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Hi Prisilla, Steve and all Martins' friends/ family. Condolences.

Have just read all 58 pages.

I understand your (Uk people) frustrations with the Filipino system.

I had the missfortune of having a relative murdered on another island some years ago. We knew who the murderers were but their uncle was a policeman, and they absconded before attempted arrest some days later. Soon after they were spotted on another island and followed to their residence. This information was given to the police, but they somehow were tipped off and absconded again.

Steve, I am sure you were somewhat surprised with the way the police dealt (or should I say, didn't deal with) with the shooting incident in the bar. I live not too far from you. I am sure the rest of you guys from UK are very frustrated.

I see the tone of the Filipinos changed somewhat when the friends of the his wife posted what seemed to me as a lot of exagerated lies. Two of them are the same person as you can see by their errors. But their accusations seemed to have changed some of the filipinos views here. Even though some people were asked several times to write in English, they purposely write in visaya/cebuanna. This is rude and ignorant towards the people here who have no means to translate, when the thread is all about their good friend.

Making statements like 'we don't need your money' etc are totally unhelpful and are harming an already dented public relations situation in Bohol. It is foreign investment/ foreign tourists that has made Bohol/Panglao into the triving place it is.

Maybe the wife did it, maybe not. But the circumstantial evidence makes her at least a potential suspect. As a potential suspect she should not be allowed to interfere will possible evidence and not be allowed in his house.

I have been to Bohol four times, and the Philippines six times in total. Bohol is a beautiful place. I love it there.

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Ralds,All the decent friends of Martin and decent Boholan's will appreciate,youre contrubution to help find the truth behind Martins Murder,and Patman nice to see someone else read through all the crap that was written using sex and abuse charges to stop people seeing and asking for the truth ,they are clever the wifes family they know that using this angle that people would be against martin ,at least one judge saw the truth when martin was found innocent,
 to those that write in visaya,they have the right to do that but as its about an English person it is disrespectfull,and they try to leave snide remarks hoping that the English dont understand ,they know who they are????I have a few questions to ask next time it will be intresting if they are the same as the P.I. found out,and to use Martins ex wife and Kids is dispictable ,In the uk children are often used as pawns in devorce as it is Martin did not leave her with nothing ,she ended up with a house worth more that in Bohol and a financial sttlement ,details are private between them not for publication so chona abby stop making out Martin left them destertute,
Oh nice report about the 2 sisters in Maasin ?????

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hoy kung ako ninyo kanang inyong gi ipon na sapi inyo pa ng itabang sa mga pobre ky maski unsay inyong buhaton dili na ninyo mabalik ang patay adto sa buhi,so kung gamiton gyod ninyo ang sapi nagpasabot lang na nga mapalit gyod ang tanan sa sapi ra ug dili ang hustisya ...panghilom nalang mo aron dili na masamok ang bohol ug paabot nalang mo sa court ilabina sa resulta kasabot!

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hi im thalia one of martins friend to be honest i was working with him we are his first bar girls we are 5 together since martin arrived together with his family in phil until the wife go back to uk bcoz martin sign her application for renewal visa and follow them but martin change his mind not to go in uk anymore coz he enjoying himself with us ...to be honest i was her girlfriend but its my job "trabaho lang walang personalan" kaingon ko ug kami nagayod pero dili lang diay ako ra gi horot diay mi tanang bar girls ug gamit nya so mao nga nagpalayo nalang ako until i found out his dead,to be honest its good for everybody that his gone and panglao will be have peace in mind coz girls are fighting with him...so hope he will be rest in peace..colin and edit know me coz during their holidays in phil.i was with martin they stay in martins house couple of days....its me thalia remember that martin never buy  food for us and feed us as his employeer...

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Hi Thalia, how are you this fine day?

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Hallo Nathalia, thanks for opening up. Sad to hear that your were literally exploited. This should also be a lesson to foreigners who has no good intentions for our women here in our country.

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Yes there is a lesson here.

When a foreigner comes to harm at the hands of a Filipino, the Filipino's 'story' will be beleived above the Foreigner.

I brought 34 guests (couples/families) from Europe to Panglao last year. It seems that if some harm had had come to them during their stay, they would have got the full brunt of the Bohol rumourmongers.

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Sorry to say I have some difficulty in comprehending your message, a simple sentence would be much appreciated, Mr Patman.

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I dont understand the mentality of some people on this site, This is a horrific murder the poor man was attacked by many people stabbed numerous times and you seem to think its ok for that to happen. I sat with Martin many nights at his bar he fed the girls every night, he treated them extremley well and there are staff that would vouch for that, hasnt any one noticed that the only bad things said about Martin are by his estranged wife or her friends.

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Am afraid not jfm.

They prefer to listen to family of the wife because it suits better, and then they can say that he came to his death because of his lifestyle, so in a way he deserves to die.

It does not suit their public relations to show that he died just becase he wanted to an annulment from his Filipina wife.



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Sorry to say I have some difficulty in comprehending your message, a simple sentence would be much appreciated, Mr Patman.
It is two sentances long. It is in English. Which of the sentances or words do you not understand.

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Hi Thalia, how are you this fine day?

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My appologies for my attempt at French. I was being sarcastic to the previous user who wrote her 'posts' in visaya after been asked to keep it in English.

In english: 'How much did you get paid for writing those lies'

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Nathalia,

I know some contractors who had met you ladies at the bar and they said you were being treated really well by Martin and they were doing contract work for him.

This person is related to a very famous family in Bohol. She described you ladeis as happy and even asked you girls if everything was okay you all told them your doing really great!

She also was in shock disbeleif and  when she had heard about the alleged rape as she thinks Martin was a very nice and trusting person.
She is also a Filipina lady who is an educated professional with a lot of class as she spoke with kindness about you girls under the care of your foreigner boss Martin.

Patman and Nathalia thanks very much for your insights.

Wellcome back Hofelina, I wonder why it is I always seen Martin with his English freinds but never with girls?
I seen him with one girl the one who was a witness to him in the farfetched alleged rape cases that were dismissed as the judge found such fabricated storeis out of the complaintives.

Martin had a will and an anullment that he should of been working on instead of fighting of this nonsense.
The two partners could not reconcile as it was beyond reconcilliation.

October two hit and runs and one had busted him up so bad he landed in the hospital, Jan, two bulllets went after him, hen two attempts of alleged poisoning, two girls filed alleged rape charges against him.

He was not compfortable to stay in his own house and you Nathalia say he was happy staying with you girls?

Nathalia he was very frightend of everything going on and if your really his girlfreind before then yoour not so observant about his feelings were you?

