Author Topic: Problem with the priest in our town. (Read 23995 times)

sumbohan · « **on:** April 27, 2011, 04:53:45 PM »

sukad pag abot sa Pari sa amoang lungsod daghan kaayo reklamo ang mga tao. pero ang problema pod kay sige lang reklamo sa tago walay naay kaisog na mostorya sa Pari na sayop ang iyang gipangbuhat sa amoang lungsod sa batuan.
kani ang mga pipila nabantayan namo na sayop niya nga nabuhat.

1. Diha to namatay sa amoang lungsod na wala niya misahe kay wala syay pirma sa iyang GSK passbook ug wala pod sya bayad2 sa monthly contribution and 10 pesos. karon kinahanglan mo bayad ang hingtungdan sa mga bulan na wala sya bayad2 ug sa penalty na wala sya attend ug GSK

2. Ang among lungsod naa me shrine. ang nagtukod ani kay si Fr. Maniwan. karon dili daw sya mo misa adto kay private daw to. ?#@#@#@.

3. Pag domingo sa pagkabanhaw naa sya gipasiugda sa amoang lungsod na program. cultural siguro to and religious. karon gipugos niya ug paattend ang mga tawo. kay kinahanglan man magdala sa "GSK" passbook para naa attendance. kay kung wala naa napod multa na 300 pesos.

4. ang special mass karon sa amoang lungsod nagkantidad na ug 3000 pesos. ang nahitabo karon. wala na nagpamisa ang mga schools sa amoang lungsod na naa graduation tungod sa kamahal.

ing ani na ba jud ang simbahan karon kwarta nalang ang pirmi hisgutan.

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bugsay · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2011, 04:56:26 PM »

poilitico seguro na siya, nga na pari na karon?....

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sumbohan · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:00:38 PM »

mao jud bai. public servant daw.

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bugsay · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:08:12 PM »

sa point #1, naka exprience pod ko ana...last month lang, gibayran nako ang balig 2 ka tuig nga wa nabayran sa akong Mama....kay ug di ko mobayad ato, mobayad ko'g mura'g P1000 para sa mass....
mao na man na'y patakaran sa Simbahan....tanan seguro na.
gikasabutan man tingale na sa kadaghanan...so ok lang....

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sumbohan · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:18:12 PM »

para nako bai bugsay dili na ok. kay pugsanay na diay karon. isa pa usa na sa ilang trabaho mo misa sa usa ka patay. ma pobre man ni sya o madato.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:19:48 PM »

poilitico seguro na siya, nga na pari na karon?....

Hmm, lahi ra bag tirada ang pari nga politiko na ron?

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:20:53 PM »

Pugsanay ang bayad? Wa diay kalainan sa INK...

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sumbohan · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:21:11 PM »

wa ko kabalo na politico ni sya sa una. pero ang paagi niya pinapolitiko.

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chriswise · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:26:48 PM »

sukad pag abot sa Pari sa amoang lungsod daghan kaayo reklamo ang mga tao. pero ang problema pod kay sige lang reklamo sa tago walay naay kaisog na mostorya sa Pari na sayop ang iyang gipangbuhat sa amoang lungsod sa batuan.
kani ang mga pipila nabantayan namo na sayop niya nga nabuhat.

1. Diha to namatay sa amoang lungsod na wala niya misahe kay wala syay pirma sa iyang GSK passbook ug wala pod sya bayad2 sa monthly contribution and 10 pesos. karon kinahanglan mo bayad ang hingtungdan sa mga bulan na wala sya bayad2 ug sa penalty na wala sya attend ug GSK

2. Ang among lungsod naa me shrine. ang nagtukod ani kay si Fr. Maniwan. karon dili daw sya mo misa adto kay private daw to. ?#@#@#@.

3. Pag domingo sa pagkabanhaw naa sya gipasiugda sa amoang lungsod na program. cultural siguro to and religious. karon gipugos niya ug paattend ang mga tawo. kay kinahanglan man magdala sa "GSK" passbook para naa attendance. kay kung wala naa napod multa na 300 pesos.

4. ang special mass karon sa amoang lungsod nagkantidad na ug 3000 pesos. ang nahitabo karon. wala na nagpamisa ang mga schools sa amoang lungsod na naa graduation tungod sa kamahal.

ing ani na ba jud ang simbahan karon kwarta nalang ang pirmi hisgutan.

deli mana ingon ana,masmaayo nga ipa abot na sa bishop,,sayop jod,,deli ang simbahan nang warta ana kon di ang pari ra...kay kong moingon kag simbahan tanan diay?ngano deri sa amoa,,barato raman pamisa special,,,kanang deli prmihan cluster tinood jod na,,,naa naman sa balaod a simbahan,nganong deli man pod motoman,,wala man pod mamugos ang simbahan nga apil,nagpahayag ra sa unsay katuyoan,,,,,kanang di ilobong murag di na maayo,,naa nay warning,,tingalig gahian pod na mga tawhana,,,,,,ipa abot na sa bishop,,og ari tagbilaran puedi ka mo adto sa cathedral Munsinyor MALANOG,,,,HINAOT nga nakatabang ko,,,salamat

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sumbohan · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:43:48 PM »

why do the church have to impose fines ug dili ka attend ug cluster meetings. dili ba na pag balik sa mga padre damaso diri sa atong katilingban?

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sumbohan · « **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:45:06 PM »

salamat bai chriswise pero dili man ko kaanha sa tagbilaran kay wala man ko sa bohol nakabase.

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chriswise · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:53:04 PM »

why do the church have to impose fines ug dili ka attend ug cluster meetings. dili ba na pag balik sa mga padre damaso diri sa atong katilingban?

walay silot kon di kaa attend oi,,,kana rang di kahatag parish support,mao na deli permahan,,,,pero naay warning ana oi,,,,,,

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chriswise · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:55:25 PM »

wala balaod sa simbahan nga wala kahibalo an meyebro,,,naka sure ko ana deri sa amoa,,,daghan bitaw balhin og lain relihiyon,,pero mao gihapon,,mas nisamot pa kay naa kota 50pesos,,di ka simba,,,,

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sumbohan · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:55:35 PM »

naa silot sa amoa man daw.

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chriswise · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2011, 09:01:31 PM »

naa silot sa amoa man daw.

sayop jod,,,,maayo ipahibawo sa,,bishop,,,sure ko wala,,,or hinimo rapod na sa mga meyimbro,,nya kana tawhana absent maong wala ka reklamo,,majority siguro oyon,,,

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cujo · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2011, 09:07:46 PM »

I am just curious if the priest is aware of all these accusations.Di ba sa simbahan there are people who handle things for the priest.Like if you want a special mass,gave donations etc.,you don't nomally go to him directly...

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chriswise · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2011, 09:09:59 PM »

I am just curious if the priest is aware of all these accusations.Di ba sa simbahan there are people who handle things for the priest.Like if you want a special mass,gave donations etc.,you don't nomally go to him directly...

bitaw korek jod ka,,,naay secretary

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sumbohan · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2011, 09:50:10 PM »

yep dapat donations ra. pero karon naa na price na 3k. wa ko kabaw if mao jud na price kada special mass. pero sa mga schools gusto magpamisa last march para graduation mao daw na pangayo. mao wala nalang daw pamisa ang mga schools.

