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sukad pag abot sa Pari sa amoang lungsod daghan kaayo reklamo ang mga tao. pero ang problema pod kay sige lang reklamo sa tago walay naay kaisog na mostorya sa Pari na sayop ang iyang gipangbuhat sa amoang lungsod sa batuan.
kani ang mga pipila nabantayan namo na sayop niya nga nabuhat.

1. Diha to namatay sa amoang lungsod na wala niya misahe kay wala syay pirma sa iyang GSK passbook ug wala pod sya bayad2 sa monthly contribution and 10 pesos. karon kinahanglan mo bayad ang hingtungdan sa mga bulan na wala sya bayad2 ug sa penalty na wala sya attend ug GSK

2. Ang among lungsod naa me shrine. ang nagtukod ani kay si Fr. Maniwan. karon dili daw sya mo misa adto kay private daw to. ?#@#@#@.

3. Pag domingo sa pagkabanhaw naa sya gipasiugda sa amoang lungsod na program. cultural siguro to and religious. karon gipugos niya ug paattend ang mga tawo. kay kinahanglan man magdala sa "GSK" passbook para naa attendance. kay kung wala naa napod multa na 300 pesos.

4. ang special mass karon sa amoang lungsod nagkantidad na ug 3000 pesos. ang nahitabo karon. wala na nagpamisa ang mga schools sa amoang lungsod na naa graduation tungod sa kamahal.

ing ani na ba jud ang simbahan karon kwarta nalang ang pirmi hisgutan.


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mao jud bai. public servant daw.

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para nako bai bugsay dili na ok. kay pugsanay na diay karon. isa pa usa na sa ilang trabaho mo misa sa usa ka patay. ma pobre man ni sya o madato.

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Pugsanay ang bayad? Wa diay kalainan sa INK...

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deli mana ingon ana,masmaayo nga ipa abot na sa bishop,,sayop jod,,deli ang simbahan nang warta ana kon di ang pari ra...kay kong moingon kag simbahan tanan diay?ngano deri sa amoa,,barato raman pamisa special,,,kanang deli prmihan cluster tinood jod na,,,naa naman sa balaod a simbahan,nganong deli man pod motoman,,wala man pod mamugos ang simbahan nga apil,nagpahayag ra sa unsay katuyoan,,,,,kanang di ilobong murag di na maayo,,naa nay warning,,tingalig gahian pod na mga tawhana,,,,,,ipa abot na sa bishop,,og ari tagbilaran puedi ka mo adto sa cathedral Munsinyor MALANOG,,,,HINAOT nga nakatabang ko,,,salamat

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salamat bai chriswise pero dili man ko kaanha sa tagbilaran kay wala man ko sa bohol nakabase.

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wala balaod sa simbahan nga wala kahibalo an meyebro,,,naka sure ko ana deri sa amoa,,,daghan bitaw balhin og lain relihiyon,,pero mao gihapon,,mas nisamot pa kay naa kota 50pesos,,di ka simba,,,,

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sayop jod,,,,maayo ipahibawo sa,,bishop,,,sure ko wala,,,or hinimo rapod na sa mga meyimbro,,nya kana tawhana absent maong wala ka reklamo,,majority siguro oyon,,,

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bitaw korek jod ka,,,naay secretary

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DELI na mao jod,,,manghod sa akong asawa graduate man pod to,,ako gani meeting PTA,,,gamay raman bayas misa oi,,,isumbong na sa dako,,kay usahay naa pod ingon ana nga nahitabo,,,

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Sumbohan,

The complaint that you are sharing with us, tho is apparent in the municipality that you are referencing to, is not true for all parishes as as not all parishes impose this. In fact, this is the first time I ever heard of such an incident. If there are transgressions that you and people in your town feel have been made by the new parish priest, perhaps it would be pertient for you and concerned church goers to go to the rectory and present this situation to the priest directly. Sometimes, it is better to ask the priest a reason for these practices and so there is transparency and resolution to the qualms that you and other respected , concerned citizens have.

If you feel that his answer is not sufficient, then perhaps it would be advisable to mention this to the Diocese of Tagbilaran City.

I do hope that this situation is resolved soon for you and other concerned church faithful.

God Bless.

