Author Topic: Panglao International Airport Deal or No Deal? (Read 29803 times)

udtohan · « **on:** September 08, 2007, 12:46:20 PM »

until now, the issue of the panglao international airport is still "hot." what do you think? do we need it or not?

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pioneer · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2007, 12:55:58 PM »

The Panglao Airport is not good for Boholanos because those who want it constructed have secret, wrong motives for building it...

Read: Some people want to get richer by having the Philippine government bought their lands.

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Barbaro · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2007, 01:03:08 PM »

murag dili na kaayo kinahanglanon kay dool nata kaayo ug cebu.. pero kung may kaayuhan nga maedulot DEAL.. pero HOT kaayo nga issue maayo pa itigil nalang kay mga politico lang ang mabolahan..

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C2H4 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2007, 01:11:36 PM »

Naa naman Tagb Airport di ba? Kung mao nalang na ang i-improve?

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Dot (.) · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2007, 05:55:41 PM »

Noah built the ark up in the mountains, away from the sea, and people laughed at him for his useless endeavor.

Do we want to be a Noah or the people who laughed at him?

Sure there is money. Many people will enjoy or are already enjoying the money. And many more money is coming for everyone to enjoy. But is this alone enough reason to be against -- or in favor -- of the airport project?

Di na lang ta maghisgot sa kwarta o kon kinsa ang maka kwarta kay money is always in the equation, whether in government or private projects.

Everybody wants to get rich: either quickly, or at the normal pace.

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pioneer · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2007, 07:12:12 PM »

Noah built the ark up in the mountains, away from the sea, and people laughed at him for his useless endeavor.

Do we want to be a Noah or the people who laughed at him?

Sure there is money. Many people will enjoy or are already enjoying the money. And many more money is coming for everyone to enjoy. But is this alone enough reason to be against -- or in favor -- of the airport project?

Di na lang ta maghisgot sa kwarta o kon kinsa ang maka kwarta kay money is always in the equation, whether in government or private projects.

Everybody wants to get rich: either quickly, or at the normal pace.

Money has many faces. The problem comes when one wants to enrich himself at the expense of public funds.

Now, if it is a government project: the question is priority.

Let us remember that once you've built an airport, it becomes irreversible. It will be there forever.

Based on documents I've read, I know so well that this Panglao Airport lacks careful planning and feasibility study.

If a place is really good, people from all over the world will troop to the place with or without an airport.

Imagine this: you have an airport - but will there be airplanes that will land on your airport? Can you convince Japan Airlines, British Airways, Korean Airlines, etc to have direct flights from their country to Bohol? I'm not pessimistic here - I just want to be realistic.

Do you know that for an airline to put up one international flight it would cost the airline millions of dollars?

Airlines are not foolish to put up an international flight if there are no clamor for it, if there are no demands for it, if they are not sure that there would be steady stream of travelers.

What will happen to your airport if there are no airplanes?

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pioneer · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2007, 07:15:07 PM »

Just tell me, just answer one question, have you read or heard of any news that one airline demands an international airport in Bohol?

You cannot just build an airport without considering the side of the airline companies.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2007, 07:22:08 PM »

An international airport without international flights is good for Bohol.

It's consistent with Keeping Bohol small in a big way

Bongga!!!

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2007, 07:26:33 PM »

Remember Kevin Costner's movie FIELD OF DREAMS?

Voices have been telling him to build a baseball field in the middle of the cornfield. His friends thought he was going nuts but he did it anyway. And when it was done, the people came to play.

But that's just the movie...

Let's keep Bohol small in a big way

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Happy · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2007, 07:36:57 PM »

Naa naman Tagb Airport di ba? Kung mao nalang na ang i-improve?

bitaw no, panindoton ba. Kaysa maghimo rapud ug laing airport nya pasagdaan lang pud inighuman.

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Barbaro · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2007, 07:43:04 PM »

alanganin ang daan nga airport kay mubo ang run way.. wala na say space at daghan obstraction nga buliding dili na sya adviciable.specially kung international airport na..

