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Do you think you could have had better opportunities at work if you went to a more well-known school? O ang paningkamot ug kaugalingon nga abilidad ang mas importante sa kinabuhi?

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Re: Do you think the name of your school made a difference in your career?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2009, 11:28:26 PM »
I finished my college in Ateneo de Davao and the name sells. I was taken as an employee at  the Davao City hall. The answer is yes.

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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2009, 01:46:44 AM »
Do you think you could have had better opportunities at work if you went to a more well-known school? O ang paningkamot ug kaugalingon nga abilidad ang mas importante sa kinabuhi?


Both Sir....pero mora naa pa sa ato nang Motto: "Hire the Kapit...es as the Fittest!", di ba?

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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2009, 06:11:45 AM »
I attended an American Public High School, part of their Engineering Academy, which prepared me for a future in Engineering Sciences. During my high school years I was interested in going into Biomedical Engineering/ Biomechanical Engineering.

As it turned out, through the Williamstown High School Academy of Engineering Sciences, I was able to land on a medical internship: The National Youth Leadership Forum on Medicine, which was held in Georgetown University.

It was in The NYLF program that I was exposed to medicine, the specialties, the career options. It was there that I grew more interested in medical sciences. Thanks to the program.

I attended the prestigious Allegheny College in Northern Pennsylvania, a private liberal arts college, which is one of the oldest private institutions in the United States. I was given an academic scholarship to Allegheny College, a scholarship program that granted me $40,000 Allegheny College Trustees Scholarship.

I was a double major in Molecular Limnology and History. I graduated Allegheny as a S.C.L.
I was exposed to hands on learning  as a biology research student, and active in teaching; worked in the side as a T.A (Teacher's Assistant) teaching molecular labs, micro labs, and history classes). Allegheny tapped on my work ethic, and exposed me to a ravenous competitive work ethic. Allegheny College taught us the meaning of work, and intellectual stimulation: sleeping for 4-5 hours a day, writing 10-15 paged papers every other day, and helping out the common man. The college embraced environmental conservatism, as well as a plethora of philantropic works including town growth, campus-town friendship collective works --> blood drives, food drives, volunteering works etc. etc. To which I can humbly say I partook of, thanks to that wonderful ALLEGHENY education.

It was one of the most intellectually stimulating times of my life, through my experiences in the Engineering Academy, which taught me leadership skills and management control, and through my hands on potential that was guaranteed in my education at Allegheny, I was motivated to pursue a medical path.

I thought about going into Podiatric Medicine and Allopathic Medicine. My stay in Allegheny College paved my way to get accepted into a medical internship at the Ohio College of Podiatric Medicine, which guaranteed and accepted me into the Fall 2008 class. The 2 week internship was breathtaking, and showed me the multifaceted aspect of Podiatric Medicine (Medical specialty in Foot/Ankle/Lower Anatomy). For a time I was thinking about going into Podiatric Surgery, but was exposed to the different aspects of medicine in that specialty.

I was accepted to a 7 year M.D & Ph.D program at St. James School of Medicine and chose that path. With an interest in going into: Psychiatry, Internal Medicine or Surgery.

Do I think my education prepared me for my path? Absolutely.

Though I attribute academic success to three things: 1) The insitution's affiliates and 2) Personal motivation and drive. and the most important of all 3) Providence's Divine Grace...which augments personal skill/drive. especially in average students like myself.







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Re: Do you think the name of your school made a difference in your career?
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2009, 06:35:45 AM »
Do you think you could have had better opportunities at work if you went to a more well-known school? O ang paningkamot ug kaugalingon nga abilidad ang mas importante sa kinabuhi?


Nag graduate ko sa akong college degree sa University of Mindanao.  The school wasn't that fancy but I didn't have a hard time finding a job after I graduated.  I was not the best english speaker as those who graduated from the best schools or to those who came from family who spoke english at their respective homes, but whatever deficiency I had in that aspect, I filled it with my dedication to my work and my determination to be the best in what I was tasked to do.

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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2009, 06:54:55 AM »
Inday Grace, your endurance and determination is a feat!

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Lorenzo, I salute your accomplishements, you did really used the opprtunity that came your way, God bless.


