to professorial. Still, I'm sure you exercise a choice to be which one for the occasion.

He he, sugat-sugat lang ning ato, Bay Ben. Kon asa lang gud ta malingaw...



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« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2010, 12:49:58 AM »
Pila naman diay ka Bay Hubs? As though you'd ever choose to answer!

He he, I'm scheduled to be in Cebu and Bohol late this year, so kita nya ta puhon. By then you'll have settled in, so perhaps ikaw nay angay mosugyot kon asa ta mag-estambay... ;D

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« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2010, 03:04:11 AM »
Absolutely! It is so pathetic though, that some people blamed others for their misfortunes, forgetting the fact that, they, first and foremost decided the kind of life they are going to lead.

What we are today are results of our decisions in the past, what we were in the past were results of decisions the time before then, so on and so forth. It is an unending cycle. 


Quite true. There are very few absolute truths in life. Some of these are:

1. Our thoughts are ours, unless shared
2. Life is given, however, anyone has the ability to terminate his or her own life
3. Decisions are your own.
4. Death is guaranteed; the only difference is the manner and the time.


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« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2010, 03:09:14 AM »
Absolutely! It is so pathetic though, that some people blamed others for their misfortunes, forgetting the fact that, they, first and foremost decided the kind of life they are going to lead.

What we are today are results of our decisions in the past, what we were in the past were results of decisions the time before then, so on and so forth. It is an unending cycle. 


In my personal view, it is useless and a waste of energy to wonder and ponder about the 'what ifs' in life. Because those what ifs will always remain just that--what ifs. Hypothetical situations that could have been, but never/ failed to manifest. It is torture for oneself to spend excess time on those, and can only be to detrimental effect for the individual.

We live on the present, which dictates the course of the future.

What we decide on now will determine the future; the past's decisions have affected the present, but that does not mean that the future is dependent on the past. One's destiny lies on the action of the individual. I have always been a keen believer on an aggressive stance on life. If you want something, go get it. Because you know what...no one will give you anything in life; except free criticism. :)

If you want it, get it. Words into Action.



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« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2010, 04:32:08 AM »
Quite true. There are very few absolute truths in life. Some of these are:

1. Our thoughts are ours, unless shared
2. Life is given, however, anyone has the ability to terminate his or her own life
3. Decisions are your own.
4. Death is guaranteed; the only difference is the manner and the time.


And if I may add:
1)     What has been said, cannot be left unspoken
2)     Things we did cannot be undone
3)     We cannot change our relatives


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« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2010, 05:11:45 AM »
And if I may add:
1)     What has been said, cannot be left unspoken
2)     Things we did cannot be undone
3)     We cannot change our relatives


Love it!


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« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2010, 05:31:54 AM »
Excited na bitaw ko nga kulba-kulbaan pud. After being out of the country for two decades, some people say this decision is a bold leap of faith. Para di ta ma-OT ba, let me just say I made this decision a long time ago to be back home in my mid-40's and sought the opportunities to fulfill it. Gusto pud nako suwayan ang bag-ong career while still at my prime back home. I was even willing to settle for a teaching job at a local university, and it's just a bonus I'm being offered this opportunity by a Japanese company so close to home. I'll start my work on June 1. Sige, kita-kita ta pohon sa Cebu o Bohol ...

He he, I'm scheduled to be in Cebu and Bohol late this year, so kita nya ta puhon. By then you'll have settled in, so perhaps ikaw nay angay mosugyot kon asa ta mag-estambay... ;D

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« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2010, 06:38:22 AM »
not mean that the future is dependent on the past gikan ni kang Ondoy Bran

This is true but you could boldly face the future being equipped with the lessons from the past.

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« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2010, 07:53:51 AM »

3)     We cannot change our relatives


But we can always choose our friends. :-)

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« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2010, 07:56:16 AM »
not mean that the future is dependent on the past gikan ni kang Ondoy Bran

This is true but you could boldly face the future being equipped with the lessons from the past.

That's true.

Jose Rizal : Ang hindi tumingin sa pinanggalingan, hindi makakaroon sa paroroonan.

You can also interpret this in a different way.

Kung ikaw gastadur unya mag wonder ka nganong short ka at the end of the month...you only have to look back nganong na short ka. :-)

Kung ikaw suplada ka sa mga taw, unya sa panahon nga magkalisod, walay motabang nimo, motan-aw ka sa imong past nganong walay ganahan nimo.



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« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2010, 09:01:23 AM »
But we can always choose our friends. :-)

Seleccion para todos, por favor: It is essential that each of us have friends, but to each person--we must be wise in who we select as true friends, worthy of our secrets and lifelong friendships. For there are people who might appear friends, but will spurn one on the dime for their own personal entertainment, and to the reversal of your own.

I agree with this synergistic addition, Alc.

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In regards to the past equipping the future, we only take the lessons of the past as strength; charge to experience, so to say. The strong man can differentiate experience and utilize it as strength for motivational purposes; the weak individual is hounded and haunted by the past continuously...and becomes a slave to the past.

Again, the present dictates the future. And the subconscious mind of the individual. It is his mental prowess that guides the physical and allows the acquisition of the goal.

Which, of course, is in the best interest of attaining the prize in that certain decision-making process.


