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« on: September 02, 2010, 02:55:58 AM »
comment on the latest incident in Phils....so embarrassing!
 


kir106 on August 25, 2010 at 1:47 pm
As a white person married to a filipina and father to two half dutch / filipino children, I feel for Philippines. I have sadness but I also have frustration and anger towards filipino culture (in some cases, filipino behaviour is idiotic)…because I see it in my wife, in my in-laws and her relations.
To most foreigners, we see and understand the bad things in filipino culture (and yet filipinos do not understand nor see the bad in themselves, why because you filipinos think that you are good people because you are catholics or born-agains….let me tell you, there are bad catholics and there are bad born-agains).
This sad story just highlights the idiotic nature of filipino culture and how it impacts on the filipino society. This bad side of the filipino culture was displayed over the world (via cable tv and internet, however we have ABS-CBN so we watched it live). I will try and explain in english and broken tagalog:

 
Idiot 1: stupid filipino negotiator

The filipino negotiator only talked for about 30 minutes then gave up. That is not how you do or practice negotiation skills in hostage situations. In other parts of the world, most negotiators do it for 48 hours. They give the hostagetaker lots of food and water to drink and talk to him all the time. The logic behind this is after 12 hours (of eating and drinking), they need to pee or poo (kailangan wee-wee at tae), so he have to get out of the bus, that’s when you need to attack him. Have you tried to talk on the phone when ebs is starting to come out? Its very hard. This is a technique filipino negotiators need to learn. Yes, the hostagetaker was given food…but it should have been more over a 48 hour period. After 48 hours, susuko din ito.

Idiot 2: stupid swat team with a hammer

There was a stupid swat team who was hammering the window with a long and heavy piledriver hammer. After 3 attempts he got tired, he needed to let go of the hammer and give his gun to his partner so he can rest. Well, next time try to work out in the gym, do some weights and jog to get fit. Sobra taba pagod agad.

Idiot 3: emergency lock out on hydraulic doors
All tour buses have an emergency lock out for the hydraulic doors. It’s located under the bus near the underside of the door. I saw on TV that they were trying to find out where the lock out is…instead the tababoy swat hammered the door, what did it do…nothing, it’s still remained close and he got tired somemore. In other parts of the world, the tactical response group practice everyday on how to attack or seige a hostage situation, they study all type of vehicles (airplanes, buses, trains, boats etc) and practice how to attack these positions. They study were the entry and exit are, where emergency doors are and how to stop these vehicles (just ask the Israel Tactical response group, they do this every day). Next time, study the layout of the bus first. Filipinos tend not to worry about what may happen, they only act when it is happening.

Idiot 4: Roping the door
Another swat team (the tababoy swat team have to be substituted he got tired) tried to rope the door and pull it using the Isuzu police truck…what happened? The rope broke….hellllloooo…..hydraulic doors are designed to stand against a lot of force and pressure. A rope made of abaca won’t open it.

Idiot 5: The bystander boy who got shot in the leg
A bystander got shot in the leg. Well, what do you expect? The swat team should have quarantined and sanctioned the area. Example: put a ribbon or barracade saying “Crime Scene” just like you see in the movies….or is the PNP to poor to buy one of those. Al bystanders should realise that they are not part of the event and if something happens to them it is their own fault. Buti nga sayo, buhay ka pa !!

Idiot 6: Throwing tear gas into the bus
It is idiotic to throw tear gas into a bus when nobody knew how many people were still alive. Of those dead people, I wonder how many died of tear gas suffocation. Of course, PNP will not admit it, they will say that the hostagetaker killed them. I do not trust filipino autospy. Filipinos tend to fake documents or stories to make them look good (it’s called ‘saving face’). As far as the PNP is concerned, the hostagetaker killed them and no other investigation is required.

Idiot 7:Firing into the bus
This is one of the most serious idiotic actions they did. Firing into the bus also creates ricochet (banda-banda). I wonder how many got killed because of this? Like number 6, PNP will not admit it.

