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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2009, 09:31:14 AM »
hehehehe...gibantayan jud diay tawn.

Kini si Ms. Sabs maoy angay pabantayon sa angay bantayan, he he.

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #81 on: November 04, 2009, 09:40:55 AM »
Kini si Ms. Sabs maoy angay pabantayon sa angay bantayan, he he.

Quality ni nija Bay Hubs, mangokuy unja ug naa nay kinagod nga ibutang sa ijahang lungga, mogawas dajon ni.

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« Reply #82 on: November 04, 2009, 09:47:17 AM »
Kini si Ms. Sabs maoy angay pabantayon sa angay bantayan, he he.

maayo ni maoy pabantayon ni Skelton.

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #83 on: November 04, 2009, 12:29:22 PM »
kining bahina wala man ta mojudge sa pari kinahanglan lang masiguro ta nga wala na na siya magbuhat dire sa ato sa iyang binuhatan didto sa amerika, HOY! kamong mga taga media nga amerkano/amerkana tingog mo kay inyo ning kababayan. siguroha gyod nga way paborpabor HA!


Bitaw wala man ta mag judge ani tingali? gibasihan raman na iya record. Ngano man wa na sha mag sabwag diri aber? didto pa jud sa atoa?  (hala judge ba na?) hahahah!

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #84 on: November 04, 2009, 01:12:48 PM »
kining bahina wala man ta mojudge sa pari kinahanglan lang masiguro ta nga wala na na siya magbuhat dire sa ato sa iyang binuhatan didto sa amerika, HOY! kamong mga taga media nga amerkano/amerkana tingog mo kay inyo ning kababayan. siguroha gyod nga way paborpabor HA!

Bitaw wala man ta mag judge ani tingali? gibasihan raman na iya record. Ngano man wa na sha mag sabwag diri aber? didto pa jud sa atoa?  (hala judge ba na?) hahahah!

Bitaw, way nag-judge diri, oi. Naay nag-homily pa tingali. ;D

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« Reply #85 on: November 04, 2009, 01:52:17 PM »
Karon pa ko kabasa ani.Perti nako ka shock. Abi man nako ni si Fr. Skelton ug traditionalist ni kay naa jud sa Traditional Latin Mass Org iyang ngalan.Pero pagkakita nako sa youtube murag naglibog ko unsa ni siya heheheh.Hala naa raba ni sa Calape karon na assign.

Way nag judge diri so please sakto na ang segi copy and paste sa bible verses. Obligado tang tanan nga mosulti. Kining klaseha sa sakit which para nako di ni sakit sa utok uwag ra jud siguro ni hehehhe mao ni nakaingon daghan sex abused victim diri kay unsaon inay isulti aron daghan masayod itago tago nuon.Mahiluna ba mong matug nga way pagpakabana. Kasagaran pari diri nga nang abuso nganong daghan sila ug naabuso? Kay inay prisohon ug hatagan ug samang silot sa ordinaryong tawo ibalhin man nuon ug laing parish kanang layo pa gyud siguruhon nga wa maabot didto ang huhungihong.
Kung sex offender jud ka mamatay jud kang sex offender siguro. Mao ni hadlok kaayo nga matang sa tawo. Kinsay tig tan aw diri ug Forensic Files.Mostly sex offender gyud bisan pag na obispo or na santo papa kana, molihok jud ug balik ang demons nimo.Labi na naa ka permi sa mga bata.Near occasion of sin ni si Father permi. Iampo na raman nato di molihok ug balik iyang inner demon.

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« Reply #86 on: November 04, 2009, 01:57:59 PM »
Kini si Ms. Sabs maoy angay pabantayon sa angay bantayan, he he.

Quality ni nija Bay Hubs, mangokuy unja ug naa nay kinagod nga ibutang sa ijahang lungga, mogawas dajon ni.

maayo ni maoy pabantayon ni Skelton.




Haahahaha. I second the motion.

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« Reply #87 on: November 04, 2009, 01:58:43 PM »
Bitaw, way nag-judge diri, oi. Naay nag-homily pa tingali. ;D








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« Reply #88 on: November 04, 2009, 02:03:16 PM »
Karon pa ko kabasa ani.Perti nako ka shock. Abi man nako ni si Fr. Skelton ug traditionalist ni kay naa jud sa Traditional Latin Mass Org iyang ngalan.Pero pagkakita nako sa youtube murag naglibog ko unsa ni siya heheheh.Hala naa raba ni sa Calape karon na assign.

Way nag judge diri so please sakto na ang segi copy and paste sa bible verses. Obligado tang tanan nga mosulti. Kining klaseha sa sakit which para nako di ni sakit sa utok uwag ra jud siguro ni hehehhe mao ni nakaingon daghan sex abused victim diri kay unsaon inay isulti aron daghan masayod itago tago nuon.Mahiluna ba mong matug nga way pagpakabana. Kasagaran pari diri nga nang abuso nganong daghan sila ug naabuso? Kay inay prisohon ug hatagan ug samang silot sa ordinaryong tawo ibalhin man nuon ug laing parish kanang layo pa gyud siguruhon nga wa maabot didto ang huhungihong.
Kung sex offender jud ka mamatay jud kang sex offender siguro. Mao ni hadlok kaayo nga matang sa tawo. Kinsay tig tan aw diri ug Forensic Files.Mostly sex offender gyud bisan pag na obispo or na santo papa kana, molihok jud ug balik ang demons nimo.Labi na naa ka permi sa mga bata.Near occasion of sin ni si Father permi. Iampo na raman nato di molihok ug balik iyang inner demon.


