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Bohol priest has skeletons in his closet
The Manila Standard Today

CATHOLIC officials in Detroit claimed they have contacted the Tagbilaran diocese and have made officials there aware of the “criminal history” of the former lay brother who is now a priest in Bohol.

Ned McGrath, Director of Communications for the Archdiocese of Detroit, claimed in a statement published at its Website that they only became recently aware of the ordination of Joseph Skelton Jr. as a priest in Tagbilaran.

He said they were not consulted prior to the ordination but “the Detroit archdiocese has since contacted the bishop of Taglibaran, to whom Skelton reports, regarding the priest’s criminal history in Michigan.”

The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, in a statement published by several Detroit-area newspapers, said people should have been warned that Skelton had once studied at a Catholic seminary in Plymouth, and pleaded guilty to sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy in his seminary room. He had resigned from the seminary in 1988.

“And this month, a settlement was reached involving allegations that Skelton was involved in the abuse of a 14-year-old boy in Washington, D.C., in 1984, according to attorneys Jessica Arbour and Adam Horowitz,” the Detroit Times reported.

SNAP president Barbara Blaine told newspapers that a letter sent in 2003 warning of Skelton’s history was not enough and that Church officials should do much more. “Kids are safer and the Church is healthier when the truth is exposed.”

But the Detroit archdiocese said in a statement that Skelton had been dismissed from the St. John Provincial Seminary after being accused of sexual misconduct. “Not unlike any other institution of higher learning, the archdiocesan seminary does not track or hold responsibility for every student who ever attended classes but left before ordination.”

Blaine said people should have been warned and wants Catholic leaders to post such allegations on Catholic Web sites and have priests announce publicly names of clergy with accusations of past abuse who are transferred to their dioceses.

Skelton, in his Website, was identified as an accomplished “Praise and Worship Leader and Singer in the Philippines.” The Website said Skelton has joined several recording projects here and in the US and has performed in concerts here.

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 07:52:38 AM »
Having just recently viewed many of Joseph Skelton Jr.'s performances uploaded on Youtube, this was really a big shock. God is infinite in his mercy, and may have already reformed and transformed this singing priest. But given the proven tendency of sex offenders to relapse, Bohol authorities should take heed of this warning.

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 02:57:39 PM »
People in Bohol should observe him but he should not be judge right away. Malay din natin nag change na siya because God change him.Sometimes it's very hard for a person to change sa iyang own place kay ang mga tao mo husga jud even ga tarong na siya dili siya hatagan ug room to change but in order pod to shade light,e observe siya ug transformation ba jud nahitabo sa iya life or pretentions lang.

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 03:03:15 PM »
God is an ocean of Mercy. But Mistyeyed is right, what if he has changed and rededicated his life to serve Him?
It is also a common practice here in Germany to trace the whereabouts of juvenile offenders to keep watch of their movements.

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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 03:13:32 PM »
Day misty,

Kung tinuod nga nabag-o ang tawo, dili man tingali ikauwaw ang pagdawat niya sa mga kasal-anan nga nahimo sa una isip pamatuod sa paglihok sa Diyos sa iyang kinabuhi.

Many former philanderers, drug addicts, rapists, yakuzas, and other criminals who have found light in God's grace stand tall to testify of his mercy without negating their past or misrepresenting their personal history. Ang hadlok man gud, daghan kaayo mga batan-on sa music teams sa mga simbahan diha's ato, Katoliko man o Protestante, nga posibleng naa sa sphere of influence aning paria. I know of victims of sexual abuse of the clergy who are still struggling to make head or tail of their lives long after the abuse has happened.

People in Bohol should observe him but he should not be judge right away. Malay din natin nag change na siya because God change him.Sometimes it's very hard for a person to change sa iyang own place kay ang mga tao mo husga jud even ga tarong na siya dili siya hatagan ug room to change but in order pod to shade light,e observe siya ug transformation ba jud nahitabo sa iya life or pretentions lang.

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 03:14:28 PM »
The two cases mentioned in the article, one with a guilty plea and the other one settled out of court, seem to indicate a well-defined scope of obsessive behavior. This information could prove useful.

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 03:19:38 PM »
The Pope acknowledges the sins of the pedophiles among the seculars of the catholic church. He tried to rectify the error by asking forgiveness to the victims and also paying a huge amount to pay the damages but the true damage will never be repaired.

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 03:34:15 PM »
Day misty,

Kung tinuod nga nabag-o ang tawo, dili man tingali ikauwaw ang pagdawat niya sa mga kasal-anan nga nahimo sa una isip pamatuod sa paglihok sa Diyos sa iyang kinabuhi.

Many former philanderers, drug addicts, rapists, yakuzas, and other criminals who have found light in God's grace stand tall to testify of his mercy without negating their past or misrepresenting their personal history. Ang hadlok man gud, daghan kaayo mga batan-on sa music teams sa mga simbahan diha's ato, Katoliko man o Protestante, nga posibleng naa sa sphere of influence aning paria. I know of victims of sexual abuse of the clergy who are still struggling to make head or tail of their lives even after so many years.



Yap,sakto ka Mster Ben.Dili angay ikaulaw but there are, not all have the same guts or not all have strong self esteem or not all people can understand na dili ta mag judge.Pareha gud na usahay nato diba ug masuko ta usahay mas maayo man nga mo adto kas daplin sa dagat mag pahungaw kisa naa raka sa inyong balay kay basin mo buto unya ka. also people who prefer to go out far just to breath kay sa ilang place lagi di man siya hatagan ug room to change.Naay uban gusto mo serve na ni God but sa ilang place but dili sila hatagan ug chance maong mo adto nalang sa layo but sa mga cases nga ing-ani nga naay sexual records in the past,of course e observ jud ni sila ug na transformed ba but dili dayon e judge. Catholics or non catholics ug bag-ohon sa Ginoo ma bag-o jud but the person must cooperate sa gift of mercy na gihatag ni God kay naa may enemy who doesn't want us to serve God.Ang pangutana ani karon : Gitago ba niya ang iyang past? Basin iya na ni gi confess sa ubang pari unya wa lang pod ma informed ang iyang gigikanan.I think, revealing who you are before you accepted christ, naay timing ana ug anus-a nimo e share nga mahimong sumbanan sa uban nga ma glorify si God.Ang ang ug magpataka kag yawit,mahadlok ang uban.But sa giingon ko na,aron ma clear, e observe ni siya ug tawgon sa kinsay na assign niya ug pahibalo-on nga mao ni ang feedback ug unsay iyang ikasulti.

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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 03:36:50 PM »
It behooves Bishop Leonardo Medroso to issue a statement on Fr. Skelton's case. Sex offenders who are released after serving sentence or paroled, and have undergone reformative therapy, are barred from work that gets them in touch with those who are profiled as likely victims. This priest has been soliciting invitation from churches and schools around the country, especially among the youth, to join in his praise and worship ministry.

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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2009, 03:39:36 PM »
I know of victims of sexual abuse of the clergy who are still struggling to make head or tail of their lives long after the abuse has happened.

Tinuod na sexual abuse is not a joke ug frustrating ni sa part of the victim and their family but the question now,naa bay nag totok sa na abuse to let go of the hatred and forgive the offender as God wants us to do para magkaroon ug inner freedom ang na abuse diba.

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2009, 03:39:51 PM »
Di ba dugay-dugay na man ni si Fr. Skelton diha sa Bohol, Bay Ben?

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2009, 03:45:34 PM »
It behooves Bishop Leonardo Medroso to issue a statement on Fr. Skelton's case.

-It is true aron pod ma aware ang nag manage anang paria aron siya ma obserbaran ug ga tarong na ba jud. Tinuod baya pod nang naay lapses kay lagi tao ra man ta so kung unsa man gani,responsibility ni sa nag handle ani nga pari to check and encourage him to do good.