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chriswise · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2011, 09:59:49 PM »

yep dapat donations ra. pero karon naa na price na 3k. wa ko kabaw if mao jud na price kada special mass. pero sa mga schools gusto magpamisa last march para graduation mao daw na pangayo. mao wala nalang daw pamisa ang mga schools.

DELI na mao jod,,,manghod sa akong asawa graduate man pod to,,ako gani meeting PTA,,,gamay raman bayas misa oi,,,isumbong na sa dako,,kay usahay naa pod ingon ana nga nahitabo,,,

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2011, 10:41:24 PM »

Morally perting sayupa ni. Bayran bay sacramento nga ug wala jud kay ikabayad . Ug ingon ani ilang pamaagi mamalhin na ug relihiyon ning uban. Mao jud ni usa nga dapat bag ohon sa simbahan diha. Wa bitaw ko moangay aning passbook passbook nila nga daghan ma deny ug hatag ug sacrament. Hinoon ang mas dakong tulubangon ani sa Ginoo ang pari man.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2011, 10:45:12 PM »

Sumbohan,

The complaint that you are sharing with us, tho is apparent in the municipality that you are referencing to, is not true for all parishes as as not all parishes impose this. In fact, this is the first time I ever heard of such an incident. If there are transgressions that you and people in your town feel have been made by the new parish priest, perhaps it would be pertient for you and concerned church goers to go to the rectory and present this situation to the priest directly. Sometimes, it is better to ask the priest a reason for these practices and so there is transparency and resolution to the qualms that you and other respected , concerned citizens have.

If you feel that his answer is not sufficient, then perhaps it would be advisable to mention this to the Diocese of Tagbilaran City.

I do hope that this situation is resolved soon for you and other concerned church faithful.

God Bless.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #21 on:** April 27, 2011, 10:51:11 PM »

DELI na mao jod,,,manghod sa akong asawa graduate man pod to,,ako gani meeting PTA,,,gamay raman bayas misa oi,,,isumbong na sa dako,,kay usahay naa pod ingon ana nga nahitabo,,,

Chris,

I know that it is good to donate some money to the church during prayers for the dead and for the blessings of people during birthdays, but gamay ra man pood ang donation. Bitaw, i never heard of anything in the likes of 3k or more for blessings. I think this issue has to be screened and researched before we all make any accusations and members of the Church.

Any ways, to the Original Poster, if you have a question and concern regarding how a particular priest in your town is officiating parish business, then it would be better to address this issue to him directly.

Sometimes, it is better to address a problem one on one. Please also know that how one priest behaves does not represent the millions of priests working in Christ's Vineyard.

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chriswise · « **Reply #22 on:** April 27, 2011, 11:10:27 PM »

Chris,

I know that it is good to donate some money to the church during prayers for the dead and for the blessings of people during birthdays, but gamay ra man pood ang donation. Bitaw, i never heard of anything in the likes of 3k or more for blessings. I think this issue has to be screened and researched before we all make any accusations and members of the Church.

Any ways, to the Original Poster, if you have a question and concern regarding how a particular priest in your town is officiating parish business, then it would be better to address this issue to him directly.

Sometimes, it is better to address a problem one on one. Please also know that how one priest behaves does not represent the millions of priests working in Christ's Vineyard.

bitaw sir wala may dautan kon mo donate ba,dependi raman na sa atong gugma og kinasing kasing nga pag donate..mao bitaw akong giingon sa unahan na masmaayo nga mo sumbong or mangutana sila sa Cathedral,,kay sa gika ingon kona deli jod na dako pamisa,,,unsaon man pod kong walay bayad na unsa man diay mga mintinans sa simbahan,,,,katoliko raba diay ingon ana,,tanan man siguro,,,,

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #23 on:** April 27, 2011, 11:17:55 PM »

You are right, Chris. If we have a question on something, we should ask the Diocesan head for answers to this question and if there is a problem, they can make the appropriate action to resolve the situation.

In all my life of going to church, no priest has ever said to me, "oy, doy, gamay ra man imong gi hatag sa simbahan. i-duganga ba..."

dili.

naka kita galing ko sa una sa valencia, ang usang baji sa taga bukid sa anas, ning hatag ra sija sa pari ug 5 pesos. Ang pari ning pasalamat, "salamat manang. Ang Ginoo naa nimo!"

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islander · « **Reply #24 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:04:19 AM »

the best recourse here is to separate first fact from fiction, foremost of which is whether it is really the priest who asks for such amounts or the church staff (or volunteer staff or whatever, with apologies for turning the spotlight on them here).

i thought of this because some years back, i learned about a retired bishop whose trusted aide undertook payment demands in the retired bishop's name. those payments were for the retired bishop's inherited properties from his parents. those payments never reached the retired bishop.

once these rumors are proven as truths, no one can stop any parishioner from going to the bishop of the diocese. a letter to the bishop (Most Rev. Leonardo Y. Medroso, D.D.) may spur an investigation. an email from you will do, sombuhan.

mere stories passed around may prove unfair to the priest and to the catholic church. many people and institutions have suffered because of hate campaigns. would that this isn't one of those.

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islander · « **Reply #25 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:12:59 AM »

something perhaps worth our while about church and donations:

Tithing Was An Old Testament Law

Iâ€™m a Catholic. (I love our Churchâ€”warts, sins, and blemishes. It makes me more convinced of Godâ€™s mercy.)

In all the years as a Catholic, Iâ€™ve yet to hear a clear teaching on Tithing. Hereâ€™s why: Because Catholic Theology says weâ€™re not bound by the Old Testament Law of Tithing, but by the New Testament Law of Generosity.

I agree. But weâ€™ve failed in generosity too!

Catholics are known as having the noisiest offerings in the world. â€œKlang, kleng, kling, klong, klungâ€¦â€ Because everyone gives coins.

One man said, â€œCatholics arenâ€™t Tithers, theyâ€™re Tippers.â€

Many Catholics donâ€™t even know what Tithing is.

Thus, weâ€™re missing out on the many blessings of Tithing.

more at: http://bosanchez.ph/don%E2%80%99t-cheat-yourself-from-the-rewards-of-tithing/

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chicogon · « **Reply #26 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:15:13 AM »

sukad pag abot sa Pari sa amoang lungsod daghan kaayo reklamo ang mga tao. pero ang problema pod kay sige lang reklamo sa tago walay naay kaisog na mostorya sa Pari na sayop ang iyang gipangbuhat sa amoang lungsod sa batuan.
kani ang mga pipila nabantayan namo na sayop niya nga nabuhat.

