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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2010, 03:44:33 PM »
Puede man unta to poungan ra ang mga sanga. morag upat gud to ka Acasia Tree nga galumbay doul sa wating shed nga maghatag ug landong sa mga pasahero nga mag atang ug Bus.

Usahay lagi sa subrang garbo ...wa na panumbalinga ang nature ug bili sa kahoy. Unta ilang pulihan tong nawala nga kahoy. Puede manang mga dako na nga kahoy itransplant.



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« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2010, 11:07:26 PM »
Sensya na ... karon lang ko nakalaag diri sa TB after a long, long time! 

I am just curious ... if Fe Piezas is not a doctor, ngano Dr. Piezas man ang tawag sa ijaha?  Basin nag masteral?

Thanks to whoever can clear this up?

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« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2010, 04:42:14 AM »
Dr Fe Anana Piezas is a certified  doctor and she practiced her profession in the USA, this is 100% truth.

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« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2010, 05:09:50 AM »
Puede man unta to poungan ra ang mga sanga. morag upat gud to ka Acasia Tree nga galumbay doul sa wating shed nga maghatag ug landong sa mga pasahero nga mag atang ug Bus.

Usahay lagi sa subrang garbo ...wa na panumbalinga ang nature ug bili sa kahoy. Unta ilang pulihan tong nawala nga kahoy. Puede manang mga dako na nga kahoy itransplant.


Sa cogon lagi pagama nila sa markado kay wala man lagi hilabti ang mga akasya..karon nindot pa hinoon kay maoy gahatag ug bugnaw sa isdaan section...

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« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2010, 04:58:39 PM »

d a ra ang injong gipanghambog na bag-ong merkado sa guindulman...naangay laman pirting wagtanga na nko..wah nko kabantay nga milabay ko aning merkadoha sa dihang mipauli nko sa akng yutang natawhan...nakuhaan kolng kini na picture sa dihang mibalik nmi paglarga kay nagcutting trip intwn mi..wlay mahimo kundi nagcge sil-ing sa maong merkado nga pirting inita intwn..looy kaU mga tricycle driver didto nlng nagpalandong sa nabilen usa ka punoan..ag kami nagpaatbang nlng og nanilong sa kto mga bag-ong tubong kahoy..hahaisst...d a ra ang injong gipasigarbo..  :o









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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2010, 05:15:55 PM »
salamat sa mga litrato Inday, iya kanang polihan kay aron dili siya kanunay masodya-an!

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« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2010, 05:52:13 PM »
salamat sa mga litrato Inday, iya kanang polihan kay aron dili siya.

hehhe..your welcome manay..maojud....dapat lngjud..

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« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2010, 07:11:38 PM »
Wa man lagi lami.

Ang design cubical which is not appropriate for public market. Ang public market should be an open place with less walls and more stalls so buyers could move around freely. There should be lots of free space for vendors to post their advertisements and banners and it should be visible for the public from all corners. A market should only be at ground level with high roofing for better ventilation, contrary to the mayors claim of a multi storey building.  

Sa iyang design walay ventilation. Dili lusot lusot ang hangin ug mag kinahanglan pa kini ug air-conditioning units, which is again a burden of the town.

Wake up kung kinsa ang nag suggest ani nga market. We are not in the northern hemisphere but in a tropical country.

Kung ako ang pa designon ug public market, it should look like a dome with no walls around so the cool breeze from the sea and natural light could come in, minimizing the use of electricity.

This is not a practical design for a public market. After all unsa man ang purpose sa building, comfort to the eye or comfort to the shopping public. This design could give more favor to big entrepreneurs nga dunay ika rent sa pwesto, driving away small vendors who can only afford a square meter of space.

Unsa man ang mga facilities ani nga merkado? Kung kalibangon ta, duna bay hinlo nga kasilyas? Mao man ni ang importante.

Also, duna ba kini "Waste Disposal System (solid or liquid)" asa man paingon ang waste water ani nga mercado? Sa akong pag too diretso sa dagat as pollutant. Naa ba ni water treatment or septic tank before disposing the water to the sea?