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To rald dampong as what crusader its not truth kay saksi me sa 1st hearing sa iyang asawa naatanan ang evidence last august mi pauli sya kay while she was in her house with the husband permi nalang mag inusara ang mag ina kay c martin buntagan nalang mo pauli pero dili lang kana once nahitabo kundili kanunay natural napono na ang asawa kalingaw nalang sila mag away ilabina ug mangutana sya kun dis a sya gikan,ug kinsa ning mga baye cge text ug etc.so nagdugay migrabi na hangtod mi abot ang panahon nga gitook niya iyang asawa samtang nagkugos sa iyang anak ug giingnan sya gie maayo pag mupalayo ka ug mohawa ka dre kay violenti na kaayo ko so natural nahadlok ang asawa mao nga mipauli sya sa leyte . mibalik sya sa uk ug ang bata kay lage ang asawa mi perma man sa visa form ug daan na silang nagsabot nga renewhon iyang visa kay incase dili mo work ilang business sa pinas makauban gehapon ang asawa sa pag pa uli sa uk ug mipasalig nga mo apas lang pero wala gayod kay nag enjoy nakaayo sya sa iyang life sa dihang na open na iyang bar so its not truth also that the wife was being deported because we seen her pasport never been stamp deportation,she go back to philippines before her expiration of her visa last Nov. and its not true she was being deported.Mao sa dihang nakauli na sya sa pinas mao nga mi adto sya sa iyang balay pero wala na siyay right nga mosolod hangtod mi abot nalang kalingaw sa police panglao station ang mga blater kung gusto mo pag inquire kamo dre sa pnaglao na ka record ang tanan so ang advice sa mga police nga mas maayo nalang ipsaka sa korti kay isog naman kaayo jud si martin mao nga mi file ang asawa ug court order to have the right to stay on her own house and martin will give child support on his daughter amy and thats the truth kining tanan recorded here in bohol.

This briton people mga ubos ilang pagtan aw kanato kay abi sila man ang naay mga kwarta mao nga dili kami motogot nga sila ang maghari sa atong nasod ilabina sa taga boholano.

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Can you write that in English so that Martins family can understand.

Do you think that by continuing to plaster this board with insults and lies, people will start to beleive you?

The more you write here; the less credible your 'stories' sounds to the British people and the Filipino people wo are reading this.

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You've already raised the stake to P55,000 and no taker yet?  Tsk, tsk. And you think locals can be paid P50 to make a false statement?

When these people instead come up to tell you about a Martin you didn't know--which is really irrelevant to the case (murder is murder, whether the victim is a saint or a rapist, no one's arguing with you guys)--you say these people are paid for, they are liars, they are conspirators.

If you say the Philippine police and legal system are corrupt and cannot deliver justice to Martin, why not offer your P55,000 to them? Give the jail wardens a little more so that they can torture Gulle and squeeze out a confession from him about the real mastermind.

Pray teach us the  British judicial system and American tenets of justice. You who fooled the world and tried to squeeze confessions from Iraqi suspects in Abu Ghraib and Baghdad by all means of torture and still find no solid evidence, even after tens of thousands of armed and civilian deaths on both sides, that there are WMDs buried in Baghdad and that Saddam plotted 9/11 with Bin Ladin.

Filipinos are so poor and so wicked they can lie for P50, you say. It should be easy to ask another local to lie, or to speak the truth, for P55,000. Just to make your task easier, I'll add P10,000. I swear by the IQ of those who didn't get Rald's point in making the offer.

I don't have the passion for, nor the friendship with, Martin like you guys do. But I am just as desperate as you to find the truth and let justice prevail.

This is not about the person's being a saint or a sinner. This is about crime. I am not going to solve a crime by another crime of indicting someone not proven guilty.






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Hi Thalia, how are you this fine day?

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Merci beaucoup, pourqua Monsour Martin pas pay'e les service sexual.

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hoy kung ako ninyo kanang inyong gi ipon na sapi inyo pa ng itabang sa mga pobre ky maski unsay inyong buhaton dili na ninyo mabalik ang patay adto sa buhi,so kung gamiton gyod ninyo ang sapi nagpasabot lang na nga mapalit gyod ang tanan sa sapi ra ug dili ang hustisya ...panghilom nalang mo aron dili na masamok ang bohol ug paabot nalang mo sa court ilabina sa resulta kasabot!

Chona, you should be thankful for the friends of Martin who raised reward to find the real killer of Martin if its not the wife then you are free and not worried about it. But if the police relatives of his wife then you should hide now because justice is onway to get him.

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Rald is obviously an educated man, he also has no interest to side with either Martin or his wife. Its common Knowledge theres more to this than just Gulle commiting the crime, so all he is intersested in is finding out the truth and bringing justice. The reason being for the love of his country and the people. All countries in the world have crime and there are always some people that think that they are above the law and thats something no country should accept.

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Whistle woo hooie nice picture of you have Bennylne. :)

Okay people just get along and as said in before everyone has a right to have a balanced thought printed in here.

It may not be the belief of others but this is an open forum for all.

Take care

God bless

please people try to get a long.

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Whistle woo hooie nice picture of you have Bennylne. :)

Okay people just get along and as said in before everyone has a right to have a balanced thought printed in here.

It may not be the belief of others but this is an open forum for all.

Take care

God bless

please people try to get a long.

Peace! We're all one in our search for peace in Bohol and justice for Martin. Let's not scramble over one another in our search for peace...  :)

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Merci beaucoup, pourqua Monsour Martin pas pay'e les service sexual.
Ma'yong hapon sa Europe. My French is not that good Monsour Rald. Are you suggesting she pay me for sex? I am shocked :) . Never payed for, or got paid for in my life. No need. I have a beautiful 'gwapa day' for my wife.

Prisilla, as you said earlier in this thread that Martin's trial for rape 'proved' that it was a trumped up charge. So I take offence when somebody found not guilty, being refered to as a rapist.

Benelynne,
I think the reward will make little difference, because the police are not interested in any other information on this matter. It is in the interest of Bohol government to leave things as they are.

"An isolated murder of a playboy who got his cumupence" sounds better to potential tourists, than "a British expatriot murdered in a 'hit' after two previous attempts on his life."

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We are proud to be filipino esp. our language for you jfm im sure makasabot ka kay naaman kay asawa tig translate so kung ako nimo tak om nalang sa imong baba diha pra dili mosamot ug kadako imo tiyan...ari mo dire sa bohol ug adtoa ninyo ang mga police kay until karon ang mga belonging ni martin naapa nila apil ang honda motorcycle ug ang cash na 50,000pesos kay si atty.lim nag intres sa sapi ug niya pa asta si steve kay igo lang sya gisogo.so usapa ninyo na kon nawong pa sapi ang asawa atua na unta na niya wala oroy mo mahadlok ug kagon mo sa tag iya!

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chona, if you want to say something to me write in a way i will understand, be proud, but dont be ignorant. Do you think your comments will will make much difference anyway ? This is about an unsolved murder not a honda motorcycle or if she had deported stamped on her passport. (which by the way she now has to apply for a special visa to return to the uk- the authorities will confirm that.)