1. Diha to namatay sa amoang lungsod na wala niya misahe kay wala syay pirma sa iyang GSK passbook ug wala pod sya bayad2 sa monthly contribution and 10 pesos. karon kinahanglan mo bayad ang hingtungdan sa mga bulan na wala sya bayad2 ug sa penalty na wala sya attend ug GSK

2. Ang among lungsod naa me shrine. ang nagtukod ani kay si Fr. Maniwan. karon dili daw sya mo misa adto kay private daw to. ?#@#@#@.

3. Pag domingo sa pagkabanhaw naa sya gipasiugda sa amoang lungsod na program. cultural siguro to and religious. karon gipugos niya ug paattend ang mga tawo. kay kinahanglan man magdala sa "GSK" passbook para naa attendance. kay kung wala naa napod multa na 300 pesos.

4. ang special mass karon sa amoang lungsod nagkantidad na ug 3000 pesos. ang nahitabo karon. wala na nagpamisa ang mga schools sa amoang lungsod na naa graduation tungod sa kamahal.

ing ani na ba jud ang simbahan karon kwarta nalang ang pirmi hisgutan.

Angay ni isumbong o ipaabot sa kadagkuan sa Simbahan (Diocese) or di ba magkahiusa ang mga tawo and decide what is good for themselves... unya ila dayong estoryahon ang ilang kura paroko. Kung mag iya-iya ang mga tawo, there is no strength in that. Dakog purohan o chance, as in any place, nga di sila paminawon o tagdon. May gikasabotan man o wala (ang mga miembro sa GSK), "compassion," "mercy," "justice," & "love" remains the rule of any group who claims to be Christ's followers. Like the old Biblical saying goes, "they will know we are Christians by our love."

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chicogon · « **Reply #27 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:24:17 AM »

Oops daghan naman diay replies ani. Nilukso man lang ko directly from my email notice and wrote my reply. I seem to agree with Isles, Chriswise and Lorenz on this... before ta mohusga klaroha sa una unsa ang tinuod. It could be the agreement of the whole Batuan GSK ug dili kabubot-on sa pari nga bag-o lang ge assign sa maong lungsod... or, if tinuod, nga gahi jud ug baroganan ug balatian ang maong kura paroko, it wouldn't hurt to try to talk to him and make sense of everything. Kay kung tinuod jud nga gahi ug balatian og kasing-kasing ang maong pari, you have my blessing... lat-i ninjo aron dali ra maluto inig adobo nako nija. I will do the honor (LoL)

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islander · « **Reply #28 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:31:16 AM »

naa ra bay mga pari nga di motagad sa nitty gritty sa temporal aspect of the church kay naa siyay trusted aides to do that.

i cannot help but be reminded here of how very real this is because of a personal experience of mine. it didn't involve money but groceries.

i once brought groceries to a certain missionary priest in a far-flung area in bohol. it was because i was to stay in his mission for a weekend training-seminar. even if i came as a trainor, i didn't want to burden the priest with my maintenance. thus, i brought my own provisions and then some. the priest told me to give everything to the volunteer cook.

all throughout my stay, never were the groceries (eggs, corned beef, ham, sausages, etc.) that i brought served during meals. all that we had were poorly cooked squid and dried fish. even the kind of rice i brought was changed into something smelly and coarse. i learned later that the cook brought my groceries to her family.

the priest either didn't notice or if he did, he must have deemed it unimportant.

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chicogon · « **Reply #29 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:31:41 AM »

Chris,

I know that it is good to donate some money to the church during prayers for the dead and for the blessings of people during birthdays, but gamay ra man pood ang donation. Bitaw, i never heard of anything in the likes of 3k or more for blessings.

I heard something to this effect. Sa Cebu daw it would cost P5,000 to get a priest to say Mass for a graduation or the like. Is it possible duna say set of amount nga ilang gikasabotan sa Bohol, specifically sa Diocese of Tagbilaran? Just wondering... Kay in 1985 when I was still in Cabanatuan, P1,000 was the minimum. And now, 25 years later... Again, am just wondering...

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islander · « **Reply #30 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:42:20 AM »

It could be the agreement of the whole Batuan GSK ug dili kabubot-on sa pari nga bag-o lang ge assign sa maong lungsod...

yes! kadaghanang gubot sa parokya, in our milieu, anha magsugod sa lay people. mabibingka intawon ang pari nga maningkamot nga way labanan, ang pagtoo hinoon sa tanan tua nidapig sa pikas.

mao nga pwerteng alegreha tong pari sa una sa sto. nino sa cebu. bata pa lagi unya usa pa gyod sa mga bright boys... nadungog nga sa iyang kalagot kay grabe na kaayo ang away-away ug intriga, siyagit na lang kuno siya ug "all you need is a big f_ck!" gihipos gyod hinoon sa iyang superiors, wa na ipakita sa madlang people unya gihingok ug transfer sa manila. para nako, mirisi tong mga bayhana. magpaduol sa simbahan as devotees unya payts ra diay.

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chicogon · « **Reply #31 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:50:31 AM »

yes! kadaghanang gubot sa parokya, in our milieu, anha magsugod sa lay people. mabibingka intawon ang pari nga maningkamot nga way labanan, ang pagtoo hinoon sa tanan tua nidapig sa pikas.

mao nga pwerteng alegreha tong pari sa una sa sto. nino sa cebu. bata pa lagi unya usa pa gyod sa mga bright boys... nadungog nga sa iyang kalagot kay grabe na kaayo ang away-away ug intriga, siyagit na lang kuno siya ug "all you need is a big f_ck!" gihipos gyod hinoon sa iyang superiors, wa na ipakita sa madlang people unya gihingok ug transfer sa manila. para nako, mirisi tong mga bayhana. magpaduol sa simbahan as devotees unya payts ra diay.

Bwahahaha!!! Kaisog diay sa Boyz 2 Men!!! Dato na to ron kay tua man kaha sa Manila... maybe he learned the ways of the world or continue to make hinmself incorruptible ajejejeje

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islander · « **Reply #32 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:52:51 AM »

I heard something to this effect. Sa Cebu daw it would cost P5,000 to get a priest to say Mass for a graduation or the like. Is it possible duna say set of amount nga ilang gikasabotan sa Bohol, specifically sa Diocese of Tagbilaran? Just wondering... Kay in 1985 when I was still in Cabanatuan, P1,000 was the minimum. And now, 25 years later... Again, am just wondering...

maglisod kog tuo ani, fr chic. i believe any self-respecting catholic would be pissed off if an amount is specified for a mass for certain important occasions. and any self-respecting priest would not dare risk losing believers because of such unusually specified amounts. what will a priest do if, after celebrating the mass at a graduation ceremony, he ends up getting nothing because it was inadvertently forgotten? will he take back the mass? surely, the 'compensation' (for lack of a better term) is not 'paid' up front.

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chicogon · « **Reply #33 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:56:54 AM »

i once brought groceries to a certain missionary priest in a far-flung area in bohol. it was because i was to stay in his mission for a weekend training-seminar. even if i came as a trainor, i didn't want to burden the priest with my maintenance. thus, i brought my own provisions and then some. the priest told me to give everything to the volunteer cook.

yes! kadaghanang gubot sa parokya, in our milieu, anha magsugod sa lay people. mabibingka intawon ang pari nga maningkamot nga way labanan, ang pagtoo hinoon sa tanan tua nidapig sa pikas.

