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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #100 on: November 04, 2009, 04:08:38 PM »
Priests are humans they have their sexuality, but they are priests since they are chosen and they undergo schooling on this matter plus they are spiritually guided. People also pray pray for them for added strength,
they should/must  walk the line.

Amen, Manay Tess.
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« Reply #101 on: November 04, 2009, 05:13:19 PM »
Hi Lorenzo,

You're right. In fact, the same study states that "this 2 to 5% figure is consistent with male clergy from other religious traditions and is lower than the general adult male population that is best estimated to be closer to 8%."

I am not saying that the 2 to 5% robed miscreants represent the Catholic Church, or churches of other religious traditions for that matter, any more than the 8% male perverts in the general population represent the male population--including you and me.

My point is simply that one sexually abused child is one too many. And this study indicates that 3,000 priests have engaged in sexual relations with minors. So how many minors do you imagine have been abused already?

Sorry, I have not read of any recommendations and stance of the Tagbilaran Diocese yet. This thread should be closed if the Bishop gives a satisfactory clarification on the matter.

2-5 % is a small minority compared to the 95-98% that are innocent of these crimes.

That 2-5% who have allowed their sins to take the best of them do not and will not represent the Roman Catholic Church. The minority does not represent the majority.

The Roman Catholic Church reprimands the priests that have committed such transgressions. So that it will not impede in ministering the Word of God to the faithful.
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I think the recommendations and stance of the Tagbilaran Diocese is quite respectable, and stands in compliance with the Roman Catholic Church Dioceses around the world.

I stand with our priests.
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« Reply #102 on: November 04, 2009, 05:25:29 PM »

My point is simply that one sexually abused child is one too many.

Ergo, "the 2 to 5% robed miscreants" represent an incalculable myriad.

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« Reply #103 on: November 04, 2009, 05:57:55 PM »
Who is in the position to ask the Bishop in Bohol regarding this matter? Koddi, doy palihug or Mike.

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« Reply #104 on: November 04, 2009, 09:03:41 PM »
My question is: Do the Diocese of Tagbilaran is aware of his criminal past?
First of all homosexual priest/child molester will always be remove because of the danger to the children and scandal to community. The only reason WE HAVE THOSE CHILD MOLESTER  PRIEST TODAY is because the homosexual bishop and other homosexual priest cover up and promote them.
As far as judgement  of course we are to judge. Wrong is wrong. What if you saw someone was been rape.Do you just watch it and said Well who Am I to judge. We are called to judged everyday. The bible verse is stating that if we are judging other we need to realize that we are being judge. Meaning we better not pointing fingers to others if we are committing worst sin. In the interest of charity towards our children we are obliges to point out child molester in our midst.

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« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2009, 11:13:45 PM »
kanang uban di man ka feel kay wa man sila pay anak, nga gi abused. Way balatian. Ako wa man sad koy anak nga gi abused pero what about those who were? and what about those parents who got hurt so much?

sigi lang tang YAMA-YAMA ani basi sa atong nabaw-an sa articles ug asa pa! yam yam!!! wala man ta mag puterya sa tanan nga pari ani, kay there are lots and lots of priest who are really genuine, we were talking about that Skelton. Something has to be done here. Pero preha sa question ni Manay, HOW?

Or Should we just let this things go and move on? to each his own? matud pa ni Hubag, sigi nalang tag tutok sa langit ani nga di nalang ta magpakabana sa stong surroundings ug unsa nay nanghitabo???



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« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2009, 12:19:47 AM »
My question is: Do the Diocese of Tagbilaran is aware of his criminal past?
First of all homosexual priest/child molester will always be remove because of the danger to the children and scandal to community. The only reason WE HAVE THOSE CHILD MOLESTER  PRIEST TODAY is because the homosexual bishop and other homosexual priest cover up and promote them.

Day Quel, the article states that Catholic officials in Detroit have informed the Tagbilaran Diocese about the criminal history of Skelton. It appears that this info was communicated before the ordination. At this point, it is going too far to accuse the senior heirarchy of covering up Skelton's offense because they themselves are guilty of the same offense. But the Bishop should definitely answer for the consequences of his decision.

As far as judgement  of course we are to judge. Wrong is wrong. What if you saw someone was been rape.Do you just watch it and said Well who Am I to judge.

This is exactly my point.  If this is a case of adultery, or sexual pecadillo between two consenting adults, quote me a verse and I'll join you in prayer, because even Jesus said we who lust in our minds are guilty of the same. But sexual abuse of minors is a criminal offense! From the personal feedbacks I received about Skelton, it seems the Tagbilaran diocese really has a lot of explaining to do.

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« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2009, 05:05:49 AM »
kanang uban di man ka feel kay wa man sila pay anak, nga gi abused. Way balatian. Ako wa man sad koy anak nga gi abused pero what about those who were? and what about those parents who got hurt so much?

Dili lalim ang kahingawa nga bation sa usa ka ginikanan kabahin sa iyang anak. During the wayward days of my youth I could not understand why my mother would stay up all night to wait for me to be home. Niadtong panahona hapit kada gabii ko mabuntagan. I felt that nothing untoward could happen to me. Obviously, my mother felt otherwise.

