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Job Mismatch blamed for unemployment in the Philippines
« on: March 19, 2009, 03:13:15 PM »
http://www.gmanews.tv/video/38548/QTV-Job-mismatch-hounds-applicants-despite-job-vacancies

According to this link, one of the main reasons of unemployment or underemployment in the Philippines is job mismatch which means that the academic qualifications of the filipinos do not seem to match the demands of the job market.

One good system I have learned here in Germany is that kids cannot just simply choose the course they want, this must match with their mental abilities and propensity.  Meaning if you are very bad in Math, it would be hard for you to grab a "platz" , which literally means place of space connotating a limited place at the university.

On the otherhand, Filipinos normally follow trends as what is "hot" abroad, thereby over producing nurses, etc.. 

It is about time that the CHED reviews the curriculum, discarding unnecessary subjects and give more focus to practical knowledge than theory.

There is also a need to reinforce highschool and elementary education.  I am a teacher at the university and I have personally noticed first year students who are not yet mentally ready for university education.

It would might as well be helpful to integrate foreign languages as an elective.  This is of course expensive because there are only few foreign language teachers in the Philippines but this would give us a very good advantage.

We already have good reputation abroad, let us not waste it. 

Only through a better education , we can be globally competetive.

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2009, 03:58:40 PM »
ug na boksing pani. pakyaw vs dilahoja.

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 07:40:14 PM »
so you mean first year college are not mentally prepared for university or college,this is a joke,we filipinos have a good foundation in education,job mismatch is the only reason the govt can use to ease the global problem for job losses,site an example what the govt can help to those OFW who lost their jobs,offered training at TESDA for more qualification,is this the right thing to offer?how about offering and finding jobs somewhere else or offer money assistance for their family instead..what about their plans to make the nursing course to 5 years course?unbeleivable idea..

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 08:28:18 PM »
so you mean first year college are not mentally prepared for university or college,this is a joke,we filipinos have a good foundation in education,job mismatch is the only reason the govt can use to ease the global problem for job losses,site an example what the govt can help to those OFW who lost their jobs,offered training at TESDA for more qualification,is this the right thing to offer?how about offering and finding jobs somewhere else or offer money assistance for their family instead..what about their plans to make the nursing course to 5 years course?unbeleivable idea..

Are you a first year college student?

Please constructively consider the following suggested corrections:
first year college - first year college students (you mean)
site an example - cite an example
unbeleivable - unbelievable
the global problem for - the global problem of

Please always take note that every sentence must have a subject and a predicate.  This is basic in English.  Very simple to follow.


Are you sure that majority of the Filipino first year college students are capable of a collegiate English listening and reading comprehension and writing proficiency?

Offering money assistance to the family? funny.

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 08:34:30 PM »
Good foundation in Education? That's why Filipinos are second to the last in the entire of Southeast Asia for Math and Sciences in primary and elementary level, because we have a good foundation in education.

Well, "good" is relative.  Maybe good for the stone age era.

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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2009, 09:25:46 PM »
kalooy sa pilipino.  dili globally competitive kay di kahibawo moininglis.  day edna taronga nang imong ininglisan diha aron ka madawat sa university of germany ???  no wonder nga daghang ofw kay dili diay ta competitve... how ironic :P

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009, 09:44:13 PM »
nganung mauwaw man ta muangkon oi kung tinood. mag hinambog ta nga kuyaw ta compared sa ubang nasud bisan gabitay diay ta?

ang punto lang intawun nako, nga ang mga first year college students sa pilipinas, kasagaran, dili pa mentally ready!!

ang ironic ana, mao nga maghinambog ta lihiro ta mu eninglis unyag, pag bukad sa bunsod, wala diay isda nga migawas puro, kasag.

personal experience nako no? duro ko hinambog nga ang pinas, is one of the best english speaking countries in asia, when a friend of mine heard a pinay speaking english.. he asked me, are you sure?

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Re: Job Mismatch blamed for unemployment in the Philippines
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2009, 09:47:19 PM »
Kung muingon ka nga maayo ang foundation sa atong education, dili unta gabitay atong mga estudiyante sa mga achievement tests.

dili unta muhinaway si terry hatcher sa mga pinoy doctors kung maayo pa atong reputation?

ang OFW imung gi ingon , skilled workers ang nag daghan.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009, 09:50:11 PM »
Kadtong comment nako nga daghan first year students nga dili mentally and psychologically ready for university education, based on personal experience to siya as a teacher.

Imagine ka, nag teach ko sauna ug mixed group (sagol tanan nga kurso), maglisud ka kay ang comprehension sa uban hinay.