Mao ba, naa na diay ni siya sa Calape na assign karon. Maayo unta ug naa pod tay makuha nga update bahin niya noh aron di ta mag sigeg tagna tagna.

Nakahunahuna ko ron,naay group of priest nga gusto nilang ipasa ang new rules nga e allow sila nga mag menyo,basin usa pod ni sa reasons kay atleast ug naa silay asawang e dog magabii,naa silay kapagawsan sa ilang mga gitawag ug uwag.(Sakto ba?)

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« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2009, 02:03:26 PM »
Near occasion of sin ni si Father permi. Iampo na raman nato di molihok ug balik iyang inner demon.

Yes. I agree with this.

Let us pray for him na lang. God grant him the strength to overcome. Victory in Christ!
In Christ, anything and all things are possible.

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« Reply #90 on: November 04, 2009, 02:07:22 PM »
Pray with me, folks.
For this is not just for Brother Skelton, but for all of us, who are innately tempted by sin.


pen your ears to our words, O Lord.
    Consider our innermost thoughts.
    Pay attention to our cries for help, our king and our God.
            Because we pray only to you.
            In the morning, O Lord, hear our voices.
            In the morning we lay our needs in front of you,
            and we wait. (1)
    Have pity on us, O Lord, because we are weak.
    Heal us, O Lord, because our bones shake with terror.
    Our souls have been deeply shaken with terror.
    But you, O Lord, how long...?
    Come back O Lord.
            Rescue us. Save us because of your mercy! (2)
            We are worn out from our groanings.
           Our eyes flood our beds every night.
            We soak our couches with tears.
            Our eyes blur from grief.
            They fail because of our enemies.
        Get away from us, all you troublemakers,
            because the Lord has heard the sound of our crying.
            The Lord has heard our pleas for mercy.
            The Lord accepts our prayers.
        All our enemies will be put to shame and deeply shaken
            with terror. In a moment they will retreat and be put to shame.
        O Lord our God, we have taken refuge in you.
            Save, us and rescue us from all who are pursuing us. (3)
        Arise O God! Lift your hand O God.
            Do not forget oppressed people! (4)
        Look at us! Answer us, O Lord our God!
        Light up our eyes or else we will die
            and our enemies will say, "We have overpowered them."
            Our opponents will rejoice because we have been shaken.
        But we trust your mercy.
        Our hearts find joy in your salvation.
        We will sing to the Lord because he has been good to us. (5)
        The Lord is our inheritance and our cup.
            You are the one who determines our destinies.
            Your boundary lines mark out pleasant places for us.
            Indeed, our inheritance is something beautiful.
        Let the verdict of our innocence come directly from you.
        We have avoided cruelty because of your word.
            In spite of what others have done,
            our steps have remained firmly in your paths.
            Our feet have not slipped.
        We have called on you because you answer us, O God.
            Turn your ear toward us.
            Hear what we have to say.
            Reveal your miraculous deeds of mercy,
            O Savior of those who find refuge by your side
            from those who attack them.
        Guard us as if we were the pupil of your  eye.
        Hide us in the shadow of your wings.
        Hide us from the wicked people who violently attack us,
            from our deadly enemies who surround us. (6)
        We love you O Lord our strength.
            You reached down from high above and took hold of us.
            You pulled us out of the raging water.
            You rescued us from our strong enemy.
        O Lord you light our lamps
            Our God turns our darkness into light.
        God's way is perfect!
            The promise of the Lord has proven to be true.
            He is a shield to all those who take refuge in him.
        God arms us with strength and makes our way perfect. (7)
        Even though an army sets up camp against us,
            our hearts will not be afraid.
        Even though a war breaks against us,
            we will still have confidence in the Lord.
        We have asked one thing from the Lord.
            This we will seek: to remain in the Lord's house
            all the days of our lives in order to gaze at the Lord's beauty,
            and to search for an answer in his temple.
        Now our heads will be raised above our enemies
            who surround us.
        Do not surrender us to the will of our opponents.
            False witnesses have risen against us.
            They breathe out violence.
        We believe we will see the goodness of the Lord
            in this world of the living.
        Wait with hope for the Lord.
        Be strong and let our hearts be courageous.
        Yes we wait with hope for the Lord. ( 8 )
        We have taken refuge in you O Lord.
            Never let us be put to shame.
            Pull us out of the net they have secretly laid for us,
            into your hands we entrust our spirits.