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« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2010, 12:19:05 PM »
In my personal view, it is useless and a waste of energy to wonder and ponder about the 'what ifs' in life. Because those what ifs will always remain just that--what ifs. Hypothetical situations that could have been, but never/ failed to manifest. It is torture for oneself to spend excess time on those, and can only be to detrimental effect for the individual.

A perfectly reasonable view indeed. But I can't help thinking that if our forebears refused to wonder about the "what ifs" of life, could we have reached the level of human development and sophistication that we enjoy today? Would we have religion, science, philosophy, art--or freedom? What do artists do best but dream? As Arthur Rimbaud extravagantly wrote: "Our ship towering in the motionless fog turns towards the port of poverty, the enormous city with a sky that’s flecked with fire and mud. Ah! The rotting rags; the bread soaked with rain, the drunkenness, the thousand loves that have crucified me!... Sometimes I see limitless beaches in the sky covered by white nations full of joy. A great golden vessel, above me, waves its multicoloured flags in the morning breeze...."

Dreamers may be ineffectual and unhappy and frustrated all their lives, but the energy that dreamers waste on "what ifs" provide sweetness and light to everyone, including those who, dictated by their astute calculations, wish to purge themselves of any trace of human frailty.

I confess to being lazy, to wasting a lot of time on "what ifs". I confess, too, that my flights of fancy never brought me fame or fortune, that if on a few occasions they ever stood me in good stead those were instances of no shining moment. Yet I insist on dreaming my life away. (In this regard, can it be that perhaps the Neanderthals became extinct because they didn't entertain the "what ifs" of life and instead concerned themselves only with the "here and now"?) 

Truly, my faith in reason is quite shaky.  But as George Bernard Shaw waggishly observed, "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

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« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2010, 02:52:04 PM »
I think there should be a good balance between both to move forward.

If we are not practical and reign ourselves in, we never get things done that would propel us forward.

If, on the other hand,  we are too obsessed with just dealing with the here and now and not ever entertain dreams, then we wouldn't have the drive nor persistence to achieve anything greater than what we've already got.

Thomas Edison failed more than a thousand times but persisted because he had a dream, and voila...we have the light bulb. To be more current, the inventor of Dyson vacuum cleaners was in Reader's Digest (or Playboy) recently and I read that it took him 10 years, financial struggle, etc  before achieving success.

A lot of people break under these circumstances and so they just stop dreaming. Some dont. But we need everyone to work as a society. We all have our niche's. Yours will always be different from mine... just part of the beauty of humanity !  8)

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« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2010, 06:47:51 PM »
Bisag-unsaon pa ninyo ang inyong mga "choices", ang ating kapalaran ay iginuhit na ng tadhana. ;)

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« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2010, 11:51:32 PM »
A perfectly reasonable view indeed. But I can't help thinking that if our forebears refused to wonder about the "what ifs" of life, could we have reached the level of human development and sophistication that we enjoy today? Would we have religion, science, philosophy, art--or freedom? What do artists do best but dream? As Arthur Rimbaud extravagantly wrote: "Our ship towering in the motionless fog turns towards the port of poverty, the enormous city with a sky that’s flecked with fire and mud. Ah! The rotting rags; the bread soaked with rain, the drunkenness, the thousand loves that have crucified me!... Sometimes I see limitless beaches in the sky covered by white nations full of joy. A great golden vessel, above me, waves its multicoloured flags in the morning breeze...."

Dreamers may be ineffectual and unhappy and frustrated all their lives, but the energy that dreamers waste on "what ifs" provide sweetness and light to everyone, including those who, dictated by their astute calculations, wish to purge themselves of any trace of human frailty.

I confess to being lazy, to wasting a lot of time on "what ifs". I confess, too, that my flights of fancy never brought me fame or fortune, that if on a few occasions they ever stood me in good stead those were instances of no shining moment. Yet I insist on dreaming my life away. (In this regard, can it be that perhaps the Neanderthals became extinct because they didn't entertain the "what ifs" of life and instead concerned themselves only with the "here and now"?) 

Truly, my faith in reason is quite shaky.  But as George Bernard Shaw waggishly observed, "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

:)

It was reason that brought light and democratic plurality that the great French political thinkers of the Great French Revolution such as Marat, Robespierre, Jacobins to exclaim: Liberté, égalité, fraternité!

The works of Voltaire, John Locke, Marat, Robespierre, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin etc were strengthened by the European Enlightenment, that brought Reason, Universality of Human Rights, Democracy, and Freedom from Monarchical Absolutism.

The great political thinkers claimed that revolution was reason; and claimed that the royal absolutists were unreasonable, living their dreams of aristocratic and oligarchic reverie, while the poor commoners in the Third Estate were left to pay taxes, burden the military cost, and submit themselves to absolutist control of the monarchy.

Human reason, which descends from Wisdom of the Most High and Intelligence that comes from the Holy Spirit, is what guides and directs the wise man to make a good Decision and allocate his resources to support that decision that he so fully believes in, in confidence and in Faith in Divine Understanding.

A wise decision leads to positive results; an unwise decision, will lead to doubts, and failure.

Hitler Dreamed of a Pure Third Reich ruled by Aryan Germans, and liquidated jews, homosexuals, slavs, communists, and dissenters, pro-democrats, and his decision lead to the purging of millions. His was a miserable unwise decision. That resulted in the collapse of the German Nation, and the deaths of millions.

