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By Kit Bagaipo
The Bohol Chronicle

It shocked an active pensioner of the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) after learning that he appeared in official records as dead.

Celebrating his 86th birthday yesterday, Joseph Sevilla Sr. even went to the GSIS Tagbilaran office two months ago to confirm his status as a pensioner which is required by the GSIS to regularly update its database.

Last week, however, Sevilla received a letter from the GSIS informing him that his name “matched with the National Statistics Office (NSO) records of death.”

Dr. Maria Linda Namocatcat, a daughter of Sevilla, believes that other old-age pensioners could have received a similar letter from the GSIS which appeared to be generic and had blank lines where the names of addresses are to be filled up.

The letter asked Sevilla to prove his existence and that he was not “the same person matched by the NSO” by reporting to the GSIS office and present his eCard together with two valid identification.

Condescending as the letter was, Sevilla was also told that the release of his monthly pension would be delayed if he fails to report at the GSIS office immediately.

The GSIS explained in the letter that the GSIS-NSO matching of database was “necessary for monitoring the status of pensioners” as part of cleansing their records of unqualified pensioners.
Namocatcat told the Chronicle that writing such offensive letter to a pensioner was uncalled for considering the GSIS could have just sent authorized representatives to conduct home visitations to check on the status of its pensioners.

Given that two or more persons’ names matched in the NSO records, it is unlikely that they have similar middle names, addresses, signatures or thumbmarks, Namocatcat pointed out.

She said that the GSIS is adopting a culture of distrust among its clients by presuming that pensioners would tell lies just to get the pension which is rightfully due to them.

“Pensioners should be afforded courtesy,” Namocatcat added saying that his father had served the government well as auditor of the Commission on Audit. Sevilla, who retired at 60, also served as post commander of war veterans in the first district of Tagbilaran.

“We believe there are other old-age pensioners who received the same letter but could not complain, especially those in the towns,” she said.

Although the letter was signed by GSIS Bohol caretaker Cecilia Guinto, Namocatcat was told that the letter came from Manila.

Namocatcat suspects that the GSIS-NSO matching is just another scheme to cut-off payments of pensions of the cash-strapped insurance agency.

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Given that two or more persons’ names matched in the NSO records, it is unlikely that they have similar middle names, addresses, signatures or thumbmarks, Namocatcat pointed out.

Sevilla, aawhat? similar thumbmarks Helloooo! wake up!!!
GSIS is the biggest insurance agency sa Tibuok Pilipinas, and i dont believe nga they just send notice if that name appeard in NSO as dead. Whats wrong with asking some proof?? I used to work at the GSIS and i know how honest that agency was...

Sevilla was not the only pensioner who received that notice for proof. When i was working at the Agency i also encountered the same problem with one client. And you know what? they comply the requirements, easy...

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Tsk tsk, it sounds bad!

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I agree with you aa, ang uban mabaw kaayo ug pangutok! mabaw ra jud! Ug mahitabo nga naay mga ghost pensioners, mahitabo na sad nga FRAUD! unya pasanginlan na sad ang Agency nga wala nag pakabana! shaln ba ning mga tawo oi! Mao jud diay nga ang Pilipinas di mausab....Usa na ka example si Sevilla, nga pangayuan ra ug documents, himuon naman nga SCANDAL!

Philippines will always be the same, FOREVER. (murag kanta)

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bitaw sad aa, hahahah! abi mo di baya tingali na scandal ang sinugdanan ana, basi si Sevilla nangita ra ug tambag, mao nay gidangat sad nga gihimo ug scandal sa nag tambag. I agree with you again aa! apir!

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correct jud mong duha...i think, asking for proof or any kind of document is not a big deal...it's natural for any kind of agency to ask for documents specially when the've found something like what happened...that's the exact thing to do, ask for proof!!!
dili man siguro nagpasabot ang letter ug murag nag apas ang pensioner ug money, ning sunod lang sila ug process kanang gi ingon ug wala pagpataka ba!!!

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mao si joseph sevilla kadtong former reservist sa military? kani nga scandal, gipasingugdahan napud ni winston garcia. baga jud kaayo ug nawong ning tawhana, kay di jud mo-resign bisan unsaon ug malmal sa mga employees sa GSIS ug sa mga pensioners. tsk tsk tsk. basin usa nasad ni sa ilang pangawarta.

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mao niy dapat asikasohin ni winston garcia!

pesteng y*&^% ning gobernoha! (soory 4 my language)

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maayo pag duha ka agency ang dad-on ni dodong neri, ang SSS ug GSIS. pwede ba kaha?

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pastilan paita diay no maa an diay tag patay na ani .. hoy gsis.. pagmata na mo oi...

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Dili man cguro pod malikajan nga mghunahuna ang tawo nga usa ni ka scheme to cut-off the pension. About pod sa SSS nka-experience akng lola nga na cut-off iya pension kay kuno ang coordinator nila sa una nga didto sila magbayad na-disqualified kay wla i-remit ang bayad. Sa tanan nga kauban sa akong lola nga sakop sa maong coordinator morag sya lang ang na cut-off tungod sa maong rason, dili tungod kay dunay deperensya ang iyang personal nga mga records. Hangtod namatay sya wla jud mabalik iyang pension. Dili ba morag makaingon ta nga dunay anomaliya?