            You have rescued us, O Lord, God of truth.
        We will rejoice and be glad because of your mercy.
            You have seen our misery.
            You have known the troubles in our souls.
            You have not handed us over to the enemy.
            You have set our feet in a place where we can move freely.
        Our future is in your hands.
            Rescue us from our enemies, from those who persecute us.
            Smile on us. Save us with your mercy.
        O Lord we have called on you, so do not let us put to shame.
        Let their lying lips be speechless,
            since they speak against righteous people
            with arrogance and contempt. (9)
        O Lord attack those who attack us.
            Fight against those who fight against us.
            Arise to help us.
            Hold your spear to block the way of those pursue us.
        Let those who seek our lives be put to shame and disgraced.
        Let those who plan our downfall be turned back to confusion.
        Let their path be dark and slippery
            as the Messenger of the Lord pursues them.
        Rescue our precious lives from the lions.
        We will give you thanks in a large gathering.
        We will praise you in crowd of worshippers.
        Let those who promote themselves at our expense
            be clothed with shame and disgrace.
        Let those who are happy when we are declared innocent
            joyfully sing and rejoice.
        Let them continually say, "The Lord is great.
            He is happy when his servants have peace."
        Then our tongues will tell about your righteousness,
            about your praise all day long. (10)
        You have made us endure many terrible troubles.
        You restore us to life again.
        You bring us back from the depth of the earth.
        You comfort us and make us greater than ever. (11)
        During times of trouble we called on the Lord.
            The Lord answered us and set us free from all of them.
        It is better to depend on the Lord then trust mortals.
        It is better to depend on the Lord then to trust influential people. (12)
        We wait for the Lord, our souls wait,
            and with hope we wait for his word. (13)
        Loudly, we cry to the Lord.
        Loudly we plead with the Lord for mercy.
            We pour our complaints in his presence,
            and tell him our troubles.
            When we begin to lose hope,
            You already know what we are experiencing. (14)
        A righteous person will always be remembered.
            We are not afraid of the bad news.
            Our hearts remain secure, full of confidence in the Lord.
            Our hearts are steady, and we are not afraid.
            In the end we will look triumphantly at our enemies.
            The wicked people see this and become angry.
            They angrily grit their teeth and disappear.
            The hope of those wicked people will vanish. (15)
        O Lord blessed is the person
            whom you discipline and instruct from your  teachings.
            You give us peace and quiet  from times of trouble,
            while a pit is dug to trap wicked people.
        When we said "Our feet are slipping,"
            Your mercy O Lord continued to hold us up.
        When we worried about many things,
            Your assuring words soothed our souls. (16)
        We call your name from the deepest pit, O Lord.
            Listen for our cries for help.
            Don't close your eyes when we cry out for relief.
            Be close at hand when we call to you.
            You told us not to be afraid.
            Plead our cases for us, O Lord. Reclaim our lives.
            Look at the wrongs that have been done to us. (17)
        We will look to the Lord.
        We will wait for God to save us.
        We will wait for our God to listen to us.
        Don't laugh at us, our enemies.
            Although we have fallen we will get up.
            Although we will sit in the dark, the Lord is our light.
        Then our enemies will see this, and be covered with shame,
            because they asked us,"Where is the Lord your God?"
            Now we look at them.
            They are trampled like mud in the streets. (18)
        The reason we can still find hope is that we keep this
        one thing in mind: The Lord's mercy. We were not
        completely wiped out. His compassion is never limited.
        It is new every morning. His faithfulness is great. Our
        souls can say, "Lord is our lot in life. That is
        why we find hope in him.  The Lord is good to those
        who wait for him, to anyone who seeks help from him.
        It is good to continue to hope and wait silently
        for the Lord to save us." (19)
            Lord please pay attention to our prayers and
        to the prayers of all your other servants who want
        to worship your name. (20)
           

In the name of our High Priest and Redeemer, the
        Christ, through the power and intercession of the Holy Spirit,
        our Comforter, we pray in faith, hope and love.  Amen!

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« Reply #91 on: November 04, 2009, 02:07:58 PM »

Pray with me, folks.
For this is not just for Brother Skelton, but for all of us, who are innately tempted by sin.