Idiot 8: Swat team entering after the tear gas
This idiotic act is the one that made me laugh (and I am sure all tactical response group in the world will be using this as a “don’t do” training video because of its ‘kenkoy’ effect). Two swat teams enter the bus after they put the tear gas…what happened…they have to asked for help from the people outide to get them out because they cant breath…why…because they forgot the gas mask. Next time do an inventory of equipment you need in case of emergency

Idiot 9: The treatment of the brother and family of the hostagetaker
It was seen on TV that the wife, daughter and brother of the hostagetaker were treated poorly. Nobody helped them, not even the media. No person tried to help the family. In most society, a group of people will form a circle around the family to help them…nobody did that for them. Where is the people power…Philippines have done it before, why didn’t they do it then? No one offered help to the wife and the pregnant daughter, they saw their father killed in front of them. That is no way to treat people….for a country who claims to be ‘mapagmahal’, catholic and christian that was an utter embarrassment.

Idiot 10: Corrupt police
The hostagetaker wanted to clear his name because he was charged with corruption. Corruption…in the Phillippines….that’s news to me (sarcastic)!!! One policeman charged with corruption is not going to make a difference. Catching small corruption is not going to make a difference….the real corruption happens at the top of filipino government (ie Marcos, Erap, Arroyo).Us foreigners laugh at filipino stupidity because you do not learn, you get rid of Marcos because he was bad and corrupt, but still vote for Imelda and her children to become congressman and governor, give them a second chance to be corrupt again……so, nothing changed. That’s Corruption….and ‘katangahan ng pilipino’. In other countries, police treat one another like brothers and help them when they need it. It did not happen here.

Idiot 11: Media and dead people
This is the most idiotic and unacceptable behaviour that was displayed to the world. Filipino media is to be blamed for this. Respect and sensitivity should have been excersised by the media. They showed (in close up), the dead body of the hostagetaker hanging from the door with blood and brains dripping from the head, the dead body of a child and other dead bodies with blood being taken out of the bus. This should not have been televised. The relatives of the dead will not want it televised but the filipino media did. This is not good. Respect for the dead should have been observed.

Idiot 12: Laughing sniper
The sniper was interviewed by the media and he seemed to be happy and laughing when he told the reporter how he shot the hostagetaker in the head and that he was proud he killed him. The wife, daughter and father of the hostagetaker (watching from their province) will obviously will not want another person to hear how proud they were when he shot their husband / father. I hope that the sniper have a son, father, brother and I hope one day someone will shoot them infront of him and I want to know how he feels then.

CONCLUSION:
This will only give filipinos a bad name overseas. It will also affect filipinos who are born overseas, eventhough they have nothing to do with this, they will be judged of what filipinos in Philippines did.
For filipinos trying to get a visa to Canada, USA, UK, Europe etc…forget it…you will be judged by their immigration office for this kind of event. They already know that most filipinos are likely to be TNT and this backlash will make it even harder for filipinos to get visa.

Ganti on DH
I am sure, that Hong Kong / China will go on a massive revenge on filipina DH in hong kong. I am sure of it. HK and Chinese only see filipinas as lowly people who’s only role is to clean houses. PS: chinese people don’t know that Europeans look at them as lowly immigrants who clean toilets in europe….ganti din.
Ganti on japayuki
Also, Japanese people will take revenge on japayukis in Japan. Japanese people already treat filipinas like dirt and they will even treat them even worse because of this. Japanese people to not take filipinos in high regard…japanese only see filipinos as dirt people who will do anything just to get money (ie be japayuki in japan).

Ganti on OFW in Saudi
I’m sure too, that OFW in Saudi will also feel the revenge of people there because of this.
I am sure that my children will be teased and bullied at school because of this. My children, regardless of being half-white are still brown in colour, with black hair (but with blue eyes) and people know they are half-filipinos.
So filipinos in Philippines, your stupidity in your country is also ‘hawa-hawa’ to other filipinos overseas…they get judged by what you filipinos in Philippines do to yourselves or to others.
Internet order filipina brides will always get foreign husbands, unfortunately for filipino lalaki, there is no such thing as internet order filipino husbands (I never seen white woman with filipino husband), as more filipina marry foreigner more filipino lalaki are left behind in philippines (my wife said she does not like filipino lalaki because they are ‘tanga’…..I know she married me for money and greencard so she can send dollars to her batugan parents and batugan brothers, batugan cousins and batugan kapitbahay)….so, the only hope for Philippines is for half-foreigner and half-filipino children, half is better than stupid full-blood filipino.