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Re: Do you think the name of your school made a difference in your career?
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2009, 07:13:09 AM »
Diri sa Merika mo count jud ang name sa schools. Hinoon makatrabaho man jud tanan pero ang mga ning graduate sa mga prestigeous schools dako ug porohan sa mga dagko ug sweldo. Gi pakita bitaw na sa MSNBC one time, nga most CEO's came from sikat nga schools.

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2009, 07:32:06 AM »
belle, mao kana ang networking, they have some sense of belongingness.

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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2009, 08:09:02 AM »
There are alot of resources that can catapult an individual to success, one has to take the reigns of the opportunities and outlets available for aid. There are hundreds if not thousands of scholarship grants out there ready to be tapped, ready to be applied and vied for.

One has to take the initiative to talk to alumni, talk to resource personnel. If you want an internship for a speciality that marks your interest, then make the first strike.

Work on volunteering programs, take leadership positions in organizations, that builds up your resume. Be competitive, be resilient and don't be afraid to speak your mind.

To be a leader is to be not afraid to talk when you have to talk. Not afraid to be corrected when you are wrong, and have the drive to infer information and correct someone/people when you know you are right.

College is the best time to tap into your personal strengths, and people to people skills.

This is my word of advice.


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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2009, 08:11:29 AM »
Manay,

I agree with that jud. Networking.

I was part of two honors fraternity in college: Phi Alpha Theta (Honors History), and Beta Beta Beta (Honors Biology).

The fraternities that I belonged to helped in graduate applications.

As well as making your name known. It is all about networking and taking the initiative.



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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2009, 08:22:47 AM »
Do you think you could have had better opportunities at work if you went to a more well-known school? O ang paningkamot ug kaugalingon nga abilidad ang mas importante sa kinabuhi?

For landing good jobs and succeeding therein, and living a comfortable enough life, perhaps your school matters. But for man-size accomplishments, it certainly doesn't.

 

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2009, 08:28:41 AM »

Nag graduate ko sa akong college degree sa University of Mindanao.  The school wasn't that fancy but I didn't have a hard time finding a job after I graduated.  I was not the best english speaker as those who graduated from the best schools or to those who came from family who spoke english at their respective homes, but whatever deficiency I had in that aspect, I filled it with my dedication to my work and my determination to be the best in what I was tasked to do.

Ate Ging, hard work and determination surmounts over anything. Always remember that.

I can tell you truthfully that I am an average student. I don't have a photographic memory as some of my colleagues in medicine. It is the blood, sweat, and stress of constant studying, and resiliency in never giving up that has proven effective.

Work ethic and dedication speaks about a person and illustrates the breadth of his or her drive.

The greatest physician/surgeons, lawyers, politicians, bankers, were not the ones that were the top of their class, but the ones that were the hardest workers. Because beyond memory retention, it is work ethic and a determined mind that eventually...wins the race.

God Bless!

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2009, 08:59:51 AM »
Ate Ging, hard work and determination surmounts over anything. Always remember that.

I can tell you truthfully that I am an average student. I don't have a photographic memory as some of my colleagues in medicine. It is the blood, sweat, and stress of constant studying, and resiliency in never giving up that has proven effective.

Work ethic and dedication speaks about a person and illustrates the breadth of his or her drive.

The greatest physician/surgeons, lawyers, politicians, bankers, were not the ones that were the top of their class, but the ones that were the hardest workers. Because beyond memory retention, it is work ethic and a determined mind that eventually...wins the race.

God Bless!

I agree, Dong.  I was really passionate in my job then.  I was a result-oriented person. 

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2009, 09:11:52 AM »
In the end, that is what counts, 'te.

Success depends on an individual's personal drive, commitment, determination. Add a little smarts, mao na! hehehe



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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2009, 09:12:42 AM »
PS. and God's push.

God is the one that pushes one to cross the Finish Line.

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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2009, 10:55:32 AM »
Sakto jud si Dong Renz: 1) academic preparation, 2) personal qualifications and work ethics, and, above all 3) Divine Providence  

I was lucky I did not have to go through the application process. I was hired by the president of my school as his research assistant even before I graduated.  In later years, when I applied in foreign-funded projects, practical knowledge worked for me. I was recommended in most of my more recent work engagements mainly because of my work ethics.