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« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2010, 10:03:29 PM »
Wa man lagi lami.

Ang design cubical which is not appropriate for public market. Ang public market should be an open place with less walls and more stalls so buyers could move around freely. There should be lots of free space for vendors to post their advertisements and banners and it should be visible for the public from all corners. A market should only be at ground level with high roofing for better ventilation, contrary to the mayors claim of a multi storey building. 

Sa iyang design walay ventilation. Dili lusot lusot ang hangin ug mag kinahanglan pa kini ug air-conditioning units, which is again a burden of the town.

Wake up kung kinsa ang nag suggest ani nga market. We are not in the northern hemisphere but in a tropical country.

Kung ako ang pa designon ug public market, it should look like a dome with no walls around so the cool breeze from the sea and natural light could come in, minimizing the use of electricity.

This is not a practical design for a public market. After all unsa man ang purpose sa building, comfort to the eye or comfort to the shopping public. This design could give more favor to big entrepreneurs nga dunay ika rent sa pwesto, driving away small vendors who can only afford a square meter of space.

Unsa man ang mga facilities ani nga merkado? Kung kalibangon ta, duna bay hinlo nga kasilyas? Mao man ni ang importante.

Also, duna ba kini "Waste Disposal System (solid or liquid)" asa man paingon ang waste water ani nga mercado? Sa akong pag too diretso sa dagat as pollutant. Naa ba ni water treatment or septic tank before disposing the water to the sea?

spot on macky. palihug kunog tubag ani be? ang among merkado diri sa akong gipuy-ang siyudad diri sa UK maot kaayo ikumpara diha anang merkadoha, but so what? ang giadto nako mao ang pagkabarato ug pagka-presko sa gibaligya dili ang merkado.

ang merkado sa una, para nako, may juy kinasaktuhan. sama pananglitan sa Baclayon, open space unya multi-purpose. i know maot ang sa Baclayon, pero sa pagka-practical ug maintenance costs, unsa may ikasaway?

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« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2010, 10:12:19 PM »
it is too bad that she is A STUPID DIPLOMAT!!!!!!!!!

SHE IS NOTHING IF SHE DIDNT GET HER DIPLOMA!

I DONT CARE IF SHE IS  A MILLIONAIRE!

SHE IS JUST A STUPID DOCTOR!!!!!


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« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2010, 10:18:16 PM »
Wa man lagi lami.

Ang design cubical which is not appropriate for public market. Ang public market should be an open place with less walls and more stalls so buyers could move around freely. There should be lots of free space for vendors to post their advertisements and banners and it should be visible for the public from all corners. A market should only be at ground level with high roofing for better ventilation, contrary to the mayors claim of a multi storey building. 

Sa iyang design walay ventilation. Dili lusot lusot ang hangin ug mag kinahanglan pa kini ug air-conditioning units, which is again a burden of the town.

Wake up kung kinsa ang nag suggest ani nga market. We are not in the northern hemisphere but in a tropical country.

Kung ako ang pa designon ug public market, it should look like a dome with no walls around so the cool breeze from the sea and natural light could come in, minimizing the use of electricity.

This is not a practical design for a public market. After all unsa man ang purpose sa building, comfort to the eye or comfort to the shopping public. This design could give more favor to big entrepreneurs nga dunay ika rent sa pwesto, driving away small vendors who can only afford a square meter of space.

Unsa man ang mga facilities ani nga merkado? Kung kalibangon ta, duna bay hinlo nga kasilyas? Mao man ni ang importante.

Also, duna ba kini "Waste Disposal System (solid or liquid)" asa man paingon ang waste water ani nga mercado? Sa akong pag too diretso sa dagat as pollutant. Naa ba ni water treatment or septic tank before disposing the water to the sea?


mao ni karon dakong pangutana!!!

daw beh, ipatubag nato ni sa Mayor, kay improvement man kaha ija tujo!


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« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2010, 10:38:30 PM »
it is too bad that she is A STUPID DIPLOMAT!!!!!!!!!

SHE IS NOTHING IF SHE DIDNT GET HER DIPLOMA!

I DONT CARE IF SHE IS  A MILLIONAIRE!

