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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2010, 06:31:37 AM »
But before ko mopadayon, please kalmaha sa una ang inyong mga dughan nga NAG-ASO-ASO NA og NAG ULBO na (sama sa bulkang Mayon) nga nagbasa sa sinugdanan sa akong sugilanon (premise 'ika nga)  ;D. But please let me explain...[/color]

I beg to disagree with MDB nga dili ka pwede magputol ug kahoy nga 50 or 100 or more years old. In normal circumstance, yes you are right DILI JOD, at all cost. But not always... as in absolute terms.

Tinuod ang claim sa usa deri nga kung hazard na jud ang maong kahoy (after all efforts and studies are exhausted), then you have to consider the safety of people who come near that tree, especially if that particular tree is in a public place where people gather, pass or picnic. Sakto pod tong reasoning sa usa pod deri... di lalim kung kamoy mahugan og kahoy!!! Maajo gani kay Guindulman ra na. Kung deri pana sa akong nahimutangan, dako kaayo nang kinihaay (big lawsuit). And I'm not kidding... kay nahitabo na namo na deri sa akong place!!! Di lang daghang 300 years old oak trees ning naa namo deri, tag-iyahan pa mig public boat launch... which is a big lawsuit waiting to happen!!! And, again, I'm not kidding.

In short, dili tinuod nga di jud pwede mag putol og kahoy. Because we did the same thing here at our place, napugos mig putol ug usa ka 300 year-old Oak Tree ug usa ka 100 year-old nga Water Oak (see photo below). Ang 300-year old Oak Tree tungod kay rotten na sa ilawom ug naigo pog kilat. Buhi paman siya pero dangerous na kaayo ang mga dagkong sanga nga nagbitay... and so we have to cut it.

Ang water oak, on the other hand, was dying. Wala pa mamatay but it sure was dying, as determined by the arbor company nga amo ge hire. So napugos pod mig paputol ani. All because both trees are considered hazards in a public place like ours... which is a church and a public boat launch. Ultimately it was the decision also of our insurance company to cut those 2 trees... or else. Yes, mao nay giingong "OR ELSE," hagit kung wala nay mo insure sa among properties!!! Huh!!!

So, my take on this is... unsa kaha joy tinuod?

Masakiton ba ang maong kahoy sa Guindulman?

Like Islander or si Alycxs bato, did they have them checked by a tree doctor to determine kung pwede pa ba e save ang mga trees?

Or basin nagpataka rapog ingon nga masakiton si kahoy?

O basin gipadayonan na lag ingon nga masakiton kay naka decide na jud sila sa munisipyo nga ila jud ning ipaputol... without thinking of the consequence (gawas karon nga humana)... mao nga nag himo-himo na lang sila og rason nga hazardous daw?

After all, nakabuhi sad silag sulti nga "yes, we wanted to showcase our major improvement sa merkado..." which makes it suspicious sa ilang gehatag nga rason nga hazardous kuno.

Ambot unsay tubag ani. Like I said, we have various points... but not worth calling names or accusing on another!!!  ;)

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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2010, 10:20:07 AM »
But before ko mopadayon, please kalmaha sa una ang inyong mga dughan nga NAG-ASO-ASO NA og NAG ULBO na (sama sa bulkang Mayon) nga nagbasa sa sinugdanan sa akong sugilanon (premise 'ika nga)  ;D. But please let me explain...[/color]

I beg to disagree with MDB nga dili ka pwede magputol ug kahoy nga 50 or 100 or more years old. In normal circumstance, yes you are right DILI JOD, at all cost. But not always... as in absolute terms.

Tinuod ang claim sa usa deri nga kung hazard na jud ang maong kahoy (after all efforts and studies are exhausted), then you have to consider the safety of people who come near that tree, especially if that particular tree is in a public place where people gather, pass or picnic. Sakto pod tong reasoning sa usa pod deri... di lalim kung kamoy mahugan og kahoy!!! Maajo gani kay Guindulman ra na. Kung deri pana sa akong nahimutangan, dako kaayo nang kinihaay (big lawsuit). And I'm not kidding... kay nahitabo na namo na deri sa akong place!!! Di lang daghang 300 years old oak trees ning naa namo deri, tag-iyahan pa mig public boat launch... which is a big lawsuit waiting to happen!!! And, again, I'm not kidding.

