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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2010, 10:33:25 PM »

unya, kun matagak ka gikan sa bintana sa bag-ong merkado, piskay pod?  sugot na lang kog matagakan ug kahoy (bisan hampasabol kay ngano god intawong moagi man ko ilawom sa kahoy kun nagbagyo) kay sa matagakan kog hollow block.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2010, 10:38:38 PM »

come on, pangutana pangutana ka pa.  mora man hinoon kag nangitag lobot.

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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2010, 10:57:54 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2010, 10:59:50 PM »
whhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ;D

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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2010, 11:01:43 PM »
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Lombog, iga-id kaha tika anang kahoy dayun paasohan?

ug wa ka maluoy anang mga kahoy nga gipangputol sa Guindulman, asa man imong konsiyensya???

makasabut ra sad ko nganong kana rang PULONGA imong nakita kay diha sa imong lugar ginadili man na sa inyo ug asa na dapit sa mid east na inyu.

wa sad kahoy diha mao nga wa ka mobati sa among gibati!!!


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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2010, 03:13:13 AM »
Ajaw na mo pag-away og paglalis to the point of attacking each other kay di na pod maajo (unbecoming napod of decent human beings... I'm acting as your angel advocate this time, kay at one time I lost my cool, too, toward you know who, hehehe). Puros baya mo adunay mga point(s) depending kung unsang perspective. Usa pa, kung duna may krimen o sala nahimo against sa kahoy, dili man mo ang perpetrators ani, but some irresponsible people in Guildulman (Mayor & co). Mga chatters man lang mo nga nag diskusyon og nag timbang-timbang kung unsay sakto, sayop, maayo o dili maayo. Ayaw na lang pag tumo2x kay puros ra jud na tumo2x (speculative at best) kining atong tagna-tagna kung taga dis-a ning mga chatters deri... kay wa jud tay kasinatian kung asa gikan ning mga ideya nga mahipatik dinhi sa TB.

Sa tan-aw nako sa hulagway sa acasia nga geputol, morag dihay parte nga medyo rotten na, pero for the most part medyo "may pagka" healthy pa ang panagway sa maong kahoy. Usa pa, base sa ilang mga panulti deri, di man pod baya basta-basta makaputol og kahoy sa ato kay moagi paman sa opisina sa DENR, o unsa pa diha, usa mahatagan ug PERMIT ang lungsod nga moputol sa maong kahoy... hilabina nga kini karaan nga kahoy.

After inspection, mao man usab ang DESISYON sa maong inspectors (sayop ba sila o sakto depende ra gehapon na sa tawo nga nagtan-aw ani)... mao nga mihatag sila og "permit." After all they are the right department/agency APPOINTED or MANDATED by the government to make that decision. Gawas kung di na mo motoo sa gobyerno (that's another story hehehe). I'm not saying they are to be blamed... but they did have a "SAY" in the cutting of those trees, whether we like it or not. (It has nothing to do with one's psycho-logic or college diploma sad to say).  Sila bajay ni determine kung tinuod ba ang claim sa local government nga hazard na ang maong mga kahoy!!!

But before ko mopadayon, please kalmaha sa una ang inyong mga dughan nga NAG-ASO-ASO NA og NAG ULBO na (sama sa bulkang Mayon) nga nagbasa sa sinugdanan sa akong sugilanon (premise 'ika nga)  ;D. But please let me explain...

I beg to disagree with MDB nga dili ka pwede magputol ug kahoy nga 50 or 100 or more years old. In normal circumstance, yes you are right DILI JOD, at all cost. But not always... as in absolute terms.

Tinuod ang claim sa usa deri nga kung hazard na jud ang maong kahoy (after all efforts and studies are exhausted), then you have to consider the safety of people who come near that tree, especially if that particular tree is in a public place where people gather, pass or picnic. Sakto pod tong reasoning sa usa pod deri... di lalim kung kamoy mahugan og kahoy!!! Maajo gani kay Guindulman ra na. Kung deri pana sa akong nahimutangan, dako kaayo nang kinihaay (big lawsuit). And I'm not kidding... kay nahitabo na namo na deri sa akong place!!! Di lang daghang 300 years old oak trees ning naa namo deri, tag-iyahan pa mig public boat launch... which is a big lawsuit waiting to happen!!! And, again, I'm not kidding.

In short, dili tinuod nga di jud pwede mag putol og kahoy. Because we did the same thing here at our place, napugos mig putol ug usa ka 300 year-old Oak Tree ug usa ka 100 year-old nga Water Oak (see photo below). Ang 300-year old Oak Tree tungod kay rotten na sa ilawom ug naigo pog kilat. Buhi paman siya pero dangerous na kaayo ang mga dagkong sanga nga nagbitay... and so we have to cut it.

Ang water oak, on the other hand, was dying. Wala pa mamatay but it sure was dying, as determined by the arbor company nga amo ge hire. So napugos pod mig paputol ani. All because both trees are considered hazards in a public place like ours... which is a church and a public boat launch. Ultimately it was the decision also of our insurance company to cut those 2 trees... or else. Yes, mao nay giingong "OR ELSE," hagit kung wala nay mo insure sa among properties!!! Huh!!!

So, my take on this is... unsa kaha joy tinuod?

Masakiton ba ang maong kahoy sa Guindulman?

Like Islander or si Alycxs bato, did they have them checked by a tree doctor to determine kung pwede pa ba e save ang mga trees?

Or basin nagpataka rapog ingon nga masakiton si kahoy?