Mike, Project lang na international airport nga naa ta pero walang mga foriegn airplanes nga molanding. pila raman kaha ka abroad ang bohol kung cargoes sad maayo nalang may isa sa isa ka buwan.

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Happy · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2007, 07:45:25 PM »

na mao pud diay.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2007, 09:12:54 PM »

From what I remember from the previous pronouncements of our local officials, the airport in Panglao is actually a domestic airport with international standard. In other words, it is primarily for domestic flights but already capable of handling international flights, if there are any.

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asianfairy · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2007, 11:36:22 PM »

Money has many faces. The problem comes when one wants to enrich himself at the expense of public funds.

Now, if it is a government project: the question is priority.

Let us remember that once you've built an airport, it becomes irreversible. It will be there forever.

Based on documents I've read, I know so well that this Panglao Airport lacks careful planning and feasibility study.

If a place is really good, people from all over the world will troop to the place with or without an airport.

Imagine this: you have an airport - but will there be airplanes that will land on your airport? Can you convince Japan Airlines, British Airways, Korean Airlines, etc to have direct flights from their country to Bohol? I'm not pessimistic here - I just want to be realistic.

Do you know that for an airline to put up one international flight it would cost the airline millions of dollars?

Airlines are not foolish to put up an international flight if there are no clamor for it, if there are no demands for it, if they are not sure that there would be steady stream of travelers.

What will happen to your airport if there are no airplanes?

Basin maparehas laman nas Agoroy market nga hangtod ron a BIG eyesore in the city.

An International aiport in Panglao is not necessary kay duol rata kaayo sa Cebu.
Madaot sab ang tranquility sa gamay nga isla kon himoan sa Intyernational airport. wa na unya ay mga tourist ganahan moanha panglao kay di sila ganahan banha.

Angay buhaton unta ipalami ang kalsada padong panglao and connect Cebu and Bohol with European standard shipping lines kanang dako nga boat para enjoy mga tourist mosakay barko from Cebu to Bohol. Pwede ideretso na sila sa Panglao.

Kanang gusto magtukod IA diha sa Panglao nag usik usik lang sa kwarta nga pwede unta magamit sa ubang importante nga butang.

Mora na ug amahan nga gihuboghubog lang ang kwarta instead nga ipalit ug bugas para ipakaon sa iya mga anak.

That's my opinion.

Ciao!

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asianfairy · « **Reply #14 on:** September 09, 2007, 12:13:29 AM »

Na..mosamot na kadaghan nang mga mafia unya dihas Bohol kon naa napoy dako nga casino as Panglao.!!

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udtohan · « **Reply #15 on:** September 10, 2007, 02:10:53 PM »

if daghan mafia unsay mahitabo man?

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asianfairy · « **Reply #16 on:** September 10, 2007, 03:33:45 PM »

if daghan mafia unsay mahitabo man?

daghan madato ug daghan sab mamurder...

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udtohan · « **Reply #17 on:** September 10, 2007, 07:54:12 PM »

hadluka no? sa europe raman nabasahan nako na ....

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hazel · « **Reply #18 on:** September 10, 2007, 08:11:54 PM »

until now, the issue of the panglao international airport is still "hot." what do you think? do we need it or not?

we don't need it...we already have an existing airport, why not improve the latter instead of making a new one?

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asianfairy · « **Reply #19 on:** September 11, 2007, 12:39:06 AM »

NaaÂ¨s Italy daghang Mafia haÂ´sta sa Russia.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #20 on:** September 11, 2007, 03:02:15 AM »

This is just a joke, but I think the person who really is obsessed on building an International Airport is the one who always remembers the word "Airport" when he looks himself at the mirror every morning.

I guess you are familiar with him.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #21 on:** September 12, 2007, 06:29:25 PM »

This is just a joke, but I think the person who really is obsessed on building an International Airport is the one who always remembers the word "Airport" when he looks himself at the mirror every morning.

I guess you are familiar with him.

Nahagbong ko sa akong lingkoranan og kinatawa.
Nagasgas akong buna sa salog
Naay na pud koy "airport"!