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2009, 03:46:10 PM »
Di ba dugay-dugay na man ni si Fr. Skelton diha sa Bohol, Bay Ben?


Niwang siguro ni Toy no kay Skeleton naman. ;D

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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2009, 03:49:07 PM »
A question;

assuming you are a parent whose kids are actively working with Fr Skelton, having heared of his past just lately, how would you react?

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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2009, 03:53:21 PM »
Di ba dugay-dugay na man ni si Fr. Skelton diha sa Bohol, Bay Ben?

Wala kaayo ko'y personal nga kasinatian ni Fr. Skelton except through his website in which he describes himself as follows. It seems to me there is a yawning gap in his personal account of his life, especially that part after leaving Detroit. I just accidentally came across him on Youtube about a month ago as I was surfing for gospel songs, and I was really impressed by his musical gift. I am really let down by this news. But as Paul said, God uses people who are like earthen jars in their frailty to manifest His glory. I had just hoped he was less disingenuous about his past, and the diocese had been more open in the interest of the youth.

About Fr. Joseph Skelton

Joseph Skelton

Fr. Joseph Skelton, Jr. is a missionary priest of theDiocese of Tagbilaran in the Province of Bohol, Philippines.

But he was born in the “Motor City” or “Motown” Detroit, Michigan, USA.

Fr. Joseph began following the Lord as a young boy at the age of seven.

He started singing professionally at the age of thirteen with the Michigan Opera Company, and then he went on to sing in many different groups with a variety of musical genres. Gospel Music has been an integral part of Fr. Joseph’s spirituality, putting into practice the old saying: He who sings once, prays twice!

One of the highlights of his life was being “baptized in the Holy Spirit” through which his enthusiasm for the Lord had increased by leaps and bounds even until today.

Fr. Skelton is an advocate of worshiping the Lord through any means. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the central form of worship he promotes but also promotes the Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament, devotional prayers, and Charismatic revival prayer meetings as well.

Praise and Worship is a type of prayer that involves the whole senses. Through the songs of Praise and Worship gatherings, the people of God can have an experiential encounter with the Living God.

Fr. Joseph regularly travels across the Philippines leading Praise & Worship sessions so that God’s people will receive a flood of blessings from the Lord.



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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2009, 03:54:11 PM »
A question;

assuming you are a parent whose kids are actively working with Fr Skelton, having heared of his past just lately, how would you react?

I'd say, not very different from the way Bay Ben is reacting.

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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2009, 03:55:16 PM »
"Better safe than sorry" would be on a parent's mind, I guess.

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2009, 04:02:15 PM »
Fr. Skelton is an advocate of worshiping the Lord through any means.

Through ANY means? Sorry for my unbelief, but flirty fishing and the whole sordid saga of the Children of God crossed my mind when I read this sentence.

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2009, 04:02:41 PM »
matud pa sa Smash FM, "Once a rocker always a rocker"...

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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2009, 04:04:51 PM »
A question;

assuming you are a parent whose kids are actively working with Fr Skelton, having heared of his past just lately, how would you react?


Ug ako,akong ingnon,anak kana si Father mao nay iyang past. Only God can transform a person. Atong e observe ug transformation ba ang nahitabo niya but we will not judge him right away.Follow the good things that Father did,but be vigilant also kay ang evil is powling like a lion waiting for somebody to devour.Ang atakehon sa kaaway are those duol kay God.Let us pray for father and pray for you anak for protection.

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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2009, 04:11:05 PM »
matud pa sa Smash FM, "Once a rocker always a rocker"...

Daghan man pung itlog nga magkurog aning imong manorya, Bay Bugs. (Sa English pa, eggs will rock, bwahaha.) ;D

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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2009, 04:14:37 PM »
Fr. Skelton is an advocate of worshiping the Lord through any means.-Ang ako ikasulti ani,gabinirahay ang camp of light and camp of dark sa iyaha.Ug mo try siya ug follow sa light hilaon siya aron madaug ang dark.

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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2009, 04:19:24 PM »
Fr. Skelton is an advocate of worshiping the Lord through any means.-Ang ako ikasulti ani,gabinirahay ang camp of light and camp of dark sa iyaha.Ug mo try siya ug follow sa light hilaon siya aron madaug ang dark.

Amgid-amgid diay sa Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. ;D

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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2009, 04:21:38 PM »
I met him 2 years ago during the fiesta of Booy church Our lady of Guadalupe. I was told that he is one of the few priests in Bohol who is devoted to Mama Mary. He seemed to be doing his priestly duties well.

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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2009, 04:22:42 PM »
Amgid-amgid diay sa Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. ;D



Hahahaha.Wa ko kaila ana nila.Basta Toy sa akong paghinuktok bahin sa kinabuhi duha ra. God wants us to follow the good and the evil wants us to follow the bad and since the evil doesn't want us to have peace in our hearts and follow God,he will find by all his means to put us down.But the good thing is,he will never win,because God will make us win.

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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2009, 04:32:31 PM »
Hahahaha.Wa ko kaila ana nila.Basta Toy sa akong paghinuktok bahin sa kinabuhi duha ra. God wants us to follow the good and the evil wants us to follow the bad and since the evil doesn't want us to have peace in our hearts and follow God,he will find by all his means to put us down.But the good thing is,he will never win,because God will make us win.

Ang problema lang usahay, in Good's process of winning, makadaug og ginagmay ang Bad, unja naay maangin nga inosente. Good may eventually triumph, but sometimes it leaves a trail of devastation. Luoy ang mapagan. Mao nga bentaha tong tuas lajo-lajo, far from the scene of action. ;D

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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2009, 06:24:31 PM »
this is old news.. i heard something about this years ago pa thru mga stand-by sa amoa...

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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2009, 12:29:47 AM »
Relatively "open secret" na man ni diri sa Bohol. Unya dili ra pud siya. Dili ra pud sex-related.

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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2009, 02:21:05 AM »
Relatively "open secret" na man ni diri sa Bohol. Unya dili ra pud siya. Dili ra pud sex-related.

unsa may boot pasabot aning last sentence, bay kodds? hehehe. daghan pa jud diay gawas pa ana?

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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2009, 04:30:04 AM »
Relatively "open secret" na man ni diri sa Bohol. Unya dili ra pud siya. Dili ra pud sex-related.

Ug dili ra pud past?

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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2009, 06:16:26 AM »
asa naman pod ta ani padong, bay hubs?  ;D

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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2009, 07:59:32 AM »
Ang present maoy akong gikabalak-an, Bay Glace. Unsa kahay nahibaw-an ni Bay Koddi bahin ani.

Who - nailhan na
What - nahibaw-an na
Where - Bohol
When - kini maoy klarohon, unsay tense (past, present, future)
How - para na lang ni sa mga investigators and confessors, he he



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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2009, 08:18:50 AM »
Ang present maoy akong gikabalak-an, Bay Glace. Unsa kahay nahibaw-an ni Bay Koddi bahin ani.

Who - nailhan na
What - nahibaw-an na
Where - Bohol
When - kini maoy klarohon, unsay tense (past, present, future)
How - para na lang ni sa mga investigators and confessors, he he


way back, e.g. 5 years ago, Koddis' present observation would be the future...today, it is now the present which may lead to another future...

in other words, until stories like this keep coming, it means it is still going on now and beyond.

this is only my opinion.

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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2009, 08:35:33 AM »
Well, sigi na lang ang act of telling the story, at whichever point in time ni gihimo. Ang pangutana kon ongoing ba ni nga panghitabo.

Klaro man gud and concern ni Bay Ben for eventualities. Whether such eventualites are indeed likely, there appears to be neither confirmation nor denial in Bay Koddi's rejoinder. Though inclusive and sweeping, safe jamo ang ijang comment. Jesuitic would be a good word for it. Peace, Bay Kodz! ;D

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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2009, 08:43:54 AM »
Given the uproar that sexual abuse by the clergy has generated in North America, leading to the purge of pedophiles and other sexual predators disguised in holy robes in the churches' sanctums, it's bewildering that no case has been prosecuted in our country, given the rampancy of these crimes as Anna and Koddi state here.