There is a clear difference between wisdom, stupidity, dreams, fantasy, and lunacy.

Schizophrenic patients dream alot, and have lost contact with reality.
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« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2010, 11:54:06 PM »
I think there should be a good balance between both to move forward.

If we are not practical and reign ourselves in, we never get things done that would propel us forward.

If, on the other hand,  we are too obsessed with just dealing with the here and now and not ever entertain dreams, then we wouldn't have the drive nor persistence to achieve anything greater than what we've already got.

Thomas Edison failed more than a thousand times but persisted because he had a dream, and voila...we have the light bulb. To be more current, the inventor of Dyson vacuum cleaners was in Reader's Digest (or Playboy) recently and I read that it took him 10 years, financial struggle, etc  before achieving success.

A lot of people break under these circumstances and so they just stop dreaming. Some dont. But we need everyone to work as a society. We all have our niche's. Yours will always be different from mine... just part of the beauty of humanity !  8)

hehehe, this is an example of a wise woman. :)

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« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2010, 02:03:27 AM »
Bisag-unsaon pa ninyo ang inyong mga "choices", ang ating kapalaran ay iginuhit na ng tadhana. ;)
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« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2010, 02:41:23 AM »
How To Make The Right Choice:


1. Make the decision to let God be God

Proverbs 16
We can make our own plans, but the Lord gives the right answer.

2. Study the Word of God

2 Timothy 2:15
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

3. Surround yourself with people who are further along the journey

Corinthians 11:1
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ. (NIV)

2 Corinthians 1:3-5
God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort. He comforts us in all our troubles so that we can comfort others. When they are troubled, we will be able to give them the same comfort God has given us. For the more we suffer for Christ, the more God will shower us with his comfort through Christ. (NLT)


4. Never give up

Hebrews 12:1-3
And let us run with endurance the race God has set before us. We do this by keeping our eyes on Jesus, the champion who initiates and perfects our faith. Because of the joy awaiting him, he endured the cross, disregarding its shame. Now he is seated in the place of honor beside God’s throne. Think of all the hostility he endured from sinful people; then you won’t become weary and give up.


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« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2010, 05:32:14 AM »

“I can stand brute force, but brute reason is quite unbearable. There is something unfair about its use. It is hitting below the intellect.” --Oscar Wilde
 
Bwahaha! Brute reason and reasoning of a brute. Same difference. ;D



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« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2010, 05:47:06 AM »
“I can stand brute force, but brute reason is quite unbearable. There is something unfair about its use. It is hitting below the intellect.” --Oscar Wilde
 
Bwahaha! Brute reason and reasoning of a brute. Same difference. ;D



Yet brute force is a necessary evil as it is the only language that some people speak and understand. :-)

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« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2010, 08:25:40 AM »
Yet brute force is a necessary evil as it is the only language that some people speak and understand. :-)

To reason is to compromise and understand. The dreamer does not reason, he has lost all reality, rather, lives in his own dreams.

The beauty of reasoning is that it shows one's ability to make a discerned choice. 

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« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2010, 08:26:40 AM »
Yet brute force is a necessary evil as it is the only language that some people speak and understand. :-)

I like this statement.

Or in other words, fight fire with fire?

Ako pa, fight love with love. ;D

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« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2010, 09:07:05 AM »
Yet brute force is a necessary evil as it is the only language that some people speak and understand. :-)


In some cases are used as defense mechanism of the weak to fight the strong, and vice versa, weapon of the strong to make the weak weaker...

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« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2010, 08:29:24 PM »
It was reason that brought light and democratic plurality that the great French political thinkers of the Great French Revolution such as Marat, Robespierre, Jacobins to exclaim: Liberté, égalité, fraternité!

The works of Voltaire, John Locke, Marat, Robespierre, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin etc were strengthened by the European Enlightenment, that brought Reason, Universality of Human Rights, Democracy, and Freedom from Monarchical Absolutism.

The great political thinkers claimed that revolution was reason; and claimed that the royal absolutists were unreasonable, living their dreams of aristocratic and oligarchic reverie, while the poor commoners in the Third Estate were left to pay taxes, burden the military cost, and submit themselves to absolutist control of the monarchy.

Human reason, which descends from Wisdom of the Most High and Intelligence that comes from the Holy Spirit, is what guides and directs the wise man to make a good Decision and allocate his resources to support that decision that he so fully believes in, in confidence and in Faith in Divine Understanding.

A wise decision leads to positive results; an unwise decision, will lead to doubts, and failure.

Hitler Dreamed of a Pure Third Reich ruled by Aryan Germans, and liquidated jews, homosexuals, slavs, communists, and dissenters, pro-democrats, and his decision lead to the purging of millions. His was a miserable unwise decision. That resulted in the collapse of the German Nation, and the deaths of millions.

There is a clear difference between wisdom, stupidity, dreams, fantasy, and lunacy.

Schizophrenic patients dream alot, and have lost contact with reality.
:)

Cheers.

do you really know what it is you talk about, lorenzo?  it seems to me as if you missed the mark of what bai hubag is trying to say, like mistaking the forest for the trees.

i can only credit your youth, though sometimes, trying too hard to impress brings forth the stirrings not of a revolution in the league of the french one but the loss of contact with reality.