So ang ending intawun nako.  Sigeg balik balik..

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2009, 09:51:44 PM »
ang kaparat sa mga Pilipino, sigeg gadali.  pwede man unta ug taas taasan gamay kanang highschool ba pareha sa ubang nasud. para inig tung tung ug kolehiyo, mature na sila.

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2009, 11:08:47 PM »
nganung mauwaw man ta muangkon oi kung tinood. mag hinambog ta nga kuyaw ta compared sa ubang nasud bisan gabitay diay ta?

ang punto lang intawun nako, nga ang mga first year college students sa pilipinas, kasagaran, dili pa mentally ready!!

ang ironic ana, mao nga maghinambog ta lihiro ta mu eninglis unyag, pag bukad sa bunsod, wala diay isda nga migawas puro, kasag.

personal experience nako no? duro ko hinambog nga ang pinas, is one of the best english speaking countries in asia, when a friend of mine heard a pinay speaking english.. he asked me, are you sure?

ngek! hahaha. ikaw ra diay tung nang hambog. ajaw pod. maong mag-ininglis nang uban aron lagi pod intawon mapraktis. who cares about subject and predicate.  basta magkasinabot lang pyts na.

skilled ofw mas daghan kay sa dili? i doubt it. try the middle east...

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2009, 11:14:51 PM »
ngek! hahaha. ikaw ra diay tung nang hambog. ajaw pod. maong mag-ininglis nang uban aron lagi pod intawon mapraktis. who cares about subject and predicate.  basta magkasinabot lang pyts na.

skilled ofw mas daghan kay sa dili? i doubt it. try the middle east...

mao dili ta manghambog, because experience is the best teacher! Of course no, national pride nato nga english speaking country ta, pero daghan mahagbong sa IELTS. pwera sa maayo nga naka pasar.

Dili ka manghambog kung wala kay ipanghambog.




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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2009, 11:16:44 PM »
middle east?  tan awa ang record the Department of Labor . mas gikinahanglan ug skilled workers sa middle east.

wala diay intawun nimo kwentahan atong mga domestic helper? construction workers? they come in bulks intawun no.

base your arguments according to facts kay palamoot.

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2009, 11:19:51 PM »
The quality of education is of course not only measured through English Proficiency but If we do claim that our English proficiency is good enough based on international standards,  we should think twice.




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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2009, 11:25:17 PM »
Kung muingon ka nga maayo ang foundation sa atong education, dili unta gabitay atong mga estudiyante sa mga achievement tests.

dili unta muhinaway si terry hatcher sa mga pinoy doctors kung maayo pa atong reputation?

ang OFW imung gi ingon , skilled workers ang nag daghan.


ikaw ra baja nagingon nga skilled workers ang nagdaghan...

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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2009, 11:29:28 PM »
wala ka nakasabot.

ingun ka nga maayo ang education sa pinas ang mupamatood ani mga OFWs. ang akong giingon skilled workers ang nagdaghan. unya dili ni siya maoy atong basihan sa quality of education.

ang gi diskusyunan man gud, quality of education!!!???

klaro na ba

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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2009, 11:34:09 PM »
dili nimo ma measure ang quality of education sa pilipinas pinaagi sa OFW. kay ngano?

skill based ni siya gani!!

Training ba? kasabot? gitudloan diay ta sa university manglaba?mamplantsa?mag file ug hollow blocks?

exception ang mga nurses, skilled workers na sila, pero degree holders.. mga engineer sad.

pero ang bulk sa atong skilled workers, construction workers, domestic helpers, technicians.
informal education man ng ila-- training.

atong gihisgutan , formal education man? di ba?

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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2009, 11:37:07 PM »
simple nga punto windgate!

Muingun diay ka nga kuyaw ang edukasyon sa Pinas, kung ang usa ka Pilipino, kuyaw mu file ug hollow blocks?



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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2009, 11:42:32 PM »
wala ka nakasabot.

ingun ka nga maayo ang education sa pinas ang mupamatood ani mga OFWs. ang akong giingon skilled workers ang nagdaghan. unya dili ni siya maoy atong basihan sa quality of education.

ang gi diskusyunan man gud, quality of education!!!???

klaro na ba


Yes maam.  wala jud ko nag-ingon nga maayo ang education sa Pilipinas.  Lain lang paminawaon nga imong lait-laiton ang mga nangabilin dire pareja adtong baje nga imong gicorrectionan ug ininglis.  You are talking of competitiveness.  Dili pa ba diay igo nang mga ofw nga daghan jamo skilled or unskilled bisag di kahibawo moininglis. hehehe

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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2009, 11:47:39 PM »
Kanus nahimong lait ang constructive nga correction?  ako to siya nga gi point out, para maka realize siya nga ang quality of education sa pilipinas, dili igo to be competetive.
nanghambog man siya mismo nga kuyaw ang education sa pilipinas, unbelievable kuno.

unya, dili man niya matarong iyang eninglis?

 sa laing bahin, kontento ra diay ta?

nga tigpadala ta ug domestic helper? construction worker?

meaning, kita ang kinakuyawan sa tanang domestic helper? construction worker?