Morag kini si Ms Isle representative ni gikan sa taas kay suheto kaayo sa dagan sa maong kalihokan, unya trainor-from-isle-to-isle pa jud ni siya even to far-flung places in Bohol. Basin kita ra sa TB makasulbad aning imong problema Sumbohan.

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chicogon · « **Reply #34 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:03:44 AM »

maglisod kog tuo ani, fr chic. i believe any self-respecting catholic would be pissed off if an amount is specified for a mass for certain important occasions. and any self-respecting priest would not dare risk losing believers because of such unusually specified amounts. what will a priest do if, after celebrating the mass at a graduation ceremony, he ends up getting nothing because it was inadvertently forgotten? will he take back the mass? surely, the 'compensation' (for lack of a better term) is not 'paid' up front.

I don't really know what the whole truth is but this particular incident I knew about really took place; a parent told me (istorya2x lang god namo about 3 weeks ago). They were asked by the school (Regents in Mactan) to contribute for their children's Baccalaureate Mass kay P5 thou daw bayad to get a priest to say the Mass. How true I really don't know... but that's what they were told.

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chicogon · « **Reply #35 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:07:33 AM »

Lupig paman sa America where priests are contented with people donating. Usahay wala paman gani kay part daw na sa work sa mga pari, i.e., to do the sacraments. Kung mo donate man galing, average na siguro nang $100 or less, which if converted is roughy around P4,200.

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statesville · « **Reply #36 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:08:12 AM »

big money, big mass
little money, little mass
no money, no mass....

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chicogon · « **Reply #37 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:09:25 AM »

big money, big mass
little money, little mass
no money, no mass....

Outright not true!!!

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islander · « **Reply #38 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:13:40 AM »

Morag kini si Ms Isle representative ni gikan sa taas kay suheto kaayo sa dagan sa maong kalihokan, unya trainor-form-isle-to-isle pa jud ni siya even to far-flung places in Bohol. Basin kita ra sa TB makasulbad aning imong problema Sumbohan.

ngiaow! malingaw man sad ang iring ani fr chic uy.

di ko suheto sa tinuod lang. kusog lang ko mangobserbar kay kini laging di ta joiner pero himantayon kaayo, hehehe. call it unusual interest with human nature and the workings of the human mind and heart...

bitaw, kausa ra to nga training unya kay poor kaayo ang mission di maka-afford nga mokuha ug mga mahalon nga trainors. ako ang gikuha kay free man ko, niplete sa kaugalingon, nagdala pa gyod ug kaugalingong pagkaon. siyarog mangita pa gyod ang pari ug lain, hahaha!

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islander · « **Reply #39 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:19:11 AM »

I don't really know what the whole truth is but this particular incident I knew about really took place; a parent told me (istorya2x lang god namo about 3 weeks ago). They were asked by the school (Regents in Mactan) to contribute for their children's Baccalaureate Mass kay P5 thou daw bayad to get a priest to say the Mass. How true I really don't know... but that's what they were told.

this sounds like the school's decision on the amount and not the priest's. the amount could be true, but not because the priest specified it. it may have been presented that way to the parents to avoid protests from them.

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chicogon · « **Reply #40 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:19:37 AM »

ngiaow! malingaw man sad ang iring ani fr chic uy.

di ko suheto sa tinuod lang. kusog lang ko mangobserbar kay kini laging di ta joiner pero himantayon kaayo, hehehe. call it unusual interest with human nature and the workings of the human mind and heart...

bitaw, kausa ra to nga training unya kay poor kaayo ang mission di maka-afford nga mokuha ug mga mahalon nga trainors. ako ang gikuha kay free man ko, niplete sa kaugalingon, nagdala pa gyod ug kaugalingong pagkaon. siyarog mangita pa gyod ang pari ug lain, hahaha!

Magpalista na mi daan sa imong availability sa sunod pohon, muangay sad mig free, bwahahaha. Pwamis di jud mi mangitag lain trainor. Kung magda kag kape, apile pog pan, bwahahahaha.

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islander · « **Reply #41 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:21:29 AM »

when i went home last december and had our house blessing, the priest refused the envelope i tried to give him. the blessing is my contribution to your house blessing, he said.

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chicogon · « **Reply #42 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:24:02 AM »

I don't really know what the whole truth is but this particular incident I knew about really took place; a parent told me (istorya2x lang god namo about 3 weeks ago). They were asked by the school (Regents in Mactan) to contribute for their children's Baccalaureate Mass kay P5 thou daw bayad to get a priest to say the Mass. How true I really don't know... but that's what they were told.

this sounds like the school's decision on the amount and not the priest's. the amount could be true, but not because the priest specified it. it may have been presented that way to the parents to avoid protests from them.

Miaw ("Amen" in the world of cats)

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islander · « **Reply #43 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:25:05 AM »

Magpalista na mi daan sa imong availability sa sunod pohon, muangay sad mig free, bwahahaha. Pwamis di jud mi mangitag lain trainor. Kung magda kag kape, apile pog pan, bwahahahaha.

ha

, ha

! maoy gidangat...

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statesville · « **Reply #44 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:27:07 AM »

Chicogon, I'm referring to the priest spoken about in this thread for
I'm sure there are many decent priests out there except this one.

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islander · « **Reply #45 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:29:59 AM »

big money, big mass
little money, little mass
no money, no mass....

no. sorry, but it's no, no, no, not at all. tithe is never negotiated. any priest knows he would be condemned by his flock if he does so.

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chicogon · « **Reply #46 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:31:18 AM »

when i went home last december and had our house blessing, the priest refused the envelope i tried to give him. the blessing is my contribution to your house blessing, he said.

Yup! I do that all the time labi na kung naa ko sa Bohol. When they gave me stipends I usually donate it back to a chapel (Cabawan, San Isidro, Cogon, Ubayon (Loon), Catigbian, etc) or to a family who ask me to do a funeral, memorial mass or house blessing. In addition, mo tampo paman gani kog lain as my personal contribution (I apologize for mentioning it). Because I do believe "there is joy - real joy - in giving" and that it will come back to you a hundredfold when you're generous in giving yourself... maski pobre pa ta (no exception).

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chicogon · « **Reply #47 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:37:05 AM »

Chicogon, I'm referring to the priest spoken about in this thread for
I'm sure there are many decent priests out there except this one.

I understand. But that's what we're talking about... re: about the possibility that this ain't the whole truth yet. That's why we're asking questions or throwing possibilities back and forth (really speculating at most, LoL). Kung tinuod pa ni, it really makes me mad... pero duna man say punto ang uban deri who claims basin dili pod uroy ang pari nag sulti ani but his lay aides. I guess I have to do my own investigating (LoL)

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #48 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:40:29 AM »

This reminds me of the time when I went to visit the Shrine of Senor Santo Nino in Cebu. While i was trying to look for roses and plants to offer the Blessed Holy Child, all the sellers came to me with their large flowers, and roses, the price range for these were anywhere from 50 to 150 to 300 pesos. all of these were grand looking.