Mao tingali nga kaning mga tawhana nga wanted sa US diri mangdangan sa ato, ug magpadayon sa ilang mga madinaoton nga buhat. Tungod sa kapobrehon ang mga batang biktima sa ato musugot lang abutan ug pangbugas.

It's really disturbing when our attitude towards sexual abuse by the clergy is that of indifference, or wry acceptance of a heaven-ordained anomaly of social justice--given a passing mention only in drunken toasts of local tambays. We who are sober should call the local church leadership into account for this.

When Bishop Leonardo Medroso speaks on the Church-defined social moral issues such as reproductive health bill, his voice reverberates throughout the country from his unhampered platform on the pulpit. But when a social moral issue involving the church itself is raised, we only hear a defeaning silence.

this is old news.. i heard something about this years ago pa thru mga stand-by sa amoa...

Relatively "open secret" na man ni diri sa Bohol. Unya dili ra pud siya. Dili ra pud sex-related.

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« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2009, 08:44:03 AM »
Well, sigi na lang ang act of telling the story, at whichever point in time ni gihimo. Ang pangutana kon ongoing ba ni nga panghitabo.

Klaro man gud and concern ni Bay Ben for eventualities. Whether such eventualites are indeed likely, there appears to be neither confirmation nor denial in Bay Koddi's rejoinder. Though inclusive and sweeping, safe jamo ang ijang comment. Jesuitic would be a good word for it. Peace, Bay Kodz! ;D

is this news the latest update? kay naa may giingon diri si Anna&Jorge nga dugay na ning storyaha. mao na akong gipasabot sa 'stories', dili lang ba storya sa kanto, kundi storya nga undan kay basin naay nakakita ug naka-timaho nga gibuhat na pod. although, the news didn't elaborate. but it seems it has goaded the church authorities to investigate the issue.

very safe jud pagkasultia ni bay kods. pero ma-imagine nako iyang baba gangisi, hahaha.

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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2009, 08:51:42 AM »
Siyempre, kahibawo jud ni si Bay Koddi sa tinuod. Apil pa gani tingali ang sensational details, if any. ;D




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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2009, 09:11:59 AM »
Siyempre, kahibawo jud ni si Bay Koddi sa tinuod. Apil pa gani tingali ang sensational details, if any. ;D


naay libreng subscription aning mga detalyiha?...bitaw, di ra ba jud lalim ning balitaa. shocking jud. mas grage diri kay lately, obispo man jud. hahays

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« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2009, 09:43:20 AM »
Akong pamalandong man gud, Bay Hubs, tulubagon ni sa Tagbilaran Diocese nga gipahibawo na daan sa criminal history ni Skelton unya gipadayon pa gyud ang pag-ordain ug gitagaan pa siya'g ministry nga nagpahiduol aning tawhana sa mga batan-on nga mao'y profile sa iyang mga biktima.

Para naku, dakong kaipokritohan nga ang simbahan nga nanghibaba sa mga katungod sa mga kinabuhing wa pa nahimugso (batok sa reproductive health bill) ug fetal abortion (nga ako dakong supak usab) isilhig lang sa ilawom sa banig ang isyu aning sexual predation nga gihimo sa mga nakasotana nilang sakop sa mga buhi ug inosente kaayong batan-on.

Well, sigi na lang ang act of telling the story, at whichever point in time ni gihimo. Ang pangutana kon ongoing ba ni nga panghitabo.

Klaro man gud and concern ni Bay Ben for eventualities. Whether such eventualites are indeed likely, there appears to be neither confirmation nor denial in Bay Koddi's rejoinder. Though inclusive and sweeping, safe jamo ang ijang comment. Jesuitic would be a good word for it. Peace, Bay Kodz! ;D

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« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2009, 06:26:26 PM »
sexual predation nga gihimo sa mga nakasotana nilang sakop sa mga buhi ug inosente kaayong batan-on.

Mao kini ang kuyaw, youngters are exposed. We should find ways that he will not do it again, but how?

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« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2009, 07:49:38 AM »
how would you know nga ang kabatan-onan sa atoa di man mo sulti? I knew some kids my age before nga murag gina maintain sa pari but for us it was just like normal! we never thought it was an abuse, kay pari lagi and besides wa man sila ning reklamo kay hayahay man ilang kinabuhi sa kumbento with that priest! But you know what? daghan ra baja gihapon manimba. Murag di man na law-ay namo sa una!

Karon kani si Skelton di man nato mabaw-an sad kay wa may ning reklamo. Who would? mostly ang mga parents man ang mo reklamo unta ani? but none. Pwere lang sa mga maayo nga parents, some parents mao pa man gani mo push sa ilang anak closer to the clergy, kay hayahay gud.

Do you remember the recent movie ni  Meryl Streep nga DOUBT? tan-awa. Naay parent di jud mo reklamo ug makaayo para sa ija anak. Therefore sa atoa nga sitwasyon, do you think naay moreklamo? wala mao ning lungtad na si Skelton diha.

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« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2009, 08:43:18 AM »
Mao bitaw nga ang Pilipinas haven for pedophiles and sexual predators, kay poverty is the greatest accomplice of crime. Tinuod gyud ka Belle, poor families have traded the psychological and emotional well-being of their victimized children for the material benefits given by robed exploiters. Karaan pa man ni Padre Damaso ang abusong sekswal sa mga nakasotana. Sa Pilipinas, you cannot expect the poor victims to step forward and clamor for the Church's moral accountability on this issue--it's all about the 'do' and the 'dough'. But we can, and the media can. Ngano kahang hilom ang mga local papers nato ani nga issue?

how would you know nga ang kabatan-onan sa atoa di man mo sulti? I knew some kids my age before nga murag gina maintain sa pari but for us it was just like normal! we never thought it was an abuse, kay pari lagi and besides wa man sila ning reklamo kay hayahay man ilang kinabuhi sa kumbento with that priest! But you know what? daghan ra baja gihapon manimba. Murag di man na law-ay namo sa una!

Karon kani si Skelton di man nato mabaw-an sad kay wa may ning reklamo. Who would? mostly ang mga parents man ang mo reklamo unta ani? but none. Pwere lang sa mga maayo nga parents, some parents mao pa man gani mo push sa ilang anak closer to the clergy, kay hayahay gud.

Do you remember the recent movie ni  Meryl Streep nga DOUBT? tan-awa. Naay parent di jud mo reklamo ug makaayo para sa ija anak. Therefore sa atoa nga sitwasyon, do you think naay moreklamo? wala mao ning lungtad na si Skelton diha.

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« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2009, 08:43:28 AM »
Pwere lang sa mga maayo nga parents, some parents mao pa man gani mo push sa ilang anak closer to the clergy, kay hayahay gud.

Long ago nakadungog kog estorya nga ingon ani, from a close friend who would have no reason to invent such a sordid story. Diha kuno sijay auntie nga relihiyosa lagi kaajo, and ijang anak lalaki nga 12 anyos gipapujo sa kombento aron lagi kuno magdako duol sa Diyos. It turned out that the priest was a pervert, luoy kaajo ang bata kay magkadugo god kuno intawon. Kausa gitabang ang bata, gidala sa hospital. Ang bata siging hilak kay gustong mopauli. Gikasab-an man hinuon sa inahan nga wala motuo sa estorya sa ijang anak (ug sa uban pud nga nasajod sa kamatuoran), in spite of the boy's anal lacerations for which she, unthinkably, had her own explanations. Gipabalik jud ang bata dihang nakagawas na sa hospital. The rest is history--the boy grew up to perpetuate the cycle of abuse.   

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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2009, 09:00:24 AM »
Tinuod ka Bay Hubs, there are pyschological studies that profile sexual predators and abusers as victims of sexual abuse themselves. This crime spawns a vicious cycle.