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woo what up Benelynn you dont like English in Europe we call you a  you will never make a politition bringing things like baghdad up right or wrong many a good person killed by the muslims there and kill innercont women and children trying to make a better life so why bring insults that  have some respect???I wonder if you are a member of the BLACK WIDOW'S Family the way you defend her,,ost that accuse her Know more about the real facts and have seen the texts messages that threaton his life
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woo what up Benelynn you dont like English in Europe we call you a TIT HEAD you will never make a politition bringing things like baghdad up right or wrong many a good person killed by the muslims there and kill innercont women and children trying to make a better life so why bring insults to them or people on this blog by including it on it think about youre own N P A that behead people have some respect???I wonder if you are a member of the BLACK WIDOW'S Family the way you defend her,,ost that accuse her Know more about the real facts and have seen the texts messages that threaton his life

I tried so hard to understand what you are saying here.  Really!  But I think I get the drift of what you are trying to say.


I know for sure that Mr. Benelynne can answer this well but let me just tell you, crusaderfreedom, you should be the first one to understand the word freedom as you seem to espouse it in reference to your username.  Where in his posts that he was defending the wife of Mr. Williams?  He is one in seeking for justice, as he kept on saying here.  We all are but justice does not mean punishing the innocent. (That's no brainer!)  I am not saying the wife is innocent or what but we do not want to punish the innocent should she be innocent in all these baseless allegations of yours.  Those threatening text messages you are saying,  I supposed you presented this to the court already so since you are not a lawyer, much more a judge, then leave these people to do their job. 

I am with you in your crusade for freedom and justice, and I can almost assure you that Mr. Benelynne is in the same ship with us and the rest of the people here. 

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woo what up Benelynn you dont like English in Europe we call you a TIT HEAD you will never make a politition bringing things like baghdad up right or wrong many a good person killed by the muslims there and kill innercont women and children trying to make a better life so why bring insults to them or people on this blog by including it on it think about youre own N P A that behead people have some respect???I wonder if you are a member of the BLACK WIDOW'S Family the way you defend her,,ost that accuse her Know more about the real facts and have seen the texts messages that threaton his life

i guess, you don't get his point! Sir bene doesn't even know Martin and his wife. the problem with you guys here is that you seem to belittle the filipinas with your money, and that makes the situation irritating. what's all in your mind is that filipinas are always after of the foreigners' money.

i have been reading this read, and as much as i wanna empathize you guys for Martin's death, i can't help but get vexed with the way you degrade the filipinas or Martin's wife, to be specific, with your wealth. like Sir Bene, i don't know Martin and his wife.

last month, my husband and i went to the police station to blotter our tenant, a British national, who refused to pay his rent, and to think, he was bragging to our neighbor who is also a British that he is very rich in UK. we blottered him because his behavior was already alarming. he sent a text message to his live-in partner to vacate the house they rented because he found another girl. that easy to replace a partner?

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I am sorry it you had problems with an English arse hole as we say it makes us feel feel very unhappy and ashamed when you get people like this ,we ALL have to except that we have people in our midst that our like that weather Filippina English ect,not go and blame everyone because of the race of a person I have relitives that our great some I dont trust but I dont be disrespectfull to the good Filippina In fact I look on the fact that I am lucky where I was born and Of my financial status,as my family our secure I try to give some of my luck to other filippina to earn a decent standed of living nnot having to scrape a 100 npeso or less aday ,like the lads on a tricycle I tip well and tell them I respect them for trying to earn a honest living as I know I couldnt do it ,maybe it guilt with what I have I pray it not and is that I what to help,this is one reason I hate corruption that hurts the honest people

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Rald is obviously an educated man

This is an understatement, Rald is a person of principle and I think his intention is to let justice prevail just like the most of us Bol-anons who love our province dearly. 

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Rald is obviously an educated man

This is an understatement, Rald is a person of principle and I think his intention is to let justice prevail just like the most of us Bol-anons who love our province dearly. 

I'm just a private citizens who want our province a better place for Boholanos and Foreigner alike to live in.

A Bohol who's inhabitant live a peaceful life. That's were aiming for everyone here in this fora.

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Ma'yong hapon sa Europe. My French is not that good Monsour Rald. Are you suggesting she pay me for sex? I am shocked :) . Never payed for, or got paid for in my life. No need. I have a beautiful 'gwapa day' for my wife.

Prisilla, as you said earlier in this thread that Martin's trial for rape 'proved' that it was a trumped up charge. So I take offence when somebody found not guilty, being refered to as a rapist.

Benelynne,
I think the reward will make little difference, because the police are not interested in any other information on this matter. It is in the interest of Bohol government to leave things as they are.

"An isolated murder of a playboy who got his cumupence" sounds better to potential tourists, than "a British expatriot murdered in a 'hit' after two previous attempts on his life."

Here first post said, she was dated by Mr Martin while working at the Club of Martin and later found out that she not alone but all the girls in the club are Mr. Martins girlfriend. She complained that she was not paid and Martin did not feed her.

Thats why, I asked her why she was not paid for the sexual service she did to Monsour Martin.

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excuse me jfm the wife has not got a deported stamp in her passport and for your information the murder is not unsolve because the murderer have been caught and they have addmitted it and they will be sentese shortly .mine your own business bugaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrr!!!!!!

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excuse me jfm the wife has not got a deported stamp in her passport and for your information the murder is not unsolve because the murderer have been caught and they have addmitted it and they will be sentese shortly .mine your own business bugaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrr!!!!!!
Oh Chona,or should we say gei the black widow/witch sounds like you getting scared,only 2 caught what happen to the others or are your police relitives protecting them that why they not looking any further into it oh the immagration states you was deported ,you seem more ashamed of that than being involved with youre husbands murder,be carefull the dead have away of biting back so keep looking over your shoulder

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excuse me jfm the wife has not got a deported stamp in her passport and for your information the murder is not unsolve because the murderer have been caught and they have addmitted it and they will be sentese shortly .mine your own business bugaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrr!!!!!!

So you can type in english have some respect for the people who cant read your language as this is an english mans murder we are discussing.

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guys ur too much here..crusaderfreedom and jusice for martin..its easy to accuse but its hard to prove esp if the accused is innocent..i was talkin to je..she said plenty of people intersted in bar..someone offerd her to rent ,sell or be partner on here but she refuses them all..she was crying wen i talk 2 here..she said lastwek of april she went in hall of justice coz of the prelim investigation of her husband..she seen irene..she said the bitch cry in front of the fiscal so dat she will not prove guilty..she wana smack the lady but her mum stop here for the killer bring oll the families which rely looks scary. so if i were u guys instead of accusing je why dnt u open ur eyes and accept that the killers are caught instead of accusing...i knw colin and edit..they just being frend wih martin coz they think they can have holiday in bohol for free..huh...i dnt like that couple .b4 they are the one who wants martin to put in jail wen martin and je have a big fyht in uk coz martin lay hands on je which give bruises..i remember edit said go walk in center and report martin police but je said no i wanna save my marriage and love martin.i dnt care if u get mad on me edit and colin but ur too much here..u knw d couple they just users...hey i seen u edit lastxmas party..ur still arogant same as ur boustful husband..sory guys its just i dnt like u both....c u in filipino party again


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excuse me jfm the wife has not got a deported stamp in her passport and for your information the murder is not unsolve because the murderer have been caught and they have addmitted it and they will be sentese shortly .mine your own business bugaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrr!!!!!!
So you think people should not question who the conspirators are? It is pretty obvious to any person of sound mind they were paid to commit this heinous crime. Do you think it was the family of his wife, or perhaps the tourist police?