Shortly after I graduated from college, many companies required their job applicants to have graduated from either my alma mater or UP in Los Baños only. Disqualified na ang uban. Karon wala na ko makadungog nga ingon niini. This shows nga naa puy influence ang ngalan sa eskwelahan. 

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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2009, 11:09:02 AM »
I also note, Mr. Koddi, that first impression is critical.

Ive always made it priority to present myself to the best of my ability when applying for an internship, or when going into the hospital, or beginning a class with a new professor etc.

When you present yourself, walk in a confident manner. Keep your head up, chin up, shake your interviewer, professor, colleague with a firm handshake. Look into his/her eyes firmly. And smile politely.

Speak with a clear and resounding voice. Never too loud, and not too soft.

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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2009, 11:27:08 AM »
I had a roommate in college who graduated cum laude sa Statistics. Taga Albur. Kina pobrehan jud. Nalipay ko nga naka graduate na sija kay makatabang na man sa iyang pamilya. He reported for an interview to a research center director nga, at that time of the interview, busy og basa then tan-aw sa computer, etc. So he just told the applicant, "Now tell me about yourself", without looking at him in the eye.

Ug tungod sa iyang ka eager nga makatrabaho, nagpaka-paka og tubag ang applicant (read pinaspas): "I am Aldiano Nograles, Sir. Eldest in a family of eight. My father is a farmer and my mother is a plain housewife. We are very poor, Sir. In fact, most of my brothers and sisters are out of school. If not for my college ful scholarship I would not have finished a degree in Statistics. It is my fervent wish that I be taken in by your prestigious research center because I really have to work hard now to support my parents and the other members of my family because I am their only hope."

Sa kahikurat ug pagka amuse sa center director, he told the applicant, especially nga wala niya maklaro ang iyang ngalan, "Taym pa, taym pa. Kapaspas gud nimo. Hinay-hinay lang gud. Ayawg kulba-kulba diha. Sige . . . you are . . . ?"    

"The only hope, Sir!", maoy tubag sa applicant.

And the rest is history. Na-employ gyud siya.

Sad to know lang nga na-convert siya sa religion sa iyang boss og nag full-time pagka pastor, ug wala gyud siya makatabang sa iyang mga ginikanan ug mga igsoon.  

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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2009, 11:56:08 AM »
That's a very interesting point, Mr. Koddi. I was touched by his genuine plea and his response, "The only hope, Sir!".

A good friend of mine, who is now a 2nd year Law Student at Duquesne University School of Law, always had a habit of greeting someone with a irregular handshake that caught their attention. He would shake your hand and then firmly pull you to his center and look at you in the eye. And smile.

When I was first met him during my freshman year in college, he did thesame to me. It was my first impression.

Francis graduated M.C.L from Allegheny College with a bachelor in History.
He and I were classmates in many classes; we would debate in class and out of class many a times, even taking our conversation with us to lunch lol.

He is now starting his 2nd year in Law, and am confident he will be a great Trial Lawyer.
He has a very commanding personality.

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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2009, 12:59:56 PM »
Sad to know lang nga na-convert siya sa religion sa iyang boss og nag full-time pagka pastor, ug wala gyud siya makatabang sa iyang mga ginikanan ug mga igsoon. 

Usahay ang epilogue maoy makahinuklog.

Nakit-an sa ijang boss ang ijang potential. Granting that he found his true vocation in being a pastor, I can't help feeling a little angry with the boss who seems to me to be some remorseless headhunter. I don't want to sound irreligious (though I'm not too pious either), but I can't help thinking of the destitute family left behind to wallow in abject poverty while their only hope hies off to the subsidized comfort of ministering to higher (spiritual) needs.

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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2009, 01:05:39 PM »
For landing good jobs and succeeding therein, and living a comfortable enough life, perhaps your school matters. But for man-size accomplishments, it certainly doesn't.

 


Tinuod jud Bagz!

