Author Topic: Sucking Sand to be Dumped Back Along Alona (Read 6641 times)

apothecary · « **on:** January 07, 2009, 05:04:37 PM »

The governor was quite candid about it.

To solve the diminishing sand along the beachfront of Alona in Tawala, he proposed to borrow a dredger from Marra Construction to do the job.

To him, it is that simple. Tow the barge, dip its suction pumps down there where he said would all be sand because it has been simply washed out from the shorelines.

He said a well-known diver, a gud named Holger is providing him the underwater fotos where the suction pumps would suck sand.

And all to extend the beachline so that the occupant establishment encroaching the 20 meter public access zones can edge a bit and now be outside the banned public areas.

Along Alona stretch? where snorkelers get a satisfying peep at the coral cover near the beaches, they would be tampering with nature? Oh my!

why cant they kick out them assholes sitting on the beachfronts to clear the public access zones according to law?

Because they cant do it, "theyre getting the pier to come to the boat?"

And claiming it is for the environment? How ingenious.

What can you say?

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2009, 05:39:11 PM »

Altered nature is not nature. Its quality and value diminished.

The sand from ocean floor is coarse grain. It can not replace the powdery fine sand on the shoreline as it takes years to accumulate such by action of wave and weather.

If this happens, tourists will experience coarse sand and not the powdery sand that they came for. All they will get is frustration and by next tourist season, they will look for another destination.

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hofelina · « **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2009, 07:14:32 PM »

Kining si Holger nga German scuba diver, kining iyang bitiis gipaak sa pating sa Australia, pato-o to-o.He has no qualifications, not even a college graduate per German standards You can not tamper with soil erosion. The ocean and seashore is changing. You can ask Guindulmanons how the beach in Sawang is changed.
Wait for awhile and you will see more dramatic changes not far in the fuure.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2009, 07:34:23 PM »

Naunsa diay Manay ang beach sa sawang. Sa una nakakita ko adto. Hugaw man kay naa ra sa kilid ang merkado ug ang tanan nga garbage ug waste water adto tanan sa dagat.

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apothecary · « **Reply #4 on:** January 09, 2009, 09:48:29 AM »

It is in this light that i am calling any Boholano environmentalist, not the one that admits hes an extremist (kay kini sila di moaon og baki, tilapi, utan nangka, bago ug kamunngay kay anti-environment kuno) to shed light on this.

Bisan personal opinion that we can present before the barges would start the job they would be told to do.

Poor Alona, raped.

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hofelina · « **Reply #5 on:** January 09, 2009, 03:49:14 PM »

You can not control the run of nature, because of the melting of ice in the polar areas, the sea is getting higher. There are internal upheavals below the sea, thatÂ´s why tsunami is common. There are also freak waves that are beyond the brain of the scientists when it happens.
This I learned from my daughter who is studying this profession, I will research more and share with you.
Maosik ang kwarta nga gastohon, ipa-presenta and feasibility study before anything gets started, try to move the locals.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #6 on:** January 10, 2009, 10:38:15 PM »

dredging sand from the ocean floor in order to spruce up some shoreline with more sand is nothing new. back in the early 80s, the coastline of dio island in tacloban city which is owned by one of imelda marcos' brothers was filled in with more sand that ws dredged from somewhere. in the late 80s, i visited white island in camiguin where my guide informed me that the boat which was anchored in the distance was dredging sand from the ocean floor. during the early part of the new millenium, there was noise in the media regarding some sand bars belonging to talibon and getafe areas that were "sinking" due to unauthorized and unregulated dredging of the sand supposedly to beautify and provide sand to the otherwise rocky shorelines of mactan island especially those fronting 5-star resorts. thus, doing the same thing for alona beach is quite possible. however, it can only work if they lay the sand beyond the reach of the water at high tide. but if they intend to extend the beach area towards the water, then they are going to need a very large volume of sand to accomplish that. it would be similar to reclamation and i seriously doubt if the provincial government has the financial resources to do that.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2009, 10:47:06 PM »

apothecary: i am quite intrigued by these people whom you describe as extremist environmentalists. are they in bohol? from the sound of it, i would imagine that they should be the kind of people who would not ride any type of vehicle that is powered by fossil fuel, and do not wear clothing that are made from either petrochemical sources such as nylon, polyester and the like, or animal hide which leaves them nothing else to wear except organic cotton (which is not found anywhere near bohol or the philippines for that matter) or raffia (saguran). nonetheless, i would appreciate if you can provide information on the matter. thanx.