Tell me; do you think it was a random attack? If you knew anything about criminality, you would understand that the ammount of wounds to the victim suggest it was an act of hate.

By suggesting it was a random attack and that the there is no connection to the previous attacks, you are therefore also suggesting that Bohol is a place that foreigners can expect killed at least three times every three months.

This is not the case. Please stop destroying the reputation of the people of Bohol.

Chona, you are doing more harm to the good Boholian people here than you can imagine. The more tripe that comes out of your mouth the more desperate you seem to have become.

Mr. Rald. I understand now that your comment was directed at the other girl and not my quote. lol. salamat sir.

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yah u ryht precilla ..wen talk to je she said she genna open d bar soon...y dnt u see j and alkto here and see amy im sure u will love amy ...she said she cant sell d bar for martin buil that bar with his love ...all martin hardworks she wanna save it..she wanna continue what they plan b4.she got amy ..she need to survive i advice her that...i told here olways pray and ask martins help im sure ryht now he knws that u didnt do anything...je keeps everything wat the couple got..martins bike and other things still in police..u knw guys wen i talk je in fon she said.she olways pray that martin will make a dreamed of her and only once she was dreamed..she said she in the altar wearing wedding gown but with her surprise wen she seen her groom it was martin who got a big smile on his face....and i said..ohhh ....i knw martin realy value their marriage and love je too bits...and i knw the couple love each oher so much..its bad circumstances happen to them...je olways pray and move on...be happy with amy..i wish u goodluck in restaurant business...like i said if  u need my help financialy i am willing  to help u my frnd...its nice to c u mybe 5 yrs from now..amy is so lucky..she will have he nice beauiful house which her dad built her with love,,...guys plsssssss let justice judge the killers ...think and stop for once..martin is with god now...and i knw he is..takecare je..look after amy..make her ur inspiration..i knw ur storng...god be wih olways...i miz u little amy mai...my hugs and kisses..xxx

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Mademoiselle Abby, If it is in fact too much for may I suggest you leave it. By saying it is hard to prove IMO suggests guilt.

Who gives a s*** about the bar and if je is crying all be it crocodile tears, makes not one bit of difference.

I will go to bed as it is 1am here now in UK. The rest of your post is just the same tripe you have been posting before. Do you actually beleive that by shouting louder you will be beleived more. May I suggest you stop these inconsistant rumours before you incriminate Je.

Maayong Gabe-e ninyong tanan.

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Mademoiselle Abby, If it is in fact too much for you may I suggest you leave it. By saying it is hard to prove IMO suggests guilt.

Who gives a s*** about the bar and if je is crying all be it crocodile tears, makes not one bit of difference.

I will go to bed as it is 1am here now in UK. The rest of your post is just the same tripe you have been posting before. Do you actually beleive that by shouting louder you will be beleived more. May I suggest you stop these inconsistant rumours before you incriminate Je.

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yah u better go sleep patman perhaps ur drunk ....evrybody wana say something here s none of ur business ok!better u pray for martins soul f u really a good mate ok..

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Chona, i never said you or your sister is it, has deported on the passport as i dont know, ive not seen it, correction, i said she has to apply for a special visa to re enter the uk now, which according to my friend in the foreign office is a fact, the case is still an unsolved murder as all the killers are not yet apprehended, Gulle did not commit this murder on his own which is also a fact and as i said common knowledge. Why on earth do you think this forum is on going,? its to help bring real justice to this case. So i will make this my business and i dont think i need your permission to do so.

The question i ask you, seeing as you and Ning10 is the wife and/or her sister why are you not with us in helping to find out the truth. Why are you against us trying to solve this unsolved murder? If your so innocent !!

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weird!


Weird?

Weird because I question a conspiricy?

Or do you also wish to sweep it under the carpet and put it down as a random attack?

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Weird?

Weird because I question a conspiricy?

Or do you also wish to sweep it under the carpet and put it down as a random attack?

nope. am not talking about you or your posts, pat.

i just found it weird, cos, until now this thread has never outgrown its purpose.

just pray and hope there'll be justice for Martin..

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JFM ur 4getful now? read ur previous post coz its very cleared that u said that Gee has been deported in Uk, well of course we want justice for Martin as well thats what GEE2 want, but who started this allegation? we? of course not!!! so f u dont like what we post in here stop accusing GEE2 n the entire family, by the way were not the one who started this its u STEVE, JFM many 2 mention.

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i agree with u NING10 they started it, lets wait and see for the result before u accuse thats ur problem not even proven guilty u already judged them, poor people who cant say something without their knowledge they already famous here in this website. thanx to jfm n the rest who accuse the wife of martin without enough evidence.

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You just dont get it do you, you are the wife/family,and all you have done on this site is to try to justify Martins death, i can quote so many awful things you and your sister has said. Steve quoted what Martin believed and spoke as if it was on Martins behalf, others like myself do accuse you of being behind it because of your actions. You have never acted like a sad and concerned wife, youve brought this on youself.

Yes aswel you was deported, what i said is i dont know about a stamp on a passport, but to be honest things like that are quite trivial compared to being accused of being behind a murder, wouldnt you agree.?

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Your picture of the tazmanian devil, suits you fine.!
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hey you ?dont ever involve margie here or her sister we are only her friends telling the truth what kind of person martin was evil and badly treated his wife and daughter,he offered me money for sex and told him what kind of girl do u think i am?go back to ur wife and child,but he it didnt take him long to find another girl very young in another bar,his whole life here was just sex sex sex,and he wont even pay for his baby medicine when she was sick ,he was a disgrace as a husband and a pittyful excuse of a father.thats was he is.

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thank u i appreciate it to be honest its u well suit tazmania but well he will eat u alive as far as i know u talk too much and ur beloved friends here in this site, talk more and we will talk also, about the deported issue she doesnt have a stamp that she was deported n uk, ur just creating the story old man grumpy hahaha ur pathetic ;D ;D ;D peace!!!

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Quotes of yours or your sisters is why you have brought this on yourself.

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You grieve in a strange way for your husband and the father of your child. !

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sister? hahaha sori but i dont know the sister of late martin i know gee well f thats what u think ur welcome 2 think like that.

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whatever u say but i'm not mhargie look! u already accuse me i'm mhargie how dare u! u dnt even know i'm just a citizen here who canty stand what u were saying. adios!