You can call me dense, or insensitive, but the roles had to be reversed and I had to be a parent myself to understand--by which I mean not just comprehend intellectually, but respond as a human being, with mind and heart, taking in the full weight of anxiety and dread of the thought of harm happening to someone you love, someone you saw grow up under your care and protection.

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« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2009, 07:48:57 AM »
kanang uban di man ka feel kay wa man sila pay anak, nga gi abused. Way balatian. Ako wa man sad koy anak nga gi abused pero what about those who were? and what about those parents who got hurt so much?

Bitaw Belle, mga bata ra ba have a very unquestioning attitude towards authority. Luoy kung pahimuslan ang ilang pagkainosente sa tawo nga ilang gitahod. Naa ko'y amigo nga 42 na ug naa'y tulo ka anak. Pero ug maglingaw-lingaw mi usahay ug red wine, ipagawas niya ang iyang self-revulsion sa gihimo sa iya sa usa ka pari kadtong nagsakristan pa siya sa iyang kabatan-on. I know of other similar cases of sexual abuse by the clergy nga naa'y long lasting pyscho-emotional damage sa pagkawo sa biktima.

wala man ta mag puterya sa tanan nga pari ani, kay there are lots and lots of priest who are really genuine, we were talking about that Skelton. Something has to be done here. Pero preha sa question ni Manay, HOW?

Si Skelton ra bitaw atong gihisgutan diri.  The statistics I mentioned only generalize the trends within a study sample, but do not stereotype any particular group of people or religion.


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« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2009, 08:15:33 AM »
During the wayward days of my youth...

Matud pa ni flag-master Sabina, motipas lang man daw gihapon ka Bay... ;D

You can call me dense, or insensitive, but the roles had to be reversed and I had to be a parent myself to understand--by which I mean not just comprehend intellectually, but respond as a human being, with mind and heart, taking in the full weight of anxiety and dread of the thought of harm happening to someone you love, someone you saw grow up under your care and protection.

Usahay bitaw, maka-realize ko that I may have out-parented my parents by worrying too much about the kids. But it's liberating to see them grow wings on their own, unfettered by domestic rules, ug hangtud ron wa pa man hinuon ko tagaig sakit sa ulo. That it was my habit to walk them to school as kids here has really made them open up to me about their self-discoveries. Even when two of them are already teens, the kids tell me who their crushes are, and what their picks and piques are about the opposite sex.

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« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2009, 08:27:32 AM »
Bitaw Belle, mga bata ra ba have a very unquestioning attitude towards authority. Luoy kung pahimuslan ang ilang pagkainosente sa tawo nga ilang gitahod. Naa ko'y amigo nga 42 na ug naa'y tulo ka anak. Pero ug maglingaw-lingaw mi usahay ug red wine, ipagawas niya ang iyang self-revulsion sa gihimo sa iya sa usa ka pari kadtong nagsakristan pa siya sa iyang kabatan-on. I know of other similar cases of sexual abuse by the clergy nga naa'y long lasting pyscho-emotional damage sa pagkawo sa biktima.

Maayo gani ning imong amigo, Bay Ben, kay nakabaton og normal life in spite of his harrowing experience. Indeed, the elements of abuse of authority and hypocrisy make the experience of the victim even more unbearable.

Ang nakasamot og kamakahahadlok aning kaso nga atong gihisgotan karon kay ang targetted victims naa sa awkward age when they are still discovering their sexuality. They are ripe for the loss of sexual innocence, only to be initiated in such a vile and sickening way.

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« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2009, 08:44:17 AM »
Matud pa ni flag-master Sabina, motipas lang man daw gihapon ka Bay... ;D

He he, no comment. After waxing nostalgic about the past, I guess I may be allowed to be prudent about the present. ;D

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« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2009, 10:43:42 AM »
He he, no comment. After waxing nostalgic about the past, I guess I may be allowed to be prudent about the present. ;D

Bay Hubs, normal ra man tingali ang "youthful indiscretions." And dili normal "indiscretions with the youth."

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« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2009, 12:45:46 PM »
Bay Hubs, normal ra man tingali ang "youthful indiscretions." And dili normal "indiscretions with the youth."

Sakto. However, in the case at bar, it takes the kindest euphemism to refer to subject's acts as "indiscretions". And in the Philippine context, such "indiscretions with the youth" are even more repugnant when the perpetrator is one of the "2 to 5% robed miscreants".

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #114 on: November 07, 2009, 12:06:53 AM »
This Skeleton news, aw, Skelton diay
is just bukog ra sa ubang binuhatan sa
mga paring wala magtuman sa ilang
Covenant with God.

Kon sa manicure pa, ingrown ra ni
nga balita oy. Kon maghimo lang tag
listahan sa mga pari nga angay unta
tangtangan sa ilang sotana, daghan
kaayo bisag asa. Apil na sa atoa.

Pero hilis lang ang ngipon sa simbahan
bahin niini. Usa ka rason, sa daghang
mga rason, mao nga kulang kaayo tag
mga pari nga moserbisyo.

Ug ang simbahan na ang kabalo sa
ubang mga rasones niini. This is Side A.

Side B, is that, may paglaom pa.
Korek si Misty nga posible nagbag-o
na si Skelton. Ug aron mahinaykan
niya ang pagbag-o, nagpalayo siya
sa Amerika.