No wonder that Jesus has always preached about love, forgiveness, and loving one's enemies, but his message of grace does not cover those who sin against the innocent ones.

Mark 9:42 "And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck."

I would like to believe that Jesus meant this as a metaphor and a hyperbole. But those who preach from the moral high ground of the pulpit should take this literally.

Long ago nakadungog kog estorya nga ingon ani, from a close friend who would have no reason to invent such a sordid story. Diha kuno sijay auntie nga relihiyosa lagi kaajo, and ijang anak lalaki nga 12 anyos gipapujo sa kombento aron lagi kuno magdako duol sa Diyos. It turned out that the priest was a pervert, luoy kaajo ang bata kay magkadugo god kuno intawon. Kausa gitabang ang bata, gidala sa hospital. Ang bata siging hilak kay gustong mopauli. Gikasab-an man hinuon sa inahan nga wala motuo sa estorya sa ijang anak (ug sa uban pud nga nasajod sa kamatuoran), in spite of the boy's anal lacerations for which she, unthinkably, had her own explanations. Gipabalik jud ang bata dihang nakagawas na sa hospital. The rest is history--the boy grew up to perpetuate the cycle of abuse.   

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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2009, 09:17:43 AM »
Ang samot nga makapahinuklog nako adtong estoryaha, Bay Ben, is the fact that the family was quite well-off. Dagkog amot ang pamilya para sa simbahan ug sa mismong pari. I coudn't fathom the depth of religious fanaticism of a mother nga nasobharan og tutok sa langit nga wala na hinuon magpakabana sa realidad. 

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« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2009, 12:45:47 PM »
We can trust the justice system of the U.S. If a U.S. court would find Skelton guilty as charged, he would be extradited to the U.S. But if he is innocent, Skelton can stay in the Philippines.

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« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2009, 12:46:19 PM »
Bitaw, dili nato sa ni ijudge kay basin ug nagbag-o diay na.

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« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2009, 12:52:13 PM »
I am touched to read that individuals are concerned about Brother Skelton, however, we should remember Romans 3:23

And remember that there is none of you that is without sin. For sure some of you have committed adultery, perjury, lying, covetting, even blaspheming before the Lord Your God.

So do not judge, that is up for the ETERNAL JUDGE. Christ Jesus who is LORD.

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« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2009, 12:55:54 PM »
Bitaw, dili nato sa ni ijudge kay basin ug nagbag-o diay na.

We must always remember, brother, to warn others of the act of Pharisaical tendencies.
None of us is righteous, none of us is worthy to be even considered pure of heart.
For there is only ONE who is righteous and it is The Eternal Living GOD.

Who would stone a brother who sins when the one who first throws the stone is himself guilty of sin?

Christ Jesus said, "The one who is born without sin can cast the first stone."

None is born without Sin , but Christ Jesus Himself.

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« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2009, 01:00:46 PM »
Matthew 7: 1-5,

“Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

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« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2009, 01:04:54 PM »
If Skelton asked repentance from Christ, then he is forgiven. Completely washed.

It is out of the hardness of men's hearts that look for the wrongs of every situation.

Skelton is a minister of Christ, and as a man born from sin, formed from sin, he will sin in his own time.

I am sure that with prayer and with faith and support he is handling his own past.

For no saint is without a bad past.



Blessed Paul who was once known as 'Saul' prior to his conversion was responsible for the persecution and death of Stephen, a martyr of Christ.

But Paul was touched by the Holy Spirit. He is a Doctor of the Church, and powerful in Biblical Ministry.

For God sees the weaknesses and looks into the depth of the heart.


Let us pray for Brother Skelton, to continue preaching, and to stay strong in his faith and in helping to build the faith of overs through his ministry of the Blessed Word.

Christ Preserve the Faith of the Faithful!

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« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2009, 01:08:36 PM »
We must always remember, brother, to warn others of the act of Pharisaical tendencies.
None of us is righteous, none of us is worthy to be even considered pure of heart.
For there is only ONE who is righteous and it is The Eternal Living GOD.

Who would stone a brother who sins when the one who first throws the stone is himself guilty of sin?

Christ Jesus said, "The one who is born without sin can cast the first stone."

None is born without Sin , but Christ Jesus Himself.

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Sakto ka Bro, kay kung sa unsang pamaagiha nimo gijudge ang uban, mao pud ni ang sukdanan nga gamiton Nija sa pagjudge nimo.

Basin pud ug nagbag-o na ni si Father Skelton. Kung nakasa sija sa mata sa atong hustisyang tawhanon, aw kinahanglan sijang silutan. Pero dili nato unhan ug judge kay dili ra ba ta judge.

Matud pang Melanie Marquez, "Dont judge my brother because my brother is not a book."

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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2009, 01:14:43 PM »
I do believe in TOTAL REMISSION OF SINS!

If we confess in our hearts to the Heart of Hearts--Jesus Christ who is LORD, then the sin is removed. Cleansed.

Romans 3:23 dictates to us that "FOR ALL HAVE FALLEN SHORT BEFORE THE GLORY OF GOD!"
That tells us that no one is greater than any other, for we are all sinners.
And as sinners, we are all worthy of death!
BUT! We have life eternal for those who accept SALVATION in JESUS CHRIST WHO IS LORD!


REPENT AND BE SAVED!
REPENT!

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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2009, 01:19:14 PM »
God gives mercy to a repentant sinner.

For a repetitive offender, this is another story.

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« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2009, 01:20:19 PM »
Let us Pray for strength to Brother Skelton.

And instead of condemnation, let us offer prayers on his behalf before the JUDGMENT SEAT OF JESUS CHRIST LORD.

Bless and in return we shall be blessed!



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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2009, 01:44:15 PM »
God gives mercy to a repentant sinner.

For a repetitive offender, this is another story.



KOREK!

kasagaran baja sa mga naka patay kay na corner or defense nag repent pero kaning klaseng offender sakit naman jud ni sa utok!

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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2009, 02:02:33 PM »


KOREK!

kasagaran baja sa mga naka patay kay na corner or defense nag repent pero kaning klaseng offender sakit naman jud ni sa utok!

Kining sakit sa utok, Ms, MDB, maajo unta kon kutob ras utok. Ang nakadaot kay momandar man ang utok sa ubang parte sa lawas!

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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2009, 02:08:48 PM »
Kining sakit sa utok, Ms, MDB, maajo unta kon kutob ras utok. Ang nakadaot kay momandar man ang utok sa ubang parte sa lawas!








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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2009, 02:10:39 PM »


Mao nay giingon Toy nga nanglagsik nga utok. ;D

Knowing you, Mist, morag utok sa lain nga ulo tingali imong buot ipasabot. ;D

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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2009, 02:16:42 PM »
Mao nay giingon Toy nga nanglagsik nga utok. ;D

Knowing you, Mist, morag utok sa lain nga ulo tingali imong buot ipasabot. ;D

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« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2009, 02:20:50 PM »
Knowing you, Mist, morag utok sa lain nga ulo tingali imong buot ipasabot. ;D



Hahaha,Toy,pinulongan ni sa amo.Nanglagsik nga utok.

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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2009, 02:20:58 PM »
sugod sugod nasad nig tipas ning duha ka nilalang..eng..eng..eng...bantay-bantay :D

Mura man ka ug admin Sabrina kay ug may motipas, mogawas dajun unja magpahinumdom nga mitipas na. Hehehehe.



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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2009, 02:21:44 PM »
sugod sugod nasad nig tipas ning duha ka nilalang..eng..eng..eng...bantay-bantay :D



Hahahaha.Oi, si Sabina ni lihok.Unsa may imong ikasulti ni Skeleton Inday.

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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2009, 02:22:31 PM »
God gives mercy to a repentant sinner.

For a repetitive offender, this is another story.