However, while i was choosing, a little boy came behind me and tugged on my shirt.

"Sir, palit'a ni, sir. 15 pesos lang."

This little boy showed me this beautiful red rose. I fell in love with it and got it.
I gave him 15 pesos, but went to my pockets to give him a tip, and by the time i was about to give it to him, when i turned around, he was already gone. I could not find this little boy.

When I told this to my cousin and my uncles, the said kono, "It was probably Senor Santo Nino, dong..."

hehehe, it reminds me that "grandeur" doesn't really count sometimes.

what counts is what comes from the heart.

this refers, too, in regards to church offerings.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #49 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:42:53 AM »

Jesus doesn't care who gives the most. Remember, friends, remember when Jesus was at the temple and he saw a poor old woman who gave all that she had. He said that--that was more pleasing to the LORD than the pharisess who gave thousands of what they had.

I will find the verse for you all to read.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #50 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:45:20 AM »

Luke Chapter 20 verses ,

As he looked up, Jesus saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. "I tell you the truth," he said, "this poor widow has put in more than all the others. All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on...."

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #51 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:46:58 AM »

Praise be to God...

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chicogon · « **Reply #52 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:48:20 AM »

"Sir, palita ni, sir. 15 pesos lang."

This little boy showed me this beautiful red rose. I fell in love with it and got it.

I gave him 15 pesos, but went to my pockets to give him a tip, and by the time i was about to give it to him, when i turned around,
he was already gone.

It reminds me that "grandeur" doesn't really count sometimes; what counts is what comes from the heart.

This refers, too, in regards to church offerings.

Much like your question about Perpetual Help, remember? Tinuod na!

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islander · « **Reply #53 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:49:55 AM »

Yup! I do that all the time labi na kung naa ko sa Bohol. When they gave me stipends I usually donate it back to a chapel (Cabawan, San Isidro, Cogon, Ubayon (Loon), Catigbian, etc) or to a family who ask me to do a funeral, memorial mass or house blessing. In addition, mo tampo paman gani kog lain as my personal contribution (I apologize for mentioning it). Because I do believe "there is joy - real joy - in giving" and that it will come back to you a hundredfold when you're generous in giving yourself... maski pobre pa ta (no exception).

one more reason why it is difficult for me to believe hook, line, and sinker what started this thread in the first place. there really is no protection for priests when it comes to intrigues in his own parish, especially one that is crawling with pharisees. priests may have some character flaws, as we all have, but we must err on the side of compassion when it comes to rumors and innuendos.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #54 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:53:25 AM »

Much like your question about Perpetual Help, remember? Tinuod na!

Fr. Roel, remember the santo nino that i asked you to bless when i met up with you with the puppies?

i was holding that when i was buying the rose from that little boy....

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #55 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:56:50 AM »

one more reason why it is difficult for me to believe hook, line, and sinker what started this thread in the first place. there really is no protection for priests when it comes to intrigues in his own parish, especially one that is crawling with pharisees. priests may have some character flaws, as we all have, but we must err on the side of compassion when it comes to rumors and innuendos.

Isles,

I agree with you. Libel is very dangerous and I do hope that the original poster knows that people can be sent to court for libel and for the destruction of character. I know many people in the Philippines and in the United States who were sued for libel. So please, members, becareful what you write here in this public forum. Make sure you are not tarnishing names as it can come back at you. In the court of Law.

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chicogon · « **Reply #56 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:57:40 AM »

In any case (re: this thread), if I'm you, Sumbohan, I will go see the priest and clarify the issue. Kung di ka makakuhag appointment, bring a company. Kung dili pa jud successful, bring a battalion.

But if you're just saying this (out of hearsays) and/or because you have a personal vendetta against this particular priest (because you happen to like the former priest, who incidentally, was being moved to my hometown Catigbian (hahaha), mag hantak na lang ta basin makadaog pa ka

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #57 on:** April 28, 2011, 03:01:27 AM »

Well said, Fr. Roel. This is a good reminder for all of us not to engage in proliferating here-says. I'm happy that the original poster did not name the priest in question because these charges can be deemed libelous.

Fr. Roel is correct. If you have a problem with someone, address it to the person in question. Don't propagate here-says especially if they are not proven!

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chicogon · « **Reply #58 on:** April 28, 2011, 03:05:51 AM »

Sumbohan, in Catigbian the people are also adjusting to their new priest. They're not used to his kind of "goodness" (that you know of). Kusog na kaayo moki-ay ang mga tawo didto karon because the whole town is becoming "dance-craze" bwahahaha

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chicogon · « **Reply #59 on:** April 28, 2011, 03:07:12 AM »

Well said, Fr. Roel. This is a good reminder for all of us not to engage in proliferating here-says. I'm happy that the original poster did not name the priest in question because these charges can be deemed libelous.

Fr. Roel is correct. If you have a problem with someone, address it to the person in question. Don't propagate here-says especially if they are not proven!

Huhuhu!!! But you are naming me... I'm supposedly ChicogoN.

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chicogon · « **Reply #60 on:** April 28, 2011, 03:11:41 AM »

one more reason why it is difficult for me to believe hook, line, and sinker what started this thread in the first place. there really is no protection for priests when it comes to intrigues in his own parish, especially one that is crawling with pharisees. priests may have some character flaws, as we all have, but we must err on the side of compassion when it comes to rumors and innuendos.

I'm almost beginning to believe that both, you and Bran, are fast becoming TB's Catholic Defenders yahoooooooooo!!!

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #61 on:** April 28, 2011, 03:26:45 AM »

Kini nga TOPIC, ako pod ning nabasa sa FB sa mga taga Batuan. Kami pod sa among lungsod sa Loboc, daghan pod ang reklamo sa among pari. Miingon ko, nganong dili mana ninyo petitionan? Ang ilang tubag,LAKAS kuno sa bishop ang maong pari....

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #62 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:02:46 AM »

Huhuhu!!! But you are naming me... I'm supposedly ChicogoN.

okey lang lagi. kai wa bitaw gi name-an imong apilido. bwahahahahaha

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #63 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:12:12 AM »

sukad pag abot sa Pari sa amoang lungsod daghan kaayo reklamo ang mga tao. pero ang problema pod kay sige lang reklamo sa tago walay naay kaisog na mostorya sa Pari na sayop ang iyang gipangbuhat sa amoang lungsod sa batuan.
kani ang mga pipila nabantayan namo na sayop niya nga nabuhat.

1. Diha to namatay sa amoang lungsod na wala niya misahe kay wala syay pirma sa iyang GSK passbook ug wala pod sya bayad2 sa monthly contribution and 10 pesos. karon kinahanglan mo bayad ang hingtungdan sa mga bulan na wala sya bayad2 ug sa penalty na wala sya attend ug GSK

2. Ang among lungsod naa me shrine. ang nagtukod ani kay si Fr. Maniwan. karon dili daw sya mo misa adto kay private daw to. ?#@#@#@.