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Open your ears to our words, O Lord.
    Consider our innermost thoughts.
    Pay attention to our cries for help, our king and our God.
            Because we pray only to you.
            In the morning, O Lord, hear our voices.
            In the morning we lay our needs in front of you,
            and we wait. (1)
    Have pity on us, O Lord, because we are weak.
    Heal us, O Lord, because our bones shake with terror.
    Our souls have been deeply shaken with terror.
    But you, O Lord, how long...?
    Come back O Lord.
            Rescue us. Save us because of your mercy! (2)
            We are worn out from our groanings.
           Our eyes flood our beds every night.
            We soak our couches with tears.
            Our eyes blur from grief.
            They fail because of our enemies.
        Get away from us, all you troublemakers,
            because the Lord has heard the sound of our crying.
            The Lord has heard our pleas for mercy.
            The Lord accepts our prayers.
        All our enemies will be put to shame and deeply shaken
            with terror. In a moment they will retreat and be put to shame.
        O Lord our God, we have taken refuge in you.
            Save, us and rescue us from all who are pursuing us. (3)
        Arise O God! Lift your hand O God.
            Do not forget oppressed people! (4)
        Look at us! Answer us, O Lord our God!
        Light up our eyes or else we will die
            and our enemies will say, "We have overpowered them."
            Our opponents will rejoice because we have been shaken.
        But we trust your mercy.
        Our hearts find joy in your salvation.
        We will sing to the Lord because he has been good to us. (5)
        The Lord is our inheritance and our cup.
            You are the one who determines our destinies.
            Your boundary lines mark out pleasant places for us.
            Indeed, our inheritance is something beautiful.
        Let the verdict of our innocence come directly from you.
        We have avoided cruelty because of your word.
            In spite of what others have done,
            our steps have remained firmly in your paths.
            Our feet have not slipped.
        We have called on you because you answer us, O God.
            Turn your ear toward us.
            Hear what we have to say.
            Reveal your miraculous deeds of mercy,
            O Savior of those who find refuge by your side
            from those who attack them.
        Guard us as if we were the pupil of your  eye.
        Hide us in the shadow of your wings.
        Hide us from the wicked people who violently attack us,
            from our deadly enemies who surround us. (6)
        We love you O Lord our strength.
            You reached down from high above and took hold of us.
            You pulled us out of the raging water.
            You rescued us from our strong enemy.
        O Lord you light our lamps
            Our God turns our darkness into light.
        God's way is perfect!
            The promise of the Lord has proven to be true.
            He is a shield to all those who take refuge in him.
        God arms us with strength and makes our way perfect. (7)
        Even though an army sets up camp against us,
            our hearts will not be afraid.
        Even though a war breaks against us,
            we will still have confidence in the Lord.
        We have asked one thing from the Lord.
            This we will seek: to remain in the Lord's house
            all the days of our lives in order to gaze at the Lord's beauty,
            and to search for an answer in his temple.
        Now our heads will be raised above our enemies
            who surround us.
        Do not surrender us to the will of our opponents.
            False witnesses have risen against us.
            They breathe out violence.
        We believe we will see the goodness of the Lord
            in this world of the living.
        Wait with hope for the Lord.
        Be strong and let our hearts be courageous.
        Yes we wait with hope for the Lord. ( 8 )
        We have taken refuge in you O Lord.
            Never let us be put to shame.
            Pull us out of the net they have secretly laid for us,
            into your hands we entrust our spirits.
            You have rescued us, O Lord, God of truth.
        We will rejoice and be glad because of your mercy.
            You have seen our misery.
            You have known the troubles in our souls.
            You have not handed us over to the enemy.
            You have set our feet in a place where we can move freely.
        Our future is in your hands.
            Rescue us from our enemies, from those who persecute us.
            Smile on us. Save us with your mercy.
        O Lord we have called on you, so do not let us put to shame.
        Let their lying lips be speechless,
            since they speak against righteous people
            with arrogance and contempt. (9)
        O Lord attack those who attack us.
            Fight against those who fight against us.
            Arise to help us.
            Hold your spear to block the way of those pursue us.
        Let those who seek our lives be put to shame and disgraced.
        Let those who plan our downfall be turned back to confusion.
        Let their path be dark and slippery
            as the Messenger of the Lord pursues them.
        Rescue our precious lives from the lions.
        We will give you thanks in a large gathering.
        We will praise you in crowd of worshippers.
        Let those who promote themselves at our expense
            be clothed with shame and disgrace.
        Let those who are happy when we are declared innocent
            joyfully sing and rejoice.
        Let them continually say, "The Lord is great.
            He is happy when his servants have peace."
        Then our tongues will tell about your righteousness,
            about your praise all day long. (10)
        You have made us endure many terrible troubles.
        You restore us to life again.
        You bring us back from the depth of the earth.
        You comfort us and make us greater than ever. (11)
        During times of trouble we called on the Lord.
            The Lord answered us and set us free from all of them.
        It is better to depend on the Lord then trust mortals.
        It is better to depend on the Lord then to trust influential people. (12)
        We wait for the Lord, our souls wait,
            and with hope we wait for his word. (13)
        Loudly, we cry to the Lord.
        Loudly we plead with the Lord for mercy.
            We pour our complaints in his presence,
            and tell him our troubles.
            When we begin to lose hope,
            You already know what we are experiencing. (14)
        A righteous person will always be remembered.
            We are not afraid of the bad news.
            Our hearts remain secure, full of confidence in the Lord.
            Our hearts are steady, and we are not afraid.
            In the end we will look triumphantly at our enemies.
            The wicked people see this and become angry.
            They angrily grit their teeth and disappear.
            The hope of those wicked people will vanish. (15)
        O Lord blessed is the person
            whom you discipline and instruct from your  teachings.
            You give us peace and quiet  from times of trouble,
            while a pit is dug to trap wicked people.
        When we said "Our feet are slipping,"
            Your mercy O Lord continued to hold us up.
        When we worried about many things,
            Your assuring words soothed our souls. (16)
        We call your name from the deepest pit, O Lord.
            Listen for our cries for help.
            Don't close your eyes when we cry out for relief.
            Be close at hand when we call to you.
            You told us not to be afraid.
            Plead our cases for us, O Lord. Reclaim our lives.
            Look at the wrongs that have been done to us. (17)
        We will look to the Lord.
        We will wait for God to save us.
        We will wait for our God to listen to us.
        Don't laugh at us, our enemies.
            Although we have fallen we will get up.
            Although we will sit in the dark, the Lord is our light.
        Then our enemies will see this, and be covered with shame,
            because they asked us,"Where is the Lord your God?"
            Now we look at them.
            They are trampled like mud in the streets. (18)
        The reason we can still find hope is that we keep this
        one thing in mind: The Lord's mercy. We were not
        completely wiped out. His compassion is never limited.
        It is new every morning. His faithfulness is great. Our
        souls can say, "Lord is our lot in life. That is
        why we find hope in him.  The Lord is good to those
        who wait for him, to anyone who seeks help from him.
        It is good to continue to hope and wait silently
        for the Lord to save us." (19)
            Lord please pay attention to our prayers and
        to the prayers of all your other servants who want
        to worship your name. (20)
            