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willmerit · « **Reply #22 on:** September 13, 2007, 04:32:13 AM »

hehhehe

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Bambi · « **Reply #23 on:** September 13, 2007, 04:41:12 AM »

Nahagbong ko sa akong lingkoranan og kinatawa.
Nagasgas akong buna sa salog
Naay na pud koy "airport"!

lol an more

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Happy · « **Reply #24 on:** September 14, 2007, 12:16:45 AM »

Nahagbong ko sa akong lingkoranan og kinatawa.
Nagasgas akong buna sa salog
Naay na pud koy "airport"!

GEC kumusta man ang imo airport pwede na landingan?

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Mari · « **Reply #25 on:** September 14, 2007, 01:25:08 AM »

why not? i think we should give it a shot. progress is a gamble, it has pros and cons. it's good to keep our grounds open. it will open a lot of jobs and opportunities, just like Bangkok. It used to be so tight, now they are opening their portals and Thais are enjoying it and some Filipinos even benefit the opportunities they have there like me. the government just has to lay rules. with or without the airport, let's face it, there would still be vested interest in any venture. let the Boholanos enjoy the International Airport and the stuff attached to it.

life is too short, we should enjoy it.

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Mari · « **Reply #26 on:** September 14, 2007, 01:37:01 AM »

c'mmon guys, would you rather go through the hassle of landing in Manila straight from where u are now, rather than landing in Bohol straight to your home? let's face it, Bohol is a small island no more, it is the number one tourist destination in the Philippines, we might want to keep it to ourselves but it's a fact, tourists come to check the place out. we have to deal with it. Tubag Bohol is promoting Bohol, that's added advertisement. it's not a question of who's getting rich, but convenience. transpo is one basic thing anyone would want. i used to have that mentality, skeptical but when i was exposed to the busy Bangkok and experience the comfort of such a small Asian country, my sentiment changed.

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Mari · « **Reply #27 on:** September 14, 2007, 01:45:19 AM »

with or without the airport sa Panglao kung mosulod jud ang mafia or other bad elements, they can do that. give them our Boholano hospitality

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Mari · « **Reply #28 on:** September 14, 2007, 01:46:43 AM »

maybe this will be a good opportunity for our law enforcement officers to work their *** out and be effective.

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slackware · « **Reply #29 on:** September 14, 2007, 01:48:59 AM »

dah! gipakyaw man ni mari!

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Mari · « **Reply #30 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:03:10 AM »

maau nang pakyawn para ako ray sakay

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Mari · « **Reply #31 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:04:04 AM »

way palag ba

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Mari · « **Reply #32 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:04:50 AM »

kay natug na ang mga Bol-anon ako nalay nagmata

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Mari · « **Reply #33 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:07:40 AM »

bitaw, wa may lingaw and everyone seem against with the idea of having an international airport, maau ng naay mo agree sad

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Mari · « **Reply #34 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:09:01 AM »

it pays to rock the boat

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slackware · « **Reply #35 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:12:38 AM »

maayo lagi na ug madayon man gani pagtukod! basig masugdan man tood unya di sad humanon!

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Mari · « **Reply #36 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:16:46 AM »

that's a different story. murag mahimo ang Bohol og Athens, daghan og ruins...

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Mari · « **Reply #37 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:18:11 AM »

murag kanta, i did my best but wasnt good enough...hehehehe

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Mari · « **Reply #38 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:20:45 AM »

i was shocked when i saw that fire remains at the heart of Tagbilaran still undone. if i just have so much money, i will buy that area and make it really nice. it's an eyesore really. it could have been a very good place for commerce and the like

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Mari · « **Reply #39 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:22:48 AM »

i would very much like to make Tagbilaran a really cool place, clean and safe

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slackware · « **Reply #40 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:25:56 AM »

that's a different story. murag mahimo ang Bohol og Athens, daghan og ruins...

ruins like agora public market and loboc bridge...

