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Komento Ng Isang Foreigner... Grabe to!!!
« on: September 02, 2010, 02:55:58 AM »
comment on the latest incident in Phils....so embarrassing!
 


kir106 on August 25, 2010 at 1:47 pm
As a white person married to a filipina and father to two half dutch / filipino children, I feel for Philippines. I have sadness but I also have frustration and anger towards filipino culture (in some cases, filipino behaviour is idiotic)…because I see it in my wife, in my in-laws and her relations.
To most foreigners, we see and understand the bad things in filipino culture (and yet filipinos do not understand nor see the bad in themselves, why because you filipinos think that you are good people because you are catholics or born-agains….let me tell you, there are bad catholics and there are bad born-agains).
This sad story just highlights the idiotic nature of filipino culture and how it impacts on the filipino society. This bad side of the filipino culture was displayed over the world (via cable tv and internet, however we have ABS-CBN so we watched it live). I will try and explain in english and broken tagalog:

 
Idiot 1: stupid filipino negotiator

The filipino negotiator only talked for about 30 minutes then gave up. That is not how you do or practice negotiation skills in hostage situations. In other parts of the world, most negotiators do it for 48 hours. They give the hostagetaker lots of food and water to drink and talk to him all the time. The logic behind this is after 12 hours (of eating and drinking), they need to pee or poo (kailangan wee-wee at tae), so he have to get out of the bus, that’s when you need to attack him. Have you tried to talk on the phone when ebs is starting to come out? Its very hard. This is a technique filipino negotiators need to learn. Yes, the hostagetaker was given food…but it should have been more over a 48 hour period. After 48 hours, susuko din ito.

Idiot 2: stupid swat team with a hammer

There was a stupid swat team who was hammering the window with a long and heavy piledriver hammer. After 3 attempts he got tired, he needed to let go of the hammer and give his gun to his partner so he can rest. Well, next time try to work out in the gym, do some weights and jog to get fit. Sobra taba pagod agad.

Idiot 3: emergency lock out on hydraulic doors
All tour buses have an emergency lock out for the hydraulic doors. It’s located under the bus near the underside of the door. I saw on TV that they were trying to find out where the lock out is…instead the tababoy swat hammered the door, what did it do…nothing, it’s still remained close and he got tired somemore. In other parts of the world, the tactical response group practice everyday on how to attack or seige a hostage situation, they study all type of vehicles (airplanes, buses, trains, boats etc) and practice how to attack these positions. They study were the entry and exit are, where emergency doors are and how to stop these vehicles (just ask the Israel Tactical response group, they do this every day). Next time, study the layout of the bus first. Filipinos tend not to worry about what may happen, they only act when it is happening.

Idiot 4: Roping the door
Another swat team (the tababoy swat team have to be substituted he got tired) tried to rope the door and pull it using the Isuzu police truck…what happened? The rope broke….hellllloooo…..hydraulic doors are designed to stand against a lot of force and pressure. A rope made of abaca won’t open it.

Idiot 5: The bystander boy who got shot in the leg
A bystander got shot in the leg. Well, what do you expect? The swat team should have quarantined and sanctioned the area. Example: put a ribbon or barracade saying “Crime Scene” just like you see in the movies….or is the PNP to poor to buy one of those. Al bystanders should realise that they are not part of the event and if something happens to them it is their own fault. Buti nga sayo, buhay ka pa !!

Idiot 6: Throwing tear gas into the bus
It is idiotic to throw tear gas into a bus when nobody knew how many people were still alive. Of those dead people, I wonder how many died of tear gas suffocation. Of course, PNP will not admit it, they will say that the hostagetaker killed them. I do not trust filipino autospy. Filipinos tend to fake documents or stories to make them look good (it’s called ‘saving face’). As far as the PNP is concerned, the hostagetaker killed them and no other investigation is required.

Idiot 7:Firing into the bus
This is one of the most serious idiotic actions they did. Firing into the bus also creates ricochet (banda-banda). I wonder how many got killed because of this? Like number 6, PNP will not admit it.

Idiot 8: Swat team entering after the tear gas
This idiotic act is the one that made me laugh (and I am sure all tactical response group in the world will be using this as a “don’t do” training video because of its ‘kenkoy’ effect). Two swat teams enter the bus after they put the tear gas…what happened…they have to asked for help from the people outide to get them out because they cant breath…why…because they forgot the gas mask. Next time do an inventory of equipment you need in case of emergency

Idiot 9: The treatment of the brother and family of the hostagetaker
It was seen on TV that the wife, daughter and brother of the hostagetaker were treated poorly. Nobody helped them, not even the media. No person tried to help the family. In most society, a group of people will form a circle around the family to help them…nobody did that for them. Where is the people power…Philippines have done it before, why didn’t they do it then? No one offered help to the wife and the pregnant daughter, they saw their father killed in front of them. That is no way to treat people….for a country who claims to be ‘mapagmahal’, catholic and christian that was an utter embarrassment.