What if the repentant sinner and the repetitive sinner are one and the same? ;D

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« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2009, 02:22:44 PM »
Mura man ka ug admin Sabrina kay ug may motipas, mogawas dajun unja magpahinumdom nga mitipas na. Hehehehe.






Angayan ibutang sa admin..ato kaha ning ituboy padung sa admin.Duna ba kahay mo dawat niya? ;D ;D

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« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2009, 02:23:53 PM »
What if the repentant sinner and the repetitive sinner are one and the same? ;D



Mao nay giingon ug that is another side of the story. ;D ;D

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« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2009, 02:26:20 PM »


Mao nay giingon ug that is another side of the story. ;D ;D

Hahahahaha. Mao Te. Hahahahaha.

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« Reply #67 on: November 03, 2009, 02:26:47 PM »
What if the repentant sinner and the repetitive sinner are one and the same? ;D

Then by definition he is a repetitive sinner. Repetition negates repentance.

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« Reply #70 on: November 03, 2009, 02:30:58 PM »
sugod sugod nasad nig tipas ning duha ka nilalang..eng..eng..eng...bantay-bantay :D

Bwahaha. Proven right ko sa ahong strategy unsaon nga magpatim-aw si Sabs! Nice to see you, Sabs! Sigi, pwede nang mobalik na pud ka sa imong pagpahipi, Inday... ;D

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« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2009, 02:31:09 PM »
Then by definition he is a repetitive sinner. Repetition negates repentance.

Sakto ka Bay Bugs. Unja karon, unsa may atong conclusion sa statement nga:
“God gives mercy to a repentant sinner.
For a repetitive offender, this is another story”?


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« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2009, 02:37:14 PM »
Hahahahaha. Di ko makaimagine nila Abay Mike ana Te. Hehehehehe.



Hahahaha..esep esep jud..

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« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2009, 02:43:58 PM »
Bwahaha. Proven right ko sa ahong strategy unsaon nga magpatim-aw si Sabs! Nice to see you, Sabs! Sigi, pwede nang mobalik na pud ka sa imong pagpahipi, Inday... ;D






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« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2009, 02:44:51 PM »
Sakto ka Bay Bugs. Unja karon, unsa may atong conclusion sa statement nga:
“God gives mercy to a repentant sinner.
For a repetitive offender, this is another story”?


He he, sorry, Bay Tigs, I was simply discussing semantics, not theology. For the latter subject, please refer to evangelical firebrands around. ;D

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« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2009, 04:58:35 PM »
WE all have unspeakable sins. We all fall short of the glory of God. That is why it is not for anyone to judge another sinner.

Paul exemplifies God's transformative handiwork. He was not ashamed to confess his past and refer to himself as the "worst of all sinners", "rubbish" and "a pot of clay" because when he met Christ in a blinding flash, he was changed forever. Over the years, I have met in our church circles people who were formerly self-confessed drug addicts, philanderers, cons, pickpockets--what-have-you. Seeing how they have come to terms with an abject past by acknowledging the power of God's grace to change them,  I am mortified by my own sinfulness. Their gloriously changed lives convict me of my own unconfessed sins.

Our God is indeed a God of second chances. Far be it for me to judge Fr. Skelton. I have only two important practical concerns here:

1) The issue of Skelton's personal misrepresentation. Bishop Medroso should clarify if he was indeed informed of Skelton's criminal conviction in the US, but ordained him nonetheless because he has objectively assessed that Fr. Skelton has totally reformed through rehabilitative and counselling program. Did Skelton himself tell the bishop about his criminal history in the US? In a serious case like pedophilia, it is one thing for us to hope that a perpetrator change, it is another thing for the perpetrator himself to voluntarily subject himself to a professional reform program.

2) The issue of assigning him to a ministry or activity that puts him in contact with youngsters, who share the profile of victims of his previous repeat offenses. This is only common sense, and the Church should never relegate the welfare of the youth to second priority.  As a parent, I would rather be cautious than sorry for my children.

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« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2009, 07:21:58 PM »
Romans 3:23, 'For all have fallen short of the Glory of God."

We all are repeat offenders. We all sin, even after remission of sin. It is mandated after man's fall and due to Satan's rule in the world. Man is tempted to sin. And will always sin. As such we are all deservant of death and eternal perdition. It is said in Romans 6:23, "For the reward of sin is death, but the Gift of God is Life in Jesus Christ."

The meaning of this is that all will sin. Either it be sexual lust, which is a sin, lying, gossiping, perjury, commiting adultery, commiting murder, covetting, jealousy, anger, etc. All of these are sins. And non in this world is free from it.

And all are repetitious sinners. Repeat offenders.

It is not for us to Judge. For we are not God. Nor do we know how God thinks like or how he functions.
For it is said to us, folks,

""For my thoughts are not your thoughts. Nor are your ways My ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. "
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Remember that folks.

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« Reply #77 on: November 03, 2009, 07:24:27 PM »
I admire that Benne posted this link to warn others and put a voice of concern, however, I would like to remind others, only, not to judge quickly. Mercy and understanding, afterall, are tenents of Christian virtue. 


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« Reply #78 on: November 03, 2009, 11:56:03 PM »
Knowing you, Mist, morag utok sa lain nga ulo tingali imong buot ipasabot. ;D

sugod sugod nasad nig tipas ning duha ka nilalang..eng..eng..eng...bantay-bantay :D

hehehehe...gibantayan jud diay tawn.

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« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2009, 09:21:49 AM »
kining bahina wala man ta mojudge sa pari kinahanglan lang masiguro ta nga wala na na siya magbuhat dire sa ato sa iyang binuhatan didto sa amerika, HOY! kamong mga taga media nga amerkano/amerkana tingog mo kay inyo ning kababayan. siguroha gyod nga way paborpabor HA!

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« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2009, 09:31:14 AM »
hehehehe...gibantayan jud diay tawn.

Kini si Ms. Sabs maoy angay pabantayon sa angay bantayan, he he.

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #81 on: November 04, 2009, 09:40:55 AM »
Kini si Ms. Sabs maoy angay pabantayon sa angay bantayan, he he.

Quality ni nija Bay Hubs, mangokuy unja ug naa nay kinagod nga ibutang sa ijahang lungga, mogawas dajon ni.

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« Reply #82 on: November 04, 2009, 09:47:17 AM »
Kini si Ms. Sabs maoy angay pabantayon sa angay bantayan, he he.

maayo ni maoy pabantayon ni Skelton.

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #83 on: November 04, 2009, 12:29:22 PM »
kining bahina wala man ta mojudge sa pari kinahanglan lang masiguro ta nga wala na na siya magbuhat dire sa ato sa iyang binuhatan didto sa amerika, HOY! kamong mga taga media nga amerkano/amerkana tingog mo kay inyo ning kababayan. siguroha gyod nga way paborpabor HA!


Bitaw wala man ta mag judge ani tingali? gibasihan raman na iya record. Ngano man wa na sha mag sabwag diri aber? didto pa jud sa atoa?  (hala judge ba na?) hahahah!

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #84 on: November 04, 2009, 01:12:48 PM »
kining bahina wala man ta mojudge sa pari kinahanglan lang masiguro ta nga wala na na siya magbuhat dire sa ato sa iyang binuhatan didto sa amerika, HOY! kamong mga taga media nga amerkano/amerkana tingog mo kay inyo ning kababayan. siguroha gyod nga way paborpabor HA!

Bitaw wala man ta mag judge ani tingali? gibasihan raman na iya record. Ngano man wa na sha mag sabwag diri aber? didto pa jud sa atoa?  (hala judge ba na?) hahahah!

Bitaw, way nag-judge diri, oi. Naay nag-homily pa tingali. ;D

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« Reply #85 on: November 04, 2009, 01:52:17 PM »
Karon pa ko kabasa ani.Perti nako ka shock. Abi man nako ni si Fr. Skelton ug traditionalist ni kay naa jud sa Traditional Latin Mass Org iyang ngalan.Pero pagkakita nako sa youtube murag naglibog ko unsa ni siya heheheh.Hala naa raba ni sa Calape karon na assign.