 

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« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2010, 08:51:35 PM »
And when times get rough and friends just can't be found, Ms. Isle, like a bridge over troubled water lay you down and do a latinate Shakespeare:

When, in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
And hiss out: "Populus me sibilat!"

Bwahaha! Sa Binisaya pa, "Bilatsyang ina!" ;D

sail on, silver boy, sail on boy, your time has come to shine, bai hubag.  i chose to err on the side of shakespeare's contemporary, john donne.

"Nobilibusque trahunt, a cincto corde, veneum, succis et gemmis, et qual generosa, mimistrant ars et natura instillant.

Whence we can take a better argument, a clearer demonstration, that all the greatness of this world is built upon opinion of others and hath in itself no real being nor power of subsistence, than from the heart of man?"

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« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2010, 09:17:25 PM »
sail on, silver boy, sail on boy, your time has come to shine, bai hubag.  i chose to err on the side of shakespeare's contemporary, john donne.

"Nobilibusque trahunt, a cincto corde, veneum, succis et gemmis, et qual generosa, mimistrant ars et natura instillant.

Whence we can take a better argument, a clearer demonstration, that all the greatness of this world is built upon opinion of others and hath in itself no real being nor power of subsistence, than from the heart of man?"

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Jus vocis civilas otens.


Bwahaha! You seem to be immersed in the study of the metaphysical poets, Ms. Isle. I wonder if you're familiar with George Herbert's The Temple: Sacred Poems and Private Ejaculations... ;D

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« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2010, 11:56:37 PM »
Bwahaha! You seem to be immersed in the study of the metaphysical poets, Ms. Isle. I wonder if you're familiar with George Herbert's The Temple: Sacred Poems and Private Ejaculations... ;D

i will get to that soon, bai hubs, silver boy, now that you've told me.  at the moment, i can settle for john hodgen:

He’s supposed to call his doctor, but for now he’s the May King with his own maypole.
He’s hallelujah. He’s glory hole. The world has more women than he can shake a stick
at. The world is his brickbat, no conscience to prick at, all of us Germans he can ich
liebe dich at. He’s Dick and Jane. He’s Citizen Kane. He’s Bob Dole.
He’s Peter the Great. He’s a tsar. He’s a clown car with an extra car.
Funiculì, Funiculà. He’s an organ donor. He works pro boner. He’s folderol.
He’s fiddlesticks. He’s the light left on at Motel 6. He’s free-for-alls.
He’s Viagra Falls. He’s bangers and mash. He’s balderdash. He’s a wanker.
He’s got his own anchor. He’s whack-a-doodle. King Canoodle. He’s a pirate, Long John
Silver, walking his own plank. He has science to thank. He’s in like Flynn. He’s Gunga Din,
holding his breath, cock of the walk through the valley of the shadow of death. He’s Icarus,
hickory dickerous, the mouse run up the clock. He’s shock and awe. He’s Arkansas.
He’s the package, the deal, the Good Housekeeping Seal. He’s Johnson & Johnson.
He’s a god now, the talk of the town. He’s got no place to go but down.

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« Reply #61 on: May 13, 2010, 12:33:47 AM »
do you really know what it is you talk about, lorenzo?  it seems to me as if you missed the mark of what bai hubag is trying to say, like mistaking the forest for the trees.

i can only credit your youth, though sometimes, trying too hard to impress brings forth the stirrings not of a revolution in the league of the french one but the loss of contact with reality.

 

On the contrary, it is all about reason. Hubag talks about his inability to reason or his disinclination in that, rather, defends the notion of dreams and dreaming, then again, that is his own personal choice, which is respectable by men such as I. There is nothing wrong with a dreamer, to dream is to live one's fantasy, as they say.

However, I merely implemented a medical addition; in that there are those who dream and never awake from their dreams; or perhaps i should change that to nightmare. Individuals who are schizophrenics or those who suffer from mental illness suffer from a loss of reality.

As for the inclusion of European Enlightenment, it merely illustrates my view that reason, is not a weakness, nor is it negative, rather has led to the development of societal advances, and undoubtedly contributed to the democratic pluralism that has taken hold of society at large (for the most part that is, he he). In regards to reason and choice; well, i must say that it is reason that allows us all to make an informed decision and choice in any matter.


Reason and truth both in the same playing field. My view. :)

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« Reply #62 on: May 13, 2010, 12:36:58 AM »
Yet brute force is a necessary evil as it is the only language that some people speak and understand. :-)


In some cases are used as defense mechanism of the weak to fight the strong, and vice versa, weapon of the strong to make the weak weaker...


Quite existentialist. This has the aura of Darwinian theory of evolution; the weak must make room for the strong.

Good addition, Wolf.

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« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2010, 12:52:51 AM »
Found this and really liked it.





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Another one: keep inspiring!





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« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2010, 01:00:53 AM »
Lets add some positivity in here. :)


Choices by: David Bancroft


So many choices one must make,
Walking down life's rocky road,
Starting with steps of innocence all take,
With loving parents, who bare the load,

Knowledge gained as one grows,
As the questions never end to learn more,
With the teen years going from highs to lows,
In the identity and self-independence war,

Then adulthood beckons with shoes or not,
As the walk going forth,
Leads to the climax of your plot,
Whether it be south or north,

Old age comes quickly once there,
Looking back for what could have been,
Pondering if all was fair,
While possibly stroking your chin.