Idiot 10: Corrupt police
The hostagetaker wanted to clear his name because he was charged with corruption. Corruption…in the Phillippines….that’s news to me (sarcastic)!!! One policeman charged with corruption is not going to make a difference. Catching small corruption is not going to make a difference….the real corruption happens at the top of filipino government (ie Marcos, Erap, Arroyo).Us foreigners laugh at filipino stupidity because you do not learn, you get rid of Marcos because he was bad and corrupt, but still vote for Imelda and her children to become congressman and governor, give them a second chance to be corrupt again……so, nothing changed. That’s Corruption….and ‘katangahan ng pilipino’. In other countries, police treat one another like brothers and help them when they need it. It did not happen here.

Idiot 11: Media and dead people
This is the most idiotic and unacceptable behaviour that was displayed to the world. Filipino media is to be blamed for this. Respect and sensitivity should have been excersised by the media. They showed (in close up), the dead body of the hostagetaker hanging from the door with blood and brains dripping from the head, the dead body of a child and other dead bodies with blood being taken out of the bus. This should not have been televised. The relatives of the dead will not want it televised but the filipino media did. This is not good. Respect for the dead should have been observed.

Idiot 12: Laughing sniper
The sniper was interviewed by the media and he seemed to be happy and laughing when he told the reporter how he shot the hostagetaker in the head and that he was proud he killed him. The wife, daughter and father of the hostagetaker (watching from their province) will obviously will not want another person to hear how proud they were when he shot their husband / father. I hope that the sniper have a son, father, brother and I hope one day someone will shoot them infront of him and I want to know how he feels then.

CONCLUSION:
This will only give filipinos a bad name overseas. It will also affect filipinos who are born overseas, eventhough they have nothing to do with this, they will be judged of what filipinos in Philippines did.
For filipinos trying to get a visa to Canada, USA, UK, Europe etc…forget it…you will be judged by their immigration office for this kind of event. They already know that most filipinos are likely to be TNT and this backlash will make it even harder for filipinos to get visa.

Ganti on DH
I am sure, that Hong Kong / China will go on a massive revenge on filipina DH in hong kong. I am sure of it. HK and Chinese only see filipinas as lowly people who’s only role is to clean houses. PS: chinese people don’t know that Europeans look at them as lowly immigrants who clean toilets in europe….ganti din.
Ganti on japayuki
Also, Japanese people will take revenge on japayukis in Japan. Japanese people already treat filipinas like dirt and they will even treat them even worse because of this. Japanese people to not take filipinos in high regard…japanese only see filipinos as dirt people who will do anything just to get money (ie be japayuki in japan).

Ganti on OFW in Saudi
I’m sure too, that OFW in Saudi will also feel the revenge of people there because of this.
I am sure that my children will be teased and bullied at school because of this. My children, regardless of being half-white are still brown in colour, with black hair (but with blue eyes) and people know they are half-filipinos.
So filipinos in Philippines, your stupidity in your country is also ‘hawa-hawa’ to other filipinos overseas…they get judged by what you filipinos in Philippines do to yourselves or to others.
Internet order filipina brides will always get foreign husbands, unfortunately for filipino lalaki, there is no such thing as internet order filipino husbands (I never seen white woman with filipino husband), as more filipina marry foreigner more filipino lalaki are left behind in philippines (my wife said she does not like filipino lalaki because they are ‘tanga’…..I know she married me for money and greencard so she can send dollars to her batugan parents and batugan brothers, batugan cousins and batugan kapitbahay)….so, the only hope for Philippines is for half-foreigner and half-filipino children, half is better than stupid full-blood filipino.

 



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Re: Komento Ng Isang Foreigner... Grabe to!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2010, 03:07:03 AM »
AGAY!


VERY WELL SAID,,,,

reality ,...really bites....

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2010, 08:22:08 AM »
the truth hurts but we can't do anything about it. what he said was all true. when i watched the hostage crisis, it was like watching a movie (with a touch of comedy).... but why didn't he mention anything about the driver? my husband insisted that the driver was really the cause of it all.  if only he ignored the hitch-hiker (even if pulis pa cya), wala unta ni. as a driver, his main concern should be the safety of his passenger. hahay!!!! 

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Re: Komento Ng Isang Foreigner... Grabe to!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2010, 10:36:22 AM »
AGAY!


VERY WELL SAID,,,,

reality ,...really bites....

   ulahi na ang tanan! unsa man, isig ka blame na lang ta ani?  ::) ::) ::)

    Next question: unsa na ang next move?   ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2010, 05:56:38 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2010, 07:48:56 PM »

come on, we all know that this is only half well said, and that is already flattering this dutch guy who seems to own only half a mind. 

there's some truth to what he said, to be sure, but why look at the glass as half empty when it could also be half full?  just because our swat team was a failure and our tv channels were concerned with a scoop rather than helping save lives, does it mean that the whole nation is a failure and would go for news scoops instead of saving lives?  what a limited mind this dutch has, no wonder a mere paint brand carries this boy's name.   

and how presumptuous can he get to speak for the chinese and japanese?  what is he, an expert not only of hostage situations but also of the psychology of racial discrimination?   

no wonder he deserves his wife whom he describes as someone who married him for "money and green card".  now, who is more intelligent, the filipino wife who got what she wanted, or the dutch husband who's been had?