WE HAVE MONEY TOO BUT NO ONE CARES!

SHE IS JUST A STUPID DOCTOR!!!!!


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« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2010, 10:46:36 PM »
spot on macky. palihug kunog tubag ani be? ang among merkado diri sa akong gipuy-ang siyudad diri sa UK maot kaayo ikumpara diha anang merkadoha, but so what? ang giadto nako mao ang pagkabarato ug pagka-presko sa gibaligya dili ang merkado.

ang merkado sa una, para nako, may juy kinasaktuhan. sama pananglitan sa Baclayon, open space unya multi-purpose. i know maot ang sa Baclayon, pero sa pagka-practical ug maintenance costs, unsa may ikasaway?

Sakto ka Jig because a market does not need a sophisticated building. Remember, trading was born on the rugged terrain of the 'Silk Route' and on the rough seas of the 'spice route'. People defy dangerous elements for the sake of better value.

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« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2010, 11:03:25 PM »
Sakto ka Jig because a market does not need a sophisticated building. Remember, trading was born on the rugged terrain of the 'Silk Route' and on the rough seas of the 'spice route'. People defy dangerous elements for the sake of better value.

ngita ta kog picture sa among city market diri pero wa ko kita, ing-ana jud ka maot siguro :)

our city market is described as an open covered general retail market. and the emphasis is on value for money. barato pa jud kaayo ikumpara sa naa sa supermarket.

kasagaran mga city or town markets diri nga naadto-an na nako, traditional ug simple ra kaayo ang structure. ug di ka kita ug mga pagarpar nga signs like 'thru the efforts of Mayor so and so blah di blah di blah'... and I live in a first world country! how ironic...

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« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2010, 01:03:48 AM »
d a ra ang injong gipanghambog na bag-ong merkado sa guindulman...naangay laman pirting wagtanga na nko..wah nko kabantay nga milabay ko aning merkadoha sa dihang mipauli nko sa akng yutang natawhan...nakuhaan kolng kini na picture sa dihang mibalik nmi paglarga kay nagcutting trip intwn mi..wlay mahimo kundi nagcge sil-ing sa maong merkado nga pirting inita intwn..looy kaU mga tricycle driver didto nlng nagpalandong sa nabilen usa ka punoan..ag kami nagpaatbang nlng og nanilong sa kto mga bag-ong tubong kahoy..hahaisst...d a ra ang injong gipasigarbo..  :o









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Apil sab ko ninyo deri ug tampo sa akong opinyon kabahin aning Merkado sa Guindulman. Mura ug kini man seguro ang "hot topic deri sa TB.

Base sa litrato nga gi-post, the concept and criteria of the design of the Public Market is similar to a typical Commercial Shopping Mall, which is neat, modern and nice looking structures in fairness. But the disadvantages are the operating and maintenance cost which will be so high.
The most expensive maybe is the operation cost like electricity to run the centralized air-conditioning system (hope it has one) and to generate power needed for the building. Kani mga operating/maintenance cost ipasa ni sa mga tenants sa maong public market.Then of course kaning mga small business/tenants ipasa sab nila kaning ilang overhead cost sa mga consumers. Which I guess 80% to 90% mga taga-Guindulman.

Mao nga ang bottom line ani, mahal ang pamaliton ani nga public market. Example lang sa Manila, ang mga balig-ya sa shopping mall mahal kaayo kumpara sa Divisoria market.

Mura ra pud ni akong opinyon.
  


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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2010, 05:34:47 AM »
Bob, sakto ka sa imong gisulti. Ang mga tawo sa Guindulman nag salig rapod sa padala sa mga partido nga tua sa gawas.

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« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2010, 06:48:03 AM »
bitaw sa kahulihulihan sa mga OFW parin ang bagsak....kalooy pud nato...

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« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2010, 05:50:31 PM »
Mga Sano ug Sana,
Apil sab ko ninyo deri ug tampo sa akong opinyon kabahin aning Merkado sa Guindulman. Mura ug kini man seguro ang "hot topic deri sa TB.