Mao nga kinahanglan jod nga ubanan
nato ang kaparian sa ilang mission
nga pag-evangelize sa Ginoo. Kay
kon pasagdan nato sila, maluya, ug
matintal ni Taning.

Luoy kaayo ang kinabuhi sa pari.
Nindot pa sa bag-o pa. Tinood na.
Mao nga kitang mga Members of The
Laity needs to be active in church
para ganahan pod atong pari sa pagpa
dagan sa iyang kinabuhing diosnon.

Ang pari kinahanglan intawon sa atong
attention isip kaabag nila sa pagpalambo
sa atong pagtoo. We need to sustain
our bonding with them, duha man ang
sangpotan, we will grow spiritually by
the priest's guidance ug they will grow
also as sheperd of God.

We will pray for our priests and bishops.
We must be attached to them, to the
programs of the church. We must have
a symbiotic relationship with our priests
and bishops spiritually, morally & socially.

May God be praised !!!

Let us all forward in Christ !!!

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« Reply #115 on: November 07, 2009, 12:51:46 AM »
re: Side B, is that, may paglaom pa.
Korek si Misty nga posible nagbag-o
na si Skelton. Ug aron mahinaykan
niya ang pagbag-o, nagpalayo siya
sa Amerika.

ang mga phedophiles all over the world mohawa jud sila sa ilang nasud kay gi did-an naman na sila. Ang uban gani di man kagalakaw pila ka miles away sa ilang mga balay. Mao nga modagsang sila sa third world kay didto sa third world wa may mo reklamo. and FYI  NOT all phedophiles are homos.

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« Reply #116 on: November 07, 2009, 01:31:42 AM »
Ang kadaot pud aning pedophiles/sex offender bisan pa moingon sila ug nagbag o na pero mogawas jud ilang inner demon basta ma expose permi sa mga bata.Himoon na ramang rason moadto sa third world country kay kabalo man sila naa silay power and privilege nga wa pa sila gi stripped sa ilang uban rights didto.Diri sa U.S di sila pwede bisan 100 ft.nalang sa playground,sa school, sa mga establishment nga naay bata. Di pud sila ka ekyas kay required ni sila mo register sa national database sa mga sex offender.
Murag mo think twice siguro si Fr. Skelton ug magbuhat siya sa ingon sa atua kay bisan pa way mo pyait unya ang physical evidence unya. Known raba ning Afircan decent ug dako hahahah.
Mao jud ni dapat kahadlukan ang mga pedophiles kay moguba ni sila sa kaugmaon sa mga bata. Kining Homo di dapat kahadlukan kay gani mobuild pa ni sila ug future tan awa pila kaha nahuman uban laki ug college kay gigastuhan ug b***t.At least ang b***t mobayad manghatag pag cellphone heheheh pero ang pedo kuyaw ni sila.

kanta ni dedicate nako sa mga Homosexual nga buotan.

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« Reply #117 on: November 07, 2009, 05:32:35 AM »
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« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2009, 04:19:04 PM »
The Philippine Bishops need to act on this. This has nothing to do with judgement of Father. I'm sure Fr. Skelton may have done great things in his work there, but he shouldn't be left in public ministry dealing with kids. They've supposedly known there since 2003. It would have been FAR WISER to quietly retire him from public duty long before now.

The US Bishops made this exact mistake dealing with priests in years past. They hoped if they prayed hard enough, maybe the priest had changed and wouldn't do it again. Much of the time, the priests re-offended doing TERRIBLE DAMAGE to the credibility of the Church.

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« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2009, 04:46:38 PM »
The Philippine Bishops need to act on this. This has nothing to do with judgement of Father. I'm sure Fr. Skelton may have done great things in his work there, but he shouldn't be left in public ministry dealing with kids. They've supposedly known there since 2003. It would have been FAR WISER to quietly retire him from public duty long before now.

The US Bishops made this exact mistake dealing with priests in years past. They hoped if they prayed hard enough, maybe the priest had changed and wouldn't do it again. Much of the time, the priests re-offended doing TERRIBLE DAMAGE to the credibility of the Church.

Indeed. I guess that from the hindsight of a litany of sad experiences, the Church should, in this case, decide to err on the side of caution.

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« Reply #120 on: November 09, 2009, 05:53:31 PM »
It would have been FAR WISER to quietly retire him from public duty long before now.

Dear Mabuhay, you must have known how and why a priest is ordained before posting this kind of  statement.

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« Reply #121 on: November 09, 2009, 06:12:48 PM »
hofelina, look at the last 30 years in the American church for a history lesson on what can happen

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« Reply #122 on: November 09, 2009, 06:24:01 PM »
The language from the Detroit Diocese is pretty strongly worded, no ambiguity (http://www.aodonline.org/AODOnline/News%20%20%20Publications%202203/Press%20Releases%202303/2009%2016871/091026Regarding%20Snap.htm):

Several years ago, the archdiocese became aware of Skelton's ordination as a Catholic priest in the Taglibaran diocese in the Philippines. Not consulted prior to the ordination, the Detroit archdiocese has since contacted the bishop of Taglibaran, to whom Skelton reports, regarding the priest's criminal history in Michigan. In summary, Joseph Skelton does not minister here nor would he be welcome or permitted to function as a priest in this archdiocese.