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2010, 11:42:42 PM »
come on, we all know that this is only half well said, and that is already flattering this dutch guy who seems to own only half a mind. 

there's some truth to what he said, to be sure, but why look at the glass as half empty when it could also be half full?  just because our swat team was a failure and our tv channels were concerned with a scoop rather than helping save lives, does it mean that the whole nation is a failure and would go for news scoops instead of saving lives?  what a limited mind this dutch has, no wonder a mere paint brand carries this boy's name.   

and how presumptuous can he get to speak for the chinese and japanese?  what is he, an expert not only of hostage situations but also of the psychology of racial discrimination?   

no wonder he deserves his wife whom he describes as someone who married him for "money and green card".  now, who is more intelligent, the filipino wife who got what she wanted, or the dutch husband who's been had?



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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2010, 12:16:53 AM »
Ouch! Some  truth hurts.Its true the way they handled the hostage situation appears stupid.You can go one by one of the mistakes but whats done is done.Im sure they learned their mistakes now.I hope.
I live here in U.S. and it was on the news once maybe.As for our Filipino culture I am proud of it.I would never changed it for the world.I don't care if it is silly to some.Even if I married a white guy {25 years today actually} I would not call Filipino men dumb{ was I right in translating the word tanga?} because I have brothers and they are smart men.
I feel bad of what happen but as for the backlash from other countries I think it will blow over when new headlines comes along...
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As for your wife sending money to her relatives you just have to learn to put up or shut up!

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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2010, 12:39:26 AM »
and why he still marry his filipina wife when he already knew the reason why she married him? he's also tanga. and i don't agree that it's hawa-hawa because there are more brilliant pinoys than the dumb ones. only those who are using their minds are the dumb asses. why would we excel in many sporting events, brainbender quizes and other things if we are tanga?
this comment came from a narrow minded person who should shove his head to his ass where it belongs.

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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2010, 03:58:23 AM »
This blogger never even respect his wife and her family how much more for us filipino. Utro pud ning banaha perti ka bugo. Big deal ba gyud diay tong hostage taking sa tibook kalibutan? NO walay nag care adto sa tinuod lang. Gibalita ra to kadali sa cable news unya wala na. Para kita ra ganing filipino ang grabeh nag big deal adto.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2010, 04:07:15 AM »
I am in no ways defending the actions of the late Inspt. Mendoza, however, the said writer has to take into consideration that these kinds of violent hostage cases are not specified nor are they prone in poor nations , but are quite universal. Our country being Filipino and the culture being Filipino has no relation to the said hostage taker. In fact, the reasons for the hostage taker's actions was due to what we call in psychiatry as: Manic Depressive. This individual was desperate, and after reading the history of his life, his life events and the said charges pressed upon him, one notices that the man was in a depressive stage, which he felt unfairly brought upon him by the authority, in this case, the police department.

Cases like these, which represent the mental inability to accept reality , a symptom seen and observed (unfortunately) in patients experiencing psychosis and acute manic episodes.

In fact, different countries around the world experience these said cases of acute violence by people who have been stretched to the limit, and or exacerbated with the fact that they had un-diagnosed manic depression, acute manic attacks. The police officer's inability to address the situation is not because they were Filipino, nay, it was because Manila has never had this kind of situation or experienced them in such abundance as say in countries like : The United States, and countries in the EU.

The writer, in my opinion, is using this situation to point out the negatives of the Filipino when in fact, there is no relation to that to the hostage situation.

Dear writer, before you complain about the Philippines, please look at the spiraling family life in the Netherlands and the pragmatic rising divorce rates, and uncontrolled drug use in good ol' Holland.

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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2010, 06:20:07 AM »
@ isang foriegner ..... up yours  :P

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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2010, 07:35:04 AM »
wala man gani naglangas ang philippines atong nahitabo sa mga madrigal didto sa china. kadtong shell executive nga nibakasyon sa china kuyog iyang asawa ug mga anak nga gitigbas didto ug namatay hasta ang iyang asawa ug 1 ka anak. wala gani siguro na siya kahibaw anang balitaa. kung nakahibaw siya dili siya pataka ug yawit.

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2010, 08:03:57 AM »
Hey! Dutch boy, you sure sound like a Monday morning quarter back....
       with a smart Pinay wife who digs into your pocket  8)

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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2010, 09:51:26 AM »
Agreed, his opinions were half b*** stemming from being married to a gold-digger.  A shame, because it detracted from the valid points that he made.

A more constructive criticism is in order, some soul searching with questions like:
Does religiosity have bad effects on society eg continuation of poverty?
Should so many of the brightest go overseas for work?
Should kids at school be inculcated with a more 'can-do' attitude, do they merely lack confidence?
Should public services that are useless (eg some of the PNP televised) be cut back or strictly monitored for performance?


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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2010, 09:56:34 AM »
Hey! Dutch boy, you sure sound like a Monday morning quarter back....
       with a smart Pinay wife who digs into your pocket  8)

 hehehehe, State's diba ang DUTCH BOY pintora mana! :D

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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2010, 10:02:08 AM »
BQN, mao gyud,  ;D maayo pintalan iyang simod para matak-um
       patoradas  lag panaway gi  round-up pa gyud tanan....

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2010, 03:27:50 PM »
Agreed, his opinions were half b*** stemming from being married to a gold-digger.  A shame, because it detracted from the valid points that he made.


yes, mr. ben.  dutch boy's incisive analysis got buried by his attacks on filipino culture as if the failure of the hostage crisis had anything to do with our culture and religion.  his rants against a people negated his logic. 

can anyone be credible if, say, he declares that dutch gay politician pim fortuyn, who had no police protection, was assassinated in 2002 by a fellow dutch because the dutch are promiscuous by nature (think xaviera hollander) and because the dutch are calvinists? 