3. Pag domingo sa pagkabanhaw naa sya gipasiugda sa amoang lungsod na program. cultural siguro to and religious. karon gipugos niya ug paattend ang mga tawo. kay kinahanglan man magdala sa "GSK" passbook para naa attendance. kay kung wala naa napod multa na 300 pesos.

4. ang special mass karon sa amoang lungsod nagkantidad na ug 3000 pesos. ang nahitabo karon. wala na nagpamisa ang mga schools sa amoang lungsod na naa graduation tungod sa kamahal.

ing ani na ba jud ang simbahan karon kwarta nalang ang pirmi hisgutan.

@ sumbohan: bati diay ug performance si warren abarquez sa batuan?

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #64 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:15:12 AM »

Lupig paman sa America where priests are contented with people donating. Usahay wala paman gani kay part daw na sa work sa mga pari, i.e., to do the sacraments. Kung mo donate man galing, average na siguro nang $100 or less, which if converted is roughy around P4,200.

Bitaw Dre kay magpabunyag diri di man lisod lisoron ug naa rapud nimo ug mohatag ba ka pero usahay mag wonder pa ta pila ihatag kay uwaw pud ipangutana. Unya ang requirements kay basta catholic lang ka hatagan jud ka ug sacrament. Diha bitaw ko nagbagolbol kay akong pag umangkon naay anak pero wala pa kasla pero wala bunyagi kay kono mga pinanaangkan ug bunyagan man gani mo meet sa mga requirements ug bayronon. Naligsan pa nuon na ako pag umangkon mao to gopadali dali namo ug bunyag pero ang maguwang sa naligsan ing ingon intawon nga may pa kono maligsan pud siya aron mabunyagan.Laliman ka ani bata na ni ing ingon nga ultimo ning bataa willing jud kaayo magpabunyag.

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chicogon · « **Reply #65 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:25:24 AM »

@ sumbohan: bati diay ug performance si warren abarquez sa batuan?

Wahahahaha da gi hinganlan lagi

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chicogon · « **Reply #66 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:26:35 AM »

okey lang lagi. kai wa bitaw gi name-an imong apilido. bwahahahahaha

Bitaw no? Pwede pa diay ko motago sa angkang Lungay aron di mailhan hahahaha

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chicogon · « **Reply #67 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:28:13 AM »

Bitaw Dre kay magpabunyag diri di man lisod lisoron ug naa rapud nimo ug mohatag ba ka pero usahay mag wonder pa ta pila ihatag kay uwaw pud ipangutana. Unya ang requirements kay basta catholic lang ka hatagan jud ka ug sacrament. Diha bitaw ko nagbagolbol kay akong pag umangkon naay anak pero wala pa kasla pero wala bunyagi kay kono mga pinanaangkan ug bunyagan man gani mo meet sa mga requirements ug bayronon. Naligsan pa nuon na ako pag umangkon mao to gopadali dali namo ug bunyag pero ang maguwang sa naligsan ing ingon intawon nga may pa kono maligsan pud siya aron mabunyagan.Laliman ka ani bata na ni ing ingon nga ultimo ning bataa willing jud kaayo magpabunyag.

Kalooy pod sa bata. Deri kay bunyagan man maski out of wedlock ang anak. Di raba na sala sa bata, naamong hehehehe

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #68 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:32:34 AM »

Wahahahaha da gi hinganlan lagi

bitaw pads, nganong itago pa man na nila nga gihinganlan man ang ngalan sa lungsod. suod baya pud ni nako paria kay nadestino baya ni sa balilihan sa paghuman ug ordina ani. nakaadto man gani mi sa ilang balay sa kahayag.

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #69 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:34:52 AM »

bitaw pads, nganong itago pa man na nila nga gihinganlan man ang ngalan sa lungsod. suod baya pud ni nako paria kay nadestino baya ni sa balilihan sa paghuman ug ordina ani. nakaadto man gani mi sa ilang balay sa kahayag.

Bai BNC, Salise ang apelido sa pari nga ilang gi estoryahan sa Batuan...Kong WAA KO masayop.

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #70 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:35:55 AM »

Bitaw Dre kay magpabunyag diri di man lisod lisoron ug naa rapud nimo ug mohatag ba ka pero usahay mag wonder pa ta pila ihatag kay uwaw pud ipangutana. Unya ang requirements kay basta catholic lang ka hatagan jud ka ug sacrament. Diha bitaw ko nagbagolbol kay akong pag umangkon naay anak pero wala pa kasla pero wala bunyagi kay kono mga pinanaangkan ug bunyagan man gani mo meet sa mga requirements ug bayronon. Naligsan pa nuon na ako pag umangkon mao to gopadali dali namo ug bunyag pero ang maguwang sa naligsan ing ingon intawon nga may pa kono maligsan pud siya aron mabunyagan.Laliman ka ani bata na ni ing ingon nga ultimo ning bataa willing jud kaayo magpabunyag.

asa man ni dapita raqs? bunyagan ra man tawn ang bata bisan pinaangkan ra oi. unsyalan pud na nga rule. akong nahibaw-an ra kay dili pakalawaton sa pari kung mahibaw-an ang usa ka tawo or magtiayon nga gikasal ra sa huwes or civil dili sa simbahan.

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #71 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:36:48 AM »

test lang! mao ni ang link...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/edik.dolotina/posts/1837647912731

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chicogon · « **Reply #72 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:36:50 AM »

bitaw pads, nganong itago pa man na nila nga gihinganlan man ang ngalan sa lungsod. suod baya pud ni nako paria kay nadestino baya ni sa balilihan sa paghuman ug ordina ani. nakaadto man gani mi sa ilang balay sa kahayag.

Bitaw, gihinganlan man gani ko ni Brad Lorenz. Mag maskara na kog balik ani aron di bun-og bato ni media girl from Bohol

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #73 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:40:01 AM »

Bai BNC, Salise ang apelido sa pari nga ilang gi estoryahan sa Batuan...Kong WAA KO masayop.

BQN,

In that case, paryente diay ning pari sa Batuan nako. Kai naa baya ko dugo nga SALISE. Kining Salise taga Valencia baya ni sila...

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #74 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:41:31 AM »

BQN,

In that case, paryente diay ning pari sa Batuan nako. Kai naa baya ko dugo nga SALISE. Kining Salise taga Valencia baya ni sila...

Dong, basaha lang nang akong gibutang nga link, ug its up to you kong unsai imong ikasulti. Tino-od ba or dili...

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #75 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:41:44 AM »

Bitaw, gihinganlan man gani ko ni Brad Lorenz. Mag maskara na kog balik ani aron di bun-og bato ni media girl from Bohol

bwahahahahaha.

Na hala, mag bungot na lang pood, Fr. Roel. Sigurado ko ug mo grow ka ug bungot, dili lagi sila kahibalo kinsa ka.

Mo ingon sila, "Oy kinsa man nang guwapong jamo kaayong tawhana? Pari ba na sija? Di sigoro kai arang gwapoha man...!!"

bwahahahahahahaha

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #76 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:42:17 AM »

Sige, Nong. I basahon nako ron.