O basin gipadayonan na lag ingon nga masakiton kay naka decide na jud sila sa munisipyo nga ila jud ning ipaputol... without thinking of the consequence (gawas karon nga humana)... mao nga nag himo-himo na lang sila og rason nga hazardous daw?

After all, nakabuhi sad silag sulti nga "yes, we wanted to showcase our major improvement sa merkado..." which makes it suspicious sa ilang gehatag nga rason nga hazardous kuno.

Ambot unsay tubag ani. Like I said, we have various points... but not worth calling names or accusing on another!!!  ;)

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Mao ni ang kahoy nga napugos mig paputol kay hazard na kaayo.... more than a hundred years old water oak. Dili pa rotten but
it was determined na patay na ni sya na kahoy
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300 year-oal Oak Tree which was later cut kay naigo ug kilat and we found out rotten na siya sa ilawom.
Daghan napong mga dagkong sanga nga nahulog and one hit a car parking outside sa kural-kural

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That's why big arbor companies exist... it goes to show nga pwede magputol ug trees when necessary. Para dagkong
kahoy ra pod ni sila... sanggot ray gamiton kung gamay ang kahoy
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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2010, 03:35:35 AM »
Another example...

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Picture of a dying old Oak Tree caused by the salt water of Hurricane Katrina. Dili halata kay mora mag buhi pa kaayo
until the owner decided to cut it and eventually burned down the trunk... nga rotten na diay sa sulod

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Scene where that once mighty old Oak Tree stood, photo taken two years after (this morning ako pasabot hehehe).
Naa ko karon sa taas kay back terrace naman nako ni, nga maoy gitukuran sa akong balay nga pinataas... kay mahadlok
nag lunupan kung aduna man gani laing bagyo o baha.

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Or sometimes, mobakay jud ang mga trees... for the sake of some necessary developments like a residence  ;D

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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2010, 02:03:44 PM »
To Da BANGSI

Maayo pay maghukog ka sa punoan sa kamatis....

Mao mura gyud na gibati sa tawo nga na homesick.....

Looy laman siya....

Maayo pay diri ka sa guindulman kay dia pay daghang lagotmon ug lami kaon....

Looy laman siya na na podpod na ang iyang kamot sige ug paulipon sa mga bayaga.... Bisig maid/MASHASHA MAN tingali ka diha sa gawas.....


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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2010, 02:50:51 PM »
Lombog, palihog ayaw tamaya si da Binsi kay siya usa ka tawo nga adunay prinsipyo.

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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2010, 04:38:47 PM »
Her principle... for what!

Kung gusto siya pang tahod ug magparespetar usa uban tao KINAHANGLAN MO TAHUD POD SIYA.....

Tiguwang naman unta.... walang pinagtandaan.....

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« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2010, 04:44:20 PM »
MANAY laktoron pagkasulti kung ang imong anak gapuson ug paasohan OK laman ka....

DA BANSI klaroha kay MAID RABA GYUD KA DINHA sa germany.....


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« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2010, 06:51:50 PM »

DOUBLE STANDARD nga pagkatawo! hahahhaha!

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« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2010, 06:54:19 PM »


mao sad ni resulta sa mga tawo nga mamisita sa usa ka balay nga modiretso sa kusina manungkab!

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« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2010, 07:51:52 PM »

ha ha ha Lombog katawa ko ngano nga na DA BANSI naman na ?
sa ako nabasahan anhi, sa Amerika man na siya ug si Manay ang tua sa Germany  ;D
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« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2010, 07:54:50 PM »

unsa man na MASHASHA Lombog hey? ha ha ha

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Tiaw bay DA BANSI..... isda na diay siya karon.... lami raba na un-onan....

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« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2010, 10:25:46 PM »
MANGSI man tawag ana sa amoa! hahahah! lami kaajo na sugbaon dayun selindron while init pa! ;D

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Oops, sorry, nasaag ra ko. Serious man diay jamo ni nga thread. ;D
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2010, 12:22:34 AM »
from trees to housemaids?  mao usahay nakaguwapo ani nga forum kay bisan asa liko pero mahibalik ra gihapon sa gigikanan. 

una, ang issue dinhi ang acacia nga giputol sa guindulman nga daghan ang niangal; tinuod ba kaha nga angay putlon o dili?  tinuod ba kaha nga masakiton ang kahoy o dili?  nganong sa kadugay na anang mga kahoya, wa man mahunahunai nga peligro sa katawhan, karon na man nga bag-o na ang merkado? 

way daotan kun magpahibawo lang ta sa atong sentimiyento bahin sa pagputol ug dakong kahoy.  sa gipakita ni chic, we can let go kun magkalisod na gyod.  kay niangal man ang uban nga taga-guindulman sa nahitabo didto, tukhionon gyod diay ni.  madawat baya natong tanan kun wa lay hokus-pokus ang paagi nga gigamit aning hitaboa.

ug sa kataposan, hoy, lombog, maid sad ko, kun makamenos na man lang kag maid.  huwag mo kaming isnabin.  puwede naming lagyan ng lason ang luto namin na ipapakain sa senyoritong tulad mo!  anoh ka bwah!     
 

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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2010, 04:20:30 AM »

Bwahahaha. Hala (Bausch &) Lombs, ayaw jud pag sukol2x aning mga "maids" kay malurong jud kag kalit (re: warning sign marked POISON). Usa pa, Mother's Day ra ba jud rong Domingoha. Hinoon e greet nimo ni sila ug "Happy Mother's Day" kay mga maayong mga inahan mani sila... usahay raman sapoton basta mabikil, bwahahaha!!!  ;D







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