Base sa litrato nga gi-post, the concept and criteria of the design of the Public Market is similar to a typical Commercial Shopping Mall, which is neat, modern and nice looking structures in fairness. But the disadvantages are the operating and maintenance cost which will be so high.
The most expensive maybe is the operation cost like electricity to run the centralized air-conditioning system (hope it has one) and to generate power needed for the building. Kani mga operating/maintenance cost ipasa ni sa mga tenants sa maong public market.Then of course kaning mga small business/tenants ipasa sab nila kaning ilang overhead cost sa mga consumers. Which I guess 80% to 90% mga taga-Guindulman.

Mao nga ang bottom line ani, mahal ang pamaliton ani nga public market. Example lang sa Manila, ang mga balig-ya sa shopping mall mahal kaayo kumpara sa Divisoria market.

Mura ra pud ni akong opinyon.
  


Daghang salamat Engr. Bob sa imong tampo.

Ako bitaw ni nga gi share nga topic sa among grupo sa PICE Eastern Province ug ang ilang sugyot sa pinaka the best design is dome or pyramid shaped skeletal design using I-beams & tension wire. Kini nga design is using less materials & cost compared to reinforced concrete one. The dome shape will also ensure stability and has aerodynamic properties incase of typhoon. the cover of the dome will be light PVC which is also durable and cheap.

Ako pod ni gi share sa among adviser nga si Illac Diaz para iyang suggestions since he is an advocate of using indigenous local material para minos gastos.

Since natukod naman ni, hinaut nga sa future projects sa Bohol, mo gamit ug initiative ang atong mga engineers diha sa Bohol for cheaper alternatives. Dili kay pataka lang ug gastos basta may budget.

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« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2010, 11:08:16 PM »
Mga Sano ug Sana,
Apil sab ko ninyo deri ug tampo sa akong opinyon kabahin aning Merkado sa Guindulman. Mura ug kini man seguro ang "hot topic deri sa TB.

Base sa litrato nga gi-post, the concept and criteria of the design of the Public Market is similar to a typical Commercial Shopping Mall, which is neat, modern and nice looking structures in fairness. But the disadvantages are the operating and maintenance cost which will be so high.
The most expensive maybe is the operation cost like electricity to run the centralized air-conditioning system (hope it has one) and to generate power needed for the building. Kani mga operating/maintenance cost ipasa ni sa mga tenants sa maong public market.Then of course kaning mga small business/tenants ipasa sab nila kaning ilang overhead cost sa mga consumers. Which I guess 80% to 90% mga taga-Guindulman.

Mao nga ang bottom line ani, mahal ang pamaliton ani nga public market. Example lang sa Manila, ang mga balig-ya sa shopping mall mahal kaayo kumpara sa Divisoria market.

Mura ra pud ni akong opinyon.
   




Una sa tanan, kumusta naman ka Bob?

ikaduha sa tanan, namuot ko sa imong tulay Bob nga wa mag takdo! hahahahha!

ikatulo sa tanan, unsakto jud na imong gi sulti, hinaut mabasahan ni sa uban nga nag plano mag tukold ug PALENGKE!

ang palengke ni Piezas gi design para sa tugnaw nga nasud! Pastilan! giputol pa ang kahoy gi huot pa jud ang mga tindahan!

unsa na kahay i ginhawa sa mga tawo ana?

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« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2010, 01:51:21 AM »
WOW! Bongga....

Unsa man ang financing ani? Grant or Loan?

Scary, how a small town can pay for the amortization of this market? Well, if the stalls will be fully occupied, then there will be no problem meeting the financial requirements. Assuming there are vendors, are there buyers too?  Considering the economy in Guindulman, I doubt if the people has that spending capabilities like the big city.

I don’t want to sound presumptuous (forgive me) but , I can’t help thinking that  right now we can see a WHITE ELEPHANT on the making in the heart of Guindulman. Another administrative blunder should I say. Tssskk.

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« Reply #61 on: May 27, 2010, 04:51:04 AM »
Sakto jud ning pulong nga white elephant. Leasing a stall is so expensive just to think of overhead expenses. Kon nia ko sa Tagbi, anha man ko mamalengke sa gawas, kanang gagmay nga tindahan ang akong palitan. Ganahan sab ko ug tabo, Martes ug Biyernes kay barato ang saging sarabya.