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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2010, 03:50:45 PM »

or how about saying that theo van gogh (yes, the great-grandson of the brother of that dutch artist who cut his ears off) was murdered by a muslim because the dutch are intolerant of other religions, or that theo himself didn't take a bath because his great-granduncle vincent didn't?  far from it! 

or should i say that the dutch have cannabis-addled brains just because marijuana is available in their 'coffee shops'?  (poor filipino me was shocked when i went inside one in amsterdam, some years ago.  i was expecting an ordinary, everyday flower shop!  no, i didn't conclude that the dutch are crazy because marijuana is "legal" there.)
 
i could go on and on with countless illogical conclusions out of real events concerning nationalities and countries, but the fact remains that it would always be idiotic to conclude with sweeping generalizations such as what dutch boy did.

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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2010, 04:33:46 PM »

 ~"I am sure that my children will be teased and bullied at school because of this. My children, regardless of being half-white are still brown in colour, with black hair (but with blue eyes) and people know they are half-filipinos.
So filipinos in Philippines, your stupidity in your country is also ‘hawa-hawa’ to other filipinos overseas…they get judged by what you filipinos in Philippines do to yourselves or to others. "~


Switch off Schabuman(Mr.Kir),wake up,turn-on your brain to other channel..! The DutchFil. kids have notha to do with the hostage case and im pretty sure they wouldn't be teased @ school.Thanks to the teachers,kids and all living mammals in your place that they dont have the same brain cells structure like you  :-X
You are using the word "Filipinos" it seems you generalized, doncha combine the case of Peter with Hudas,the same thing that Pontius Pilato has nothin to do with Herudes..kapichie? I just hope your wife and kids never have the chance to read your blog,or else they will pump more schabu in your shrinked "Gehirn" whop§hala..!
Stupidity "hawa²"? Oh je, you are "throwing stones to your own home"..! Who act as lunatic now aherm§?
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Re: Komento Ng Isang Foreigner... Grabe to!!!
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2010, 04:56:24 PM »
A more constructive criticism is in order, some soul searching with questions like:
Does religiosity have bad effects on society eg continuation of poverty?
Should so many of the brightest go overseas for work?
Should kids at school be inculcated with a more 'can-do' attitude, do they merely lack confidence?
Should public services that are useless (eg some of the PNP televised) be cut back or strictly monitored for performance?


let me hazard some answers (purely personal ones; unlike dutch boy, i cannot speak for the whole filipino nation):

to question #1:  no.  religiosity, or religion, does not have a bad effect on society.  religion is basically society's moral compass.  how can a moral compass have a bad effect?

religion does not even have any bearing on poverty.  (apropos, i doubt if any religion in the world encourages any adherent to get rich quick or to choose dire poverty for that matter.)  what we do is often mistaking a people's culture and history with their religion.  

our muslim brothers in the south are considered comparatively poorer to their christian brethren in the north.  but there's our history showing that those in the land of promise in the south, where most, at the time, happen to be muslim, were dispossessed by those from the north, who happen to be christian.  the cause may have been human greed and insensibility.  definitely it wasn't religion.

it's somewhat similar to northern ireland, where irish catholics are supposedly poorer (or disadvantaged) than english protestants.  the cause, as we may know, was simply english government policy that favored protestants above catholics, which further encouraged protestant settlement in northern ireland.  after over five centuries, we know that the hostilities there continue to fester.

thus, it looks like bad politics, insensitive government policy, and human greed cause society to go awry.  religion does not, though it seems as if it's a whipping boy and a scapegoat.          


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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2010, 05:04:41 PM »
Cases like these, which represent the mental inability to accept reality , a symptom seen and observed (unfortunately) in patients experiencing psychosis and acute manic episodes.

any Rx?  (not for mendoza-- that would be rather too late in the day-- but for the blogger dutch boy. ;D)

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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2010, 06:21:12 PM »
A more constructive criticism is in order, some soul searching with questions like:
Does religiosity have bad effects on society eg continuation of poverty?
Should so many of the brightest go overseas for work?
Should kids at school be inculcated with a more 'can-do' attitude, do they merely lack confidence?
Should public services that are useless (eg some of the PNP televised) be cut back or strictly monitored for performance?


question #2:  not necessarily.  filipinos who go overseas for work cover the whole spectrum, from the brightest to the dullest, from the most educated to the least.  current statistics show that 1 in every 10 filipinos is abroad.  which means that for every bright or dull filipino working abroad, there are nine bright or dull filipinos who chose to stay in our own country.  whatever the logic is of my statistical interpretation ( ;D!), the truth is filipinos who chose to work abroad, regardless of their qualifications and intelligence quotients, chose to work abroad for a bigger pay. 

consider a domestic help.  rare, indeed, is a filipino household that could, and would, pay a monthly salary of 10k pesos.  let this same domestic help go abroad, and she could very well get this amount at the minimum.  that doesn't take much intelligence.

i understand the italians about two centuries ago experienced their own economic and job diaspora that we filipinos, and for that matter indians, chinese, mexicans, etc. are experiencing now.  today, italy is part of G8. 

i guess every nation has its time for wealth and greatness as it has its time for tragedy and humility.

meantime, we filipinos can take pride in the fact that there are the best and brightest of legal minds and the best and brightest of medical practitioners, academicians, engineers, among many other professions, who have chosen to remain.
 