Way nag judge diri so please sakto na ang segi copy and paste sa bible verses. Obligado tang tanan nga mosulti. Kining klaseha sa sakit which para nako di ni sakit sa utok uwag ra jud siguro ni hehehhe mao ni nakaingon daghan sex abused victim diri kay unsaon inay isulti aron daghan masayod itago tago nuon.Mahiluna ba mong matug nga way pagpakabana. Kasagaran pari diri nga nang abuso nganong daghan sila ug naabuso? Kay inay prisohon ug hatagan ug samang silot sa ordinaryong tawo ibalhin man nuon ug laing parish kanang layo pa gyud siguruhon nga wa maabot didto ang huhungihong.
Kung sex offender jud ka mamatay jud kang sex offender siguro. Mao ni hadlok kaayo nga matang sa tawo. Kinsay tig tan aw diri ug Forensic Files.Mostly sex offender gyud bisan pag na obispo or na santo papa kana, molihok jud ug balik ang demons nimo.Labi na naa ka permi sa mga bata.Near occasion of sin ni si Father permi. Iampo na raman nato di molihok ug balik iyang inner demon.

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« Reply #86 on: November 04, 2009, 01:57:59 PM »
Kini si Ms. Sabs maoy angay pabantayon sa angay bantayan, he he.

Quality ni nija Bay Hubs, mangokuy unja ug naa nay kinagod nga ibutang sa ijahang lungga, mogawas dajon ni.

maayo ni maoy pabantayon ni Skelton.




Haahahaha. I second the motion.

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« Reply #87 on: November 04, 2009, 01:58:43 PM »
Bitaw, way nag-judge diri, oi. Naay nag-homily pa tingali. ;D








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« Reply #88 on: November 04, 2009, 02:03:16 PM »
Karon pa ko kabasa ani.Perti nako ka shock. Abi man nako ni si Fr. Skelton ug traditionalist ni kay naa jud sa Traditional Latin Mass Org iyang ngalan.Pero pagkakita nako sa youtube murag naglibog ko unsa ni siya heheheh.Hala naa raba ni sa Calape karon na assign.

Way nag judge diri so please sakto na ang segi copy and paste sa bible verses. Obligado tang tanan nga mosulti. Kining klaseha sa sakit which para nako di ni sakit sa utok uwag ra jud siguro ni hehehhe mao ni nakaingon daghan sex abused victim diri kay unsaon inay isulti aron daghan masayod itago tago nuon.Mahiluna ba mong matug nga way pagpakabana. Kasagaran pari diri nga nang abuso nganong daghan sila ug naabuso? Kay inay prisohon ug hatagan ug samang silot sa ordinaryong tawo ibalhin man nuon ug laing parish kanang layo pa gyud siguruhon nga wa maabot didto ang huhungihong.
Kung sex offender jud ka mamatay jud kang sex offender siguro. Mao ni hadlok kaayo nga matang sa tawo. Kinsay tig tan aw diri ug Forensic Files.Mostly sex offender gyud bisan pag na obispo or na santo papa kana, molihok jud ug balik ang demons nimo.Labi na naa ka permi sa mga bata.Near occasion of sin ni si Father permi. Iampo na raman nato di molihok ug balik iyang inner demon.


Mao ba, naa na diay ni siya sa Calape na assign karon. Maayo unta ug naa pod tay makuha nga update bahin niya noh aron di ta mag sigeg tagna tagna.

Nakahunahuna ko ron,naay group of priest nga gusto nilang ipasa ang new rules nga e allow sila nga mag menyo,basin usa pod ni sa reasons kay atleast ug naa silay asawang e dog magabii,naa silay kapagawsan sa ilang mga gitawag ug uwag.(Sakto ba?)

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« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2009, 02:03:26 PM »
Near occasion of sin ni si Father permi. Iampo na raman nato di molihok ug balik iyang inner demon.

Yes. I agree with this.

Let us pray for him na lang. God grant him the strength to overcome. Victory in Christ!
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« Reply #90 on: November 04, 2009, 02:07:22 PM »
Pray with me, folks.
For this is not just for Brother Skelton, but for all of us, who are innately tempted by sin.


pen your ears to our words, O Lord.
    Consider our innermost thoughts.
    Pay attention to our cries for help, our king and our God.
            Because we pray only to you.
            In the morning, O Lord, hear our voices.
            In the morning we lay our needs in front of you,
            and we wait. (1)
    Have pity on us, O Lord, because we are weak.
    Heal us, O Lord, because our bones shake with terror.
    Our souls have been deeply shaken with terror.
    But you, O Lord, how long...?
    Come back O Lord.
            Rescue us. Save us because of your mercy! (2)
            We are worn out from our groanings.
           Our eyes flood our beds every night.
            We soak our couches with tears.
            Our eyes blur from grief.
            They fail because of our enemies.
        Get away from us, all you troublemakers,
            because the Lord has heard the sound of our crying.
            The Lord has heard our pleas for mercy.
            The Lord accepts our prayers.
        All our enemies will be put to shame and deeply shaken
            with terror. In a moment they will retreat and be put to shame.
        O Lord our God, we have taken refuge in you.
            Save, us and rescue us from all who are pursuing us. (3)
        Arise O God! Lift your hand O God.
            Do not forget oppressed people! (4)
        Look at us! Answer us, O Lord our God!
        Light up our eyes or else we will die
            and our enemies will say, "We have overpowered them."
            Our opponents will rejoice because we have been shaken.
        But we trust your mercy.
        Our hearts find joy in your salvation.
        We will sing to the Lord because he has been good to us. (5)
        The Lord is our inheritance and our cup.
            You are the one who determines our destinies.
            Your boundary lines mark out pleasant places for us.
            Indeed, our inheritance is something beautiful.
        Let the verdict of our innocence come directly from you.
        We have avoided cruelty because of your word.
            In spite of what others have done,
            our steps have remained firmly in your paths.
            Our feet have not slipped.
        We have called on you because you answer us, O God.
            Turn your ear toward us.
            Hear what we have to say.
            Reveal your miraculous deeds of mercy,
            O Savior of those who find refuge by your side
            from those who attack them.
        Guard us as if we were the pupil of your  eye.
        Hide us in the shadow of your wings.
        Hide us from the wicked people who violently attack us,
            from our deadly enemies who surround us. (6)
        We love you O Lord our strength.
            You reached down from high above and took hold of us.
            You pulled us out of the raging water.
            You rescued us from our strong enemy.
        O Lord you light our lamps
            Our God turns our darkness into light.
        God's way is perfect!
            The promise of the Lord has proven to be true.
            He is a shield to all those who take refuge in him.
        God arms us with strength and makes our way perfect. (7)
        Even though an army sets up camp against us,
            our hearts will not be afraid.
        Even though a war breaks against us,
            we will still have confidence in the Lord.
        We have asked one thing from the Lord.
            This we will seek: to remain in the Lord's house
            all the days of our lives in order to gaze at the Lord's beauty,
            and to search for an answer in his temple.
        Now our heads will be raised above our enemies
            who surround us.
        Do not surrender us to the will of our opponents.
            False witnesses have risen against us.
            They breathe out violence.
        We believe we will see the goodness of the Lord
            in this world of the living.
        Wait with hope for the Lord.
        Be strong and let our hearts be courageous.
        Yes we wait with hope for the Lord. ( 8 )
        We have taken refuge in you O Lord.
            Never let us be put to shame.
            Pull us out of the net they have secretly laid for us,
            into your hands we entrust our spirits.
            You have rescued us, O Lord, God of truth.
        We will rejoice and be glad because of your mercy.
            You have seen our misery.
            You have known the troubles in our souls.
            You have not handed us over to the enemy.
            You have set our feet in a place where we can move freely.
        Our future is in your hands.
            Rescue us from our enemies, from those who persecute us.
            Smile on us. Save us with your mercy.
        O Lord we have called on you, so do not let us put to shame.
        Let their lying lips be speechless,
            since they speak against righteous people
            with arrogance and contempt. (9)
        O Lord attack those who attack us.
            Fight against those who fight against us.
            Arise to help us.
            Hold your spear to block the way of those pursue us.
        Let those who seek our lives be put to shame and disgraced.
        Let those who plan our downfall be turned back to confusion.
        Let their path be dark and slippery
            as the Messenger of the Lord pursues them.
        Rescue our precious lives from the lions.
        We will give you thanks in a large gathering.
        We will praise you in crowd of worshippers.
        Let those who promote themselves at our expense
            be clothed with shame and disgrace.
        Let those who are happy when we are declared innocent
            joyfully sing and rejoice.
        Let them continually say, "The Lord is great.
            He is happy when his servants have peace."
        Then our tongues will tell about your righteousness,
            about your praise all day long. (10)
        You have made us endure many terrible troubles.
        You restore us to life again.
        You bring us back from the depth of the earth.
        You comfort us and make us greater than ever. (11)
        During times of trouble we called on the Lord.
            The Lord answered us and set us free from all of them.
        It is better to depend on the Lord then trust mortals.
        It is better to depend on the Lord then to trust influential people. (12)
        We wait for the Lord, our souls wait,
            and with hope we wait for his word. (13)
        Loudly, we cry to the Lord.
        Loudly we plead with the Lord for mercy.
            We pour our complaints in his presence,
            and tell him our troubles.
            When we begin to lose hope,
            You already know what we are experiencing. (14)
        A righteous person will always be remembered.
            We are not afraid of the bad news.
            Our hearts remain secure, full of confidence in the Lord.
            Our hearts are steady, and we are not afraid.
            In the end we will look triumphantly at our enemies.
            The wicked people see this and become angry.
            They angrily grit their teeth and disappear.
            The hope of those wicked people will vanish. (15)
        O Lord blessed is the person
            whom you discipline and instruct from your  teachings.
            You give us peace and quiet  from times of trouble,
            while a pit is dug to trap wicked people.
        When we said "Our feet are slipping,"
            Your mercy O Lord continued to hold us up.
        When we worried about many things,
            Your assuring words soothed our souls. (16)
        We call your name from the deepest pit, O Lord.
            Listen for our cries for help.
            Don't close your eyes when we cry out for relief.
            Be close at hand when we call to you.
            You told us not to be afraid.
            Plead our cases for us, O Lord. Reclaim our lives.
            Look at the wrongs that have been done to us. (17)
        We will look to the Lord.
        We will wait for God to save us.
        We will wait for our God to listen to us.
        Don't laugh at us, our enemies.
            Although we have fallen we will get up.
            Although we will sit in the dark, the Lord is our light.
        Then our enemies will see this, and be covered with shame,
            because they asked us,"Where is the Lord your God?"
            Now we look at them.
            They are trampled like mud in the streets. (18)
        The reason we can still find hope is that we keep this
        one thing in mind: The Lord's mercy. We were not
        completely wiped out. His compassion is never limited.
        It is new every morning. His faithfulness is great. Our
        souls can say, "Lord is our lot in life. That is
        why we find hope in him.  The Lord is good to those
        who wait for him, to anyone who seeks help from him.
        It is good to continue to hope and wait silently
        for the Lord to save us." (19)
            Lord please pay attention to our prayers and
        to the prayers of all your other servants who want
        to worship your name. (20)
           