A smile appears with watery eyes,
As your life ends its earthly stride,
Knowing the choices are all about when one dies,
Determining whether or not you sit at HIS side.

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« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2010, 08:46:57 PM »
On the contrary, it is all about reason. Hubag talks about his inability to reason or his disinclination in that, rather, defends the notion of dreams and dreaming, then again, that is his own personal choice, which is respectable by men such as I. There is nothing wrong with a dreamer, to dream is to live one's fantasy, as they say.

However, I merely implemented a medical addition; in that there are those who dream and never awake from their dreams; or perhaps i should change that to nightmare. Individuals who are schizophrenics or those who suffer from mental illness suffer from a loss of reality.

As for the inclusion of European Enlightenment, it merely illustrates my view that reason, is not a weakness, nor is it negative, rather has led to the development of societal advances, and undoubtedly contributed to the democratic pluralism that has taken hold of society at large (for the most part that is, he he). In regards to reason and choice; well, i must say that it is reason that allows us all to make an informed decision and choice in any matter.


Reason and truth both in the same playing field. My view. :)

“Reason is the slow and torturous method by which those who do not know the truth discover it”
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Cheers, Ms. Isles.


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and that, precisely, is what i mean by being off the mark, which makes me suspect that maybe, just maybe, you didn’t really get bai hubag’s drift.
  
you presumed hubag’s inability to reason, his disinclination to reason, and topped that pudding off with the cream of declaration that to dream is to live one’s fantasy, as if that is all there is to dreaming.

first, we’ve got to give it to hubag who might not be able to write that way if his reasoning were not acute.

second, dreaming in the context of hubag’s write-up is, in hyperbolic terms just so I could get my point across, in the league of world conquests.  conquerors dream of conquests and dream up and visualize strategies to win wars.  they don’t go to wars because of their brawns alone, much less because of their reason.  they go to wars because of their what-ifs.

to dream thus is also to invent, to devise.  great poets, philosophers, and scientists dreamed.  and changed the world.  no one can question their ability to reason beyond ordinary mortals.

the dreamers that bai hubag refers to actually have their reason intact.  this, one can derive by reading between his lines, which entails the reader to go beyond one’s self.  as for his statement about dreaming his life away, again, context, as it is obviously said tongue-in-cheek.      

after your presumptions (or should I say conclusions?) that hubag is far from reason, you go on to medical school to explain what extreme dreaming is and call on european enlightenment (because it was the age of reason?).  i as a reader felt like I bungee jumped without the ropes.

oh, martin luther’s “i have a dream…” is far from schizophrenic.  and we know his role in defining u.s. civil rights.

allow me please to go further, to your reply numbered 62 in this same thread.  you mention wolf’s post as existentialist, and then relate this to darwin’s theory of evolution.  what?  one has nothing to do with the other, so i was confused.  what, indeed, is existential about survival of the fittest when existentialism is all about denying that the universe has any built-in meaning or purpose and therefore individuals have to take responsibility in shaping their own destinies?  

what i’m trying to say here is that reading anything, like writing anything, needs contextualization and the proper grasp of concepts that one brandishes.  we have to go beyond the literal to be freed from the traps of the nuances of language.  

i have nothing against youth’s knowledge and understanding.  these are gifts to the world.  but there is such a thing as mental indigestion that only the passing of years can cure. even child musical prodigies practice themselves to greatness.   thankfully, the mistakes youth makes are corrected through the years.  often.
  
at 40, you may look back to when you were 20, and laugh.  knowledge needs to be placed in the context of life as it is lived.  and, like good wine, it takes time.  

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and that, precisely, is what i mean by being off the mark, which makes me suspect that maybe, just maybe, you didn’t really get bai hubag’s drift.
 
you presumed hubag’s inability to reason, his disinclination to reason, and topped that pudding off with the cream of declaration that to dream is to live one’s fantasy, as if that is all there is to dreaming.

first, we’ve got to give it to hubag who might not be able to write that way if his reasoning were not acute.

second, dreaming in the context of hubag’s write-up is, in hyperbolic terms just so I could get my point across, in the league of world conquests.  conquerors dream of conquests and dream up and visualize strategies to win wars.  they don’t go to wars because of their brawns alone, much less because of their reason.  they go to wars because of their what-ifs.

to dream thus is also to invent, to devise.  great poets, philosophers, and scientists dreamed.  and changed the world.  no one can question their ability to reason beyond ordinary mortals.

the dreamers that bai hubag refers to actually have their reason intact.  this, one can derive by reading between his lines, which entails the reader to go beyond one’s self.  as for his statement about dreaming his life away, again, context, as it is obviously said tongue-in-cheek.       

after your presumptions (or should I say conclusions?) that hubag is far from reason, you go on to medical school to explain what extreme dreaming is and call on european enlightenment (because it was the age of reason?).  i as a reader felt like I bungee jumped without the ropes.

oh, martin luther’s “i have a dream…” is far from schizophrenic.  and we know his role in defining u.s. civil rights.