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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2010, 07:42:00 PM »
A more constructive criticism is in order, some soul searching with questions like:
Does religiosity have bad effects on society eg continuation of poverty?
Should so many of the brightest go overseas for work?
Should kids at school be inculcated with a more 'can-do' attitude, do they merely lack confidence?
Should public services that are useless (eg some of the PNP televised) be cut back or strictly monitored for performance?


question #3:  luckily for us, inculcation of the 'can-do' attitude isn't lacking, nor confidence.  it is these kids at school who grow up with enough 'can-do' spirit and confidence that they can compete in the global work force without depending on their government's social welfare net (which is almost nil to begin with.)

question #4:  most definitely, with better investment in training and facilities to boot.


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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2010, 02:34:34 AM »
i'f i am the wife of this dutch blogger i should not let him sleep together and not to serve and cooked for him until he gains some respect,he is also an idiot dutch.

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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2010, 06:17:33 AM »

Who is to blame?

Hostage taker Capt. Rolando Mendoza - after his mandatory dismissal from service- stripped from his retirement benefits.  :o

PNP Swat - doing their ordered job with no courage, lack of skills, poor tools and dull-witted strategy (crowd control failure).  :-[ They should have to learn more....

Poor tourists - who were innocent enough just in a wrong place and time.  doom... :(  RIP!

Sad incidents like this...could happen everywhere! Fate! 

Our government or those who are concern for the safety of our visitors must have to do invest more to make our country  a better and safe tourist destination.






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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2010, 09:39:03 AM »
a continuation of the recent fiasco....


This is an article written by Atty. Alex Lacson, author of 12 LITTLE THINGS EVERY FILIPINO CAN DO TO HELP OUR COUNTRY and former Senatorial Candidate of the LP:

 

 

The Filipino Today

By Alex Lacson

 
After the August 23 hostage drama, there is just too much negativity about and against the Filipino.

“It is difficult to be a Filipino these days”, says a friend who works in Hongkong. “Nakakahiya tayo”, “Only in the Philippines” were some of the comments lawyer Trixie Cruz-Angeles received in her Facebook. There is this email supposedly written by a Dutch married to a Filipina, with 2 kids, making a litany of the supposed stupidity or idiocy of Filipinos in general.  There was also this statement by Fermi Wong, founder of Unison HongKong, where she said – “Filipino maids have a very low status in our city”. Then there is this article from a certain Daniel Wagner of Huffington Post, wherein he said he sees nothing good in our country’s future.
 
Clearly, the hostage crisis has spawned another crisis – a crisis of faith in the Filipino, one that exists in the minds of a significant number of Filipinos and some quarters in the world.
 
It is important for us Filipinos to take stock of ourselves as a people – of who we truly are as a people. It is important that we remind ourselves who the Filipino really is, before our young children believe all this negativity that they hear and read about the Filipino.
 
We have to protect and defend the Filipino in each one of us.
 
The August 23 hostage fiasco is now part of us as Filipinos, it being part now of our country’s and world’s history. But that is not all that there is to the Filipino. Yes, we accept it as a failure on our part, a disappointment to Hong Kong, China and to the whole world.
 
But there is so much more about the Filipino.
 
In 1945, at the end of World War II, Hitler and his Nazi had killed more than 6 million Jews in Europe. But in 1939, when the Jews and their families were fleeing Europe at a time when several countries refused to open their doors to them, our Philippines did the highly risky and the unlikely –thru President Manuel L Quezon, we opened our country’s doors and our nation’s heart to the fleeing and persecuted Jews. Eventually, some 1,200 Jews and their families made it to Manila. Last 21 June 2010, or 70 years later, the first ever monument honoring Quezon and the Filipino nation for this “open door policy” was inaugurated on Israeli soil, at the 65-hectare Holocaust Memorial Park in Rishon LeZion, Israel.
 
The Filipino heart is one of history’s biggest, one of the world’s rare jewels, and one of humanity’s greatest treasures.
 
In 2007, Baldomero M. Olivera, a Filipino, was chosen and awarded as the Scientist for the Year 2007 by Harvard University Foundation, for his work in neurotoxins which is produced by venomous cone snails commonly found in the tropical waters of Philippines. Olivera is a distinguished professor of biology at University of Utah, USA. The Scientist for the Year 2007 award was given to him in recognition to his outstanding contribution to science, particularly to molecular biology and groundbreaking work with conotoxins. The research conducted by Olivera’s group became the basis for the production of commercial drug called Prialt (generic name – Ziconotide), which is considered more effective than morphine and does not result in addiction.
 
The Filipino mind is one of the world’s best, one of humanity’s great assets.
 