Sa pagka tinuod i am a very low keyed person, i have no desire to compete. Ug ni banana pa to I am a person who is conted to be down there. Bisan asa ko mo eskwela basta maka eskwela because i always wanted to go to school not to work but to learn.

Daghan ko giiskwelahan, na unsa man noon ni nga na landing man ko ug tig lampaso ug tig limpyo sa kaselyas! hhaahhha!

Going to these kind of schools take a looooooot of hard work too.

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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2009, 01:55:37 PM »
i always wanted to go to school not to work but to learn.

I feel the same way too. I never studied for what I'm doing now, although I did a lot of studying in my time. Work is what you have to do to be able to afford the life you've always wanted to live. In this context, having to earn money is a burden and a waste of time. It's a pity that a good many people who don't have to waste time earning money don't exactly know what to do with their lives.

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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2009, 01:59:21 PM »
It's a pity that a good many people who don't have to waste time earning money don't exactly know what to do with their lives. 


Lawoma oi! lawom pa sa suba sa Loboc! hahaha!

Bitaw tinuod jud na Bagz.

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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2009, 02:03:17 PM »
I feel the same way too. I never studied for what I'm doing now, although I did a lot of studying in my time. Work is what you have to do to be able to afford the life you've always wanted to live. In this context, having to earn money is a burden and a waste of time. It's a pity that a good many people who don't have to waste time earning money don't exactly know what to do with their lives.

It's a pity that a good many people who don't have to waste time earning money don't exactly know what to do with their lives.

Bitaw,dapat kahibalo ta ug unsay purpose ug vision nato sa atong life.

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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2009, 02:05:10 PM »
But kaning questiona nga ang name of school maka made ba ug difference.Dili,kay I learned that the giver of our life is the only one who can make a difference in our career.Proven ni siya.

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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2009, 02:11:41 PM »
It's a pity that a good many people who don't have to waste time earning money don't exactly know what to do with their lives. 
Lawoma oi! lawom pa sa suba sa Loboc! hahaha!

Bitaw tinuod jud na Bagz.

He he, Loboc man jud, nga kuno maoy cleanest river in the world.

Bitaw, seriously, naay mga daghag kwarta pero gausik-usik lang sa ilang kinabuhi. Unja naay uban nga daghang gustong buhaton sa ilang kinabuhi pero gamay rag mahimo kay ang ilang time and energy nahurot sa trabahong pamugas.

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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2009, 10:41:26 PM »
Naa baya panultihon nga "Don't let school interfere with your education" or something to this effect.


Tinuod jud Bagz!

Bisan asa ko mo eskwela basta maka eskwela because i always wanted to go to school not to work but to learn.



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Re: Do you think the name of your school made a difference in your career?
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2009, 10:53:13 PM »
Naa baya panultihon nga "Don't let school interfere with your education" or something to this effect.


Mark Twain: I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.

Yes. Going to school is one thing; getting educated is another. I'm not exactly promoting autodidacticism, but despite have gone to excellent universities I have to say that the best things I've learned in life I learned without outside instruction.

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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2009, 10:53:38 PM »
as for me my degree is useless, i never land on a job in line with what i have finished in school, my skills got me a job. i pursued something which i love most, art. had i enrolled in art/design school it would have made the difference

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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2009, 11:05:12 PM »
I could say the same thing of myself.

Oddly, I went as from as grad school to study a field that is not directly related to what I am doing for a living.

I ended up making a living of words and languages which requires no formal degree, although I must admit my exposure to other academic fields has widened the background scope of subjects I can translate.

Mark Twain: I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.

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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2009, 11:09:42 PM »
Mas maayo man hinuon ni Mari. Most people end up with jobs that they do only to earn money. If you earn from you enjoy doing, you can't ask for anything more. A degree or a school's name can only get you a foothold into a career, but in the long run it's your ability, passion and work ethic that will carry you through.

 
as for me my degree is useless, i never land on a job in line with what i have finished in school, my skills got me a job. i pursued something which i love most, art. had i enrolled in art/design school it would have made the difference

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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2009, 11:09:46 PM »
as for me my degree is useless, i never land on a job in line with what i have finished in school, my skills got me a job. i pursued something which i love most, art. had i enrolled in art/design school it would have made the difference

Well, one good thing about art is that it can hardly be taught.

