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The latest RH Bill plenary debate has enlightened millions of Filipinos as the Honorable Senator Juan Ponce Enrile labeled the act of masturbation as a form of abortion. Enrile says it comes from his belief as a Roman Catholic.

The Roman Catholic Church and CBCP views masturbation as “an act that constitutes a moral disorder and absolutely and without any excuse, a seriously disordered act”. It has the same category as bestiality and sodomy.

At the Senate RH Bill plenary, Enrile has said that…

“And the question that bothers me is… Is the sperm alive? Is the ovum of the woman alive? I have consulted doctors and the answer is yes.

The sperm of a man cannot fertilize any egg, not the egg of a whale, or a lizard, or a bird, or a fish, but only the egg of a woman. And neither can the egg of a woman be fertilized by any other sperm except the sperm of a man, so that these two elements must be together to create life. But each one of them has life. There is no question about that because they have mobility: They move; they develop.”

And with this statement, Sen. Pia Cayetano a co-author of the Senate’s version of the Bill, gave a hypothetical scenario where a man ejaculates outside the woman’s vagina, here are the excerpts.

SEN. PIA CAYETANO: “So, if a man and a woman are sleeping together as husband and wife and a man avails of the withdrawal method and ejaculates outside the vagina of a woman, that is ‘interference’ in the same way a condom would be, because the man and the woman decided not to allow the egg and the sperm to meet, is that his Honor’s position?”

SEN. JUAN PONCE ENRILE: “Well, if the man wants to satisfy himself by manipulating himself alone, if it is only for pleasure, then it interferes with the production of life. That is my belief. That is a matter of faith to me.”

Senator Enrile believes that the sperm is a living entity and that ejaculating it outside a vagina is a form of abortion and that a sperm’s purpose is only for pro-creation and not for pleasure. Faith is important for Senator Juan Ponce Enrile and it is important for the Filipino Roman Catholics. But should faith interfere with the laws of a secular government or not?, Should all the rules and basis of morality of the Catholic Church be included in the Philippine Constitution?

Is belief really an acceptable argument in an intellectual discourse? or should religion be well represented in the government? None of us will know until the RH Bill has come to a vote... or will it?


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A senator using his "Faith" and "Belief" in pushing against a proposed "LAW" where everyone doesn't belong to a single Religion. Clearly a product of a man experiencing ANDROPAUSE?

That is his belief, and that is a matter of faith for him. It is the same as when the original fathers of the Philippine Revolution swore under the name of God to rid the country of foreign oppression. At the time, most of the revolutionistas practiced in the belief of a God. Is Enrile wrong for exercising his right to faith, to which, I am sure, a significant percentage of the Philippine population subscribes to ?

Quote from: Lorenzo on October 18, 2011, 11:33:54 PM
That is his belief, and that is a matter of faith for him. It is the same as when the original fathers of the Philippine Revolution swore under the name of God to rid the country of foreign oppression. At the time, most of the revolutionistas practiced in the belief of a God. Is Enrile wrong for exercising his right to faith, to which, I am sure, a significant percentage of the Philippine population subscribes to ?

so if that is his belief and I think you agree with him. would you agree with me that most, may be all of the male population in this country should go to jail because of abortion.

should our lawmakers not be partisan in making laws. not all people living in our country are Catholic. I am a catholic but I don't think it's right.

Enrile is making an impassioned plea about his opposition to the RH Bill. It will be part of his legacy as a statesman as one who is not afraid to speak his mind. Do I think he will enact a bill for all men who masturbate to go to jail? lol, c'mon. Let's be realistic now. This is just part of a congressional dialogue.


Cheers.

 Do I think he will enact a bill for all men who masturbate to go to jail? It's a very senseless idea, masturbation is a part of mans life.

basin ug natiguwang na lang na si enrile waka gyud kasuway ug masturbate..

Basin di na mogahi ang iyaha, nasuya lang...

Quote from: sumbohan on October 18, 2011, 01:46:22 PM
Is belief really an acceptable argument in an intellectual discourse? or should religion be well represented in the government? None of us will know until the RH Bill has come to a vote... or will it?

what else, then?  one can't argue or discuss one's side of an issue if one didn't believe in it.  we may or may not agree with such side, but one has to believe in something and make a stand for it, whether that belief is religious, political, or even self-directed.

Quote from: hubag bohol on October 24, 2011, 03:55:59 PM
Basin di na mogahi ang iyaha, nasuya lang...

naunsa na man ni?  kalabad sad nimo uy, hubag.   

hahay,,maayo nang maghimo balaod na naay limit ang mahimong senador,,kay ang uban gi ango2x na,jamo na mahuna2x an maayo,,,ngano gd na hatagan man og dakong isyu na,,mas bog at pang corruption ani,,,,,

Quote from: islander on October 31, 2011, 10:07:22 PM
naunsa na man ni?  kalabad sad nimo uy, hubag.   

Permi man lang gud hubag, este, labad, ang akong ulo...

Quote from: vrglguapo on October 22, 2011, 10:17:36 AM
basin ug natiguwang na lang na si enrile waka gyud kasuway ug masturbate..

Bwahahahahahahahahahahah !!! Bogoya.

maayo pag mag huna2x og plano si enrile unsaon pag hurot ang abu sayaf og MILF,,para malinaw ta,,,