allow me please to go further, to your reply numbered 62 in this same thread.  you mention wolf’s post as existentialist, and then relate this to darwin’s theory of evolution.  what?  one has nothing to do with the other, so i was confused.  what, indeed, is existential about survival of the fittest when existentialism is all about denying that the universe has any built-in meaning or purpose and therefore individuals have to take responsibility in shaping their own destinies? 

what i’m trying to say here is that reading anything, like writing anything, needs contextualization and the proper grasp of concepts that one brandishes.  we have to go beyond the literal to be freed from the traps of the nuances of language.   

i have nothing against youth’s knowledge and understanding.  these are gifts to the world.  but there is such a thing as mental indigestion that only the passing of years can cure. even child musical prodigies practice themselves to greatness.   thankfully, the mistakes youth makes are corrected through the years.  often.
 
at 40, you may look back to when you were 20, and laugh.  knowledge needs to be placed in the context of life as it is lived.  and, like good wine, it takes time.   

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Isles,

the definition of existentialism was perfected by  Søren Kierkegaard (father of existentialism) who said that it is the individual that is soley responsible for giving meaning to their life by defeating existential obstacles. Wolf's input about using force as a means to defeat an existential obstacle (ie, angst, despair, anger, boredom, mental or physical osbstacles). I think that existentialism can blend in with notion of survival of the fittest, as it can give a source of legitimacy for surviving obstacles, a sense of purpose so to say.

It is essential that you and others differentiate existentialism from nihilism as they both are distinct philosophies.
It is only recently when F. Nietsche linked both in existential nihilism that both philosophies have been unfairly linked together; when in reality, their philosophical tenets are different.

"Existentialists believe that one can create value and meaning, whilst nihilists will deny this."

In regards to Wolf's comment, I draw connection to his comment with the works of Austin Cline's "Evolutionary Theory and Existentialist Philosophy". It links both existentialism with the theory of evolution. Something outside the box.

~

On a side note (outside the frame of this discussion), I must say that i do agree with you that aged wine is indeed exquisite. I do prefer a nice bottle of Pinot Noir, aged 6 years of more; or chenin blanc, aged 9 years or over. What is your favorite?





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« Reply #68 on: May 13, 2010, 11:03:49 PM »
Isles,

the definition of existentialism was perfected by  Søren Kierkegaard (father of existentialism) who said that it is the individual that is soley responsible for giving meaning to their life by defeating existential obstacles. Wolf's input about using force as a means to defeat an existential obstacle (ie, angst, despair, anger, boredom, mental or physical osbstacles). I think that existentialism can blend in with notion of survival of the fittest, as it can give a source of legitimacy for surviving obstacles, a sense of purpose so to say.

It is essential that you and others differentiate existentialism from nihilism as they both are distinct philosophies.
It is only recently when F. Nietsche linked both in existential nihilism that both philosophies have been unfairly linked together; when in reality, their philosophical tenets are different.

"Existentialists believe that one can create value and meaning, whilst nihilists will deny this."

In regards to Wolf's comment, I draw connection to his comment with the works of Austin Cline's "Evolutionary Theory and Existentialist Philosophy". It links both existentialism with the theory of evolution. Something outside the box.

~

On a side note (outside the frame of this discussion), I must say that i do agree with you that aged wine is indeed exquisite. I do prefer a nice bottle of Pinot Noir, aged 6 years of more; or chenin blanc, aged 9 years or over. What is your favorite?





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lorenzo,

the way your mind works is truly awesome.  you don’t only miss the mark, you’re also cross-eyed.

our topic is the context of dreaming.  you zero in on one aspect like existentialism to prove what?  that you know something that any idiot can easily cut and paste from internet sources?  don’t steer the discussion to that which you can cut and paste (these are obvious because the syntax and grammar are different from your own lapses).
 
dear lorenz, you even give wise advice to me and others “to differentiate between nihilism and existentialism”!  goodness gracious.  here’s my own advice:  if you’re going to be a doctor, better start disciplining the way you think or, heaven forbid, you might treat a patient for syphilis when in fact he only has hemorrhoids.

okay, here’s something for your “outside the box” (shoe box?  manny pacquiao box?), cut and pasted as well:

Most existentialists have argued that we aren't born with a fixed human nature which forces us to act in certain ways and prevents us from acting in other ways. Instead, what we usually see as our "natures" is actually a product of our choices — sometimes even choices we don't realize we are making.

Thus, Darwinian evolution provides some scientific credibility in more than one way to the existentialist position that humans make themselves and remake themselves during their struggle to survive in their day-to-day lives. Not all existentialists are necessarily "staunch Darwinians," however. Although it would be a rare existentialist who rejected the truth of evolutionary theory, there are those who don't regard it as having any real bearing on their philosophy.  (emphasis mine)  

i’m sorry to say that even this claim is unimpressive as it is striking more as an affectation of the intellect, like muddling the waters to see the bottom or wearing high heels with the miniskirt to give the illusion of long legs.   besides, darwin’s theory remains that, a theory.

with all your religious posts here at tb, you now seem to lean on the side of agnosticism and atheism by calling on existentialism and nihilism.  how is that?

as for wine, my husband is the oenophile, not me.  to be honest, i hate his collection of vintage reds, some dom perignons, including a smattering of liquors like hennessys and single malt whiskies side by side with his cigars in humidors, the total cost of which to my simple mind is the cost of a car.  i must admit though that on rare occasions I go for simple good, old bailey’s and a mateus.   