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« Reply #62 on: May 27, 2010, 05:38:44 AM »
Sakto jud ning pulong nga white elephant. Leasing a stall is so expensive just to think of overhead expenses. Kon nia ko sa Tagbi, anha man ko mamalengke sa gawas, kanang gagmay nga tindahan ang akong palitan. Ganahan sab ko ug tabo, Martes ug Biyernes kay barato ang saging sarabya.

Mao pod mi, anha mi sa Mangga kada hapon mangatang og isda kay mas barato kay sa supermarket, tapos presko pa gyud.




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« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2010, 10:51:17 AM »


Una sa tanan, kumusta naman ka Bob?

ikaduha sa tanan, namuot ko sa imong tulay Bob nga wa mag takdo! hahahahha!

ikatulo sa tanan, unsakto jud na imong gi sulti, hinaut mabasahan ni sa uban nga nag plano mag tukold ug PALENGKE!

ang palengke ni Piezas gi design para sa tugnaw nga nasud! Pastilan! giputol pa ang kahoy gi huot pa jud ang mga tindahan!

unsa na kahay i ginhawa sa mga tawo ana?

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« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2010, 01:13:59 AM »
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Ang BANGHAG bow! ;D

Bob, mag sigi ko agik-ik sa imong tulay kay kani among pagka byahedor, na picture nako nga nag palami mi ug paturatoy sa tulay unya ning kalit ug liko kay gi sumpay ang mga wa nag TAKDO!!! hahahahhaha!

haaaay! di maajo magutman ang mga engineers kay MAPIKAS ang kalibutan!

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« Reply #65 on: May 28, 2010, 11:11:48 AM »
Everyone has his or her opinions on lots of things and issues.

And each leader has his or her own way of leading group of people or community based on financial resources, current political aura, personal life experiences and community needs. This mayor is given the authority to decide lots of things being an elected official (if you have a problem with her winning stint, then blame it to the people who gave her good votes) and she should make decisions on lots of things.

There are so many ways in killing a cockroach like there are so many ways to lead our town or decide how this market would look like as its end result.

As long as at the end of the day, the Mayor is doing what is good for the town / community, that is what she is elected for. I have no problem her building this market as long as everything is LEGAL, then she has my approval, period.

I only have a problem with those people who open their mouths saying they can do better but have not proven to actually had done things to reflect what they are saying. I also have problems with those who are running for elected offices trying to get what the governements can do for them like monthly salaries town and baranggay officials, instead of thinking what they can do for the people they are serving or their country or community.

You should have your personal resources already on board that can sustain your life as a public servant or elected public official. Because commitment and voluntary public service is what these work is all about. If you do not have enough personal resources, then leave public office and work somewhere else to make a living other than extracting money from people's money being a public official.

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« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2010, 06:16:27 PM »
Everyone has his or her opinions on lots of things and issues.

And each leader has his or her own way of leading group of people or community based on financial resources, current political aura, personal life experiences and community needs. This mayor is given the authority to decide lots of things being an elected official (if you have a problem with her winning stint, then blame it to the people who gave her good votes) and she should make decisions on lots of things.

There are so many ways in killing a cockroach like there are so many ways to lead our town or decide how this market would look like as its end result.

As long as at the end of the day, the Mayor is doing what is good for the town / community, that is what she is elected for. I have no problem her building this market as long as everything is LEGAL, then she has my approval, period.

I only have a problem with those people who open their mouths saying they can do better but have not proven to actually had done things to reflect what they are saying. I also have problems with those who are running for elected offices trying to get what the governements can do for them like monthly salaries town and baranggay officials, instead of thinking what they can do for the people they are serving or their country or community.

You should have your personal resources already on board that can sustain your life as a public servant or elected public official. Because commitment and voluntary public service is what these work is all about. If you do not have enough personal resources, then leave public office and work somewhere else to make a living other than extracting money from people's money being a public official.

Ouch!