I'm not against the agency kay basin naa jud sila'y pasikaranan nga gi cut-off nila - ako lang gihatag akong opinion bahin ani nga sitwasyon. NO offense to the parties involved...

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additional article:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view_article.php?article_id=159659

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tinood jud naa jud na sila gibasihan ug naga sunod jud na sila ug balaud ug mga office orders. about sa kaso sa imo lola naa jud to sya valid reason (nganong na cut-off), ug cguro mas masabtan pa to nimo jud unta kung kaw niuban sa imong lola pag adto sa maong ahensya ug nag pa explain ug tarong nganong ingon adto ang nahitabo, i'm sure detalye jud ka explanan sa taga sss ba kung ngano (so far walay anomaliya ang sss nga imong madunggan aside lang sa mga pipila ka fraudulents nga dili malikayan nga ginahimo sa mga way puangud nga mga fixer nga dili taga sss pero gina tutukan na nila nga ma prevent ug dili na makalusot).

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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view_article.php?article_id=159659


Ray thank you for pasting this link. This is very informative. There was nothing wrong about this. This was not a scandal at all! Why are people makig this a scandal that this are all about legalities? Yes it was insulting but this is not a SCANDALOUS  motive of the agency!

Bisan diri sa Merica naay mga ing ana nga panghitabo.Ang atong mga katawhan mas sensitive lang kaayo,which i cant blame kay part man na sa atong culture.



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Pero kadto rman jud nga hinungdan ang giingon sa tga SSS kay lagi wla i-remit ang bayad. Nkahinumdom diay pod ko nga dihay kauban sa ako lola nga na cut-off pero nabalik ra kay gi-asikaso sa usa ka abogado. pero sa akong lola wa jud mabalik bsan giasikaso sa mao ra gahapon nga abogado. Other than that wa nay lain pang rason nga gihatag ang SSS. Mkapangutana lang ko ngano kaha nga naingon adto?

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since wala pa man jud diay nimo masabtan nganong ingon adto ang nahitabo, pwede man nga ikaw mismo ang moadto ug tukion nimo kung ngano, duol ka lang sa ila manager ug ayaw hawa hangtud nga ki da masatisfied sa ilang explanation. 

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Og instead of helping them to realize what really happen ipangduot na man hinuon. Government employees are hired to serve not to complain.


I think you didn't get the whole thing Sir/Ma'am, if you will go back and read the news link that was posted in previous pages then you would've known what you have to  say. When you say "Government employees are hired to serve not to complain" I dont see and had never analyzed this move as a COMPLAIN from the government.

And one more thing, if these people are already paranoid of the government's handling towards them-I ask you, WHO CHOOSED THESE GOVERNMENT? Isn't it the PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS COMPALAIN ITSELF?

WAKE UP FILIPINOS! DONT JUST COMPLAIN!! DO SOMETHING!


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Taym pa, before ko ninghawa sa Pinas sa GSIS baja ko nag work. I am just making this straight kay i know GSIS very well. Sa paghawa nako ang computer namo LAN pa to wala pay internet. so ug naay mo apply ug loan or retirement, intawon amo intawon na i mano mano ang mga payment ninyo kada page ug kada buwan usa i analyze ug pila ang madawat sa applicant...

Karon kung ang applicant retiree, huna hunaa, pila ka buwan ug tuig sha nag work? mao na ka daghan among ukabon nga books sa ilang mga payments and everything. And yet we stayed longer to catch up sa mga loans and retirement applicants usahay without pay pa na kay para lang ma release namo na the next day. (Mao ako jud ni klarohon) Ang GSIS dili preha sa Capitol ug Cityhall employees nga mas daghang lingkod kay sa trabahoonon ug ayaw mo ka suko kay kani tinuod, Kadaghan sa City Hall ug Capitol ug uban pang Engineering Department nga ug naay ipalihok sukipan ug pila ka pesos ang lamano sa Head of the Department! Helllloooo! Knock-knock!!. Pila nato diri taga TB nga nag work sa GSIS and pila sad ang nag work sa City ug Province? Karon i will ask you FACE-TO-FACE how busy and rigid  are your job compared to the GSIS workers? Ayaw ko ninyo ingna nga lain ko ug batasan kay por que naa ko sa Amerika, I am fair. I am only making these things clear kay murag wa jud hinungdan ang mga reklamo dayun himuon nga BAKAK or sa eninglis pa LIE! (kanang title nga Scandal is a big LIE!!!) Wa koy gilabanan ninyo tanan kay bisan unsaon wa na jud koy mahimo sa pagtabang ninyo but to tell you all- If you have complain, tell it straight to the person you want to complain, para mahigmata sad na sila and dont be scared kay naa na ta sa bag-o nga millenia wa na ma uso ang hadlok2x kay kinaraaan na na.