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« Reply #123 on: November 09, 2009, 06:46:46 PM »
It would have been FAR WISER to quietly retire him from public duty long before now.
I agree. Putting him in public ministry where He constantly  around with young boys is like playing fire with fire.

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« Reply #124 on: November 09, 2009, 09:49:09 PM »
There is a very tenuous line between a person who seeks a renewed life in a new environment and a plain and simple criminal fugitive disguised in holy garb.

I agree with Bay Hubs that if the Church wants to take a risk, it should decide to err on the side of caution.

The language from the Detroit Diocese is pretty strongly worded, no ambiguity (http://www.aodonline.org/AODOnline/News%20%20%20Publications%202203/Press%20Releases%202303/2009%2016871/091026Regarding%20Snap.htm):

Several years ago, the archdiocese became aware of Skelton's ordination as a Catholic priest in the Taglibaran diocese in the Philippines. Not consulted prior to the ordination, the Detroit archdiocese has since contacted the bishop of Taglibaran, to whom Skelton reports, regarding the priest's criminal history in Michigan. In summary, Joseph Skelton does not minister here nor would he be welcome or permitted to function as a priest in this archdiocese.

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« Reply #125 on: November 11, 2009, 02:16:46 AM »
Bahin sa akong giingon nga "open secret" na kini diri sa Bohol, this means nga current and ongoing pa. And allegedly he is not the only one. And then kadtong dili lang sex-related, mostly about father fathers, with from bata pa hangtud college students na ang mga anak. Currenly adunay kaso ang usa ka pari nga na assign sa western Bohol who reportedly lumped all church collections with separate bank accounts (special projects, devotional boxes, permits and fees, mass collections) into his personal account. Hangtud karon wala pay action and Diocese bisan kon iya ning gubuhat shortly after his installation in his new parish last June 2009.   

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« Reply #126 on: November 11, 2009, 02:20:45 AM »
Kadtong alleged pedo nga padi kanunay kunong makit-an mosulod sa mga sleazy sinehan sa Cebu to solicit for a quick whatever. Current pud ni.   

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« Reply #127 on: November 11, 2009, 03:34:14 AM »
Bahin sa akong giingon nga "open secret" na kini diri sa Bohol, this means nga current and ongoing pa. And allegedly he is not the only one. And then kadtong dili lang sex-related, mostly about father fathers, with from bata pa hangtud college students na ang mga anak. Currenly adunay kaso ang usa ka pari nga na assign sa western Bohol who reportedly lumped all church collections with separate bank accounts (special projects, devotional boxes, permits and fees, mass collections) into his personal account. Hangtud karon wala pay action and Diocese bisan kon iya ning gubuhat shortly after his installation in his new parish last June 2009.   


Ako no? ok ra jud ko ug ang pari naay anak sa gawas. Kay laki gud na! i really dont care. Syempre ila man jud na buhion kay ila man na anak. Pero kana lang mga pedo murag di jud ko maka dawat ana nga naa sa mga kabataang barangay nag lider-lider. Traumatic man gud na sha. Kanang mga kabataan nga  ning agi ana nga klase nga abuse, bisan tuod unconciously they think it didnt affect them pero makita man na sa behavior nila pagka dako nga ning agi ana. It really could affect his personality.

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« Reply #129 on: November 11, 2009, 04:53:07 AM »
naa koy kaila nga pari, suod kaayo namo. tulo jud iyang anak ug college students naman gani ang 2.

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« Reply #130 on: November 11, 2009, 02:10:11 PM »
Kadtong alleged pedo nga padi kanunay kunong makit-an mosulod sa mga sleazy sinehan sa Cebu to solicit for a quick whatever. Current pud ni.   

Unja ang isuhol, koleksyon sa simbahan. Paet.  :P

Easy come, easy go. (Pwede pud kaha easy come, easy come?)

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« Reply #131 on: November 11, 2009, 08:51:23 PM »
Kadtong alleged pedo nga padi kanunay kunong makit-an mosulod sa mga sleazy sinehan sa Cebu to solicit for a quick whatever. Current pud ni.   
Tan awa lagi di jud ni siya mausob kay once a pedo always a pedo. Mokatow jud ning uwag ani unya ang kapait kay sa pagkakaron naa pa siyay ikasuhol mao adto siya sa layo maghasik nang lagim aw di diay maghasik nang lagim manghatag ra diay ug collection sa simbahan hehhehe.

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« Reply #132 on: November 11, 2009, 10:10:40 PM »
Asa na man ning Amerkanong Pari karon?
Naghawid ba siyag parokya sa Bohol?
Wala bay gihimo ang Obispo sa Archdiocese of Bohol?
.... kay nagpadayon pa man kaha kini
ug pamusgay sa mga inosenteng bata diha?
Kauli lang ko diha, pangitaon ko na siya ug sumbagon.

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« Reply #133 on: November 11, 2009, 11:37:53 PM »
fr. joseph s. w. skelton, jr. is the parochial vicar of saint vincent ferrer parish of calape. im just wondering why it took sometime for detroit clergies to notice him. he went back to the US together with the singing priest of bohol to do a series concerts for the fund raising they made for the standardization of salary of the priests in bohol.