The Filipino is capable of greatness, of making great sacrifices for the greater good of the least of our people. Josette Biyo is an example of this. Biyo has masteral and doctoral degress from one of the top universities in the Philippines – the De La Salle University (Taft, Manila) – where she used to teach rich college students and was paid well for it. But Dr Biyo left all that and all the glamour of Manila, and chose to teach in a far-away public school in a rural area in the province, receiving the salary of less than US$ 300 a month. When asked why she did that, she replied “but who will teach our children?” In recognition of the rarity of her kind, the world-famous Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the United States honoured Dr Biyo a very rare honor – by naming a small and new-discovered planet in our galaxy as “Biyo”.
 
The Filipino is one of humanity’s best examples on the greatness of human spirit!
 
Efren Penaflorida was born to a father who worked as a tricycle driver and a mother who worked as laundrywoman. Through sheer determination and the help of other people, Penaflorida finished college. In 1997, Penaflorida and his friends formed a group that made pushcarts (kariton) and loaded them with books, pens, crayons, blackboard, clothes, jugs of water, and a Philippine flag. Then he and his group would go to the public cemetery, market and garbage dump sites in Cavite City – to teach street children with reading, math, basic literacy skills and values, to save them from illegal drugs and prevent them from joining gangs. Penaflorida and his group have been doing this for more than a decade. Last year, Penaflorida was chosen and awarded as CNN Hero for 2009.
Efren Penaflorida is one of the great human beings alive today. And he is a Filipino!
 
Nestor Suplico is yet another example of the Filipino’s nobility of spirit. Suplico was a taxi driver In New York. On 17 July 2004, Suplico drove 43 miles from New York City to Connecticut, USA to return the US$80,000 worth of jewelry (rare black pearls) to his passenger who forgot it at the back seat of his taxi. When his passenger offered to give him a reward, Suplico even refused the reward. He just asked to be reimbursed for his taxi fuel for his travel to Connecticut. At the time, Suplico was just earning $80 a day as a taxi driver. What do you call that? That’s honesty in its purest sense. That is decency most sublime. And it occurred in New York, the Big Apple City, where all kinds of snakes and sinners abound, and a place where – according to American novelist Sydney Sheldon – angels no longer descend. No wonder all New York newspapers called him “New York’s Most Honest Taxi Driver”. The New York City Government also held a ceremony to officially acknowledge his noble deed. The Philippine Senate passed a Resolution for giving honors to the Filipino people and our country.
 
In Singapore, Filipina Marites Perez-Galam, 33, a mother of four, found a wallet in a public toilet near the restaurant where she works as the head waitress containing 16,000 Singaporean dollars (US $11,000). Maritess immediately handed the wallet to the restaurant manager of Imperial Herbal restaurant where she worked located in Vivo City Mall. The manager in turn reported the lost money to the mall’s management. It took the Indonesian woman less than two hours to claim her lost wallet intended for her son’s ear surgery that she and her husband saved for the medical treatment. Maritess refused the reward offered by the grateful owner and said it was the right thing to do.
 
The Filipina, in features and physical beauty, is one of the world’s most beautiful creatures! Look at this list – Gemma Cruz became the first Filipina to win Miss International in 1964; Gloria Diaz won as Miss Universe in 1969; Aurora Pijuan won Miss International in 1970; Margie Moran won Miss Universe in 1973; Evangeline Pascual was 1st runner up in Miss World 1974; Melanie Marquez was Miss International in 1979; Ruffa Gutierrez was 2nd runner up in Miss World 1993; Charlene Gonzalez was Miss Universe finalist in 1994; Mirriam Quiambao was Miss Universe 1st runner up in 1999; and last week, Venus Raj was 4th runner up in Miss Universe pageant.
 
I can cite more great Filipinos like Ramon Magsaysay, Ninoy Aquino, Leah Salonga, Manny Pacquaio, Paeng Nepomuceno, Tony Meloto, Joey Velasco, Juan Luna and Jose Rizal. For truly, there are many more great Filipinos who define who we are as a people and as a nation – each one of them is part of each one of us, for they are Filipinos like us, for they are part of our history as a people.
 
What we see and hear of the Filipino today is not all that there is about the Filipino. I believe that the Filipino is higher and greater than all these that we see and hear about the Filipino. God has a beautiful story for us as a people. And the story that we see today is but a fleeting portion of that beautiful story that is yet to fully unfold before the eyes of our world.
 
So let’s rise as one people. Let’s pick up the pieces. Let’s ask for understanding and forgiveness for our failure. Let us also ask for space and time to correct our mistakes, so we can improve our system.
 
To all of you my fellow Filipinos, let’s keep on building the Filipino great and respectable in the eyes of our world – one story, two stories, three stories at a time – by your story, by my story, by your child’s story, by your story of excellence at work, by another Filipino’s honesty in dealing with others, by another Pinoy’s example of extreme sacrifice, by the faith in God we Filipinos are known for.
 
Every Filipino, wherever he or she maybe in the world today, is part of the solution. Each one of us is part of the answer. Every one of us is part of the hope we seek for our country. The Filipino will not become a world-class citizen unless we are able to build a world-class homeland in our Philippines.
 
We are a beautiful people. Let no one in the world take that beauty away from you. Let no one in the world take away that beauty away from any of your children! We just have to learn – very soon – to build a beautiful country for ourselves, with an honest and competent government in our midst.
 
Mga kababayan, after reading this, I ask you to do two things.
 