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        our Comforter, we pray in faith, hope and love.  Amen!

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« Reply #92 on: November 04, 2009, 02:12:03 PM »

Nakahunahuna ko ron,naay group of priest nga gusto nilang ipasa ang new rules nga e allow sila nga mag menyo,basin usa pod ni sa reasons kay atleast ug naa silay asawang e dog magabii,naa silay kapagawsan sa ilang mga gitawag ug uwag.(Sakto ba?)

Sakto man tingali, Mist, he he. Ang lisod lang, kay naay ubang pari nga ang gusto nilang partners kay boys in their early teens.  Daghang balaod ang usbon ani. Una, nga pwede magminyo ang pari. Ikaduha, nga pwede ang same-sex marriage. Ikatulo, nga pwede minyoan ang menor de edad. Pastilan, kalisod espelingon ning klaseha sa tawo!

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« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2009, 02:27:41 PM »
Sakto man tingali, Mist, he he. Ang lisod lang, kay naay ubang pari nga ang gusto nilang partners kay boys in their early teens.  Daghang balaod ang usbon ani. Una, nga pwede magminyo ang pari. Ikaduha, nga pwede ang same-sex marriage. Ikatulo, nga pwede minyoan ang menor de edad. Pastilan, kalisod espelingon ning klaseha sa tawo!

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« Reply #94 on: November 04, 2009, 02:35:55 PM »
Sakto man tingali, Mist, he he. Ang lisod lang, kay naay ubang pari nga ang gusto nilang partners kay boys in their early teens.  Daghang balaod ang usbon ani. Una, nga pwede magminyo ang pari. Ikaduha, nga pwede ang same-sex marriage. Ikatulo, nga pwede minyoan ang menor de edad. Pastilan, kalisod espelingon ning klaseha sa tawo!




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« Reply #95 on: November 04, 2009, 02:39:09 PM »
ajaw espelinga og maglisod ka,basaha na lang nang mga tawhana



Hahahaha.

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« Reply #96 on: November 04, 2009, 03:15:20 PM »
Nagwali na diay ko, Bay Hubs? Naa pa'y mas eksperto nato niana. To give us a clinical perspective of this problem, diri lang sa ta sa study conducted in the US by Thomas Plante, Ph.D., ABPP, Department of Psychology, Santa Clara University, in his book Bless Me Father for I Have Sinned: Perspectives on Sexual Abuse Committed by Roman Catholic Priests:

  • 2 ~5% of priests have had a sexual experience with a minor (i.e., anyone under the age of 18)
  • this means in the US alone, 1,000 ~ 3,000 priests have sexually engaged with minors
  • 80 ~ 90% of all priests who in fact abuse minors have sexually engaged with adolescent boys not prepubescent children
  • the vast majority of priests who sexually abuse minors commit their first offense about 1 year after ordination
  • about 70% of offending clergy have been sexually abused as children too

The Tagbilaran Diocese can benefit from the practical recommendations of this study:

  • All applicants to priesthood can participate in a comprehensive psychological evaluation prior to admission to seminary. Sexual abuse risk factors can be examined closely.
  • Anyone accused of sexual misbehavior can be immediately put on administrative leave and evaluated by a trained mental health professional.
  • If illegal behavior has occurred then legal authorities should be contacted.
  • Clergy found to have been sexually involved with minors should get treatment and not be allowed to work with children and families again without very close supervision and successful treatment that helps them control (but not likely cure) their impulses.
  • Victims should be treated with respect and compassion and helped to receive appropriate treatment and support.

Thomas Plante is a Professor and Chair of Psychology at Santa Clara University as well as a Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University School of Medicine.

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« Reply #97 on: November 04, 2009, 03:24:22 PM »
Dili man ning imo ang wali, Bay Ben. Sa akong tan-aw, more of info dissemination man ning imo. 

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« Reply #98 on: November 04, 2009, 03:29:20 PM »
2-5 % is a small minority compared to the 95-98% that are innocent of these crimes.