In the name of our High Priest and Redeemer, the
        Christ, through the power and intercession of the Holy Spirit,
        our Comforter, we pray in faith, hope and love.  Amen!


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« Reply #91 on: November 04, 2009, 02:07:58 PM »

Pray with me, folks.
For this is not just for Brother Skelton, but for all of us, who are innately tempted by sin.

-----------
Open your ears to our words, O Lord.
    Consider our innermost thoughts.
    Pay attention to our cries for help, our king and our God.
            Because we pray only to you.
            In the morning, O Lord, hear our voices.
            In the morning we lay our needs in front of you,
            and we wait. (1)
    Have pity on us, O Lord, because we are weak.
    Heal us, O Lord, because our bones shake with terror.
    Our souls have been deeply shaken with terror.
    But you, O Lord, how long...?
    Come back O Lord.
            Rescue us. Save us because of your mercy! (2)
            We are worn out from our groanings.
           Our eyes flood our beds every night.
            We soak our couches with tears.
            Our eyes blur from grief.
            They fail because of our enemies.
        Get away from us, all you troublemakers,
            because the Lord has heard the sound of our crying.
            The Lord has heard our pleas for mercy.
            The Lord accepts our prayers.
        All our enemies will be put to shame and deeply shaken
            with terror. In a moment they will retreat and be put to shame.
        O Lord our God, we have taken refuge in you.
            Save, us and rescue us from all who are pursuing us. (3)
        Arise O God! Lift your hand O God.
            Do not forget oppressed people! (4)
        Look at us! Answer us, O Lord our God!
        Light up our eyes or else we will die
            and our enemies will say, "We have overpowered them."
            Our opponents will rejoice because we have been shaken.
        But we trust your mercy.
        Our hearts find joy in your salvation.
        We will sing to the Lord because he has been good to us. (5)
        The Lord is our inheritance and our cup.
            You are the one who determines our destinies.
            Your boundary lines mark out pleasant places for us.
            Indeed, our inheritance is something beautiful.
        Let the verdict of our innocence come directly from you.
        We have avoided cruelty because of your word.
            In spite of what others have done,
            our steps have remained firmly in your paths.
            Our feet have not slipped.
        We have called on you because you answer us, O God.
            Turn your ear toward us.
            Hear what we have to say.
            Reveal your miraculous deeds of mercy,
            O Savior of those who find refuge by your side
            from those who attack them.
        Guard us as if we were the pupil of your  eye.
        Hide us in the shadow of your wings.
        Hide us from the wicked people who violently attack us,
            from our deadly enemies who surround us. (6)
        We love you O Lord our strength.
            You reached down from high above and took hold of us.
            You pulled us out of the raging water.
            You rescued us from our strong enemy.
        O Lord you light our lamps
            Our God turns our darkness into light.
        God's way is perfect!
            The promise of the Lord has proven to be true.
            He is a shield to all those who take refuge in him.
        God arms us with strength and makes our way perfect. (7)
        Even though an army sets up camp against us,
            our hearts will not be afraid.
        Even though a war breaks against us,
            we will still have confidence in the Lord.
        We have asked one thing from the Lord.
            This we will seek: to remain in the Lord's house
            all the days of our lives in order to gaze at the Lord's beauty,
            and to search for an answer in his temple.
        Now our heads will be raised above our enemies
            who surround us.
        Do not surrender us to the will of our opponents.
            False witnesses have risen against us.
            They breathe out violence.
        We believe we will see the goodness of the Lord
            in this world of the living.
        Wait with hope for the Lord.
        Be strong and let our hearts be courageous.
        Yes we wait with hope for the Lord. ( 8 )
        We have taken refuge in you O Lord.
            Never let us be put to shame.
            Pull us out of the net they have secretly laid for us,
            into your hands we entrust our spirits.
            You have rescued us, O Lord, God of truth.
        We will rejoice and be glad because of your mercy.
            You have seen our misery.
            You have known the troubles in our souls.
            You have not handed us over to the enemy.
            You have set our feet in a place where we can move freely.
        Our future is in your hands.
            Rescue us from our enemies, from those who persecute us.
            Smile on us. Save us with your mercy.
        O Lord we have called on you, so do not let us put to shame.
        Let their lying lips be speechless,
            since they speak against righteous people
            with arrogance and contempt. (9)
        O Lord attack those who attack us.
            Fight against those who fight against us.
            Arise to help us.
            Hold your spear to block the way of those pursue us.
        Let those who seek our lives be put to shame and disgraced.
        Let those who plan our downfall be turned back to confusion.
        Let their path be dark and slippery
            as the Messenger of the Lord pursues them.
        Rescue our precious lives from the lions.
        We will give you thanks in a large gathering.
        We will praise you in crowd of worshippers.
        Let those who promote themselves at our expense
            be clothed with shame and disgrace.
        Let those who are happy when we are declared innocent
            joyfully sing and rejoice.
        Let them continually say, "The Lord is great.
            He is happy when his servants have peace."
        Then our tongues will tell about your righteousness,
            about your praise all day long. (10)
        You have made us endure many terrible troubles.
        You restore us to life again.
        You bring us back from the depth of the earth.
        You comfort us and make us greater than ever. (11)
        During times of trouble we called on the Lord.
            The Lord answered us and set us free from all of them.
        It is better to depend on the Lord then trust mortals.
        It is better to depend on the Lord then to trust influential people. (12)
        We wait for the Lord, our souls wait,
            and with hope we wait for his word. (13)
        Loudly, we cry to the Lord.
        Loudly we plead with the Lord for mercy.
            We pour our complaints in his presence,
            and tell him our troubles.
            When we begin to lose hope,
            You already know what we are experiencing. (14)
        A righteous person will always be remembered.
            We are not afraid of the bad news.
            Our hearts remain secure, full of confidence in the Lord.
            Our hearts are steady, and we are not afraid.
            In the end we will look triumphantly at our enemies.
            The wicked people see this and become angry.
            They angrily grit their teeth and disappear.
            The hope of those wicked people will vanish. (15)
        O Lord blessed is the person
            whom you discipline and instruct from your  teachings.
            You give us peace and quiet  from times of trouble,
            while a pit is dug to trap wicked people.
        When we said "Our feet are slipping,"
            Your mercy O Lord continued to hold us up.
        When we worried about many things,
            Your assuring words soothed our souls. (16)
        We call your name from the deepest pit, O Lord.
            Listen for our cries for help.
            Don't close your eyes when we cry out for relief.
            Be close at hand when we call to you.
            You told us not to be afraid.
            Plead our cases for us, O Lord. Reclaim our lives.
            Look at the wrongs that have been done to us. (17)
        We will look to the Lord.
        We will wait for God to save us.
        We will wait for our God to listen to us.
        Don't laugh at us, our enemies.
            Although we have fallen we will get up.
            Although we will sit in the dark, the Lord is our light.
        Then our enemies will see this, and be covered with shame,
            because they asked us,"Where is the Lord your God?"
            Now we look at them.
            They are trampled like mud in the streets. (18)
        The reason we can still find hope is that we keep this
        one thing in mind: The Lord's mercy. We were not
        completely wiped out. His compassion is never limited.
        It is new every morning. His faithfulness is great. Our
        souls can say, "Lord is our lot in life. That is
        why we find hope in him.  The Lord is good to those
        who wait for him, to anyone who seeks help from him.
        It is good to continue to hope and wait silently
        for the Lord to save us." (19)
            Lord please pay attention to our prayers and
        to the prayers of all your other servants who want
        to worship your name. (20)
            