I always say, tongue in cheek, that artists should have degrees in accounting or law or something, to help them in the real world.  The classical apprenticeship method is best for learning to do art from others, if at all. A degree in the arts, a BA or MFA, (or a PhD, for that matter) are for teachers of art, not artists.

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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2009, 11:21:59 PM »
Mas maayo man hinuon ni Mari. Most people end up with jobs that they do only to earn money. If you earn from you enjoy doing, you can't ask for anything more. A degree or a school's name can only get you a foothold into a career, but in the long run it's your ability, passion and work ethic that will carry you through.

  

my specialization is highly competitive, a very good school credentials would help a bit. mao jud because at first they will ask you for your documents which i always dont have, i just ask to go hands on

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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2009, 11:27:23 PM »
Well, one good thing about art is that it can hardly be taught.

I always say, tongue in cheek, that artists should have degrees in accounting or law or something, to help them in the real world.  The classical apprenticeship method is best for learning to do art from others, if at all. A degree in the arts, a BA or MFA, (or a PhD, for that matter) are for teachers of art, not artists.

based on my experience, when you apply for design job, they will always ask you were you finished at and then your portfolio follows. in my case, i ask to go to the computer first and give me a test run. i forgot, they also check on how you look... very intimidating ::)

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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2009, 11:32:59 PM »
i forgot, they also check on how you look ::)
THAT always helps. It doesn't seem fair, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. ;D

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« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2009, 11:39:47 PM »
THAT always helps. It doesn't seem fair, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. ;D

expected man gud na when you go into arts and fashion, most often how you package yourself is a living proof of how creative you are, mura og product in the supermarket wherein most of us always look first on the packaging. when its appealing to the eye, it must be good. para nako its sometimes unfair kay you have to try them first before you know the real deal

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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2009, 11:43:28 PM »
korek! ayaw salig sa packaging!!! nindot ra na tan awon sa gawas pero haskang asloma diay ang gi pack!  hahahha!

Insakto jud ka Mari. Pero diri sa Merika wa man kaayo na kay mahulog man na nga discrimination! pait ang silot sa mo discriminate diri.

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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2009, 11:50:55 PM »
korek! ayaw salig sa packaging!!! nindot ra na tan awon sa gawas pero haskang asloma diay ang gi pack!  hahahha!

Insakto jud ka Mari. Pero diri sa Merika wa man kaayo na kay mahulog man na nga discrimination! pait ang silot sa mo discriminate diri.


pero tinuod jud Bella nga design/fashion/art related jobs kelangan 'vongga' ka sa imo dressing up interview palang, kelangan may character daan.

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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2009, 12:01:58 AM »
Mari, I don't think this is an area where they'd find you deficient. It's the reality of human interaction. Busa bitaw sa presentation ron, importante ang visuals (power point projection, aside from the bodily projections of the speaker) kay ang initial impression ug retention daw sa tawo, 70 percent from what they see and only 30 percent from what they hear you say.


pero tinuod jud Bella nga design/fashion/art related jobs kelangan 'vongga' ka sa imo dressing up interview palang, kelangan may character daan.

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« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2009, 01:10:20 AM »
Mari, interesting point. I have friends who graduated as art majors and or music majors that had to work harder in terms of internships, in landing on jobs as museum curators, art gallery curators, or even getting accepted into prestigious art schools in Italy (Florence, for example).

Coming from a background in hard science and history, I do have an appreciation for art, and humanities as these majors teach students to think beyond the border, to think in abstract and artistic lines.

Going to lab, teach students, and distill chemical liquids, is something. But coming back to one's college dorm to sit down and enjoy Bach for a minute or two and converse with art majors and/or poli science majors was quite titillating. A 'break' from the absolutes of Biology.

My younger sister, in my opinion, maintained a duality and healthy atmosphere. She graduated with a degree in Biology (Honors) with specialty in Molecular Cellular Genetics, but was also a double major in Art.

I would love visiting her art gallery, seeing her sketch in coal, or oil paint. The mixing of biology/science and abstract art.

Great mix. imho.

College is the best place to explore one's interests, strengths, and gifts.

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