That 2-5% who have allowed their sins to take the best of them do not and will not represent the Roman Catholic Church. The minority does not represent the majority.

The Roman Catholic Church reprimands the priests that have committed such transgressions. So that it will not impede in ministering the Word of God to the faithful.
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I think the recommendations and stance of the Tagbilaran Diocese is quite respectable, and stands in compliance with the Roman Catholic Church Dioceses around the world.

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« Reply #99 on: November 04, 2009, 03:50:21 PM »
Priests are humans they have their sexuality, but they are priests since they are chosen and they undergo schooling on this matter plus they are spiritually guided. People also pray pray for them for added strength,
they should/must  walk the line.

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« Reply #100 on: November 04, 2009, 04:08:38 PM »
Priests are humans they have their sexuality, but they are priests since they are chosen and they undergo schooling on this matter plus they are spiritually guided. People also pray pray for them for added strength,
they should/must  walk the line.

Amen, Manay Tess.
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« Reply #101 on: November 04, 2009, 05:13:19 PM »
Hi Lorenzo,

You're right. In fact, the same study states that "this 2 to 5% figure is consistent with male clergy from other religious traditions and is lower than the general adult male population that is best estimated to be closer to 8%."

I am not saying that the 2 to 5% robed miscreants represent the Catholic Church, or churches of other religious traditions for that matter, any more than the 8% male perverts in the general population represent the male population--including you and me.

My point is simply that one sexually abused child is one too many. And this study indicates that 3,000 priests have engaged in sexual relations with minors. So how many minors do you imagine have been abused already?

Sorry, I have not read of any recommendations and stance of the Tagbilaran Diocese yet. This thread should be closed if the Bishop gives a satisfactory clarification on the matter.

2-5 % is a small minority compared to the 95-98% that are innocent of these crimes.

That 2-5% who have allowed their sins to take the best of them do not and will not represent the Roman Catholic Church. The minority does not represent the majority.

The Roman Catholic Church reprimands the priests that have committed such transgressions. So that it will not impede in ministering the Word of God to the faithful.
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« Reply #102 on: November 04, 2009, 05:25:29 PM »

My point is simply that one sexually abused child is one too many.

Ergo, "the 2 to 5% robed miscreants" represent an incalculable myriad.

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« Reply #103 on: November 04, 2009, 05:57:55 PM »
Who is in the position to ask the Bishop in Bohol regarding this matter? Koddi, doy palihug or Mike.

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« Reply #104 on: November 04, 2009, 09:03:41 PM »
My question is: Do the Diocese of Tagbilaran is aware of his criminal past?
First of all homosexual priest/child molester will always be remove because of the danger to the children and scandal to community. The only reason WE HAVE THOSE CHILD MOLESTER  PRIEST TODAY is because the homosexual bishop and other homosexual priest cover up and promote them.
As far as judgement  of course we are to judge. Wrong is wrong. What if you saw someone was been rape.Do you just watch it and said Well who Am I to judge. We are called to judged everyday. The bible verse is stating that if we are judging other we need to realize that we are being judge. Meaning we better not pointing fingers to others if we are committing worst sin. In the interest of charity towards our children we are obliges to point out child molester in our midst.

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« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2009, 11:13:45 PM »
kanang uban di man ka feel kay wa man sila pay anak, nga gi abused. Way balatian. Ako wa man sad koy anak nga gi abused pero what about those who were? and what about those parents who got hurt so much?

sigi lang tang YAMA-YAMA ani basi sa atong nabaw-an sa articles ug asa pa! yam yam!!! wala man ta mag puterya sa tanan nga pari ani, kay there are lots and lots of priest who are really genuine, we were talking about that Skelton. Something has to be done here. Pero preha sa question ni Manay, HOW?

Or Should we just let this things go and move on? to each his own? matud pa ni Hubag, sigi nalang tag tutok sa langit ani nga di nalang ta magpakabana sa stong surroundings ug unsa nay nanghitabo???



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« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2009, 12:19:47 AM »
My question is: Do the Diocese of Tagbilaran is aware of his criminal past?
First of all homosexual priest/child molester will always be remove because of the danger to the children and scandal to community. The only reason WE HAVE THOSE CHILD MOLESTER  PRIEST TODAY is because the homosexual bishop and other homosexual priest cover up and promote them.

Day Quel, the article states that Catholic officials in Detroit have informed the Tagbilaran Diocese about the criminal history of Skelton. It appears that this info was communicated before the ordination. At this point, it is going too far to accuse the senior heirarchy of covering up Skelton's offense because they themselves are guilty of the same offense. But the Bishop should definitely answer for the consequences of his decision.

As far as judgement  of course we are to judge. Wrong is wrong. What if you saw someone was been rape.Do you just watch it and said Well who Am I to judge.

This is exactly my point.  If this is a case of adultery, or sexual pecadillo between two consenting adults, quote me a verse and I'll join you in prayer, because even Jesus said we who lust in our minds are guilty of the same. But sexual abuse of minors is a criminal offense! From the personal feedbacks I received about Skelton, it seems the Tagbilaran diocese really has a lot of explaining to do.