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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2009, 11:49:44 PM »
so you mean first year college are not mentally prepared for university or college,this is a joke,we filipinos have a good foundation in education,job mismatch is the only reason the govt can use to ease the global problem for job losses,site an example what the govt can help to those OFW who lost their jobs,offered training at TESDA for more qualification,is this the right thing to offer?how about offering and finding jobs somewhere else or offer money assistance for their family instead..what about their plans to make the nursing course to 5 years course?unbeleivable idea..
basaha ra gud nag usob?

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2009, 11:52:18 PM »
Kanang study sa job mismatch, independent organisation nga gi-contract sa International Labor Organization ang nag conduct dili gobyerno.

wala sila nagpataka taka.

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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2009, 12:00:52 AM »
sagdi ra jud nang balikogbalikog nang ijang ininglisan.  imbis nicontribute na sija sa imong thread nawala na nuon kay imo mang a suphon.  everybody is entitled to their own opinion.  ajaw na laman ipakita na imong pagka high and mighty.  You maybe a doctorate pero unsaon na man lang ming mga gagmayg utok.  :-[

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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2009, 12:06:21 AM »
wala nako gipahambog ang akong pagka doktora, abogada Lourdes Libres Rosaroso ug tito nash. " Kini ang akong suliran" sa dyrf cebu.

ako lang gihimung example siya, para mobomerang niya ang iyang gisulti..   tan awa ra gud, nag binisaya man gani ta ani.

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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2009, 12:08:47 AM »
dili ko hambugera, maldita ko. tinood na siya.

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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2009, 12:13:41 AM »
amen.  mao lagi.  hapit naka mapikon. ;)  tulog na ko oi kay alasdose na dire sa amo mamalhin pa ra ba kog kabaw ugma buntag sajo.  nyt madam...

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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2009, 10:32:29 PM »
apology for my wrong spelling mam,and also for my wrong sentence,so are you perfect enough for all of these just because you're a teacher,i am not a first year college as you stated,im a licensed mechanical engineer and currently working and living in england but unfortunately,im working at the reception in ramada hotels,i had no problem communicating with the english people so far for my 11 years here in england.and the topic is clear job mismatch,how could this happened?give me a valid reason.

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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2009, 11:00:32 PM »
Edna, I did not mean to demean you.  I only set you as a good example as you were so eager to claim that the quality of education in the Philippines is good and that first year students are generally ready for college education which isn't at all times the case.


Even now as you told me, you are a good example of underemployment.  You are a degree holder in Engineering but working as a receptionist in a hotel.

This is the reality which we want in the future not to happen.  We want you to be competetive as an engineer, globally.

Job mismatch Edna, is that when your qualifications do not seem to match the required skills of the job.  Like for example, a nurse applying as a lawyer, which is impossible.  This is hyperbole though, but it is an example of job mismatch.

This is true in the Philippines.  Not maybe the main reason of unemployment, but it is a contributing factor.

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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2009, 12:44:46 AM »
maong naay job mismatch kay jutay lang ang mga openings unya daghan ang walay trabaho. kadtong mga walay trabaho maskin og dili sila fit sa requirements mamasin lang mag apply galing og makapasa o dawaton tungod sa kalisod karong higayona.

daghan ang walay trabaho kumpara sa job openings nga dyutay lang.

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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2009, 08:20:59 AM »


Even now as you told me, you are a good example of underemployment.  You are a degree holder in Engineering but working as a receptionist in a hotel.

This is the reality which we want in the future not to happen.  We want you to be competetive as an engineer, globally.

Job mismatch Edna, is that when your qualifications do not seem to match the required skills of the job.  Like for example, a nurse applying as a lawyer, which is impossible.  This is hyperbole though, but it is an example of job mismatch.

This is true in the Philippines.  Not maybe the main reason of unemployment, but it is a contributing factor.

in a perfect world madam puede na imong giingon - an engineer to be an engineer and not just a receptionist in a hotel.  pero in reality its all about how you earn a living with dignity or say how you make money.  kadaghan diha doctors turned farmer or engineers turned managers pero okay lang so long as they are contented.

