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SK sa Bohol useless
« on: July 14, 2007, 01:15:40 PM »
opinyon lang na ko ni, mga higalA.
Osik-osik kwarta ato gobyerno ana SK - SK. Uli ko amo - ila programa og project puro lng disko - disko.
Kinsa SK chairman sa Bohol karon diay? Aduna bay mga programa natabang sa ato probinsya?

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2007, 12:44:20 PM »
dba diay na sila tuta sa kapitan? heheh but some places hinuon sa atoa kay naa man sad hinoon sila natabang, like improvement sa ilang basketball court, koral, ug uban pa... pero most of the time, they just follow unsa sulti sa kapitan.

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2007, 01:42:13 PM »
i beg to disagree. kinahanglan ang SK oy. tan-awa ra gud nangmga official nga wala moagi og SK, magpataka intawon. mailhan baya nimo ang naay experience kay sa wala.

it's mandated sa atong constitution pud ang SK. ang kabataan ay hindi lamang pag-asa ng bayan kundi ang maaasahan ng bayan.

mao bitaw dapat iguide sila sa mga dagko na..when diay magstart ang usa ka lider? siyempre, sa SK jud.



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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2007, 02:11:58 PM »
maybe you're right (udtohan), pero ang nakadaut man gud pud kay gitudloan nila sa pagsukod ug ka-Corrupt (im not saying nga tanan ha) dli kalikayan nga mamalit sila ug vote at the very start sa ilang paglansar.

basin hinuon pud magdepende sa lugar... nothing against SK.  ;D

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2007, 05:31:21 PM »
Mike, I totally disagree that SK is “way hinungdan”.

The budget allocated for SK is nothing compared to the budget of the town. So, don’t consider the budget as substantial. SK is made to develop the youth, the future leaders of our society to be responsible citizens. It is an interactive training ground for young guys to learn on how to handle life & reality. Life is good and evil mixed together, and if they choose a bad leader, it is not a failure, but a good lesson. Successful people learned from their own mistake. Life pushes you around, some will give up and some will fight and continue.

What will happen to our future society if all our leaders are un-trained and inexperienced in life? What is happening now in the real world is that everything is blamed on young people because they lack representation; they have no voice in the society.

You can see in the news like young people robbed a store, young people went on a shooting spree, young people caught on a drugs… this happens because there are very few young people in the media today. This includes Mike a young/brilliant journalist…hehehe. Nobody is there in the media who represents and defends young people and that’s why all the blames are focused on young people. How about the politicians, the teachers, the parents, who should be responsible for all these chaos? The media is not speaking a word against them… its unfair for the young people…

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2007, 07:56:55 PM »
Macky,

Based on my experience and observation, SK has been used as a training ground for corrupt practices.

Many Filipino pundits have been calling for its abolition.

I was an SK chairman but I resigned after a year. Dili na nako matulon ang korakot nga akong nakita within the barangay council lang mismo.

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2007, 08:44:44 PM »
Mike, as I've said, anything that might happen is in the hands of the elected chairman and the ones who elected him. If the youth elected a bad leader, its not the end of everything, but a lesson to be learned by all. Corruption will only prosper if one tolerates.

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2007, 08:46:02 PM »
Basin, Mack.

Anyhow, Edmund Burke said: "Evil triumphs because good men do nothing."

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2007, 04:37:51 AM »
There is a purpose why some people turn out to become bad leaders: To strenthen the mettle of good leaders.

There is a lesson why some good leaders turn bad: Relying solely on human virtues will not help to maintain one's innocence in a worldly environment.

And this is what I've learned: Sometimes things turn bad so people can rediscover the goodness within them.


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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2007, 02:17:39 PM »
diha ka mike...sa inyong lugar tingali kurakot. but as far as i know, sa SK Province wala man na. wala gani budget sa  mga project. so, magsolicit lang mi sa mga private sponsor.

wala na jud hope ang mga batan-on. hehehe

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2007, 07:57:33 AM »
Ang uban sigurong Sk sa ubang baryo naay nangahimo, pero sa amoa wala man to sa una.. Ambot lang kaha karon kung naana ba, pero wala man lang gihapon koy nabalitaan nga naay nangahimo ang SK..

Sk councilor ko sa una pero amo chairman wala may pakabana, wala mankoy nahinumduman nga naa mi nahimong projekt, kay sa ako sab nga nahimunduman, ka-2 ra jud tawon mi nagsession.. Nagpaabot ra pud gud ko adto pud kung unsay mga plano masabutan, kay wala man lagi koy alamag.. Hantud nalang nilangyaw ko..

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2007, 01:02:30 PM »
I dont think its useless i was an SK Chairman before and i accomplished some projects for our barangay and everytime mo uli ko sa amoa naa gihapon siya gabarog..it benefits the whole barangay especially sa youths...

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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2007, 10:45:06 PM »
There is a purpose why some people turn out to become bad leaders: To strenthen the mettle of good leaders.

There is a lesson why some good leaders turn bad: Relying solely on human virtues will not help to maintain one's innocence in a worldly environment.

And this is what I've learned: Sometimes things turn bad so people can rediscover the goodness within them.


To be a better Jedi, you must learn the power of the dark side

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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2007, 06:52:03 AM »
There is a purpose why some people turn out to become bad leaders: To strenthen the mettle of good leaders.