In short, dili tinuod nga di jud pwede mag putol og kahoy. Because we did the same thing here at our place, napugos mig putol ug usa ka 300 year-old Oak Tree ug usa ka 100 year-old nga Water Oak (see photo below). Ang 300-year old Oak Tree tungod kay rotten na sa ilawom ug naigo pog kilat. Buhi paman siya pero dangerous na kaayo ang mga dagkong sanga nga nagbitay... and so we have to cut it.

Ang water oak, on the other hand, was dying. Wala pa mamatay but it sure was dying, as determined by the arbor company nga amo ge hire. So napugos pod mig paputol ani. All because both trees are considered hazards in a public place like ours... which is a church and a public boat launch. Ultimately it was the decision also of our insurance company to cut those 2 trees... or else. Yes, mao nay giingong "OR ELSE," hagit kung wala nay mo insure sa among properties!!! Huh!!!

So, my take on this is... unsa kaha joy tinuod?

Masakiton ba ang maong kahoy sa Guindulman?

Like Islander or si Alycxs bato, did they have them checked by a tree doctor to determine kung pwede pa ba e save ang mga trees?

Or basin nagpataka rapog ingon nga masakiton si kahoy?

O basin gipadayonan na lag ingon nga masakiton kay naka decide na jud sila sa munisipyo nga ila jud ning ipaputol... without thinking of the consequence (gawas karon nga humana)... mao nga nag himo-himo na lang sila og rason nga hazardous daw?

After all, nakabuhi sad silag sulti nga "yes, we wanted to showcase our major improvement sa merkado..." which makes it suspicious sa ilang gehatag nga rason nga hazardous kuno.

Ambot unsay tubag ani. Like I said, we have various points... but not worth calling names or accusing on another!!!  ;)

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Mao ni ang kahoy nga napugos mig paputol kay hazard na kaayo.... more than a hundred years old water oak. Dili pa rotten but
it was determined na patay na ni sya na kahoy
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300 year-oal Oak Tree which was later cut kay naigo ug kilat and we found out rotten na siya sa ilawom.
Daghan napong mga dagkong sanga nga nahulog and one hit a car parking outside sa kural-kural

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That's why big arbor companies exist... it goes to show nga pwede magputol ug trees when necessary. Para dagkong
kahoy ra pod ni sila... sanggot ray gamiton kung gamay ang kahoy


Chic, giapil man ang mga bata nga kahoy. Unsa may imong ikaingon ana aber? Gihimo nalang na nila nga excuse kay daghan naman ang reklamo.

Im still not buying your explanation my dear. They should have done something to protect it.

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« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2010, 10:22:28 AM »


kana so Lombog nakasabut ko nga wa na shay pagbati sa kahoy kay gawas nga naa sha sa desyerto basi prente na sha sa nagpaputol!

Chic, ug puro ta buotan diri sa Forum, mahitabo na sad nang issue'ha nga ma hanaw daw aso, sumala sa giingon ni Manay Tess.

Gawas pa sad mogara na sila ug magbinuotan ta diri tanan.

I dont care if i sold my soul to satan (being too bitchy)  to save those trees.

I may not live a hundred years but trees can and will, if someone would take good care of them.

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« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2010, 10:51:40 AM »

hehe, thanks for reminding lombog about today's occasion, chic.  wa man gud tingali na siya katilaw atong karaan nga milkmaid condensada. 

so far, so good.  no sapot here, hehe, otherwise naay anti-ants medicine ug chlorox on the ready.  can't suffer fools gladly (because i am one fool!) especially kun magpataka ug liko sa arguments kay nahutdan na.  alegre man hinoon, pero lamiang hapakon ug islander nga tsinelas.

pero, diay pakapin gamay ha?  hoy, lombog, kun naa gyod tuod ka sa saudi as claimed by one post here, ajaw kalimot nga nianha ka, inubanan sa nagkalainlain nimong rason, aron naay ikasuweldo imong asawa sa injong maid (kun di ka pa minjo, di ang imong mama dear).  unsolicited advice:  kumbabit dinha sa date palm trees.  you will appreciate their shade and their fruits. :D   

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« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2010, 10:54:42 AM »


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have a good one!