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« Reply #134 on: November 11, 2009, 11:41:18 PM »
Asa na man ning Amerkanong Pari karon?

Naa sa Calape Gwagz duol na raman sa Loon.

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« Reply #135 on: November 12, 2009, 02:21:58 AM »
he went back to the US together with the singing priest of bohol to do a series concerts for the fund raising they made for the standardization of salary of the priests in bohol.


was not noticed of course with the singing priests, not the singing kids. kay ug singing kids pa to di na sha kabalik sa Bohol...

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« Reply #136 on: November 12, 2009, 04:10:49 AM »
The Singing Priests of Tagbilaran (SPOT)

Origin: Tagbilaran City, Bohol, Philippines

Genres: Religious, Pop, Jazz

Years active: 1998 – Present

Labels: DartPro, LLC

Associated acts: Chorus Paulinus, Singing Priests of San Francisco

Website: Singing Priests of Tagbilaran

Members, 2003:

Arnold Zamora
Melchisedech E. Monreal
Irvin B. Garsuta
Justino H. Estoque, Jr.
Bonifacio G. Espeleta, Jr.
Jeffrey P. Malanog
Joseph Swanee Skelton, Jr.
 
Former members, 1998:  

Arnold Zamora
Melchisedech E. Monreal
Justino H. Estoque, Jr.
Bonifacio G. Espeleta, Jr.
Jeffrey P. Malanog
Petronilo "Jun" Ligtas, Jr.
 
The Singing Priests of Tagbilaran or SPOT is a group of Catholic priests from Bohol, Philippines. In addition to preaching sermons they also evangelize from the stage in songs and dances.

The Singing Priests of Tagbilaran were formed in 1998 by Paring Bol-anon Fathers Arnold Zamora, Melchisedech "Edick" E. Monreal, Justino "Loy" H. Estoque, Jr., Bonifacio "Boy" G. Espeleta, Jr., Jeffrey "Oloy" P. Malanog and Petronilo "Jun" Ligtas, Jr.

In 2003, the group was composed of Fathers Arnold Zamora, Melchisedech "Edick" E. Monreal, Irvin B. Garsuta, Justino "Loy" H. Estoque, Jr., Bonifacio "Boy" G. Espeleta, Jr., Jeffrey "Oloy" P. Malanog, Joseph Swanee Skelton, Jr., and pianist, Mr. Joseph D. Namoc.

The Singing Priests of Tagbilaran are all graduates of the Immaculate Heart of Mary Seminary. The members come from different graduating classes and age groups, but all received their musical training from the same seminary.[citation needed]

With the common desire to share their talents along with their philosophy of joy, prayer and fun, they bonded together to form a singing group called SPOT (Singing Priests of Tagbilaran). The group is also named SPOTlight since they seek to bear "the light of Christ" to the world.

In the Philippines, SPOT has performed in many concerts. They were the main attraction in the diocesan production, HIUSATLO (three acting in unison). They staged a solo concert, Valentine's SPOTlight, at the Bohol Tropics Resort in February, 1998.

In the summer of 1998, they gave concerts for religious causes in the United States. They performed in many cities in California including San Francisco, South San Francisco, San Jose, Stockton, Los Angeles, Redwood City, Foster City, Santa Maria and Vallejo. They also performed in Seattle, WA and Las Vegas, NV. The proceeds from these series of benefit concerts in the United States was used as the seed money of the priests' standard living allowance, a monthly standard salary for priests in Bohol, Philippines.

Their debut album entitlled Singing Priests of Tagbilaran, contains a repertoire of religious and popular songs in English, Tagalog and Cebuano. This album also highlights the works of Father Arnold Zamora, the group's musical arranger and accompanist. This compilation of songs portrays the universal message of love and peace. The blending of their voices characterizes human emotions of joy, hope, sorrow and understanding.

In 2003, the second batch of SPOT did concerts in San Francisco, California, Fairfield, California, Sacramento, CA, Stockton, CA, Houston, Texas, Chicago, Illinois, Orlando, Florida, Miami, Florida, West Palm Beach, Florida, and Los Angeles, California. Proceeds from the benefit were for the retired and sickly priests of the Diocese of Tagbilaran, Bohol. In addition, the proceeds were used for the health plan of the clergy.

Fr. Eugene D. Tungol, Pastor of the Epiphany Church in San Francisco, California was a major catalyst [citation needed] in all of SPOT's concerts in the U.S.

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« Reply #137 on: November 12, 2009, 04:17:22 AM »
Nia man ning mga ngalan sa ijang mga singing colleagues. Unsa kahay ilang ikasulti bahin ani nija, no? Dili tingali sila angay maghilom-hilom.

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« Reply #138 on: November 12, 2009, 05:22:47 AM »
dili naman kaayo ni sila active gud karon. pero sure jud nga magkita na sila everytime magmeeting sila.

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« Reply #139 on: November 28, 2009, 01:05:07 AM »
Naay laing group of Boholano singing priests. Upat ra ni sila, apil si Fr. Garsuta. Naka release ni sila og bag-ong CD, gipamaligya sa Diocese of Talibon. Morag taga Diocese of Talibon ni sila tanan kay di man ko familiar nila, even Fr. Garsuta, nga cousin man unta sa akong bro-in-law.