But naaaah, I am here to stir things up a bit and not to kiss ass, especially if it's the politician kind. I would rather "be a thorn on the side to afflict the comfortable."

Yes, I AM A NOBODY but that does not deter me from writing my thoughts in this forum. We are a democracy, remember? I can criticise whomever and whatever needs to. You would not want to suppress that, would you BIG BROTHER?

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« Reply #67 on: May 28, 2010, 06:56:44 PM »
Yes, you can criticize somebody and expect some people to defend what is right or whoever is doing good and that is just a given.

Yes, you can say whatever you want and at the end of discussion, it boils down to this: it is my right to express my opinions. Duh, it's an old story. I believe in that since it's true but is an old blah (sort of an excuse for trying to hurt somebody).

I still believe that people can defend other people esp. if they are doing the right thing or doing something good for the community or placing things in correct perspectives. Like you know, fair is fair.

I hope you guys post something that is fair and square because people know better even if they are not responding.  Please do yourself and your townmates a favor. 

Just make sure that when you state your opinions, they are way too strong to be toppled down. Otherwise, you are just wasting your time and of others'.   

Nobody wants to suppress your right to express your opinions but expect people to respond to them to wake you up. And you know that already. You are such a waste of time if that is the case.

You can suggest better ideas and proposals and do them actually yourself with your bare hands, and not just trying to be a pain in the neck. That will be appreciated. Or perhaps you start a community project that will help this community. 



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« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2010, 07:13:46 PM »
Yes, you can criticize somebody and expect some people to defend what is right or whoever is doing good and that is just a given.

Yes, you can say whatever you want and at the end of discussion, it boils down to this: it is my right to express my opinions. Duh, it's an old story. I believe in that since it's true but is an old blah (sort of an excuse for trying to hurt somebody).

I still believe that people can defend other people esp. if they are doing the right thing or doing something good for the community or placing things in correct perspectives. Like you know, fair is fair.

I hope you guys post something that is fair and square because people know better even if they are not responding.  Please do yourself and your townmates a favor. 

Just make sure that when you state your opinions, they are way too strong to be toppled down. Otherwise, you are just wasting your time and of others'.   

Nobody wants to suppress your right to express your opinions but expect people to respond to them to wake you up. And you know that already. You are such a waste of time if that is the case.

You can suggest better ideas and proposals and do them actually yourself with your bare hands, and not just trying to be a pain in the neck. That will be appreciated. Or perhaps you start a community project that will help this community. 



so, you think you know better, eh? the onus is on you to impress us with what you've done for the betterment of humankind. why? you're the one with the holier than thou posts here.

methinks i continue to post what i want to. i have met some kindred souls here who would agree and disagree with me at the same time.

waste people's time? that's a point of view if you ask me.

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« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2010, 07:27:14 PM »
I have no problem her building this market as long as everything is LEGAL, then she has my approval, period.

It is short-sighted and dangerous to constitute legality as the sole criterion in assessing the actuations of a leader.

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« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2010, 07:30:44 PM »
Ouch!

But naaaah, I am here to stir things up a bit and not to kiss ass, especially if it's the politician kind. I would rather "be a thorn on the side to afflict the comfortable."

Yes, I AM A NOBODY but that does not deter me from writing my thoughts in this forum. We are a democracy, remember? I can criticise whomever and whatever needs to. You would not want to suppress that, would you BIG BROTHER?

Everyone has his or her opinions on lots of things and issues.

And each leader has his or her own way of leading group of people or community based on financial resources, current political aura, personal life experiences and community needs. This mayor is given the authority to decide lots of things being an elected official (if you have a problem with her winning stint, then blame it to the people who gave her good votes) and she should make decisions on lots of things.

There are so many ways in killing a cockroach like there are so many ways to lead our town or decide how this market would look like as its end result.

As long as at the end of the day, the Mayor is doing what is good for the town / community, that is what she is elected for. I have no problem her building this market as long as everything is LEGAL, then she has my approval, period.

I only have a problem with those people who open their mouths saying they can do better but have not proven to actually had done things to reflect what they are saying. I also have problems with those who are running for elected offices trying to get what the governements can do for them like monthly salaries town and baranggay officials, instead of thinking what they can do for the people they are serving or their country or community.