 



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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2010, 03:07:03 AM »
AGAY!


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reality ,...really bites....
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2010, 08:22:08 AM »
the truth hurts but we can't do anything about it. what he said was all true. when i watched the hostage crisis, it was like watching a movie (with a touch of comedy).... but why didn't he mention anything about the driver? my husband insisted that the driver was really the cause of it all.  if only he ignored the hitch-hiker (even if pulis pa cya), wala unta ni. as a driver, his main concern should be the safety of his passenger. hahay!!!! 
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2010, 10:36:22 AM »
AGAY![/b]


VERY WELL SAID,,,,

reality ,...really bites....

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2010, 05:56:38 PM »
'tang 'na!!! >:(

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2010, 07:48:56 PM »

come on, we all know that this is only half well said, and that is already flattering this dutch guy who seems to own only half a mind. 

there's some truth to what he said, to be sure, but why look at the glass as half empty when it could also be half full?  just because our swat team was a failure and our tv channels were concerned with a scoop rather than helping save lives, does it mean that the whole nation is a failure and would go for news scoops instead of saving lives?  what a limited mind this dutch has, no wonder a mere paint brand carries this boy's name.   

and how presumptuous can he get to speak for the chinese and japanese?  what is he, an expert not only of hostage situations but also of the psychology of racial discrimination?   

no wonder he deserves his wife whom he describes as someone who married him for "money and green card".  now, who is more intelligent, the filipino wife who got what she wanted, or the dutch husband who's been had?
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2010, 11:42:42 PM »



    agree ko ani MS Isles. ;D

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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2010, 12:16:53 AM »
Ouch! Some  truth hurts.Its true the way they handled the hostage situation appears stupid.You can go one by one of the mistakes but whats done is done.Im sure they learned their mistakes now.I hope.
I live here in U.S. and it was on the news once maybe.As for our Filipino culture I am proud of it.I would never changed it for the world.I don't care if it is silly to some.Even if I married a white guy {25 years today actually} I would not call Filipino men dumb{ was I right in translating the word tanga?} because I have brothers and they are smart men.
I feel bad of what happen but as for the backlash from other countries I think it will blow over when new headlines comes along...
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As for your wife sending money to her relatives you just have to learn to put up or shut up!

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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2010, 12:39:26 AM »
and why he still marry his filipina wife when he already knew the reason why she married him? he's also tanga. and i don't agree that it's hawa-hawa because there are more brilliant pinoys than the dumb ones. only those who are using their minds are the dumb asses. why would we excel in many sporting events, brainbender quizes and other things if we are tanga?
this comment came from a narrow minded person who should shove his head to his ass where it belongs.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2010, 03:58:23 AM »
This blogger never even respect his wife and her family how much more for us filipino. Utro pud ning banaha perti ka bugo. Big deal ba gyud diay tong hostage taking sa tibook kalibutan? NO walay nag care adto sa tinuod lang. Gibalita ra to kadali sa cable news unya wala na. Para kita ra ganing filipino ang grabeh nag big deal adto.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2010, 04:07:15 AM »
I am in no ways defending the actions of the late Inspt. Mendoza, however, the said writer has to take into consideration that these kinds of violent hostage cases are not specified nor are they prone in poor nations , but are quite universal. Our country being Filipino and the culture being Filipino has no relation to the said hostage taker. In fact, the reasons for the hostage taker's actions was due to what we call in psychiatry as: Manic Depressive. This individual was desperate, and after reading the history of his life, his life events and the said charges pressed upon him, one notices that the man was in a depressive stage, which he felt unfairly brought upon him by the authority, in this case, the police department.

Cases like these, which represent the mental inability to accept reality , a symptom seen and observed (unfortunately) in patients experiencing psychosis and acute manic episodes.

In fact, different countries around the world experience these said cases of acute violence by people who have been stretched to the limit, and or exacerbated with the fact that they had un-diagnosed manic depression, acute manic attacks. The police officer's inability to address the situation is not because they were Filipino, nay, it was because Manila has never had this kind of situation or experienced them in such abundance as say in countries like : The United States, and countries in the EU.