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hofelina · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2009, 10:47:44 PM »

This uncetainty makes me very unhappy. The money comes from taxes. And taxes are paid bravely by the lowly common tao. Big business have their own tricks to evade taxes so with some prominent actors and personalities. This project is not 100%, and it might succumed to a white elephant projects. Masayang ang kwrta, daghang gipang gotom. Unya matingala ang gobyerno nganong nisaka ang insurgency!

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2009, 12:31:17 AM »

I would like to disagree with them of doing that...that was so stupid idea...then what will happen to the species that habitate in that ocean floor?

That was so stupid and selfish!

Leave the nature alone!!

you FOOLS!

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2009, 04:00:29 PM »

i understand your concern, mdb. but because it's been done before, there's a big likelihood that provincial authorities will proceed to do it if they have the resources it takes to undertake the project. unless someone is able to hammer down some good logic and rationality into their thick heads.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2009, 04:16:17 PM »

akoy magsamok-samok ini nga thread!

im for the dredging just for the heck of it! LOL

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2009, 06:16:14 PM »

akoy magsamok-samok ini nga thread!

im for the dredging just for the heck of it! LOL

Dredge the thread! Cool, Calle baby

Bitaw, Alona beach needs to be saved. Adding sand on the beach may be one solution but it should be coupled with the removal of man-made structures that hastens sand erosion and enforcement of the set back from the beachfront.

Also, the government should realize (I'm sure they do) that there will be some sort of adverse impacts from pumping the sand from the ocean's bottom. The area where to pump the sand from should be carefully selected and mitigating measures should be in place.

I don't think it's proper that the government should shoulder all the expense for the project. The beach resort owners should pay the bulk of the expense because they will be directly benefited from it when the beach will be beautified.

Cool! Now let me build my sand castle in the air

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hofelina · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2009, 06:24:08 PM »

I will relate to you an experience;
There was a barrio assembly meeting in Barrio Booy, a couple of years ago. I attended out of curiousity and also as an expatriate of Booy. The discussions was the sand barges, collectors of sands to be sold for building and construction purposes The people of Booy are very irritated with this business in this area. I put up a question, asking of course their permission, as who profits most of this activity? Who gets the taxes? Are the people aware of the environmental consequences, menos na ug amahong, lato ug mga isda.
I was astound that some youth aired their gripes, I did not know that there are no amahong and other seashells which a food supplement for the barrio people and the taxes gets the city and not the barrio. The issue was to stop this sand bancas, and revoke the business permits thru barrio resolutions.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #14 on:** January 13, 2009, 08:28:44 AM »

murag sa cebu nay manmade nga mga sand baligja.

bnc, asa gani na? murag sa carmen man siguro na. palit na lang mga taga alona adto.

the dredging, i think, is for the benefit of the beach owners. the government should not shoulder the expenses.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #15 on:** January 13, 2009, 09:49:19 AM »

dili jud gasto, di jud pwede,PERIOD! (sus tua na sa akong all caps)

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TOPAC · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2009, 10:57:07 AM »

PERIOD

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2009, 12:11:30 PM »

As in ang period sama KADAKO sa usa ka lugas nga bonbon. PERIOD

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TOPAC · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2009, 12:29:10 PM »

unsaon pag kuan kong nay period ang baje?

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2009, 01:43:50 PM »

magbasa na laman ug PERIODIKO si Boypren!

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hofelina · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2009, 07:42:03 PM »

Ondoy Macky ang daplin sa dagat sa sawang Guindulman, morag gikobkob angin sa kakusog sa bawod. ang mga balay dool sa dagat nangada-ot, ang akong classmate sa una si Marding Berse, guba na ang ilang dakong balay. Kanang mga taga Tabajan, motaas gani ang taob, lanaw ang tubig hangtod sa may taytayan. Palihug pangotan-a ang imong mga kaila diha kon unsa nay bag-ong kausaban.

warm regards,
Manay

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apothecary · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:43:20 AM »

55,000 to 65,000 cubic meters of sand from the depths of Alona be sucked and restored to the beachfronts. All to extend the beachfronts by 20 meters.

because the officials who should be implementing the 20-meter access zones can not bulldoze the illegfal structures because these are owned by moneyed people.