You should have your personal resources already on board that can sustain your life as a public servant or elected public official. Because commitment and voluntary public service is what these work is all about. If you do not have enough personal resources, then leave public office and work somewhere else to make a living other than extracting money from people's money being a public official.

I see, a new guideline to run for public office, rich and able! Hmmmm...interesting.


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« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2010, 07:33:40 PM »
I see, a new guideline to run for public office, rich and able! Hmmmm...interesting.


yes wolf, and it carries the slogan VOX PECUNIAE, VOX DEI (The voice of Money is the voice of God)

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« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2010, 09:47:57 PM »
yes wolf, and it carries the slogan VOX PECUNIAE, VOX DEI (The voice of Money is the voice of God)

Wow, gone is "Vox Populi, Vox Dei, the voice of the people is the voice of God. Admittedly, there was a dramatic alteration/transformation in the real meaning of leadership and power.

Too sad, not only our natural resources are denuded but also the morals of our people. To add more insult, we are known as deeply religious.  Hypocrites abound, what else I can say.


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« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2010, 05:14:08 AM »
Wow, gone is "Vox Populi, Vox Dei, the voice of the people is the voice of God. Admittedly, there was a dramatic alteration/transformation in the real meaning of leadership and power.

Too sad, not only our natural resources are denuded but also the morals of our people. To add more insult, we are known as deeply religious.  Hypocrites abound, what else I can say.


How sad if this case proves to be that of a place being lorded over by rich and ambitious hypocrites who, to add insult to injury, enjoy the support of incompetent sycophants.

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« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2010, 05:20:06 AM »
The poor can run for office but they have to stay poor or whatever financial capability they were in (or personal income from businesses they started) prior to running for an office or career that they choose other than being a public official.

When public officials start to get rich, you know that there is a chance that they are stealing funds from the people and government treasury. They are liable and be jailed if found guilty, plain and simple. Somebody should be jailed already by now to teach these corrupt public officials big lessons. That is plain logic.

If you are rich already and would like to run for a public office, then maybe that is much better. You just have to disclose your assets and money so you will not be accused of stealing prior to serving a public office. Maybe this is a good rule, no problem. You have the money and leave the people's money alone to important community projects and important government transactions.

Public servants are not supposed to be rich while they are in power. The job is voluntary and they should not be compensated. It becomes a problem if the poor public servant becomes rich from stealing public funds and illegal briberies.

Watch out. You might be taking these points out of context. As long as you do not steal money for your daily needs living on your income with your career or whatever financially stability you are in and get rich from stealing people's money, that is always the rule.

Stop being narrow - minded folks and do not twist opinions around making such good opinions look bad. That is wrong and you should not do that to anyone. That is plain outrageous.

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« Reply #75 on: May 29, 2010, 05:25:21 AM »
yes wolf, and it carries the slogan VOX PECUNIAE, VOX DEI (The voice of Money is the voice of God)

Your interpretation is totally wrong and out of context. If you have nothing better to do but to create some confusion, chaos or bad arguments, people should leave you alone.

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« Reply #76 on: May 29, 2010, 05:28:57 AM »
Your interpretation is totally wrong and out of context. If you have nothing better to do but to create some confusion, chaos or bad arguments, people should leave you alone.

your choice, mate. so far, nobody have given me the 'deaf' treatment.

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« Reply #77 on: May 29, 2010, 05:31:09 AM »
your choice, mate. so far, nobody have given me the deaf treatment.

No worries, I will and I will leave you alone. That is a promise.

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« Reply #78 on: May 29, 2010, 05:40:07 AM »
No worries, I will and I will leave you alone. That is a promise.

You obviously have substance. I hope you will share it to us here in the forum. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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« Reply #79 on: May 29, 2010, 10:54:58 PM »
How sad if this case proves to be that of a place being lorded over by rich and ambitious hypocrites who, to add insult to injury, enjoy the support of incompetent sycophants.

what a state to be in.  in the world of incompetents, the sycophant is king?


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