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sorry ms da binsi my worst experience was not with GSIS coz i was not a government worker before.  Anyway i agree with you that the title SCANDAL is a lie bec it's not really the proper word. Kahibalo na man ka sa pinas nga pag uso sa scandal tanang panghitabo scandal na. I do appreciate your hardworks during your time in GSIS. I never knew nga manomano pa diay mo on your time. However, I believe GSIS for the moment has adopted the new technology. And i do believe that delays should no longer be an excuse for such new development. I also salute for your valor to uncover those under the table systems in some offices in the city hall and provincial offices. I hope somebody would be courageous enough to stop this very unbecoming practice.

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unsaon man gud nga pet man sa mga arroyo ang mga garcia sa cebu. tanang mga anak ni pablo dunay gihuptan nga ranggo sa goberno agig bayad sa ilang natabang nga pagpanikas ni gloria sa 2004 election.

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Fdaray, i think it is not the agency's job to deduct the employees' payment, it is the employers job to submit the right stuff to the GSIS.

Filipinos really are hard to understand and very difficult to please...I cant blame them because they were ruled with very crook government.

And I dont blame the government because the crook people choose them too...vice versa!

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Wala tingali pa gi submit sa imong employer Daray. Kay abi nimo dili man ang GSIS ang mo kolekta sa mga payment from the employers, it is your employers job to send it to GSIS.

And i would strongly disagree when you say nga corrupt ang GSIS. You may use another word kay i know very much about that agency. Kay ug corrupt pa na nga agency, i know for sure by this time dili na ka maka retire like what happend here in the US.

I jsut want to let the people know nga dili corrupt ang GSIS. Maybe hinay lang ilang pamaagi kay tungod nga ila man ginabalhin tanang data into computerisation and guess what, ibalhin gud na tagsa2x ang tanan nga payments, and how many employees there are sa inyung lugar? it is a long process of tansistion i may say.

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This is the how the AMC is derived. 


Under the new GSIS retirement law, the average of my actual salary upon retirement and my salary the last three years was taken. The result, called my average monthly compensation or AMC, represented my monthly pension, which is actually almost half of my actual salary upon retirement.

Because of the new GSIS retirement law, a lot was taken from my monthly pension. One can only guess where the excess after the AMC was taken went. Probably to sustain the fat salaries and whopping retirement benefits of GSIS officials and employees who, upon retirement, become instant millionaires.


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Cruel GSIS deductions from retirement benefits



Inquirer
First Posted 00:54am (Mla time) 04/02/2007

Filed Under: Government, Retirement, Wages & Pensions


THIS IS RELATED TO THE LETTER OF ANTOnio N. Domingo of Laoag City. (Inquirer, 2/14/07) I am the president of the 10,000-strong Camarines Sur Teachers and Employees Association (Castea) Inc. As such, I have received similar complaints from members of our organization - teachers and retirees - but it is only now that I understood their outrage.

I received last January the proceeds of my matured policy. The voucher showed that I was charged the amount of P42,081.92 as premium in arrears, detailed as follows:
Personal share premium arrears: P4,067.37
Personal share interest: P6,024.73
Government share premium arrears: P12,264.26
Government share interest: P19,725.56
Total: P42,081.92

Almost all government employees who retired since Winston Garcia took over management of the Government Service Insurance System, complained about such deductions -from P60,000 to P80,000 - from their retirement benefits. Also noted were deductions for calamity loans of teacher-victims of Typhoons Milenyo and Reming.

Obviously, it is the Department of Education that failed to remit the right amount of personal and government shares to the GSIS. And now because of this negligence or incompetence, the interest has become bigger than the principal. By deducting from the teachers' retirement benefits the personal and government shares plus interest, the GSIS has been so cruel, sadistic and insensitive. Some teachers could only cry and others were at a point that "kulang na lang ang magwala sa GSIS office" (short of running amuck at the GSIS office) when they received their check for P20 or none at all, because they were "deficit pa nga," so they were told.

To emphasize, it is patently unfair to charge the unpaid personal and government shares to the retirees. These shares are supposed to be remitted by the government. The retirees, even during their active employment, had no control over the remittance of the funds. It was solely government's responsibility.

We deserve to be refunded the big amount. We are not responsible for the failure of the government to pay its obligations.

How do we get the amount back? Whom shall we call upon to come to the rescue of our poor teachers and retirees? The education secretary? The budget secretary? Our legislators? The President of the Republic? Please help us!

DELFINA B. OLA—O,
president,
Camarines Sur Teachers
and Employees Association (Castea) Inc.,


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re: Obviously, it is the Department of Education that failed to remit the right amount of personal and government shares to the GSIS. And now because of this negligence or incompetence, the interest has become bigger than the principal. By deducting from the teachers' retirement benefits the personal and government shares plus interest, the GSIS has been so cruel, sadistic and insensitive.

Then how could it be a GSIS cruelty?

Who is stupid here? the people who complain? the Delfina? The Inquirer? or the DECS mismo?




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