Job mismatch here in the Phil.?  Naay daghan - e.g. graduates becoming salesperson,  pero dili ko motuo nga mao ni cause of unemployment dinhi.  Nangita lang ug pasangil nang gobyerno kay wala silay mahatag nga trabaho.  Moingon pa hinuon ka nga dili nila tagaan ug trabaho ang mga pinoy aron manggawas sa nasud aron daghan dolyares mapadala sa pinas, motuo pa ko. ;D >:(

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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2009, 12:24:21 PM »
daghan man job mismatch dere na brain-drain kintahay, kay mga college grads sa Pinas nya maid ang bagsak dere but wala man na igsapayan basta dollar lang haha!

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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2009, 02:45:29 PM »
nahimo man gani presidente sa nasod ang artista

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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2009, 05:59:28 PM »
nahimo man gani presidente sa nasod ang artista

bitaw! dahilan lang nila kay wala may kasudlan sa daghang mga walay trabaho. sa una pa man ng job mismatch ui kay nag work ko sa Plaza Fair sa una unya ang na assign sa ice cream section graduate ng Engineer. pautot lang na nila ui?

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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2009, 07:38:06 PM »
in a perfect world madam puede na imong giingon - an engineer to be an engineer and not just a receptionist in a hotel.  pero in reality its all about how you earn a living with dignity or say how you make money.  kadaghan diha doctors turned farmer or engineers turned managers pero okay lang so long as they are contented.

Job mismatch here in the Phil.?  Naay daghan - e.g. graduates becoming salesperson,  pero dili ko motuo nga mao ni cause of unemployment dinhi.  Nangita lang ug pasangil nang gobyerno kay wala silay mahatag nga trabaho.  Moingon pa hinuon ka nga dili nila tagaan ug trabaho ang mga pinoy aron manggawas sa nasud aron daghan dolyares mapadala sa pinas, motuo pa ko. ;D >:(

hoy ayaw pagtaka- taka, kay dili gobyerno nag conduct ani nga study, International Labor Organization.

pity.

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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2009, 07:40:02 PM »
nahimo man gani presidente sa nasod ang artista
nakabasa ba ka sa basic qualification of a president sa Philippine Constitution?


pag basa una oi, before ka mo comment.

kay ang gi require nga educational qualification sa constitution able to read and write ra.

so asa man ang job mismatch?

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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2009, 07:41:35 PM »
bitaw! dahilan lang nila kay wala may kasudlan sa daghang mga walay trabaho. sa una pa man ng job mismatch ui kay nag work ko sa Plaza Fair sa una unya ang na assign sa ice cream section graduate ng Engineer. pautot lang na nila ui?

nangandoy ba ang usa ka estudiyante sa engineering nga inig kahuman niya ug skwela, mu trabaho siya sa usa ka ice cream parlor?

ikaw siguro, pag eskwela nimo ambisyun na nimo.

huna hunaa una oi.

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Re: Job Mismatch blamed for unemployment in the Philippines
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2009, 07:43:19 PM »
daghan man job mismatch dere na brain-drain kintahay, kay mga college grads sa Pinas nya maid ang bagsak dere but wala man na igsapayan basta dollar lang haha!

bitaw, mao in demand ang pinoy sa gawas sa pagka maid, kay asa man ka mangita ug maid nga degree holder?

asa man ka mangita ug lawyer nga tig limpyo ug kulungan sa iro sa italy?

asa man ka mangita ug nurse, nga doctor nahumanan?

sige lang basta dollar.??

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Re: Job Mismatch blamed for unemployment in the Philippines
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2009, 09:15:59 PM »
bitaw, mao in demand ang pinoy sa gawas sa pagka maid, kay asa man ka mangita ug maid nga degree holder?

asa man ka mangita ug lawyer nga tig limpyo ug kulungan sa iro sa italy?

asa man ka mangita ug nurse, nga doctor nahumanan?

sige lang basta dollar.??
mam just a simple question,How did you arrived in Germany by applying a job as a teacher?

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Re: Job Mismatch blamed for unemployment in the Philippines
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2009, 09:20:53 PM »
nangandoy ba ang usa ka estudiyante sa engineering nga inig kahuman niya ug skwela, mu trabaho siya sa usa ka ice cream parlor?

ikaw siguro, pag eskwela nimo ambisyun na nimo.

huna hunaa una oi.

Sorry, I don't want to step down to your level.

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Re: Job Mismatch blamed for unemployment in the Philippines
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2009, 09:22:08 PM »
Sorry, I don't want to step down to your level.

really, so where is your level? hahaha

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