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« Reply #140 on: November 28, 2009, 07:10:48 AM »
Mas importante ron si Bishop Medroso ang pangutan-on kung unsay lihok iyang gibuhat, kay siya ma'y naa'y tulubagon sa tanang pari sa diocese. Murag wala may pangusog gikan sa publiko aron maghatag ug pahayag ang tinahod nga obispo.

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« Reply #141 on: November 28, 2009, 03:03:12 PM »
pagkalisud ang kinabuhi sa mga pari labi na ug gwapuhun kay daghang
mga tsikas nga magpabirig birig, inig simba pagka domingo adtu jud sila
mopahaluna sa unahan para mapansin ni priest.

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« Reply #142 on: December 08, 2009, 10:04:01 AM »
Surprisingly, given this news, his views are rather at the conservative end of the Catholic spectrum.  Latin masses, no gay marriage etc.
He's nice guy from my experiences meeting and talking with him.  

Edit: I'll get on the pulpit about conservatism.  This morning I noticed that a woman was ordered to leave Baclayon Cathedral because she had a spaghetti top.  It's a hot country, and why should we be prudish, ashamed of our bodies?  For the Church to cover up the buggery of boys and yet publicly admonish tropical clothing tells me that sexuality is a big problem for that organisation.

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« Reply #143 on: December 08, 2009, 10:12:28 AM »
From my experience of meeting Father Joseph Skelton, he is a nice person.

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« Reply #144 on: December 08, 2009, 02:02:09 PM »
From my experience of meeting Father Joseph Skelton, he is a nice person.


pilay edad nimo Tig??? wahahahhaha! jawk.

bitaw oi they (predators) are all extremely nice! wa ka kabalo ana Tigs?

mao na ilang front...

mao bitaw to akong thread sa una di na ko kadumdom, nga who really SATAN is?

Kay si Satan is very nice ang good looking guy. dili nang inyung gina illustrate nga naay sungay ug maut.

Kay ug si Satan maut pa kaayo wa jud ma allure ana nija.

Got what i mean?? PIPOL???

So ayaw dayun mo padala to people who are EXTREMELY nice kay naa sad uban ana nila who has very dark SPIRIT.

I have so many examples pero di nalang ko mag tell kay ma shock unja ang uban!

 ;)  ;)  ;)

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« Reply #145 on: December 10, 2009, 11:06:05 PM »
I am surprised that this writer of this news article did not present a fair side from Father Skeleton?

Father Skeleton anytime when I have had an opportunity to run into him has always been a very polite and well mannered priest that shows his kind personality very well.

I was actually shocked when I had heard about this through a friend who comes from one of the same media club's as I do.

He asked me my opinion and i said that I was not aware of Skeleton having any dark pasts, and then this friend of mine said in a very polite way "We have not called the USA to really confirm this action or not"  I honestly did not have any ideal what he was talking about as I have not been keeping up on the news due to moving this past months.

I see Fr. Joseph Skeleton as a really well loved and welcomed priest here. When we have conversations he sounds very educated and conservative he also comes across as very conservative and never has a bad word to say about anyone.

He has a weekly radio program over KISS FM every Sunday and is always encouraging people to do well by God and Christ and keeps reminding his listeners to always have love in their hearts.

I am a lady and when we do talk to one another he is always making sure he is at a distance from me but he listens and replies back very educated sounding.

I honestly appreciate what he has done for people here.

I do not even think that this has been confirmed yet? We are not to judge we should be about encouraging ourselves and others to do they're best in life.

I wish Fr. Skeleton to come out of this clean forgiven and unhurt both physically and mentally.

Molester, or a Pedophile does not fit the type of person that he is being talked about.

Thank You for your time.

 

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« Reply #146 on: December 10, 2009, 11:57:38 PM »
Romans 3:23, "For All have fallen from the Glory of God."

Everyone sins, everyone has blasphemed before the Lord. Everyone is imperfect before the Perfect Eyes of Divine Providence. All we can do is to treat others with respect.

In regards to Fr. Skelton, he continues to be in our prayers.

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« Reply #147 on: December 11, 2009, 03:32:04 PM »

pilay edad nimo Tig??? wahahahhaha! jawk.

bitaw oi they (predators) are all extremely nice! wa ka kabalo ana Tigs?

mao na ilang front...

mao bitaw to akong thread sa una di na ko kadumdom, nga who really SATAN is?

Kay si Satan is very nice ang good looking guy. dili nang inyung gina illustrate nga naay sungay ug maut.

Kay ug si Satan maut pa kaayo wa jud ma allure ana nija.

Got what i mean?? PIPOL???

So ayaw dayun mo padala to people who are EXTREMELY nice kay naa sad uban ana nila who has very dark SPIRIT.

I have so many examples pero di nalang ko mag tell kay ma shock unja ang uban!

 ;)  ;)  ;)

Wahahahahahaha. Nkatawa ko aning imong post Te. Well, anyway tiguwang na ko, 23 anyos na intawon ko.

Mao pud bitaw ni nga magtakuban lagi kono ning manghimuay ug katalagman.

Watch you step mang kaha lagi kay slippery floor man. :D

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« Reply #148 on: December 12, 2009, 06:17:54 AM »
nahimo naman nuong father skeleton. hahahaha.