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jfm grumpy old man u dnt know s***e about grieving u dnt have any i dea how she grieve so talk less, less mistake as pacman said.. ;)

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ning10, i understand what ur saying to JFM he dont know what happened here when martin got killed and how gg suffered, just sit back and relax JFM like u always do ok ?be good and just wait d result., be patient n satisfy whatever it is.

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thanx! bebe justice 4 martin xx

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Good Tidings to everyone in here.

When it comes to the cell phone Inspector Palacio told me that they do not have it at the police station because Martins wife was insistant in getting it, so he said he gave it to her as she is his wife and she was no longer considered a suspet as she told the inspector that she is on good terms with her inlaws.


Maybe after she remove the sim card she could of had easily given it back over to the police. The messages to Martin were very graphic and terribly horrific as well.

So if the police do have that fone and the original sim card of Martins I could show them the messages that he held onto which many of them were alleged death threats.

But that fone and sim card as I said was not in the hands of Silvan Palacio of the inspectors on the case.

I have kept them on my phone as well as Martins thoughts that he had text to me. He always told me along with his other foreigner freinds that his murder was getting nearer and he was living in complete fear.
He talked about wanting to meet with the governor of Bohol, and said that things that were happening to him.

He mentioned in one of his text as this "Tourist police.  girls my staff. I hate this place." the number he sent it to me on is +639296985975 which is the number he would always keep me updated on. I have many messages that he had sent to me or had forwarded it and others as well I kept them as I miss him and his kindness and the way that he wanted tohelp peope in the Philippines.
It's all I have to remember my freind by is his fear he had in the final days before he was brutally killed.

Now I had read a thread in here that said Martin did not want to go to England because he was happeir with his bar girls? I think that text begs to differ it looks like he was sick of the crap happening to him as in enough was enough!

another example of a forwarded messge to me that had been sent to him "Me? twisted?ur really self conceited tuat! im here n hospital with ur daughter who has been il&leting me know ur hacker! f*** yourself mart il C U n court!"

Now let me analyze this his wife used the baby as punishment against him because she did not ever want him to see her. Now that was what he had told his attorney. You people say she loves her husband but she is not actting in any wifely manner as I can see here?

Sure she is marreid by paper and according to Martin also a legal Pre-nuptial agreement had been done between them and from what Martin said his wife was not happy about said such pre-nupts.
It must be a good feeling to be hateful and end up with very nice paid for accomodations made and paid for by a man who once really did love her but in the past few months I had spent plenty of time trying to calm down my freind from all the wives loving maliciousness and and then she has the FRICKEN AUDACITY to say that she loves him?...Please give it a break!

Is that how you show your affection to someone you love and marreid with?

She was never around to help him find his perpatrators when he was having all the previous homicide. attempts on him.

I do not know what his wife beleifs are about really loving someone and showing him in the right way and not the ways that are shown down below.

One Junrey Palinosa above accused personhad the intent to kill, with evident premeditation, treachery and superior strength, without  affording the latter an oppurtunity to defend himself, did then and there willfully, unlawfully and feloniously shoot a certain MARTIN ANDREW WILLIAMS with the use of a firearm, thus the accused had commenced the commission of the crime of Murder directly overt acts, but he could not carry put his criminal puropse of killing the victim by reason of cause other than his own spontaneous desistance, to wit: poor aim by the accused in hitting the victim and when an employee of the victim shouted to the victim to get inside the bar; to the damage and prejudiced of the victimin the amount to be proved during trial.

Acts committed contrary to the provisions of Article 248 in relation to Article 6 and 50 of the Revised Penal Code as amended.
Tagbilaran City, Bohol Philippines, March 10, 2009

Junrey was given the oppurtunity to submit controverting evidence, but he did not do so.
The court decided that there was reasonable ground to beleive that the crime of ATTEMPTED MURDER has been committed and that the above named is probably guilty thereof.

If you recall the last affidavit it was said that Ludy Vanessa Gallow identifeid the shooter as Junrey and he told her that he was hired allegedly the mastermind of said shooting but had later changed her stories with the Panglao police.

She turned around instead of being a witness in the shooting to accussing Martin of alleged rape?

The charges were dismissed as they were considered fabricated storeis from the complaintives.

I am only printing what I have and what is available to the public as open recorde to the public.









So I think it is absolutley appropriate to question the circumstances as either circumstancail, non aggravated, or accidental?




I could not help but memersize some of them as Martin would show and forward to us his freinds and family.


Yeah I see those as loviung words intended for your loved one...ahem!

Now as far as the other items listed I do not know about.

Whats on public document is stated and being held by the police are the following items.



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Thanks for the update, it goes without saying that there is a lot more sinister to this than just the capture of Gulle commiting the murder. This has to be investigated properly to bring peace to your province and justice for Martin. The others murderers and the peole who paid for the job to be done must be brought to justice also.

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justice for martin that's all we want to punish who killed him but, can we just leave it to d investigator? or u want to work like them as well? i've read what u post here n i understand that u will depend martin because his ur friend but pls. stop posting nonsense in here just leave it to d authority. peace..

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"justice for martin that's all we want to punish who killed him but, can we just leave it to d investigator? or u want to work like them as well? i've read what u post here n i understand that u will depend martin because his ur friend but pls. stop posting nonsense in here just leave it to d authority. peace.." (Quote from Ning)

Could you please be more specific in what you are refering to as nonsense?

I do not call affidavits and court resolutions and text messsages nonsense what I call nonsense is breaking and entering into a house which had changed locked and she does not or has not actted like a wife for some time and it is way longer then december as she claims it to be! Her intentions are clear to get to the gatherd evidence Martin had against her so there would be no linkages to her having to do anything that had happened to him in the past.

As i and many have said and feel Martin was damn right in how she was choreographing the every move.

It takes a real bitch of a wife to take women to the police station after one or two days after he was murdered.
Just who the hell does she think she is?
She did not care or still does not care and of course she will go after Gulle who is the fallguy in this sittuation as he could not and would not ever handle martin alone Gulle is too small and martin was large sized and to be able to do that much dammage on his own come on get real.

Martin in no way in hell would of been so stupoid to go to the boloc boloc spring in the night or any time of the day.

martin was already very scared with everything going on Martin was educated to know better.

Boloc boloc is not what you call a walk in the park. It is a hard steep drop down enbankment with some small trees and shrubs and the water is right there which is the Tagbilaran Bay.

Some one was eager to get this Gulle to admit to 14 stabs wounds when at first he admitted to 5 in the begining.

Maybe somebody wants this case closed fast to protect the others involved who assisted Gulle.

Just think if not for the ID being found of Gulle he could still be at large same as the guy who shooted at Martin in last Jan, 2009.

Where is the proof that this woman loves her husband the whole time i knew him I had never seeen her or met her one time.

And what I and others close to Martin did see was not a wife conducting herself as a wife should be.