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bitaw sir wala may dautan kon mo donate ba,dependi raman na sa atong gugma og kinasing kasing nga pag donate..mao bitaw akong giingon sa unahan na masmaayo nga mo sumbong or mangutana sila sa Cathedral,,kay sa gika ingon kona deli jod na dako pamisa,,,unsaon man pod kong walay bayad na unsa man diay mga mintinans sa simbahan,,,,katoliko raba diay ingon ana,,tanan man siguro,,,,

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the best recourse here is to separate first fact from fiction, foremost of which is whether it is really the priest who asks for such amounts or the church staff (or volunteer staff or whatever, with apologies for turning the spotlight on them here).

i thought of this because some years back, i learned about a retired bishop whose trusted aide undertook payment demands in the retired bishop's name.  those payments were for the retired bishop's inherited properties from his parents.  those payments never reached the retired bishop.    

once these rumors are proven as truths, no one can stop any parishioner from going to the bishop of the diocese.  a letter to the bishop (Most Rev. Leonardo Y. Medroso, D.D.) may spur an investigation.  an email from you will do, sombuhan.

mere stories passed around may prove unfair to the priest and to the catholic church.  many people and institutions have suffered because of hate campaigns.  would that this isn't one of those.  


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Angay ni isumbong o ipaabot sa kadagkuan sa Simbahan (Diocese) or di ba magkahiusa ang mga tawo and decide what is good for themselves... unya ila dayong estoryahon ang ilang kura paroko. Kung mag iya-iya ang mga tawo, there is no strength in that. Dakog purohan o chance, as in any place, nga di sila paminawon o tagdon. May gikasabotan man o wala (ang mga miembro sa GSK), "compassion," "mercy," "justice," & "love" remains the rule of any group who claims to be Christ's followers. Like the old Biblical saying goes, "they will know we are Christians by our love."


 

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naa ra bay mga pari nga di motagad sa nitty gritty sa temporal aspect of the church kay naa siyay trusted aides to do that.

i cannot help but be reminded here of how very real this is because of a personal experience of mine.  it didn't involve money but groceries.  

i once brought groceries to a certain missionary priest in a far-flung area in bohol.  it was because i was to stay in his mission for a weekend training-seminar.  even if i came as a trainor, i didn't want to burden the priest with my maintenance.  thus, i brought my own provisions and then some.  the priest told me to give everything to the volunteer cook.  

all throughout my stay, never were the groceries (eggs, corned beef, ham, sausages, etc.) that i brought served during meals.  all that we had were poorly cooked squid and dried fish.  even the kind of rice i brought was changed into something smelly and coarse.  i learned later that the cook brought my groceries to her family.  

the priest either didn't notice or if he did, he must have deemed it unimportant.

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yes!  kadaghanang gubot sa parokya, in our milieu, anha magsugod sa lay people.  mabibingka intawon ang pari nga maningkamot nga way labanan, ang pagtoo hinoon sa tanan tua nidapig sa pikas.

mao nga pwerteng alegreha tong pari sa una sa sto. nino sa cebu.  bata pa lagi unya usa pa gyod sa mga bright boys... nadungog nga sa iyang kalagot kay grabe na kaayo ang away-away ug intriga, siyagit na lang kuno siya ug "all you need is a big f_ck!"  gihipos gyod hinoon sa iyang superiors, wa na ipakita sa madlang people unya gihingok ug transfer sa manila.  para nako, mirisi tong mga bayhana.  magpaduol sa simbahan as devotees unya payts ra diay.

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maglisod kog tuo ani, fr chic.  i believe any self-respecting catholic would be pissed off if an amount is specified for a mass for certain important occasions.  and any self-respecting priest would not dare risk losing believers because of such unusually specified amounts.  what will a priest do if, after celebrating the mass at a graduation ceremony, he ends up getting nothing because it was inadvertently forgotten? will he take back the mass?  surely, the 'compensation' (for lack of a better term) is not 'paid' up front.  

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I don't really know what the whole truth is but this particular incident I knew about really took place; a parent told me (istorya2x lang god namo about 3 weeks ago). They were asked by the school (Regents in Mactan) to contribute for their children's Baccalaureate Mass kay P5 thou daw bayad to get a priest to say the Mass. How true I really don't know... but that's what they were told.


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big money, big mass
little money, little mass
no money, no mass....

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ngiaow!  malingaw man sad ang iring ani fr chic uy.

di ko suheto sa tinuod lang.  kusog lang ko mangobserbar kay kini laging di ta joiner pero himantayon kaayo, hehehe.  call it unusual interest with human nature and the workings of the human mind and heart...  

bitaw, kausa ra to nga training unya kay poor kaayo ang mission di maka-afford nga mokuha ug mga mahalon nga trainors.  ako ang gikuha kay free man ko, niplete sa kaugalingon, nagdala pa gyod ug kaugalingong pagkaon.  siyarog mangita pa gyod ang pari ug lain, hahaha!  

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