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #77 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:43:45 AM »

bwahahahahaha.

Na hala, mag bungot na lang pood, Fr. Roel. Sigurado ko ug mo grow ka ug bungot, dili lagi sila kahibalo kinsa ka.

Mo ingon sila, "Oy kinsa man nang guwapong jamo kaayong tawhana? Pari ba na sija? Di sigoro kai arang gwapoha man...!!"

bwahahahahahahaha

Sigurado ko, dili magpa bungot si Father CHIC. kai ngano? MAHAL BLADE!!!

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #78 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:44:53 AM »

yep dapat donations ra. pero karon naa na price na 3k. wa ko kabaw if mao jud na price kada special mass. pero sa mga schools gusto magpamisa last march para graduation mao daw na pangayo. mao wala nalang daw pamisa ang mga schools.

sa amoang parish diri kung asa ko nagpuyo karon. isangyaw kada dominggo isip pahibalo sa katawhan ang mga kausaban sa balayranan sa kasal, bunyag, lubong ug uban pang matang sa serbisyo nga gidalit sa simbahan. buhaton na nila kada human sa kalawat before manalangin sa ending sa mass. at least kani open kaayo nga paagi pagpahibalo. basin ako nagyawyaw ko sa una pagkahibalo nako sa mga changes pero wala tay mahimo mando sa atong simbahan. bisan asa ta nga simbahan paingon ma katoliko man ug dili duna jud rules ug balayranan. depende na nato unsaon pagsabot.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #79 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:46:26 AM »

Na luod ko lang sa first 5 lines sa original starter sa facebook. I do not particularly like the demeaning posts of some of the posters in that link, Nong.

Na wad-an ahong intersado sa adtong thread. Di na lang ko mo participate sa demeaning sa kining pari.

Whoever he is, and whatever he did, it should not be made a mockery in social network sites. But this should have been addressed accordingly and directly.

Network bashing of this man is on the grounds of libel. He cannot even defend himself.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #80 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:47:33 AM »

Sigurado ko, dili magpa bungot si Father CHIC. kai ngano? MAHAL BLADE!!!

hahahahaha. da! di ko mo tuo ana kai naa baja to sija bungot sa last year.

guapo baja ni si Fr. Roel. Mestizo guapo lagi.

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chicogon · « **Reply #81 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:50:22 AM »

Bai BNC, Salise ang apelido sa pari nga ilang gi estoryahan sa Batuan...Kong WAA KO masayop.

Aw, kaliwat diay pod nig taga Catigbian... iya Mama is a Reformina from Catigbian, unya Papa from Balingsya. Unya ang gikan sa Batuan tua karon sa Catigbian hehehe.

Parehas ra pod sa inyoha, BQN: ang dating kura sa Loboc nga si Fr. Alger Angcla, akong 1st degree cuzin from Catigbian, maoy tua karon sa Sandingan (Loon), unya ang gikan sa Sandingan, Fr. Mante, maoy napoy naa karon sa Loboc. Pero ang isyu sa Loboc apil man ang LGU. Unsa man joy tinuod isyu diha? Iapil ug bungat deri kay atong himbisan.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #82 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:51:42 AM »

Aw, kaliwat diay pod nig taga Catigbian... iya Mama is a Reformina from Catigbian, unya Papa from Balingsya. Unya ang gikan sa Batuan tua karon sa Catigbian hehehe.

Parehas ra pod sa inyoha, BQN: ang dating kura sa Loboc nga si Fr. Alger Angcla, akong 1st degree cuzin from Catigbian, maoy tua karon sa Sandingan (Loon), unya ang gikan sa Sandingan, Fr. Mante, maoy napoy naa karon sa Loboc. Pero ang isyu sa Loboc apil man ang LGU. Unsa man joy tinuod isyu diha? Iapil ug bungat deri kay atong himbisan.

Isuga lagi ni si Fr. Salise da. He does not care what those who bad-mouth his character says. Isug jamo!

Mao diay kai anak man diay sa VALENCIA.

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chicogon · « **Reply #83 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:52:33 AM »

Sige, Nong. I basahon nako ron.

Aguy! Abi nakog si Bay Hubs ray nong deri hahahaha

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #84 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:55:30 AM »

Ang mga thread starters sa Facebook, di pood sila ma luod no? Di pood sila ma uwawon no? Ning hound jud ni sila sa pari even tho Easter just recently past, they still are engaging in negative talks.

Hypocrites! Ug ma matay na sila, mo hilak ug mo hangyo hangyo sa pari i-ampohan sila kai dili sila gusto mo adto sa IMPYERNO, pero ug naay chance, ilang i bad-mouth-on ang pari, ang trabajante ni HESU KRISTO.

Na luod jud ko.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #85 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:58:04 AM »

1 man is being bad mouthed by hundreds and thousands and many more who use this as an agenda to bash Roman Catholic Church and Teachings.

Kamo tanan, ajaw mo pag bin-u-ang diri lagi. Ang mga demonyo ning katawa aning situwasyon.

Ampo na lang ta tanan nga ma solve ni dali.

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #86 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:59:20 AM »

Aw, kaliwat diay pod nig taga Catigbian... iya Mama is a Reformina from Catigbian, unya Papa from Balingsya. Unya ang gikan sa Batuan tua karon sa Catigbian hehehe.

Parehas ra pod sa inyoha, BQN: ang dating kura sa Loboc nga si Fr. Alger Angcla, akong 1st degree cuzin from Catigbian, maoy tua karon sa Sandingan (Loon), unya ang gikan sa Sandingan, Fr. Mante, maoy napoy naa karon sa Loboc. Pero ang isyu sa Loboc apil man ang LGU. Unsa man joy tinuod isyu diha? Iapil ug bungat deri kay atong himbisan.

Father CHIC, nangutana man kag unsai isyo, then mao ni...

Akong pangita-on tong link, kai aron imong mabasa mismo nga gikan sa taga Loboc nga tu-a didto ang mga mi reklamo...

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #87 on:** April 28, 2011, 05:01:29 AM »

Aguy! Abi nakog si Bay Hubs ray nong deri hahahaha

Bwahaha! NONG_ isilang ka sa mundong ito, wala kapa sa kamajingking ko

hahaha!

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chicogon · « **Reply #88 on:** April 28, 2011, 05:04:14 AM »

test lang! mao ni ang link...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/edik.dolotina/posts/1837647912731

Dili mogawas sa akong FB kay wala sa akong friends' list

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chicogon · « **Reply #89 on:** April 28, 2011, 05:06:08 AM »

Father CHIC, nangutana man kag unsai isyo, then mao ni...

Akong pangita-on tong link, kai aron imong mabasa mismo nga gikan sa taga Loboc nga tu-a didto ang mga mi reklamo...

Kabasa bitaw ko ato sa una didto sa Facebook... kadtong nagbuho sulod sa simbahan. Gikan man cguro to imong Bro

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chicogon · « **Reply #90 on:** April 28, 2011, 05:11:46 AM »

1 man is being bad mouthed by hundreds and thousands and many more who use this as an agenda to bash Roman Catholic Church and Teachings.