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Mari · « **Reply #41 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:28:57 AM »

mao jud.. mga unfinished business

, nahimong 'Unsightly Ruins'

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Mari · « **Reply #42 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:30:42 AM »

it's just keeping up with what you have started. i hope the plan of getting an international airport up will not come to waste

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Mari · « **Reply #43 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:32:44 AM »

the idea doesnt hurt but starting it and not finishing would be a waste and not good at all!

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willmerit · « **Reply #44 on:** September 14, 2007, 01:06:46 PM »

hehehhehhehe

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asianfairy · « **Reply #45 on:** September 14, 2007, 01:43:04 PM »

i was shocked when i saw that fire remains at the heart of Tagbilaran still undone. if i just have so much money, i will buy that area and make it really nice. it's an eyesore really. it could have been a very good place for commerce and the like

Hi Mari and welcome to TB. Sore medyo late na ako pagwelcome pero better late than never di ba?:-)
Asa man dapit ang imong cyber cafe ron kay basin makasuroy pod ko diha puhon?

BTW, daghan na eyesore as Tagbilaran and we dont want to have more of it.
I hope our dear political leaders will not do another mistake again.

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ben · « **Reply #46 on:** September 14, 2007, 04:40:46 PM »

The

thing is why Panglao was chosen as the spot to build the airport? Anyone know the official reasoning behind that?

I'm thinking - land is expensive there, plus you need some separation between resort area and airport because of exhaust and sound pollution.

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Bos_Intong · « **Reply #47 on:** September 14, 2007, 05:13:02 PM »

Kaning issue sa Panglao Airport is as old as I can Remember! Honestly, giluod na jud ko aning issueha!

My father and Mr. Romy Teruel were pioneers in the social preparation process and community organizing for this project! Bata pa jud intawn ko adto! Wala pa koy bolbol karun mura na og kalasangan, pero wala gihapoy nahitabo!

Giluod na naku kay bisan kinsa nalang mupapil pero walay nahitabo. Ingun si EL MUNDO nga mura silag mga iro nga nagpaghot sa Bulan kung kanus-a matagak!

I have seen how people, leaders and politicianas change their stands every now and then. Back then, gubot pa sa lukot ang sitwasyon kay daghang mga taw nga naglawgaw! Naghakot sila og mga dumptrucks nga gipasakyan og mga taw nga dili taga-panglao nga mag-rally against the project.

Karon, after pila ka years, ang maong taw nga naghakot sa mga rallyista, mao nay usa sa mga nangusog arun mapadayun ang project! If this person thinks na walay nakabantay sa iyang walay klaro nga prinsipyo, he's wrong! Naa ko na nakahibaw sa isyu!

Kani siya nga politiko, baga "as in THICK" og nawng kay nausob iyang stand kay makasapi naman siya! Now the question is, Deal or No Deal?

the answer--- NO DEAL!

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Happy · « **Reply #48 on:** September 14, 2007, 07:18:33 PM »

Balimbing diay na siya Bos.

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Bos_Intong · « **Reply #49 on:** September 14, 2007, 07:20:56 PM »

Balimbing diay na siya Bos.

Korek! This is the sad part. Daghan ang wala makahibaw, og ang uban, wala nay pakialam.

Basta, lood kaayo og lata na ang issue sa Airport. Unya ra ko mutoo og naa na koy makita nga airplane na mutugpa sa Panglao.

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Happy · « **Reply #50 on:** September 14, 2007, 07:22:10 PM »

Na kuyaw na kung ang eroplano nitugpa kay na crush diay to simbako lang

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #51 on:** September 14, 2007, 09:51:37 PM »

Hmmm maybe a thought, let's make Tagbilaran just like Manila. Lots of people, and money. Oh sure it doesn't have the beauty any more and the air is impoossible to breath. Is air supposed to be green? When you see Manila from the air, if you can see Manila at all because of the smog, the air looks green.
Actually, I think the idea is not to turn a natural gem like Bohol, into another Manila. Everyone in the Philippines knows and loves Bohol for its natural beauty. Natural beauty stays beautiful because it is missed or too hard fro the money grubbing developers to destroy it. Once gone the natural beauty will not be there. It will be gone.
If you want night clubs and casinos and jets spewing their noise and exhaust, if you want everything to be more open to outsiders, then so be it.Let the oil wells destroy the water between Bohol and Cebu.
Let it rip the land apart to make it easy for everyone to come and say, "Tarsiers used to live here before they went extinct."
I say take it slow and think about it. Then you can always do it; but, after, you won't be able to fix God's work that broken by greedy men.