So they are willing to compromise the environment.

That is how i simply see it.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2009, 09:09:42 AM »

sounds so simple apothecary. indeed.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:04:48 AM »

dool ra pod sa beachfront ang mga structures. alona ra diay naay probleman nga sama ani?

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apothecary · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:24:05 AM »

Obviously, Alona would be the Pandoras Box of sorts.

They would also have to do something with that structure built by some wealthy guys in Baclayon along Laya, the Bohol Tropics, Miravilla, Jjs Seafoods, Ramiro Hospital perhaps?

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TOPAC · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:30:58 PM »

what an enumeration apothecary!

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:52:28 PM »

if the intention of adding sand along the shore line of alona beach is to extend the beach front towards the water, then the whole initiative is going to be counter productive.

while it is technically possible to extend the beach front in such manner, the corals that abound right in front of the shore line are going to be covered in the process.

in other words, this development initiative, if pursued in the above manner, only destroys the structures that provide habitat to marine life in the area.

and without the diverse marine life that the corals support, what else is there to see under the water???

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:57:48 PM »

and if there is nothing interesting to see under the water, what is the point of going to alona beach at all???

ergo, dumping more sand to extend beachfront toward the water can actually diminish the number of tourists that will go to that area in the long term.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2009, 04:30:43 AM »

is that what only makes Alona interesting? the underwater sceneries?

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Moyhua · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2009, 08:31:49 AM »

Post na lng ko pics sa akong pag umangkon nga nagduwa-duwa sa mga bas sa Panglao.

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Dot (.) · « **Reply #30 on:** February 21, 2009, 06:54:11 PM »

is that what only makes Alona interesting? the underwater sceneries?

No. Many Boholanos find it more interesting gawking at foreign tourists on the sand without their tops on.

It's a pity that many Boholanos do not have the opportunity (or the interest) to see the beauty of our underwater treasurers.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #31 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:08:26 AM »

dot, i do.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:57:56 AM »

No. Many Boholanos find it more interesting gawking at foreign tourists on the sand without their tops on.

It's a pity that many Boholanos do not have the opportunity (or the interest) to see the beauty of our underwater treasurers.

it's probably the only thing many of us can afford. watching up, not down. lol

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #33 on:** February 24, 2009, 08:07:46 PM »

Gawking has been elevated as a delicate form of art.
You have to look without getting caught watching
Act oblivious without being out of place
Enjoy the view without attracting attention to your bulging self

Funny what the sun, sand and the salty air can do to mortals like us

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:03:00 PM »

Gawking has been elevated as a delicate form of art.
You have to look without getting caught watching
Act oblivious without being out of place
Enjoy the view without attracting attention to your bulging self

Funny what the sun, sand and the salty air can do to mortals like us

that's true, GEC.

but i never bother even with my grotesque behavior
i enjoy what human nature has to offer
albeit i'm guilty of self-gratification. lol.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #35 on:** February 24, 2009, 11:16:04 PM »

View on, Glacier!

With you so cool, we can chill out under the sun

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 25, 2009, 12:51:55 AM »

View on, Glacier!

With you so cool, we can chill out under the sun

GEC, i'd love to. it'd be cooler seeping the wine with one as enigmatic as you. lol.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #37 on:** February 25, 2009, 08:14:35 AM »

Sucking the sand - Government's thing
Sucking the view - Glacier's and Gec's thing

So to all suckers out there, let government suck

Amazing how a catchy word used in the title of this thread could change the meaning and perspective of things.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #38 on:** February 25, 2009, 09:22:57 AM »

kahadlok sa mga english ninjo gec, glace.

NOSEBLEED!!!

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apothecary · « **Reply #39 on:** February 25, 2009, 11:21:38 AM »

Ako bitaw untang word nga gamiton kay siphoning sand. Hadlok lang kog naay motalibagbag, himoon nyang

siphoning sip-on.

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