Where is the proof? do not tell me a kid is your prooof because two retards can get it on and not love each other and make a kid.

I hear the negativeness of the freinds of this woman not just her alone and then we have a small precious child made of Martin and her mother and the mom shows pure hatredness towards the father. I am concerned for this childs environment when I and others see the atttude s going on that are not suitable for a small child to e around.

Maybe the mom since she gets along with the inlaws should let the child stay in UK with her husbands family since she has a UK passport and take a relax and prepare for going to work and getting her life put back together.

It is already too late to prove her love to her husband he is murdered.

traditional Filipino custom a family stays together through thick and thin and tries hard to work throught the toughest times.
Why do I see many women estranged from they're husbands in Philippines and then you see those men even Philippine going after other women behing they're wives backs?

Even foreigner men do the same thing. I am in total favor of the divorce law for the Philippines.

Why hang on to the mold  when it has gathered bad yeasts and boring warn out flavor.

I am really not in the energetic mood to open up anymore topics.

I am with out a doubt humanly discusted in how the Philippine police force handled this case, and other cases of similair bearing.

I probably would enjoy meeting Martins little girl I have heard many wonderfull things about how cute she is.







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girlnextdoor just wanna make clear things up to u..je told me that martins mobile is in police thats y gulle commited robbery with homicide coz he get the mobile, money and keys of motorbike.and i think if thats involve in the crime scene that mobile will never go to je..dnt tel me our police in phil doesnt have any knowledge of keeping evidences..i realy dont think so..and pls stop braging je ..y dont u talk to her personally before talking here lies..im sory about this..i myht have hols and c this situation myslef..its realy easy here to write text message if we wanted too u knw..anybody can do it...but prove it first...and about amys custody...ur telling here that amy should be look after by martins parents? how would u feel if ur daughter will be away from u ?esp if shes just 1YR OLD??how would u feel that?u dnt knw hows the feeling of being a mother then...and i think martins parent are old..when i meet them 2 yrs ago..they just about in 70's so do u think they still have energy for that??huh?i dnt think so honey...and please y dnt u talk to GULLE and BORJA which are the killers instead of posting here lies ok!have a nice day madam

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and please dnt involve the police here. we should be thankful with them that suspects are caught..not like the other cases..wat if theres no suspects?im sure u will accuse police again..why dnt u become a police so that ul knw how hard to be a polce man..my dad is a police man and he died in shooting incident...so pls dn involve them it hurts on my side that u accuse police..they try to work hard to get martins justice and now its nearly serve so WAIT AND SEE OK!

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WE need JUSTICE not LIES  and  FABRICATED STORIES ok...all u do is accuse accuse accuse..set back and relax..keep ur fat asses cool down ..drink a pint of beers and get more calories and more fats heheheh

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t.g.n.door, Thank you for the update. Makes interesting reading ......

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ur so pathetic tgnd u dont know s**t u admit  u havent meet her yet then u talk too much about her come on! ur such a liar!

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to jfm the murderers hve been caught they have pleaded guilty end of story.why would this people plea guilty to murder if they were innocent end of story.
once again as i have already stated the police said if nobody files a prosecutions the murderer would be set free,so why would gee prosecute them if she had paid them if you only had the basic of intelegence jfm,patman,next door,steve etc. the facts of the case would be plane to see end of story.


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Chona,abby,ning,gee ect, you really are all very amusing, do you not read the facts ?? The whole reason of this site is because this is not yet a closed case. There are other murderers there are people who have paid for this to be done and we will fight till justice is served, i can state all the facts again for you if you wish, but i am presuming you have read everything that has been said here. So NO, it is not the end of the story. Infact it is very far from the end of the story.

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Goodness me, this is becoming more like a blast from the past, when i was fighting for justice for my father. Now what i see here are Martins lovely friends and family only wanting to get to the bottom of his murder but also the previous attempts which have to be connected no-one could possibly be that unlucky to have that many attempts on his life, you would have a better chance of winning the lottery. Then you have people like Chona and Ning who are the two people who know what went on and are trying there best to get people off track, but it just isnt working,and they resort to cheap tactics, then theres a friend of the wife,abby who does not want to believe she has any connection, but incriminates her without even realising shes doing it. Just keep fighting, dont let it be the end of the story until you have your justice.

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to jfm the murderers hve been caught they have pleaded guilty end of story.why would this people plea guilty to murder if they were innocent end of story.
once again as i have already stated the police said if nobody files a prosecutions the murderer would be set free,so why would gee prosecute them if she had paid them if you only had the basic of intelegence jfm,patman,next door,steve etc. the facts of the case would be plane to see end of story.

This all sounds and looks like you all wont to end the story soon as possible, When you do bad things they allways cum back and biet you on the ass . Iv never herd so much crap in how to justifie a mans death , I hope the real and lovein people of Bohol have read this and see wot the wife has said about the man she loved , Takeing girls to the police and crying rape ,,,,, Saying goodnite in a tex 15mins before he wos shot at , a thing she never did because they wernt together , 

If i gave her a fishing rod she would sell it , She hasernt got the brains to go fishing and cach fish for the week, Hay ho love you all

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The bible has a great deal to say about revenge.
The key verse regarding this truth is found in the old testament and is quoted twice in the new testament.
God said-
"It is mine to avenge, i will repay, In due time their foot will slip, their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them."

(And god is on our side.)

BELIEVE THIS QUOTE-ITS VERY TRUE.

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I would just like to quote what abby said on the previous page that - Je (Martins wife) told her that Gulle commited the robbery with homicide to get Martins phone,money and keys to his bike. What happened to the story that he went to the aid of Borja ? Liars will always slip up and hang themselves.

Or was that to have been his payment for his part in the crime ?


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ur one of them JFM  u called them lier and u? the great pretender???  ;D

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hi im thalia one of martins friend to be honest i was working with him we are his first bar girls we are 5 together since martin arrived together with his family in phil until the wife go back to uk bcoz martin sign her application for renewal visa and follow them but martin change his mind not to go in uk anymore coz he enjoying himself with us ...to be honest i was her girlfriend but its my job "trabaho lang walang personalan" kaingon ko ug kami nagayod pero dili lang diay ako ra gi horot diay mi tanang bar girls ug gamit nya so mao nga nagpalayo nalang ako until i found out his dead,to be honest its good for everybody that his gone and panglao will be have peace in mind coz girls are fighting with him...so hope he will be rest in peace..colin and edit know me coz during their holidays in phil.i was with martin they stay in martins house couple of days....its me thalia remember that martin never buy  food for us and feed us as his employeer...
excause me when we went in martin house i dont know the name thalia there is only dimmy and maila and there they only one who mention about the food so get the fact 
 correct, colin challaged martin about the food and admitted thats sometimes they run short and when he out all the time and he out a lot he tends to forget if there is enough food in the house and we told the girls to remind him when they run short ,then we went to the market to stock on food for them we bought our food and dimmy and maila said there are happy they feel relax most of our two days the two girls with the female friend of martin eat out at restaurant where martin pay there meals and we pay our own at the night time in the club and they seem happy and relaxed as can be seen in our film and photo's and made up with the tips at the end of the night,colin told them to text me if martin did not look after us,
as we know both parties we have tried to keep out of this and let the law find the truth untill our name was mentioned, ???