Good Franklin. Respect all life in any form.

For Boss Intong: Bitaw, bata ko ani nga isyo. Nagplano pa mi nga mopalit ug part sa old airport kay ibaligya kuno sa public kay ibalhin sa Panglao. SK (Sobra Kwarenta) na lang ko wala pa mahitabo.

Economically, we are not prepared to have an in ternational airport. It does'nt make sense at all. Ang Panglao second best lang compared to Boracay. So let's first promote our tourism industry before we invest in an airport.

It is like building the roof first before the foundation. Let us develop tourism industry to the fullest and if we become filthy rich for that, maybe we could think about building an airport.

If there is an international airport in Bohol, I would not dare using it. I prefer going through more stop-overs, i.e. Hong-Kong -Manila-Cebu-and Bohol by Supercat. I love seeing other places before reaching my destination. That's what is the mentality of a tourist, to see places, to experience.

I have a message to those who want the fast lane, heavy traffic, night life. Only two words: "Leave Bohol". I guess that solves your problem.

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hazel · « **Reply #52 on:** September 15, 2007, 12:18:32 AM »

Karon, after pila ka years, ang maong taw nga naghakot sa mga rallyista, mao nay usa sa mga nangusog arun mapadayun ang project! If this person thinks na walay nakabantay sa iyang walay klaro nga prinsipyo, he's wrong! Naa ko na nakahibaw sa isyu!

Kani siya nga politiko, baga "as in THICK" og nawng kay nausob iyang stand kay makasapi naman siya! Now the question is, Deal or No Deal?

the answer--- NO DEAL!

Unsa man ni siyang tawhana, confused?!?! pastilan baya. Sakto gyud ka Bos, kapalmuks jud siya.

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renegade · « **Reply #53 on:** September 17, 2007, 03:52:48 PM »

IASA GUD NANG AIRPORT SA PANGLAO? the projct is just being pushed by pipol who has no investments in panglao> Na ba diay property nang mga ga push ana? agresibo sila kay dako dako baya ang mabahin sa ilang paglalo sa mga taga panglao. mubuto ra na ug mahimo na pud scandal ug di mabahin ug sakto. timan e ug masayop ba ko ana,

Sa may tagaan nila ug proteksyon sa panglao? mangutana lang ko. nay inevstment ang governor ug ang deputy secretary sa ATO ba na nga si toralba aron musagang ana? WALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !
Mao, pagbantay unta ang mga taga panglao niini kay basin unya asa sila marelocate.

PAET pud nang laluon ta sa atong kaugalingon nga teritoryo. gisahon sa atong kaugalingong mantika.

Asa naman kadung mga pobre ana sa panglao? gawas sa mga dato nga kagawad diha sama anang mga nangugat na diha sa konseho sa panglao nga wa may nahimo. kas kas ra gud ug kwarta.

huuuuuuuuuuuu. paet jud. pagka paet!!!!!!!

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PrincessSaDagat · « **Reply #54 on:** September 17, 2007, 06:20:10 PM »

My deep inner feelings tell me that this Panglao airport is push by local Panglao businesses along with politicians. They wanted to attract an international flair, touristas with money written all over there wallets. Smell of money is purely greed intentions among officials/individuals who are intensely involve on this Panglao airport plans. Why do they care? It is possible, if this plans goes through, could means big money to the people who are involve? Successful project means payments under the table for success and "cooking" or manipulating its own Financial Assets to fatten its own wallets. Resorts will have bragging rights for having an international airport within a short distance. Bragging rights means enticement to many international travelers.

For all of this, will damage Panglao's environment, money wasted instead of supporting its own local people, its facilities ...

What do we do with Tagbilaran airport? Abandon the facility?