awed at your mish-mash but glad that reading you brings out the nihilist in me,




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« Reply #69 on: May 14, 2010, 05:52:24 AM »

lorenzo,

the way your mind works is truly awesome.  you don’t only miss the mark, you’re also cross-eyed.

our topic is the context of dreaming.  you zero in on one aspect like existentialism to prove what?  that you know something that any idiot can easily cut and paste from internet sources?  don’t steer the discussion to that which you can cut and paste (these are obvious because the syntax and grammar are different from your own lapses).
 
dear lorenz, you even give wise advice to me and others “to differentiate between nihilism and existentialism”!  goodness gracious.  here’s my own advice:  if you’re going to be a doctor, better start disciplining the way you think or, heaven forbid, you might treat a patient for syphilis when in fact he only has hemorrhoids.

okay, here’s something for your “outside the box” (shoe box?  manny pacquiao box?), cut and pasted as well:

Most existentialists have argued that we aren't born with a fixed human nature which forces us to act in certain ways and prevents us from acting in other ways. Instead, what we usually see as our "natures" is actually a product of our choices — sometimes even choices we don't realize we are making.

Thus, Darwinian evolution provides some scientific credibility in more than one way to the existentialist position that humans make themselves and remake themselves during their struggle to survive in their day-to-day lives. Not all existentialists are necessarily "staunch Darwinians," however. Although it would be a rare existentialist who rejected the truth of evolutionary theory, there are those who don't regard it as having any real bearing on their philosophy.  (emphasis mine)  

i’m sorry to say that even this claim is unimpressive as it is striking more as an affectation of the intellect, like muddling the waters to see the bottom or wearing high heels with the miniskirt to give the illusion of long legs.   besides, darwin’s theory remains that, a theory.

with all your religious posts here at tb, you now seem to lean on the side of agnosticism and atheism by calling on existentialism and nihilism.  how is that?

as for wine, my husband is the oenophile, not me.  to be honest, i hate his collection of vintage reds, some dom perignons, including a smattering of liquors like hennessys and single malt whiskies side by side with his cigars in humidors, the total cost of which to my simple mind is the cost of a car.  i must admit though that on rare occasions I go for simple good, old bailey’s and a mateus.   

awed at your mish-mash but glad that reading you brings out the nihilist in me,




Hahaha, such vivid spirit you have my dear lady,

The context of dreaming never was mitigated by my posts, rather I showed respect to our dear Hubag's preference to dream, and i must say, admit really, that i admire the nonconformity.

Dearest, i merely found the beauty of wolf's post and provided my view of how it blends existentialism to the concept of the survival of the fittest, in reference to wolf's using of brute force as being a tool for the weak and the strong. Actually, i would credit Wolf for that beautiful post.

In regards to Existentialism in its relation to Darwinian Theory of Evolution, I rather find it interesting how it coalesces. I must also add that one's faith does not mean it should limit one to read about different concepts and philosophies. Afterall, that is the beauty of discernment. :)
Again, it goes back to the notion of choice. hehehe! (subject matter in mind, haha).

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Respecting your nihilism, but still keeping my youthful existentialist spirit,

Love you,
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ps. One can use differential diagnosis to rule out hemorrhoids from syphilis, but a discerned physician/intern will know that there are some STDs that have clinical symptoms of hemorroids, especially if the site of infection was in the anal canal, then can be easily mistaken for hemorrhoids. Since diagnosis does not rely solely on physical diagnosis (IPPA- inspection, palpation, percussion, auscultation), but rather lab diagnosis (PCR, gram stain, Lowenstein-Jensen, Maconkey's, DF, IF etc). And when the results are accumulated, would the proper choice to be made. In either case, RX for syphilis is : A) penicillin or 2nd -3rd generation Cephalosporins.  RX for hemorroids is non-invasive hemorrhoidectomy.

alternative to Syphilis RX: if patient is refractory to penicillin (due to allergy), then we would treat the patient with erythromycine + an adjuvant probenicid.






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« Reply #70 on: May 14, 2010, 06:16:43 AM »
"In every single thing you do, you are choosing a direction.
Your life is a product of choices."

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“When it snows, you have two choices: shovel or make snow angels”. --Author Unknown

I will always choose to make snow angels not because others are willing to shovel for me (and they do) but because I really love making snow angels.

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« Reply #72 on: May 14, 2010, 08:33:07 AM »
“When it snows, you have two choices: shovel or make snow angels”. --Author Unknown

I will always choose to make snow angels not because others are willing to shovel for me (and they do) but because I really love making snow angels.

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« Reply #73 on: May 14, 2010, 08:36:28 AM »
hahaha, then that makes two of us, Hubag. Sige, you make snow angels, and i'll make us a snow igloo.

Bwahaha, right. But then there you go. You're still the utilitarian one... ;D

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« Reply #74 on: May 14, 2010, 08:59:46 AM »
LOL! i cant help it, man. Fine, when im done the igloo, you can decorate it with snow angel faces. hahahaha!

Then when its done, we can let Ms. Isles inspect it. See if its stable ba. hahahahaha!