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guys ur too much here..crusaderfreedom and jusice for martin..its easy to accuse but its hard to prove esp if the accused is innocent..i was talkin to je..she said plenty of people intersted in bar..someone offerd her to rent ,sell or be partner on here but she refuses them all..she was crying wen i talk 2 here..she said lastwek of april she went in hall of justice coz of the prelim investigation of her husband..she seen irene..she said the bitch cry in front of the fiscal so dat she will not prove guilty..she wana smack the lady but her mum stop here for the killer bring oll the families which rely looks scary. so if i were u guys instead of accusing je why dnt u open ur eyes and accept that the killers are caught instead of accusing...i knw colin and edit..they just being frend wih martin coz they think they can have holiday in bohol for free..huh...i dnt like that couple .b4 they are the one who wants martin to put in jail wen martin and je have a big fyht in uk coz martin lay hands on je which give bruises..i remember edit said go walk in center and report martin police but je said no i wanna save my marriage and love martin.i dnt care if u get mad on me edit and colin but ur too much here..u knw d couple they just users...hey i seen u edit lastxmas party..ur still arogant same as ur boustful husband..sory guys its just i dnt like u both....c u in filipino party again

yes Editha went to the police to help surport herand we told Martin because of the alligation,she didn't want any charges and admitted she was to blame as well as they was both drunk,
You was still friends Mhardie when we was playing marriage guidence between them,we told both that they bad as one another ,Martin asked in front of us if gei minded him going to help build the house so it be ready for them and if she can manage ok even that the baby was only a few months old as we said it would only be like he had a job abroad for a few months,as it is only 3 weeks,she agreed and told him to book the flight,
Whats Up Mhardie are you jealouse as we stayed in the house and Martin would not let you and Joe stay ,O BY THE WAY "2  NIGHTS IS NOT A HOLIDAY OF COURSE HE DID NOT CHARGE US AS WE NOT CHARGE HIM FOR TAKING AND COLLECTING FROM THE AIRPORT ,as we did it as friends also WE took cash and personal items for him ,
oh this is suposed to be a blog not a private attack on people???you might be correct that I'm arrogant thats me but I still help people and as I was lucky with some REDHILL shares was so from 40p to near £3 like to buy desighner dresses for editha and shirts  for me maybe correct again so you dont like us both as you dont need our help now same hear at least we not two faced like you and talk behind your back

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the  blog getting intresting ,it make a 100 enough for a film????a few more new names sounds that they could have somthing intresting to say as it seems they know the black widow ,Gei sounds like ruth ellis slim buitifull crafty sceaming ,clever but the last english woman hanged for murder.why is it tthat Ning, Jan jan ,Chona,Abby and a couple more seem to be the same 2 people or a close circle each one telling the other what to say,and repeating the same defence and accusations,Problem as she corrupt police in the family and dangerouse family members over hear in Bohol as I know a few of them, justice will be hard to come by,but as time goes by and money runs out it gets harder to cover up ,so except you will have many sleepless nights,gei said she only wanted justice as she must have collected half a million from his eastate why not put this up as a reward or even a million from his easte worth 15,000,000  and show to everone one that finding out the real people behind the murder (not the fall guy's)means more than his eastate I.m sure amy would prefere the real murder be found than a big haunted house

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JFM,am glad you also noticed one of the things i was refering to when i said abby was incriminating the wife without even realising  she was doing so.. I also thought Gully said he stabbed Martin as he went to the aid of Borja. This case is so flawed and anyone can see this just by readin this blog, it doesnt take a person with a high IQ to realise that.




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Yes, Dolphin, i did notice, and your right it doesnt take a clever person to know theres so much more to this crime.

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girlnextdoor just wanna make clear things up to u..je told me that martins mobile is in police thats y gulle commited robbery with homicide coz he get the mobile, money and keys of motorbike.and i t
hink if thats involve in the crime scene that mobile will never go to je..



SORRY HERES THE QUOTE FROM ABBY, I AM A COMPUTER NUMPTY AND NOT VERY GOOD AT PICKING OUT AND QUOTING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID.

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jfm just be true to urself and mind ur own business because ur too much lad ;D

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 :D hey what a nice english ha?,unsaman ka oy  taronga nangabungi man imong english,pagbisaya nalang para makasabot ming tanang tagabohol,ingon sila dugay naka sa uk pakaulaw kalang diha pinay laba pod me, its clear ur an educated person!

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I have been taking note of what has been said over the last week or so, a man has been murdered(martin from the uk) and ther seems to be some daught over his death it was  a terrible  thing to have happened,Martin has a daughter  to his wife who i presume is looking after her and i think the energy being  used on this site should be directed towards his daughter as to how she is and her welfare.I have also read on this sites that the murderers have been apprehended by the police and they have pleaded guilty if they pleaded guilty it must be them ? who committed this  terrible crime and therefore justice seems to have been done!obviously depending on the term of the sentense so as in the words of chona end of story but we have to wait for the end of the story!(the sentence).

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Bob, no-one disagrees that one of the murderers has been caught,pleaded guilty and will be sentenced accordingly. What is everyones concern is that there was more than one murderer, which is a known fact, so tell me why you think any other murderer should walk free? There is also connections with the other attempts on Martins life,these are the reasons why this story is not at an end.
With regards to Amys welfare, dont you agree it would be wrong to allow other murderers of her father to be able to walk the streets freely? It is in his daughters interest and well being, that they are all caught.

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Well well well bob or shall i call you Joey Jones the Taxi driver from Wavertree,Liverpool, infact the cottage nextdoor to the coffee house  ,  The guy married to the sister of the black widow. the so called brother in-law of the late Martin Williams. I have done many a business deal with Martin and spoke to him on many occasions like he said to you he has many friends in Liverpool, which he has, and he told me about you, after the time you had a heated discusion with him about his marriage, which i know all about. Wind your neck in, its in your best interest. 


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Girlseekingfacts not thegirlnextdoor!!!

Two questions which i have een repeating one i think going on 4 times with out it being answered as of yet?

the second question has not been asked.

Repeated first Question "Where was the wife during her husbands other homicide attempts and why did she not help him like any other average wife would do inorder to find who it was that was wanting to kill her husband on the other previous attempts?"

Second question, At what time was the wife notifeid  of her husbands murder and who was she informed by?

 Third quetion, How did this person know how to inform her as the wife?

Just looking for facts and not wanting to be accused as being a liar so lets hear the answers in here from someone who has the answers.