Certainly, Tagbilaran airport will be an obsolete when Panglao airport goes through. How can Tagbilaran compete with that?

However, I am for an improvement to our Tagbilaran airport, it clearly needs improvement on a local and international level if we were to compete domestically and internationally.

On a lighter note: Currently, many Panglao's resorts offers transportation services from its own resort facility to and from Tagbilaran airport for a fee or even some, it is free.

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Bambi · « **Reply #55 on:** September 17, 2007, 06:49:06 PM »

The

thing is why Panglao was chosen as the spot to build the airport? Anyone know the official reasoning behind that?

I'm thinking - land is expensive there, plus you need some separation between resort area and airport because of exhaust and sound pollution.

First, I want to welcome you in TB! Enjoy and nice having you here with us -Boholanos.

Exactly, you are right in regards to the environmental problem occurs if that so-called project push thru, but I think it is not a definite project yet. I am sure that there are some political backgrounds setting this plan (whatever it is....only the near concerned knows). In my opinion, this is useless one because Cebu International Airport is too near and the other means of transportations be effected the (Shipping Companies) for instance. The best is ....the Bohol tourism department must have first to concentrate to establish more promotions in connection with tourism and the political section must have to center more for the safety of their visitors. For what an Int'l airport for? The crimes in Bohol is quite propagating and this is one of the reasons why less foreigners are coming to visit our beautiful Bohol, isn't? Have a nice stay in Bohol!

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udtohan · « **Reply #56 on:** September 17, 2007, 08:08:40 PM »

The

thing is why Panglao was chosen as the spot to build the airport? Anyone know the official reasoning behind that?

I'm thinking - land is expensive there, plus you need some separation between resort area and airport because of exhaust and sound pollution.

why? because the project was long time ago...boholano leaders then already engineered the plan to build an international airport... the scheme, according to sources, they will buy the land for a cheaper price, then sell it to the government in thrice price. see, they can get lots of bucks of it.

we are not against progress.... and if bohol is promoting as an eco-tourism destination in the philippines, then we must preserve panglao. in fact, tourists are enjoying the usual transportation going to bohol because they have lots of experiences.

why boracay has lots of tourists despite the small airport (smaller than tagbilaran )? tourists will go not of the airport but of the place and people.

when i accompanied my japanese friends for a bohol tour, they liked the roads..but when they came back to bohol after 2 years and the roads were all paved, they missed the unpaved roads...but that is another story.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #57 on:** September 18, 2007, 06:05:15 AM »

This is another long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

Good to you Jeroen Hellingman, you have more and more supporters. People of Bohol have awaken to the reality. I have read your article "An International Airport in Panglao makes no economic sense". Folks, Jeroen Hellingman campaigned against this before Tubag Bohol was born.

By the way, welcome to tubag bohol "Renegade" you are the most vulgar member I've ever read. I enjoyed your comments.

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Bambi · « **Reply #58 on:** September 19, 2007, 06:20:34 PM »

IASA GUD NANG AIRPORT SA PANGLAO? the projct is just being pushed by pipol who has no investments in panglao> Na ba diay property nang mga ga push ana? agresibo sila kay dako dako baya ang mabahin sa ilang paglalo sa mga taga panglao. mubuto ra na ug mahimo na pud scandal ug di mabahin ug sakto. timan e ug masayop ba ko ana,

Sa may tagaan nila ug proteksyon sa panglao? mangutana lang ko. nay inevstment ang governor ug ang deputy secretary sa ATO ba na nga si toralba aron musagang ana? WALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !
Mao, pagbantay unta ang mga taga panglao niini kay basin unya asa sila marelocate.

PAET pud nang laluon ta sa atong kaugalingon nga teritoryo. gisahon sa atong kaugalingong mantika.

Asa naman kadung mga pobre ana sa panglao? gawas sa mga dato nga kagawad diha sama anang mga nangugat na diha sa konseho sa panglao nga wa may nahimo. kas kas ra gud ug kwarta.

huuuuuuuuuuuu. paet jud. pagka paet!!!!!!!