There is a lesson why some good leaders turn bad: Relying solely on human virtues will not help to maintain one's innocence in a worldly environment.

And this is what I've learned: Sometimes things turn bad so people can rediscover the goodness within them.


Good leaders become "bad" because of the desire to gain or maintain power. Men lust over the ability to control others and manifest their will unto the masses---

Power is the nectar of the Gods---and so is auspiciously desired by men. It is inevetible that good men turn bad--there are no "good" men. As the lust of power, greed for control of economics, politics and glorification of oneself is a universal opiate of the masses.  The only reason why some "good" men failed into manifesting into tyrrants is because fate cut them down before they could take advantage of their situation. And isnt it amazing that these so called "bad" men legitimize their actions as being 'benefactory for the state and people"--partial that may be--yet there is the inner lust for personal glory. The need to immortalize oneself---to be remembered---and power--is the means of divination.

History claims witness to this: Gaius Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Maximilien Robespierre, Franklin Theodore Roosevelt, Ferdinand E. Marcos, Francissco Franco, Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Jiang Jie Xi, Tojo Hideki etc.



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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2007, 06:57:37 AM »
There is a purpose why some people turn out to become bad leaders: To strenthen the mettle of good leaders.

There is a lesson why some good leaders turn bad: Relying solely on human virtues will not help to maintain one's innocence in a worldly environment.

And this is what I've learned: Sometimes things turn bad so people can rediscover the goodness within them.


Is that so? Perhaps...just perhaps..the reason why good men become 'bad' is because of the weakness of the masses? Perhaps...men who become bad men via taking absolutist control of the people and state deserve to be in power--because of the inert idiocy of the people to allow themselves to be made slaves? (I'm playing devil's advocate btw, i dont actually hold these views) What say you?

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2007, 07:07:28 AM »
speaking of SK, ting-register naman diay pud karon no, ugma daw taman ang registration.

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2007, 08:45:08 PM »
Good leaders become "bad" because of the desire to gain or maintain power. Men lust over the ability to control others and manifest their will unto the masses---

Power is the nectar of the Gods---and so is auspiciously desired by men. It is inevetible that good men turn bad--there are no "good" men. As the lust of power, greed for control of economics, politics and glorification of oneself is a universal opiate of the masses.  The only reason why some "good" men failed into manifesting into tyrrants is because fate cut them down before they could take advantage of their situation. And isnt it amazing that these so called "bad" men legitimize their actions as being 'benefactory for the state and people"--partial that may be--yet there is the inner lust for personal glory. The need to immortalize oneself---to be remembered---and power--is the means of divination.

History claims witness to this: Gaius Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Maximilien Robespierre, Franklin Theodore Roosevelt, Ferdinand E. Marcos, Francissco Franco, Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Jiang Jie Xi, Tojo Hideki etc.



You forgot to mention Darth Vader....

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2007, 01:45:58 AM »

SK is not useless.

SK is a venue for training and development, a venue for self-expression and empowerment; and a long lists of positive outlook.

SK would not be a breeding ground for graft and corruption if every youth and citizen in the community have the proper value orientation, have the initiative to inculcate / impart good deeds and most have the sense of accountability / responsibility to his own self and to the environment where they live.

For one, I am a living manifestation of the noble effort initially introduced during the Marcos regime, the Kabataang Barangay (KB) which is the present SK. ( was the pioneering mover, recipient and beneficiary being a KB Chairman then to a municipal KB Federated President then actively assuming the Provincial KB Secretary duties during Mr. German Guidaden's KB presidency ).

KB / SK had totally honed my leadership abilities, equipped the emotional intelligence side of me rather than heavily relying / excelling in academics or keeping a high IQ ( was a government scholar ).  Such had been instrumental and/or paved me to learn the ethics and gains of interpersonal relationships, going places, elevating my standard of living and above all succeed in my aspirations - making dreams a reality.

Talking on output or projects, one must consider that there are constraints confronting every movement and success in general.  These could be unavailability or scarcity of resources ( could it be financial, manpower, skills and time element ) regulatory restrictions, statutory requirements and so on.  But the world should not end there.  One must take the lead, explore and venture the unknown rather than being complacent of the spoonfeeding attitude.  Could it be big or small, the bottom line, we must make a contribution to make a difference in other's lives.

The KB / SK of yesterday had bred today dignified men and women from entrepreneurs to public officials (from town mayors to congress halls, academe), attorneys-at-law, consultants, and leaders in government and non-government entities.

Should there be corrupt men out of SK, one must be vigilang and must take part in fighting for what is righteous rather than taking tolerance which in the end others idolized them as role models.  It is through your sensitiveness to preach the good side of SK and say to the youth that this is right for them.

It is depressing to note that people only see the negative side of this grand government's program.  Why dwell pessimistic?

I have this feeling that Tubag Bohol has the gigantic mission of shaping beautiful minds for productive endeavors mutually rewarding to all.  And should only few agents of positive change exist, I would pray that these few men would multiply and be infectious to the rest.

May this message enlightens to the uncertainties of where their hearts are for SK.

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2007, 03:47:17 PM »
ehmmm its sad SK election specially our place.. parang local election den gubot pa sa lokot..  

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Re: SK sa Bohol useless
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2007, 09:49:12 PM »
bitaw no, mamalit pud ug boto

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