The writer, in my opinion, is using this situation to point out the negatives of the Filipino when in fact, there is no relation to that to the hostage situation.

Dear writer, before you complain about the Philippines, please look at the spiraling family life in the Netherlands and the pragmatic rising divorce rates, and uncontrolled drug use in good ol' Holland.

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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2010, 06:20:07 AM »
@ isang foriegner ..... up yours  :P

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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2010, 07:35:04 AM »
wala man gani naglangas ang philippines atong nahitabo sa mga madrigal didto sa china. kadtong shell executive nga nibakasyon sa china kuyog iyang asawa ug mga anak nga gitigbas didto ug namatay hasta ang iyang asawa ug 1 ka anak. wala gani siguro na siya kahibaw anang balitaa. kung nakahibaw siya dili siya pataka ug yawit.

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2010, 08:03:57 AM »
Hey! Dutch boy, you sure sound like a Monday morning quarter back....
       with a smart Pinay wife who digs into your pocket  8)
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2010, 09:51:26 AM »
Agreed, his opinions were half b*** stemming from being married to a gold-digger.  A shame, because it detracted from the valid points that he made.

A more constructive criticism is in order, some soul searching with questions like:
Does religiosity have bad effects on society eg continuation of poverty?
Should so many of the brightest go overseas for work?
Should kids at school be inculcated with a more 'can-do' attitude, do they merely lack confidence?
Should public services that are useless (eg some of the PNP televised) be cut back or strictly monitored for performance?

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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2010, 09:56:34 AM »

 hehehehe, State's diba ang DUTCH BOY pintora mana! :D

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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2010, 10:02:08 AM »
BQN, mao gyud,  ;D maayo pintalan iyang simod para matak-um
       patoradas  lag panaway gi  round-up pa gyud tanan....

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2010, 03:27:50 PM »

yes, mr. ben.  dutch boy's incisive analysis got buried by his attacks on filipino culture as if the failure of the hostage crisis had anything to do with our culture and religion.  his rants against a people negated his logic. 

can anyone be credible if, say, he declares that dutch gay politician pim fortuyn, who had no police protection, was assassinated in 2002 by a fellow dutch because the dutch are promiscuous by nature (think xaviera hollander) and because the dutch are calvinists? 


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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2010, 03:50:45 PM »

or how about saying that theo van gogh (yes, the great-grandson of the brother of that dutch artist who cut his ears off) was murdered by a muslim because the dutch are intolerant of other religions, or that theo himself didn't take a bath because his great-granduncle vincent didn't?  far from it! 

or should i say that the dutch have cannabis-addled brains just because marijuana is available in their 'coffee shops'?  (poor filipino me was shocked when i went inside one in amsterdam, some years ago.  i was expecting an ordinary, everyday flower shop!  no, i didn't conclude that the dutch are crazy because marijuana is "legal" there.)
 
i could go on and on with countless illogical conclusions out of real events concerning nationalities and countries, but the fact remains that it would always be idiotic to conclude with sweeping generalizations such as what dutch boy did.

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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2010, 04:33:46 PM »

Switch off Schabuman(Mr.Kir),wake up,turn-on your brain to other channel..! The DutchFil. kids have notha to do with the hostage case and im pretty sure they wouldn't be teased @ school.Thanks to the teachers,kids and all living mammals in your place that they dont have the same brain cells structure like you  :-X
You are using the word "Filipinos" it seems you generalized, doncha combine the case of Peter with Hudas,the same thing that Pontius Pilato has nothin to do with Herudes..kapichie? I just hope your wife and kids never have the chance to read your blog,or else they will pump more schabu in your shrinked "Gehirn" whop§hala..!
Stupidity "hawa²"? Oh je, you are "throwing stones to your own home"..! Who act as lunatic now aherm§?
Welterusten and Guten mor..Mor..gen maayong panghimuta diha, kon wala ky lingaw pagpaiz na lang ug utot dara :P (pwede ba yan?)
“Logical consequences are the scarecrows of fools and the beacons of wise men.”~Thomas Henry Huxley~



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