In the name of our High Priest and Redeemer, the
        Christ, through the power and intercession of the Holy Spirit,
        our Comforter, we pray in faith, hope and love.  Amen!


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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #92 on: November 04, 2009, 02:12:03 PM »

Nakahunahuna ko ron,naay group of priest nga gusto nilang ipasa ang new rules nga e allow sila nga mag menyo,basin usa pod ni sa reasons kay atleast ug naa silay asawang e dog magabii,naa silay kapagawsan sa ilang mga gitawag ug uwag.(Sakto ba?)

Sakto man tingali, Mist, he he. Ang lisod lang, kay naay ubang pari nga ang gusto nilang partners kay boys in their early teens.  Daghang balaod ang usbon ani. Una, nga pwede magminyo ang pari. Ikaduha, nga pwede ang same-sex marriage. Ikatulo, nga pwede minyoan ang menor de edad. Pastilan, kalisod espelingon ning klaseha sa tawo!

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2009, 02:27:41 PM »
Sakto man tingali, Mist, he he. Ang lisod lang, kay naay ubang pari nga ang gusto nilang partners kay boys in their early teens.  Daghang balaod ang usbon ani. Una, nga pwede magminyo ang pari. Ikaduha, nga pwede ang same-sex marriage. Ikatulo, nga pwede minyoan ang menor de edad. Pastilan, kalisod espelingon ning klaseha sa tawo!

ajaw espelinga og maglisod ka,basaha na lang nang mga tawhana

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #94 on: November 04, 2009, 02:35:55 PM »
Sakto man tingali, Mist, he he. Ang lisod lang, kay naay ubang pari nga ang gusto nilang partners kay boys in their early teens.  Daghang balaod ang usbon ani. Una, nga pwede magminyo ang pari. Ikaduha, nga pwede ang same-sex marriage. Ikatulo, nga pwede minyoan ang menor de edad. Pastilan, kalisod espelingon ning klaseha sa tawo!




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« Reply #95 on: November 04, 2009, 02:39:09 PM »
ajaw espelinga og maglisod ka,basaha na lang nang mga tawhana



Hahahaha.

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« Reply #96 on: November 04, 2009, 03:15:20 PM »
Nagwali na diay ko, Bay Hubs? Naa pa'y mas eksperto nato niana. To give us a clinical perspective of this problem, diri lang sa ta sa study conducted in the US by Thomas Plante, Ph.D., ABPP, Department of Psychology, Santa Clara University, in his book Bless Me Father for I Have Sinned: Perspectives on Sexual Abuse Committed by Roman Catholic Priests:

2 ~5% of priests have had a sexual experience with a minor (i.e., anyone under the age of 18)
this means in the US alone, 1,000 ~ 3,000 priests have sexually engaged with minors
80 ~ 90% of all priests who in fact abuse minors have sexually engaged with adolescent boys not prepubescent children
the vast majority of priests who sexually abuse minors commit their first offense about 1 year after ordination
about 70% of offending clergy have been sexually abused as children too

The Tagbilaran Diocese can benefit from the practical recommendations of this study:

All applicants to priesthood can participate in a comprehensive psychological evaluation prior to admission to seminary. Sexual abuse risk factors can be examined closely.
Anyone accused of sexual misbehavior can be immediately put on administrative leave and evaluated by a trained mental health professional.
If illegal behavior has occurred then legal authorities should be contacted.
Clergy found to have been sexually involved with minors should get treatment and not be allowed to work with children and families again without very close supervision and successful treatment that helps them control (but not likely cure) their impulses.
Victims should be treated with respect and compassion and helped to receive appropriate treatment and support.

Thomas Plante is a Professor and Chair of Psychology at Santa Clara University as well as a Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University School of Medicine.

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #97 on: November 04, 2009, 03:24:22 PM »
Dili man ning imo ang wali, Bay Ben. Sa akong tan-aw, more of info dissemination man ning imo. 

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« Reply #98 on: November 04, 2009, 03:29:20 PM »
2-5 % is a small minority compared to the 95-98% that are innocent of these crimes.

That 2-5% who have allowed their sins to take the best of them do not and will not represent the Roman Catholic Church. The minority does not represent the majority.

The Roman Catholic Church reprimands the priests that have committed such transgressions. So that it will not impede in ministering the Word of God to the faithful.
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I think the recommendations and stance of the Tagbilaran Diocese is quite respectable, and stands in compliance with the Roman Catholic Church Dioceses around the world.

I stand with our priests.
God Bless them. May their tribes increase.


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« Reply #99 on: November 04, 2009, 03:50:21 PM »
Priests are humans they have their sexuality, but they are priests since they are chosen and they undergo schooling on this matter plus they are spiritually guided. People also pray pray for them for added strength,
they should/must  walk the line.

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