First, defend and protect the Filipino whenever you can, especially among your children. Fight all this negativity about the Filipino that is circulating in many parts of the world. Let us not allow this single incident define who the Filipino is, and who we are as a people. And second, demand for good leadership and good government from our leaders. Question both their actions and inaction; expose the follies of their policies and decisions. The only way we can perfect our system is by engaging it. The only way we can solve our problem, is by facing it, head on.
 
We are all builders of the beauty and greatness of the Filipino. We are the architects of our nation’s success.
 
To all the people of HK and China, especially the relatives of the victims, my family and I deeply mourn with the loss of your loved ones. Every life is precious. My family and I humbly ask for your understanding and forgiveness.
 


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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2010, 09:45:38 AM »
Agreed, most of this doesn't have anything to do with the hostage taking, rather the more general complaints of the Dutch guy.

I was thinking that many organized religions encourage poverty because a poor person is more likely to be religious, in need of spiritual help.  There are wise men in the Church who must have noticed for a long time that followers have been increasing in the third world yet decreasing in the first world. 
But what would the mechanism be?  Many would say that lack of family planning is a root cause of poverty.  Also, religion often overemphasizes deference to authority, an enabler of corruption.
I suppose it depends upon your level of cynicism, but if you look back at the history of the major religions you see many crimes against humanity, so there is precedent.  I am suspicious because the Church has had so much political power here for so long, so they must take some of the responsibility for the current state of affairs.

let me hazard some answers (purely personal ones; unlike dutch boy, i cannot speak for the whole filipino nation):

to question #1:  no.  religiosity, or religion, does not have a bad effect on society.  religion is basically society's moral compass.  how can a moral compass have a bad effect?

religion does not even have any bearing on poverty.  (apropos, i doubt if any religion in the world encourages any adherent to get rich quick or to choose dire poverty for that matter.)  what we do is often mistaking a people's culture and history with their religion.  

our muslim brothers in the south are considered comparatively poorer to their christian brethren in the north.  but there's our history showing that those in the land of promise in the south, where most, at the time, happen to be muslim, were dispossessed by those from the north, who happen to be christian.  the cause may have been human greed and insensibility.  definitely it wasn't religion.

it's somewhat similar to northern ireland, where irish catholics are supposedly poorer (or disadvantaged) than english protestants.  the cause, as we may know, was simply english government policy that favored protestants above catholics, which further encouraged protestant settlement in northern ireland.  after over five centuries, we know that the hostilities there continue to fester.

thus, it looks like bad politics, insensitive government policy, and human greed cause society to go awry.  religion does not, though it seems as if it's a whipping boy and a scapegoat.          

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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2010, 11:35:43 AM »
Tinuod ba pod kaha ni nga Dutch ang nagsuwat?
Dali ra jud tawn maghimo2 og storya karon

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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2010, 04:27:03 PM »
Tinuod ba pod kaha ni nga Dutch ang nagsuwat?
Dali ra jud tawn maghimo2 og storya karon

Bitaw nagduda ko ani murag dili ni suwat sa usa ka foreigner, nag duda ko nga isa ra pod ka pilipino ang nagsulat ani, gadugang lag duot sa atong kaliwat.  Pero para kanako kadtong nahitabo adtong Aug.23, dili maoy sukaran sa atong pagka Pilipino.  Borrowed from Ms. Isles words "why look at the glass as half empty when it could also be half full?" and a reserved of thousand gallons full?  from the deeds of our Pilipino heroes and compatriots just think of it.

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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2010, 09:59:10 PM »
any Rx?  (not for mendoza-- that would be rather too late in the day-- but for the blogger dutch boy. ;D)

A spoon full of reality-check.

(as for Mendoza, it is too late--but he should have been on Haloperidol/Haldol and tranquelized...)

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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2010, 07:38:23 PM »
Agreed, most of this doesn't have anything to do with the hostage taking, rather the more general complaints of the Dutch guy.

I was thinking that many organized religions encourage poverty because a poor person is more likely to be religious, in need of spiritual help.  There are wise men in the Church who must have noticed for a long time that followers have been increasing in the third world yet decreasing in the first world. 


i believe, mr. ben, that it will be self-defeating for organized religion to encourage poverty.  (some practical questions if this were so would be something like:  who would support it?  what would be its logistical source for expansion?  whence cometh the font of tithe?)

irrefutably, a church whose members are happy is a successful church.  if such church encourages poverty among its members, it might be shooting itself in the foot.

if a poor person were more likely to become religious, i think it is because in the midst of material deprivation and possible despair, one seeks relief in prayer and hope.

but maybe, just maybe, there is a direct correlation between material wealth and the need for spiritual relief in the so-called organized church.  could it be that people in the first world are too busy enjoying material comforts and making money to support such comforts that they no longer have the time for spiritual reinforcements in an organized church?  would they rather go on weekend breaks to the wild outdoors than attend church service?       

i take comfort in my belief that government policy, history and the vestiges of colonization (some of which, once put down on paper as bilateral agreements upon a country’s independence, are truly lopsided in favor of the colonizer) make for poverty.  then there’s a people’s attitudes, one of which is the standard (usually western in our place and time) that they take as the yardstick for wealth.