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« Reply #149 on: December 12, 2009, 06:57:47 AM »
an excerpt of a BBC article about the Pope´s reaction to clergy´s pedophile abuse (relevant to this thread)

"He wishes once more to express his profound regret at the actions of some members of the clergy who have betrayed their solemn promises to God, as well as the trust placed in them by the victims and their families, and by society at large."

The Pope summoned the Primate of All Ireland, Cardinal Sean Brady, to Rome after the Vatican was criticised for failing to respond to the Murphy inquiry.


  The Holy See takes very seriously the central issues raised by the Report, including questions concerning the governance of local Church leaders with ultimate responsibility for the pastoral care of children.


The Holy Father intends to address a Pastoral Letter to the faithful of Ireland in which he will clearly indicate the initiatives that are to be taken in response to the situation.



Finally, His Holiness encourages all those who have dedicated their lives in generous service to children to persevere in their good works in imitation of Christ the Good Shepherd.

The Murphy report, which was published two weeks ago, laid bare a culture of concealment within the Dublin archdiocese and found that four consecutive archbishops prioritised the church's reputation above the welfare of children who were being physically and sexually abused.

Instead, paedophile priests were moved from parish to parish, free to repeat their actions on new victims.

Immediately after the publication, Cardinal Brady said he was "deeply sorry and ashamed" at the abuse of children described in the report.



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« Reply #150 on: December 14, 2009, 06:55:50 AM »
whaha³ nag dobli naman cguro ako panan-aw
ky pagbasa nako, wat comes to my mind? ang pari nga kalabira
mibahakhak kog katawa unja midoul akong mga bwesita ug gidakol ko diwe
gipabalik ug read nyahaha³ - huuh sowe kaajo

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« Reply #151 on: December 14, 2009, 11:06:00 AM »
whaha³ nag dobli naman cguro ako panan-aw
ky pagbasa nako, wat comes to my mind? ang pari nga kalabira
mibahakhak kog katawa unja midoul akong mga bwesita ug gidakol ko diwe
gipabalik ug read nyahaha³ - huuh sowe kaajo


Sus Blew daghan na ta halap ani oi! hahahah!

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« Reply #152 on: December 14, 2009, 09:08:31 PM »

Sus Blew daghan na ta halap ani oi! hahahah!

unja unZaon man na nga ka klarex ana kang Precious nga post -Father Skeleton nyahaha³

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« Reply #153 on: December 15, 2009, 11:07:39 AM »
unja unZaon man na nga ka klarex ana kang Precious nga post -Father Skeleton nyahaha³

bitaw haskang katawa nako ana! hahahaha!

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« Reply #154 on: February 02, 2010, 09:26:23 PM »
Wahahahahahaha. Nkatawa ko aning imong post Te. Well, anyway tiguwang na ko, 23 anyos na intawon ko.

Mao pud bitaw ni nga magtakuban lagi kono ning manghimuay ug katalagman.

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« Reply #155 on: July 24, 2010, 10:51:48 PM »
sus wa jud q nasayop!  daghan q mga friend frm dauis nga nasuki na nia.ma nlang kuno pang bawn...tsk tsk

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« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2010, 02:34:29 AM »
mao bitaw wa ko magpare gaw hahaha. muzta!


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« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2010, 08:32:01 AM »
sus wa jud q nasayop!  daghan q mga friend frm dauis nga nasuki na nia.ma nlang kuno pang bawn...tsk tsk

Hala, active pa diay kaayo?  Di ba reformed na kuno? :o

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« Reply #158 on: July 26, 2010, 01:16:19 AM »
sa pag tuo cguro nato nga nausab na. sa ingon nato nagpalayo na xa sa US para mag bag o. pru d ta ka siguro sa iya mind kai once na GAy always jud na xa GAY.. karun tua na xa sa calape kinsa pd nasayod nga wa xa nag kalat didto?hinuon naa rman cguro sa tagb. iya mga suki. labi na ssa  dauis nga dugay xa didto. mas daghan jud xa suki mga batan on. matinga nlang q gaybiing daku mag parking man c father sa BQ sakay sa iya Vitara car...murag nag atang ug laki muduol niya...ug na motor pa iya gsakyan mura xa habal2x naghuwat ug pasahiro...tsk tsk c FR. jud badlungon...

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« Reply #159 on: July 26, 2010, 08:36:21 AM »
matinga nlang q gaybiing daku mag parking man c father sa BQ sakay sa iya Vitara car...murag nag atang ug laki muduol niya...ug na motor pa iya gsakyan mura xa habal2x naghuwat ug pasahiro...tsk tsk c FR. jud badlungon...

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« Reply #160 on: July 26, 2010, 06:12:22 PM »
Pastilan ang kalibutan karon...napuno na sa mga makasa-sala!  :( Obispo, Pari ug kinsa pa diha?). Aw...hinoun ang silot sa konsensya aning mga tawhana...hinaut nga unta maoy makapausab sa ilang pagka-masalaypon. Kinahanglan unta nga tangtangon sila dayon sa ilang mga serbisyo labina tong mga "Phedophilia"!  >:( Bitayon, tuwaron, huktan ang itlog! Excuse n forgive me Lord! Am also a sinner! Mag-ampo na lang ta deritso sa Ginoo!