If she loves her husband then the questions should be answered as they are not difficult ones.

Thanks for the time to read and answer the question.

her police affidavit just states in Item #2

"That on march 24, 2009 I was on my place in Leyte when I was informed that my husband was killed by an undentifeid assailant on the night of March 23. 2009 particularly at Bok-Bok Spring, Mansasa District, Tabilaran City."

It does not give a time when she was notifeid or a name of a person person who had informed her about her husbands death.

Could we the people of this forum please have some clearity to the questions being asked as we are just wanting facts and answers.

Thank you!

When my mom'husband was killed in a car accident she was notifeid across state in person by a county sherrif that her husband had been found dead. Now if the husband is killed in New York and the wife is in Seattle it is very much a distance but she was notifeid by authoriteis of the law.

Now Maasin and Bohol ar neighboring ports so who was it from the law that notifeid Mhargie of her husbands death?

It is standard procedure that someone with in the law be the one to notify the next of kin that there loved one was found dead.

This would help if we know the time that she was notifeid by and the person who knew of her husbands death and how was this person connected in knowing it was her husband, and how was his relation in knowing about the death?

Thanks for any information put into this reply for those of us concerned about tseeking the real facts of this case.

Again Thank You!

Happy Weekend Everyone!

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Hey big arse!watever!steve why dont you come here in panglao so that you will know who shot martin last time,its all recorded in police pangalao that was the boyfriend of the girl he rape dont you know that? its fit urself as a bin man because your talking rubbish, if i were you ? ask tony he was at leyte with martin during that time to attend amy's christening to be a godfather but he went back to bohol because they argued about the story that tony been sex with his bar girls which is not!dont u know that story steve?

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Chona, I dont understand y youve decided to come out with this rubbish. The thing is Martin could not have been shot at by someone whos girlfriend he raped as he never raped anyone. He has been cleared of all rape charges. Alligations only, made by his estranged wife and her friends. Seeing as your someone who knows Gee y dont you answer the questions from thegirlnextdoor? Tony , i dont know and have never met, he was one of Martins friends not mine. Like i said i have in my possasion a photo of my friend in the morgue and theres no way this murder was commited by Gulle alone, all i want is all the killers to be caught and anyone else who is behind this. So answer the questions.

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What's that saying...."Silence is Gilden!"

No our intentions are not to make war in here, I see that martin has freinds and famiy in here commenting and I can see that they have many questions that are needing answers.

I can say my intentionsare are not of being called a liar I can read see and recall pretyy well with my eyes and memory, and also when there are publis documents of any case easy to obtain by anyone that can be quoted.

Quoted affadavit testimonies and court resolutions are okay for veiwing and putting into print or to be used as a news item.

There are people in this forum telling others they are liars, so that means those persons calling others liars in here must know a lot about whats going on?

So since we do not want to be known as liars could we please have the answers to the questions that seem to be over looked, and not answered, as if being ignored?

The questions are simple and basic and the answers are simple as well.

The name calling in here has got to stop it is not lady like. If some one wants to make a point there must be some sort of tact and order with a well good set of manner's when wanting to make a point.

I do not want to read replies that tell some one shut up or that calls someone a name.

I want to see people in here act polite and come across smart and convincing.

Everyone has the right to speak but everyone knows how to be cool and polite and too the point so we can help Martin and his wife go after everyone involved with the 6th and final attempt with martin.

Martin had pure fear in him in no way would martin go to the bolok bolok spring alone or with anybody any time of the day or night.

Thats a small but a very big embankment down to the Tagbilaran Bay.

Located just 150-200 mitres from mangrove where he was checked in at.

The wife and her freinds should cooperate and some of the people in here should be fair and listen to all sides and repspect what others say even though we not all of us agree with what everyone says.



October, 2 hit and runs ends up at hospital with broken bones, Jan, fired 2x's by a gun, attempted poisoning twice, and the alleged rape charges, and the final curtain that took place late in the evening of 23rd of March.

I would not like to be acussed of bein a part of any kiling but If it was me being acussed and I was not guilty I would be very kind and stay strong and not let people get me down I would have to stay tough in my heart and kind towards those who care about my husband.




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Well said, i agree with what you say, at the end of the day the only people who would fight against us are the people who have something to hide. Who in the right mind would want a murderer walking freely. ? So what if  i offer double the reward of what the killers have been paid ? Would that help bring justice ? This is not an insult to your people, but like in all countries a reward oftern works or helps if theres no other way to get to the bottom of something that is difficult to solve.





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JFM what r u waiting for? double the reward so u stop saying those words again, the problem is u talk too much less action.

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hmmm mainit na talaga dito ha

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Just for the record if any one reading this wants to take up the offer of any reward, it is very easily arranged through an attorney over there. It would be paid upon the conviction of other partys involved and not just hear say or rumours.

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Heres a bit of interesting information.
It came from an extremley realiable sorce.
It may or may not be anything.
Its that Mhargies sister in the uk is traveling out to see her a week on tuesday, and her plans are to bring Mhargie back to england with her, theres a chance she may not get back into the country as she has to apply for a special pass now to get in, it may be that its a genuine visit as she needs to get away from all her problems at the moment.
But the other thought that has crossed peoples mind is- is she trying to run ? Does she need to hide as she has not got enough money to pay Martins murderers ?
We know shes never been able to get her hands on all his cash hence the reason why shes trying to sell his house and at half of its market value, which she still has had no joy in doing so. Why does she want to sell it ? Why is it not kept a home ? Is she desparate for cash ? These are only questions and thoughts not accusations. 

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oh that was interesting info but anyway everybody can fly anywhere in this world as long as that they can afford their flights not evryone there trying hard to fly not for holidays but making some monkey business ,,well well well i think the wife can still come in the uk as long as the embassy give her a visa and we cannot stop for that okey?well in this situation this is not our business anymore we just pray the truth will come out soon!

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to justice for martin  if i were you just give the reward to the poor in the philippines.

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to justice for martin  if i were you just give the reward to the poor in the philippines.
oh you feeling cocky and conferdent
HOW THE MIGHTY WILL FALL???????????????????????
the DEAD WILL RISE AND THE FINGER WILL BE POINTED

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Well if the Black Widow/Witch has the nerve to step down on british soil there will be one hell of a "Welcoming Committee" waiting for her!!

And why did she make such a song & dance about having Martin buried in the Philippines so that Amy could visit his grave when she was planning on returning to the UK???????

What a Farce!!!!!!!!

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Well if the Black Widow/Witch has the nerve to step down on british soil there will be one hell of a "Welcoming Committee" waiting for her!!

And why did she make such a song & dance about having Martin buried in the Philippines so that Amy could visit his grave when she was planning on returning to the UK???????
to clarify Mhadie in Liverpool is the BLACK WITCH
MHARGIE IN THE PHIL THE MURDERESS  IS THE BLACK WIDOW
and Big Al told us Her address

What a Farce!!!!!!!!

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