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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2010, 07:43:38 PM »
But what would the mechanism be?  Many would say that lack of family planning is a root cause of poverty.  Also, religion often overemphasizes deference to authority, an enabler of corruption.

on the other hand, world demographics shows that first world countries have aging populations while third world ones generally have younger populations and higher birth rates.  then there are some anti-family planning advocates who claim that first world countries foot the bill for population control in third world countries because the first world fears that their respective populations would be overrun in the future.  i don’t know if this is a credible claim, but demographics certainly speaks for itself and first world aid almost always includes population control targets as a pre-requisite.

deference to authority is inherent in organizations, be they secular or religious.  it is understandably a factor for peace and order.  tolerating abuse of authority is another animal all together.  our nation is known for patience, but not endless patience.  we drove out marcos, for one.
     


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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2010, 07:59:10 PM »
I suppose it depends upon your level of cynicism, but if you look back at the history of the major religions you see many crimes against humanity, so there is precedent.  I am suspicious because the Church has had so much political power here for so long, so they must take some of the responsibility for the current state of affairs.

thanks for pointing out “cynicism” (it does get the better of me at times, i must admit).  the undeniable crimes against humanity in the history of many religions may be attributed to birth pangs at its kindest and, at its cruelest, to the equally undeniable human factor of greed at a time when there was no separation between church and state.  we know how european monarchies and aristocracies used religion to gain political ascendancy.  (with characters like the borgias, for one.)
 
it is equally undeniable that the church at the time also exercised political powers without regard but for its own survival and protection of its own powers.  but the major religions continue to stand despite the flaws of their people.

in our day and age, in this our country, the church may be perceived as having too much political power.  but i believe it is given more credit than it deserves in terms of influence.  yet it is a sector that has to be represented, and it happens to be a sector that likewise represents the majority. 

the church, in this case the catholic church, is just one among many sectors, as you may know.  there is even our homegrown iglesia ni cristo that’s noisier and more forceful in its attempts at political influence despite the fact that its adherents constitute a very small percentage of the population.  but sectors are here to stay, including cooking gas retailers and security guards whose representatives ran for congress.  the more, the merrier (i hope).

as for taking responsibility for the current state of affairs, every one of us will have to take that burden just as we all have to take credit when things get better.

meanwhile, all these negative stories about our country (dutch boy’s, for instance) make me wonder why we got high marks as a happy nation on the planet.  last i heard (which was 2 years ago), in a study of 50 countries our country was no. 12 followed by 13th placer the u.s.  in another study of 178 countries, the philippines came out the 17th happiest while the u.s., the world’s top economic power, came out 150th.

material wealth, after all, is subjective when it comes to happiness.  could it be because we take our religion seriously?

OT:  as for dutch boy, how poor can the non-whites of south africa be, even after apartheid, the legacy of the boers, they of dutch descent?     


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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2010, 08:01:04 PM »
Tinuod ba pod kaha ni nga Dutch ang nagsuwat?
Dali ra jud tawn maghimo2 og storya karon

whether he's a real dutch or a martian, 'tus, i'll take him at his word.

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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2010, 08:04:19 PM »
Bitaw nagduda ko ani murag dili ni suwat sa usa ka foreigner, nag duda ko nga isa ra pod ka pilipino ang nagsulat ani, gadugang lag duot sa atong kaliwat. 

kun pilipino man galing ni siya, bai vhinz, angay diay ni siyang kilawon.

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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2010, 09:37:31 PM »
kun pilipino man galing ni siya, bai vhinz, angay diay ni siyang kilawon.

mo lang mismo. akoa ang atay

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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2010, 10:35:12 PM »
mo lang mismo. akoa ang atay

Ayaw lang kilawa, Bay Kans. Here's a nice recipe...


Penn Dutch Liver Cakes

Ingredients 

1 egg, well beaten 
1 lb Dutch liver
ground bacon, sliced 
1 small onion, finely chopped 
1 tablespoon flour 
salt & pepper 

Preparation
 
To the ground Dutch liver add the egg, flour, onion, and salt & pepper. Mix well. Shape into round cakes and around each cake wrap a slice of bacon, fastening each with a toothpick. Put on hot skillet and fry until well done.


Bon appetit!  ;D



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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2010, 12:18:46 AM »
Ayaw lang kilawa, Bay Kans. Here's a nice recipe...


Penn Dutch Liver Cakes

Ingredients 

1 egg, well beaten 
1 lb Dutch liver
ground bacon, sliced 
1 small onion, finely chopped 
1 tablespoon flour 
salt & pepper 

Preparation
 
To the ground Dutch liver add the egg, flour, onion, and salt & pepper. Mix well. Shape into round cakes and around each cake wrap a slice of bacon, fastening each with a toothpick. Put on hot skillet and fry until well done.


Bon appetit!  ;D


Or put  it in a dutch oven. ;D

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Re: Komento Ng Isang Foreigner... Grabe to!!!
« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2010, 11:23:31 AM »
In summary, upon reflection:
  • There are many reasons to be proud of the Philippines.  There are also problems which need to be examined, even the sacred cows.
  • Dutch guy and the HK authorities are off base when they say the hostage foul-up is the fault of the whole Nation.  It's as if they were waiting for an opportunity to profess their superiority and to criticise collectively.
  • The best thing the PNP could do is show humility and invite the Hong Kong Tiger Squad to come and instruct them.

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