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« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2010, 10:18:37 AM »
LOL! i cant help it, man. Fine, when im done the igloo, you can decorate it with snow angel faces. hahahaha!

Then when its done, we can let Ms. Isles inspect it. See if its stable ba. hahahahaha!



glad to be back after a day or so, and to find myself flattered by my inclusion in your projects, as a building inspector to boot.

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« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2010, 10:42:58 AM »
Hahaha, such vivid spirit you have my dear lady,

The context of dreaming never was mitigated by my posts, rather I showed respect to our dear Hubag's preference to dream, and i must say, admit really, that i admire the nonconformity.

Dearest, i merely found the beauty of wolf's post and provided my view of how it blends existentialism to the concept of the survival of the fittest, in reference to wolf's using of brute force as being a tool for the weak and the strong. Actually, i would credit Wolf for that beautiful post.

In regards to Existentialism in its relation to Darwinian Theory of Evolution, I rather find it interesting how it coalesces. I must also add that one's faith does not mean it should limit one to read about different concepts and philosophies. Afterall, that is the beauty of discernment. :)
Again, it goes back to the notion of choice. hehehe! (subject matter in mind, haha).

``

One of my favorite Pinot Noir brands is Cono Sur (Chilean); the taste of red is rather unique to the California or French based due to the soil in Chile as well as the types of casks they use, the casks they use are old whiskey cherry wood casks. You can actually taste a hint of whiskey and the aroma of cherrywood via nasal discernment. One of my favorites.


Respecting your nihilism, but still keeping my youthful existentialist spirit,

Love you,
;)



ps. One can use differential diagnosis to rule out hemorrhoids from syphilis, but a discerned physician/intern will know that there are some STDs that have clinical symptoms of hemorroids, especially if the site of infection was in the anal canal, then can be easily mistaken for hemorrhoids. Since diagnosis does not rely solely on physical diagnosis (IPPA- inspection, palpation, percussion, auscultation), but rather lab diagnosis (PCR, gram stain, Lowenstein-Jensen, Maconkey's, DF, IF etc). And when the results are accumulated, would the proper choice to be made. In either case, RX for syphilis is : A) penicillin or 2nd -3rd generation Cephalosporins.  RX for hemorroids is non-invasive hemorrhoidectomy.

alternative to Syphilis RX: if patient is refractory to penicillin (due to allergy), then we would treat the patient with erythromycine + an adjuvant probenicid.




thanks for the compliment, but i have to point out that the phrase “vivid spirit” is clumsy and infelicitous.  distinct and intensely bright objects can be vivid; accounts, memories and imagination can be vivid; but “spirit” cannot be vivid.  choice of words is like choice of medication; choose the wrong word and you end up mangling your statement.  choose the wrong medication and you prove yourself and incompetent doctor.

so the “context of dreaming never was mitigated” by your posts.  (and thus you changed the topic rather than admit to something that might have changed your mind?)  my mistake.  i couldn’t help but comment on your earlier post claiming hubag’s disinclination to reason because he’d rather dwell on fantasy (quoted thus:  â€œhubag talks about his inability to reason or his disinclination in that, rather, defends the notion of dreams and dreaming…”).  such grand claims about other people’s opinions merit a few minutes’ attention of idiots such as i.    

“Quite existentialist.  This has the aura of Darwinian theory of evolution; the weak must make room for the strong.”

i am quoting from your earlier post your exact words on existentialism and evolution.  no doubt there are points of convergence between the two, but the idea of the weak making room for the strong doesn’t have anything existentialist about it at all.  for instance, the concept of “engaged freedom” which serves as one of the cornerstones of existentialist thought cannot, by any stretch of imagination―much less of reason―coalesce (your term) with the darwinian concept of “survival of the fittest”.

you seem to know your evolutionary theory, but perhaps you should read more existentialist literature.  i won’t suggest titles, since you can easily google them yourself.

after mastering your existentialism, you will probably find out that you don’t have to choose to be discerning, as you still apparently do now.

love ya, my dearest boy.  

i care, so please don’t imbibe too much of your favorite pinot noir while you copy from your medical books (or google) for this discerned sharing of yours.  the words may tumble out from the pages and come out as incomplete sentences, as your existential treatise on hemorrhoids and syphilis shows.  it doesn’t matter, of course.  what is important is you can start practicing your rx on yourself.  don’t worry, dearest of all dears, napoleon had hemorrhoids, nietzsche had syphilis.

which reminds me, you must also try lambanog from our country’s north.  the nearest that i can compare it to is the greek ouzo (which, to my husband’s dismay, i once half-filled a bottle with star anise to make ‘anisado wine’ for my tocino; it turned out great).  i tried lambanog once, long ago, and felt as if my ears fell off.  nothing can be more vivid a spirit worth imbibing than this one.      

keep on with your youthful existentialist spirit and your elementary understanding of existentialism, dearest, for as long as it keeps afloat your sense of self,




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meanwhile, i've got to say ta-ta for a week or so after today.  i have a duty to fulfill that i can't risk being delayed by wonderful distractions like tb.  see you in a week's time, folks.



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« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2010, 12:51:03 AM »
It is always an honor to discuss with a learned individual like yourself, Islander. I hope and pray that your duties are completed in haste and in proper decorum, as I would expect from a person of caliber such as yourself. Looking forward to your return.

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