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« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2009, 05:05:49 AM »
kanang uban di man ka feel kay wa man sila pay anak, nga gi abused. Way balatian. Ako wa man sad koy anak nga gi abused pero what about those who were? and what about those parents who got hurt so much?

Dili lalim ang kahingawa nga bation sa usa ka ginikanan kabahin sa iyang anak. During the wayward days of my youth I could not understand why my mother would stay up all night to wait for me to be home. Niadtong panahona hapit kada gabii ko mabuntagan. I felt that nothing untoward could happen to me. Obviously, my mother felt otherwise.

You can call me dense, or insensitive, but the roles had to be reversed and I had to be a parent myself to understand--by which I mean not just comprehend intellectually, but respond as a human being, with mind and heart, taking in the full weight of anxiety and dread of the thought of harm happening to someone you love, someone you saw grow up under your care and protection.

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« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2009, 07:48:57 AM »
kanang uban di man ka feel kay wa man sila pay anak, nga gi abused. Way balatian. Ako wa man sad koy anak nga gi abused pero what about those who were? and what about those parents who got hurt so much?

Bitaw Belle, mga bata ra ba have a very unquestioning attitude towards authority. Luoy kung pahimuslan ang ilang pagkainosente sa tawo nga ilang gitahod. Naa ko'y amigo nga 42 na ug naa'y tulo ka anak. Pero ug maglingaw-lingaw mi usahay ug red wine, ipagawas niya ang iyang self-revulsion sa gihimo sa iya sa usa ka pari kadtong nagsakristan pa siya sa iyang kabatan-on. I know of other similar cases of sexual abuse by the clergy nga naa'y long lasting pyscho-emotional damage sa pagkawo sa biktima.

wala man ta mag puterya sa tanan nga pari ani, kay there are lots and lots of priest who are really genuine, we were talking about that Skelton. Something has to be done here. Pero preha sa question ni Manay, HOW?

Si Skelton ra bitaw atong gihisgutan diri.  The statistics I mentioned only generalize the trends within a study sample, but do not stereotype any particular group of people or religion.


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« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2009, 08:15:33 AM »
During the wayward days of my youth...

Matud pa ni flag-master Sabina, motipas lang man daw gihapon ka Bay... ;D

You can call me dense, or insensitive, but the roles had to be reversed and I had to be a parent myself to understand--by which I mean not just comprehend intellectually, but respond as a human being, with mind and heart, taking in the full weight of anxiety and dread of the thought of harm happening to someone you love, someone you saw grow up under your care and protection.

Usahay bitaw, maka-realize ko that I may have out-parented my parents by worrying too much about the kids. But it's liberating to see them grow wings on their own, unfettered by domestic rules, ug hangtud ron wa pa man hinuon ko tagaig sakit sa ulo. That it was my habit to walk them to school as kids here has really made them open up to me about their self-discoveries. Even when two of them are already teens, the kids tell me who their crushes are, and what their picks and piques are about the opposite sex.

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2009, 08:27:32 AM »
Bitaw Belle, mga bata ra ba have a very unquestioning attitude towards authority. Luoy kung pahimuslan ang ilang pagkainosente sa tawo nga ilang gitahod. Naa ko'y amigo nga 42 na ug naa'y tulo ka anak. Pero ug maglingaw-lingaw mi usahay ug red wine, ipagawas niya ang iyang self-revulsion sa gihimo sa iya sa usa ka pari kadtong nagsakristan pa siya sa iyang kabatan-on. I know of other similar cases of sexual abuse by the clergy nga naa'y long lasting pyscho-emotional damage sa pagkawo sa biktima.

Maayo gani ning imong amigo, Bay Ben, kay nakabaton og normal life in spite of his harrowing experience. Indeed, the elements of abuse of authority and hypocrisy make the experience of the victim even more unbearable.

Ang nakasamot og kamakahahadlok aning kaso nga atong gihisgotan karon kay ang targetted victims naa sa awkward age when they are still discovering their sexuality. They are ripe for the loss of sexual innocence, only to be initiated in such a vile and sickening way.

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« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2009, 08:44:17 AM »
Matud pa ni flag-master Sabina, motipas lang man daw gihapon ka Bay... ;D

He he, no comment. After waxing nostalgic about the past, I guess I may be allowed to be prudent about the present. ;D

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« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2009, 10:43:42 AM »
He he, no comment. After waxing nostalgic about the past, I guess I may be allowed to be prudent about the present. ;D

Bay Hubs, normal ra man tingali ang "youthful indiscretions." And dili normal "indiscretions with the youth."

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« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2009, 12:45:46 PM »
Bay Hubs, normal ra man tingali ang "youthful indiscretions." And dili normal "indiscretions with the youth."

Sakto. However, in the case at bar, it takes the kindest euphemism to refer to subject's acts as "indiscretions". And in the Philippine context, such "indiscretions with the youth" are even more repugnant when the perpetrator is one of the "2 to 5% robed miscreants".

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #114 on: November 07, 2009, 12:06:53 AM »
This Skeleton news, aw, Skelton diay
is just bukog ra sa ubang binuhatan sa
mga paring wala magtuman sa ilang
Covenant with God.