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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2010, 11:24:04 AM »

Mao bitaw nag wonder ko - asking some questions - kay dili man god klaro tanang angulo sa issue. I don't really know the whole story to be honest with you. Nitampo lang kog panghuna-huna sa matimbanganong (balanced) paagi... to redirect you guys back to the real issue kay medyo nag aso-aso naman gamay ang inyong pagkukabildo. Morag deri na dapit sa pantog ang sinipaay (basin baja masaghiran ang kidney hehehe  :P); ang isa nag hisgot nang hikot nga nag gikan sa ibabaw sa kahoy (re: hikog bwahaha  ;D)

Like I said kamo tanan aduna may mga saktong punto... ato lang nang hinay-hinayag close ang gap; magkasinabot ra lagi ta... naks!  ;)

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« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2010, 11:39:30 AM »
Bitaw tug-anan ta mo sa tinuod, kana si LOMBOY kahoy kana siya; aduna lang na siyay kasuko gamay ni kahoy ACASIA kay naapsan sijag tubo. Klasmeyt na sila sa una sa Grade 6. Mao nga nakig kunsabo si kahoy LOMBOY ni kahoy GABAS nga taga Merkado nga ilang putlag liog og tiil si kahoy ACASIA inig ka tungag gabii samtang nangatulog pa ang mga molupyo sa Pueblo Guindulman. Dugay baja pog pangita si kahoy LOMBOY ni kahoy GABAS kay tua naman nag trabaho si GABAS sa balay ni Mayor Ma. Fe PIEZAS. Daghan raba jamo gehangyo si LOMBOY nga moparegla ni kahoy ACASIA, sama ni kahoy TIGIB ug ni kahoy MARTILYO. Apan dili gusto mag apil-apil ang duha. Kuyaw sad tong balay ni Mayor kay daghan jamog PYESAS... pyesas sa karpentero, pyesas sa sakyanan, pyesas sa madjongan, bwahaha. Si kahoy GABAS ra joy niuban ni kahoy LOMBOY didto merkado ug silang duha ang mi paregla ni kahoy ACASIA, with the permision of Mayor PYESAS. Hehehehe.   ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2010, 11:51:14 AM »
klaro man jud nga ang merkado lang ang gipasidak-an sa mayor sa pagputol sa maong kahoy...pasundayag sa gahum ug garbo.

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« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2010, 01:57:01 PM »

well taken, chic.  i will take care to remember that. :D :D :D
 

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« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2010, 01:59:13 PM »

thanks, ms da binsi.  i surely will have one.  g'night.  sleep tight. 


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« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2010, 02:08:07 PM »

see?  tree killers of guindulman, now we have an aesop's fable.  ang ato na lang paghagpat sa leksiyon ani ang atong sibosiboon kay lainlain man tag tinan-awan.  naay 20/20 vision, naay uban hanap, naay uban libat.


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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2010, 03:26:33 PM »
Bisan asa man gyud nay mga demonyo.... huhuhu

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« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2010, 04:43:22 PM »

nay daghan sa injong munisipyo....wahhh!

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« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2010, 11:25:11 PM »
Ang bottom line ani nga issue is irresponsibility ug self-interest.

At the end everyone is pointing fingers. Kung ang buta mi guia sa usa ka buta, siguradong gyud nga manga hulog sa bakilid.

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« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2010, 11:42:23 PM »

gasige diay kag lakaw-lakaw bisag asa, kaayohan?  unya gituboan na diay kag ikog ug sungay ug wa lang ka nagsaba? pastilan, malubatan man sad mi ani ug mokalit lag naay motubag sa among mobile phone ug moingon ug "who in hell do you want?"   