Kamo tanan, ajaw mo pag bin-u-ang diri lagi. Ang mga demonyo ning katawa aning situwasyon.

Ampo na lang ta tanan nga ma solve ni dali.

Demonstration of a devil = Demo Ni Oh

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #91 on:** April 28, 2011, 05:18:51 AM »

Kabasa bitaw ko ato sa una didto sa Facebook... kadtong nagbuho sulod sa simbahan. Gikan man cguro to imong Bro

Pad'z, lahi to nga isyo...gusto unta naho imong mabasa gikan sa mga katawhan sa Loboc nga mi reklamo, pero naglisod nakog pangita sa link...

Ang ilang reklamo, kanang sigi ug ingon ang pari nga kong mahimo, DILI SENSEYO ilang ihatag sa collection... Naa pa toi mahitungod sa cuarta sa simbahan nga tu-a gibutang sa iyang personal acct. BASTA, daghan ug issue ang pari karon sa Loboc...Moto-o baya ko ani Father Chic, kai waa may problema ang mga taga Loboc sa mga mi aging pari. It's ONLY MY OPINION...

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #92 on:** April 28, 2011, 06:44:13 AM »

Bai BNC, Salise ang apelido sa pari nga ilang gi estoryahan sa Batuan...Kong WAA KO masayop.

BQN, salise na ba diay ang name? abi nako sa nahawan na siya na-assign. kay last nako nahibaw-an si warren man to ang pari sa batuan. nag change assignments na diay sila ron?

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bol-anon quo nyur! · « **Reply #93 on:** April 28, 2011, 06:52:07 AM »

BQN, salise na ba diay ang name? abi nako sa nahawan na siya na-assign. kay last nako nahibaw-an si warren man to ang pari sa batuan. nag change assignments na diay sila ron?

bai BNC, mao mai name sa akong nabasa sa taga batuan...

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #94 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:23:32 AM »

bai BNC, mao mai name sa akong nabasa sa taga batuan...

ok na bai. ako na naconfirm sa akong amigo nga nagchange assignments diay sila ron. si warren naa na sa maribojoc kauban ni fr. bisol ug ang sa batuan si fr. salise jud.

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chicogon · « **Reply #95 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:37:16 AM »

Pad'z, lahi to nga isyo...gusto unta naho imong mabasa gikan sa mga katawhan sa Loboc nga mi reklamo, pero naglisod nakog pangita sa link...

Ang ilang reklamo, kanang sigi ug ingon ang pari nga kong mahimo, DILI SENSEYO ilang ihatag sa collection... Naa pa toi mahitungod sa cuarta sa simbahan nga tu-a gibutang sa iyang personal acct. BASTA, daghan ug issue ang pari karon sa Loboc...Moto-o baya ko ani Father Chic, kai waa may problema ang mga taga Loboc sa mga mi aging pari. It's ONLY MY OPINION...

Morag lain na na kung adto na sud sa personal account ang kwarta sa simbahan. Mora na na sa pamaagi sa Diocese of Talibon nga kanya-kanyag gimik kabahin sa kwarta kay nag free-for-all na sila didto. (Mao sad ila didto) Basin gusto ni moawat sa gihimo nila sa Talibon? Usa ra ba sa pinakadatu ning lungsod sa Loboc

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #96 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:31:11 AM »

Kalooy pod sa bata. Deri kay bunyagan man maski out of wedlock ang anak. Di raba na sala sa bata, naamong hehehehe

Mao bitaw nalooy jud ko aning bataa anak sa akong pag umangkon kay sa naligsan ug motor iyang manghud inghangyo mi sa pari sa tagbilaran nga pabunyagan mao gibunyagan dayon pero ang maguwang wala pa jud mabunyagi kay lagi wala pa kasla unya kining passbook passbook pud kay akong pag umangkon nagschooling man sa tagbi so dili jud siya active sa amoa mao murag gahi jud nila bunyagan kay dapat active jud daw aning cluster group. Nauna pa nuon ug bunyag tong usa nako ka pag umangkon nga college na bale mormons iya parents pero wala siya bunyagi mao akong gipa RCA ug nabunyagan to siya. Ug dili pa siya mabunyagan jud Dre bunyagi nalang puhon ug mouli ka sa bohol heheheh. Wala napud ko naka follow up bahin ani ug nabunyagan ba siya kay unsaon sa amoa ujat ujaton man nga way bunyag.

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chicogon · « **Reply #97 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:49:18 AM »

Mao bitaw nalooy jud ko aning bataa anak sa akong pag umangkon kay sa naligsan ug motor iyang manghud inghangyo mi sa pari sa tagbilaran nga pabunyagan mao gibunyagan dayon pero ang maguwang wala pa jud mabunyagi kay lagi wala pa kasla unya kining passbook passbook pud kay akong pag umangkon nagschooling man sa tagbi so dili jud siya active sa amoa mao murag gahi jud nila bunyagan kay dapat active jud daw aning cluster group. Nauna pa nuon ug bunyag tong usa nako ka pag umangkon nga college na bale mormons iya parents pero wala siya bunyagi mao akong gipa RCA ug nabunyagan to siya. Ug dili pa siya mabunyagan jud Dre bunyagi nalang puhon ug mouli ka sa bohol heheheh. Wala napud ko naka follow up bahin ani ug nabunyagan ba siya kay unsaon sa amoa ujat ujaton man nga way bunyag.

Di gehapon mahimo kay managhid man gehapon tas parokya... kay adto man ilista ang record sa bata hehehehe $:-\$

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #98 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:56:13 AM »

Na mao diay pud kapaet pud hunahunaon ug di pud tugtan na maoy gidangat, mahug jud ning bataa ug magpabunyag adtong mormons heheheh kay segi ra to sila balik balik sa isla hahahah.

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islander · « **Reply #99 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:55:05 PM »

Diha bitaw ko nagbagolbol kay akong pag umangkon naay anak pero wala pa kasla pero wala bunyagi kay kono mga pinanaangkan ug bunyagan man gani mo meet sa mga requirements ug bayronon.

terrible. pre-vatican 2 nga style man ni. the catholic church is dynamic. it goes with the times (aggiornamento). maybe there's something cultural at play here?

in any case, i found this explanation the simplest and the easiest to understand (from http://www.chnetwork.org/forum/the-sacraments/):

Today, legitimacy is irrelevant. I can believe that in the past there might have been a problem with the baptism of illegitimate children but I do not know that to be a fact. I do know that the Church no longer judges a suicide victim as unworthy of a Catholic funeral, and the two are closely related. At one time the Church made such judgments; since Vatican II, we presume the best rather than assuming the worst. It is, in my opinion, a significant change for the better.

I have been present at the baptism of the children of unmarried parents. Unfortunately, it is as common today as cohabitation. The sin of the parents is not vested on the child, so there is no reason the child should be refused the sacrament if there is at least a reasonable expectation that the child will be raised in the faith (often by a grandparent).

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