Kon sa manicure pa, ingrown ra ni
nga balita oy. Kon maghimo lang tag
listahan sa mga pari nga angay unta
tangtangan sa ilang sotana, daghan
kaayo bisag asa. Apil na sa atoa.

Pero hilis lang ang ngipon sa simbahan
bahin niini. Usa ka rason, sa daghang
mga rason, mao nga kulang kaayo tag
mga pari nga moserbisyo.

Ug ang simbahan na ang kabalo sa
ubang mga rasones niini. This is Side A.

Side B, is that, may paglaom pa.
Korek si Misty nga posible nagbag-o
na si Skelton. Ug aron mahinaykan
niya ang pagbag-o, nagpalayo siya
sa Amerika.

Mao nga kinahanglan jod nga ubanan
nato ang kaparian sa ilang mission
nga pag-evangelize sa Ginoo. Kay
kon pasagdan nato sila, maluya, ug
matintal ni Taning.

Luoy kaayo ang kinabuhi sa pari.
Nindot pa sa bag-o pa. Tinood na.
Mao nga kitang mga Members of The
Laity needs to be active in church
para ganahan pod atong pari sa pagpa
dagan sa iyang kinabuhing diosnon.

Ang pari kinahanglan intawon sa atong
attention isip kaabag nila sa pagpalambo
sa atong pagtoo. We need to sustain
our bonding with them, duha man ang
sangpotan, we will grow spiritually by
the priest's guidance ug they will grow
also as sheperd of God.

We will pray for our priests and bishops.
We must be attached to them, to the
programs of the church. We must have
a symbiotic relationship with our priests
and bishops spiritually, morally & socially.

May God be praised !!!

Let us all forward in Christ !!!

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #115 on: November 07, 2009, 12:51:46 AM »
re: Side B, is that, may paglaom pa.
Korek si Misty nga posible nagbag-o
na si Skelton. Ug aron mahinaykan
niya ang pagbag-o, nagpalayo siya
sa Amerika.


ang mga phedophiles all over the world mohawa jud sila sa ilang nasud kay gi did-an naman na sila. Ang uban gani di man kagalakaw pila ka miles away sa ilang mga balay. Mao nga modagsang sila sa third world kay didto sa third world wa may mo reklamo. and FYI  NOT all phedophiles are homos.

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« Reply #116 on: November 07, 2009, 01:31:42 AM »
Ang kadaot pud aning pedophiles/sex offender bisan pa moingon sila ug nagbag o na pero mogawas jud ilang inner demon basta ma expose permi sa mga bata.Himoon na ramang rason moadto sa third world country kay kabalo man sila naa silay power and privilege nga wa pa sila gi stripped sa ilang uban rights didto.Diri sa U.S di sila pwede bisan 100 ft.nalang sa playground,sa school, sa mga establishment nga naay bata. Di pud sila ka ekyas kay required ni sila mo register sa national database sa mga sex offender.
Murag mo think twice siguro si Fr. Skelton ug magbuhat siya sa ingon sa atua kay bisan pa way mo pyait unya ang physical evidence unya. Known raba ning Afircan decent ug dako hahahah.
Mao jud ni dapat kahadlukan ang mga pedophiles kay moguba ni sila sa kaugmaon sa mga bata. Kining Homo di dapat kahadlukan kay gani mobuild pa ni sila ug future tan awa pila kaha nahuman uban laki ug college kay gigastuhan ug b***t.At least ang b***t mobayad manghatag pag cellphone heheheh pero ang pedo kuyaw ni sila.

kanta ni dedicate nako sa mga Homosexual nga buotan.

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« Reply #117 on: November 07, 2009, 05:32:35 AM »
hahahhaha! namuot ko sa Video! aahha! tralala man jud ka Kel oi!

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« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2009, 04:19:04 PM »
The Philippine Bishops need to act on this. This has nothing to do with judgement of Father. I'm sure Fr. Skelton may have done great things in his work there, but he shouldn't be left in public ministry dealing with kids. They've supposedly known there since 2003. It would have been FAR WISER to quietly retire him from public duty long before now.

The US Bishops made this exact mistake dealing with priests in years past. They hoped if they prayed hard enough, maybe the priest had changed and wouldn't do it again. Much of the time, the priests re-offended doing TERRIBLE DAMAGE to the credibility of the Church.

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« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2009, 04:46:38 PM »
The Philippine Bishops need to act on this. This has nothing to do with judgement of Father. I'm sure Fr. Skelton may have done great things in his work there, but he shouldn't be left in public ministry dealing with kids. They've supposedly known there since 2003. It would have been FAR WISER to quietly retire him from public duty long before now.

The US Bishops made this exact mistake dealing with priests in years past. They hoped if they prayed hard enough, maybe the priest had changed and wouldn't do it again. Much of the time, the priests re-offended doing TERRIBLE DAMAGE to the credibility of the Church.

Indeed. I guess that from the hindsight of a litany of sad experiences, the Church should, in this case, decide to err on the side of caution.

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