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« Reply #161 on: July 26, 2010, 07:02:18 PM »
>:( Bitayon, tuwaron, huktan ang itlog!

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« Reply #162 on: July 26, 2010, 07:07:21 PM »
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« Reply #163 on: July 26, 2010, 07:35:53 PM »
sa laing bahin...

sa ato, kahibawo baya ta nga usahay malagmit ang wati himoong halas ug ang tiki mahimong buaya tungod sa istorya; ang atong naistorya ug nahasalagmag kuyog sa usa ka eskina, pag-abot sa sunod nga eskina oyab na nimo, sa sunod pa gyod nga eskina mabdos na kuno ka.  grabe mopakapin ug istorya sa ato ug kun wa ko masayop kitang tanan nabiktima ani some time in our lives.

that's why i would rather think well of a person, whether he's a priest or not, unless the accusations are proven beyond reasonable doubt in the proper court.  this is what makes our world a civilized one.  we cannot condemn anyone with mere suspicions or grapevine whispers and end up making someone's life miserable.

the guy may truly have changed for the better that's why he opted to go somewhere far away to start life anew.  we owe it to each other to give ourselves a chance at redemption, otherwise, what is the virtue of hope for (the absence of which is also called 'sin against the holy spirit' in catholicism) if we let go of the belief that every person is redeemable?

lastly, let's talk of empathy.  how would we feel if we committed some grave mistake and be condemned for it forever despite our contrition and sincere resolve never to commit the same mistake again?


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« Reply #164 on: July 26, 2010, 08:06:30 PM »
how would we feel if we committed some grave mistake and be condemned for it forever despite our contrition and sincere resolve never to commit the same mistake again?





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« Reply #165 on: July 26, 2010, 08:25:36 PM »
Pili lang mo aning duha:








 :P

para aza man na? ::)

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« Reply #167 on: July 26, 2010, 08:59:20 PM »



oh, i understand.  you would feel like a handsome puppy, bai hubs.  great.  at least that's way better than a pious frog.

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« Reply #168 on: July 26, 2010, 09:03:29 PM »
oh, i understand.  you would feel like a handsome puppy, bai hubs.  great.  at least that's way better than a pious frog.

You really think so? Maybe you just forgot our little baby boy froggy?

Just to remind you...





;D

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« Reply #169 on: July 26, 2010, 09:17:47 PM »
You really think so? Maybe you just forgot our little baby boy froggy?

Just to remind you...





;D

owwww, what a way to be reminded.  this pic is one of my all-time favorites.  a real cutie frog, a pious one at that.  di gyod ko mosukol ani.  kun pikatay lang, pildi na ko daan.  tan-awa ra god iyang mata. mora ko anig si mayweather nga daghang pasumangil aron lang di makatagbo ni honorable congressman pacquiao... 

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« Reply #170 on: July 26, 2010, 09:39:19 PM »



Oh,i thought U wud feel more likely a very² cuti-kitty? ::)

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« Reply #171 on: July 26, 2010, 10:04:25 PM »
You really think so? Maybe you just forgot our little baby boy froggy?

Just to remind you...





;D

The praying frog! hehehehe  :D Fr. Skeleton`s action?   :-\




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« Reply #172 on: July 26, 2010, 10:06:31 PM »



and/or....the guilty puppy?  ;D  Fr. Skeleton`s amendment of contrition  :-[

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« Reply #173 on: July 27, 2010, 12:12:37 PM »
You really think so? Maybe you just forgot our little baby boy froggy?

Just to remind you...





;D

i miss him aw that diay! hahahhahaha!

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« Reply #174 on: July 27, 2010, 12:19:53 PM »
I really wonder what action the Tagbilaran bishop has taken, given the worldwide attention Fr. Skelton's case has received. I hope that he is not just waiting for the uproar to die down, like so many other cases of clergy abuse. Private contrition is one thing, public accountability is another. We are not even asking the good bishop to disrobe the priest without due process. We are just asking him to tell us what he has done since he learned of Fr. Skelton's conviction, and why he has decided to keep Skelton in his post.

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« Reply #175 on: July 27, 2010, 02:32:35 PM »
It is so sad nga ug naa gani pari mang sexually abuse instead silotan ibalhin man nuon ug laing parokya. If Jesus is here today He would be tossing many of the priest on streets as he did with the money changers. He might be calling the money changers back to have money to pay for the lawsuits.Very sad pero maingon jud ning punga.

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« Reply #176 on: August 03, 2010, 01:55:02 AM »
wa man nmu g apil si sister niangay rba pd na ug pari.....

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« Reply #177 on: August 04, 2010, 03:02:22 AM »
Normal man ning mga madre ug pari nga ma crush sa usag usa kay tawo ra intawon pud ni sila dili superhuman. Ang dili normal ang pari nga mang molest ug gagmay nga bata mao nay sicko.

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« Reply #178 on: August 04, 2010, 07:18:47 AM »
Fr. Skeltons' skeletons?  ;D  ;D  ;D

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« Reply #179 on: August 04, 2010, 07:19:34 AM »
Fr. Skeltons' skeletons?  ;D  ;D  ;D

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