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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2010, 11:44:44 PM »
There are some questions hanging in my mind, like why are there no persons concerned in Guindulman? Were there no infos disseminated from the Mayor´s office? Are the Guindulmanons not worth asking about the intentions of the mayor to cut the trees?

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« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2010, 12:29:33 AM »
Maayong gabii manay dear!!!

Mibalik ako kay gimingaw kanimo (mura man ug kanta).

Dili ko komportable sa remarks ni Lombog nga gi ingnan mong duha ni Dabinsi ug mga Maid. Unsa "gikaminos" siya sa mga maid nga nag sakripisyo ug langyaw ug pangita ug disente nga trabaho.

Bisan maid lang sa laing nasod, dako kini sila ug gikatabang sa atong ikonomiya tungod sa ilang sakripisyo. Ang ilang gipadala nga kwarta direct income kini sa treasury sa Pilipinas. Maayo nalang ni sila kay nag paulipon sa uban nga nasod at their own choice. Pero ang uban sa atoa, nagpa ulipon sa mga politica sulod sa ilang kaugalingon nga lungsod.

So kung kinsa kadtong walay gikatampo sa atong nasod, wala sab silay katungod nga mopadayag kay gihungitan lang ni sila ug nag supsop lang sa resources nga gihagoan sa uban.

To all OFW's, I salute you!

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« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2010, 12:43:46 AM »


Tinuod nga ang mga OFW’s tinuod nga bayani sa atong nasod. Dili lalim ang ilang sakripisyo. I know the feelings of being maid kay self-supporting student ko in high school. Pero dili nato angay kalimtan maskin pa man dili kine madawat sa atong mga kalalakihan tungod sa ilang garbo pero daghan nga mga babaye nga napugos og minyo og foreigners aron moasenso og makatabang sa pamilya.

Dili tanan nga nakabana og foreigners all over the world swerte. Daghan gihapon ang giabuso apan nag-antos aron mabag-o ang kinabuhi. Blessed are those that are happily married with good and decent foreigners, and I feel sorry for those that fell into the trap and has no option of getting out. Ang $$$$$ para sa pamilya sa Plipinas mas importante kaysa dignidad og baruganan isip babaye.

THEY TOO ARE OUR UNSUNG HEROES… We have no idea what they been through in a foreign land. 
"Men acquire a particular quality by constantly acting a particular way... you become just by performing just actions, temperate by performing temperate actions, brave by performing brave actions" (Aristotle)

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« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2010, 05:04:53 AM »
I´m happy to hear from you Mackyboy, unsa man ang exam nimo? Kamusta ang kinabuhi diha?Labina ang mga bata ?
Abi nimo wala jud ko matandog sa biay-biay ni Lombog kay ang tawo nga gamay ug pangisip maghuna-huna ug in-ana nga butanga.
I´m so ashamed about this whole acacia  affair in Guindulman. It seemed that nobody cares. I´m ashamed that an elected official an expatriate who had learned a lot from the USA didn´t apply it in our country. I got the impression that she is willing to improve our town but she got no scruples.
I wish that the rest of century trees be spared and preserved.

Here´s a nice poem;

God has cared for these trees, saved them from drought, disease, avalanches, and a thousand tempests and floods.  But he cannot save them from fools.  ~John Muir

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« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2010, 08:26:12 AM »
My 2 centavos :

We are all from Bohol and we should all know or acknowledge by now that anything can be done in the Philippines with the right kind of money and the right kind of connections.

The decision to cut the trees was already determined, they just had to find an excuse to "legalize it" and cover their own As$. Like THAT would even be covered.

At the end of the day, they wanted to high light their new market and that's that. From the pictures, the trees can be rescued. If they really looked at alternatives, I'm sure they would've found a way to save those trees and not cut it down.

If limbs were falling off, it would've made the news...think about it, UP Diliman probably has 100 times more Acacias than Guindulman public market...maybe a bit older too but you never hear of anybody falling victim to falling limbs of Acacia trees.

Lastly...look at these pictures I took last year in Dauis. I beg somebody to tell me that the buildings would look so much better without all these trees !!!!

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