Sakto kaajo ka Dong! salamat for the concerned for all the people living there.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #59 on:** September 19, 2007, 11:38:28 PM »

we are not against progress.... and if bohol is promoting as an eco-tourism destination in the philippines, then we must preserve panglao. in fact, tourists are enjoying the usual transportation going to bohol because they have lots of experiences.

why boracay has lots of tourists despite the small airport (smaller than tagbilaran )? tourists will go not of the airport but of the place and people.

when i accompanied my japanese friends for a bohol tour, they liked the roads..but when they came back to bohol after 2 years and the roads were all paved, they missed the unpaved roads...but that is another story.

Hey, this gives me a good idea.

All tourists want to experience something new. Something they have not tried before. In Thailand, India or Sri Lanka, they offer "Elephant back jungle tours". Since we don't have elephant, we can use our very own Carabao. Yes, "Carabao back eco-tours".

Moreover, this is good to our diminishing carabao population due to modern farming technology. This gives them a new purpose, to re-populate.

Another thing is "cultural tourism package", where tourist will be hosted by villagers in their own bahay kubo, instead of staying in a hotel. I have seen this on TV, a tour company in Palawan is already making this.

This proves that we don't need to change ourselves to host such category of tourists.

What we need to improve is NOT infrastructure, but the Peace and Order situation, so tourist can freely camp anywhere they go.

However, if our target category is sex tourism, then we need to have luxurious hotels and casinos like Las Vegas.

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benelynne · « **Reply #60 on:** October 02, 2007, 06:13:42 PM »

I initially thought that an international airport would benefit Bohol's tourism industry.

But working on the translation of a tarsier documentary that will be shown on a primetime TV program in Japan, I believe that keeping Bohol a little out of reach, like this elusive creature, will enhance its mystique.

The government should focus its resources instead on protecting our unique flora and fauna, the green terrain, clean rivers and beaches. A Japanese biologist working on a research with a Filipino geologist is simply amazed by Bohol's biodiversity. Bohol should play up this natural advantage to attract tourists.

It seems to me that the planned airport is simply another presidential balato to our local politicians. I think a modest-size domestic airport like we have in Tagbilaran is sufficient. Since there are concerns about its aviation safety compliance, an alternative site should be found on Bohol mainland, if necessary. Wherever it will eventually be, we just have to upgrade the facilities. Since such an airport can accommodate chartered flights from overseas, I believe there is really no need for a huge infrastructure to mar Panglao's terrain and ecosystem.

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asianfairy · « **Reply #61 on:** October 05, 2007, 06:44:13 AM »

First, I want to welcome you in TB! Enjoy and nice having you here with us -Boholanos.

Exactly, you are right in regards to the environmental problem occurs if that so-called project push thru, but I think it is not a definite project yet. I am sure that there are some political backgrounds setting this plan (whatever it is....only the near concerned knows). In my opinion, this is useless one because Cebu International Airport is too near and the other means of transportations be effected the (Shipping Companies) for instance. The best is ....the Bohol tourism department must have first to concentrate to establish more promotions in connection with tourism and the political section must have to center more for the safety of their visitors. For what an Int'l airport for? The crimes in Bohol is quite propagating and this is one of the reasons why less foreigners are coming to visit our beautiful Bohol, isn't? Have a nice stay in Bohol!

Tama ka Bams.. So NO DEAL!

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lindy · « **Reply #62 on:** October 05, 2007, 12:28:47 PM »

Porbida nang Panglao International Airport, dugay raman na hangtod karon wala pay nahimo.Ana nako motuo ug naa na gyud, besides tama mo mga sano nga dagahan pang mas priority kay nianang Airport but its not bad unta kon duna. right! na hala tagay...

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willmerit · « **Reply #63 on:** October 06, 2007, 02:16:29 PM »

hala pasa na kay dia ko gahuwat.

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John · « **Reply #64 on:** October 08, 2007, 04:53:38 AM »

Tagbilaran airport the area is too small especially the runway, masmaganda pa siguro sa Baclayon nalang ang Int'l airport.

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Azile · « **Reply #65 on:** October 08, 2007, 05:04:55 AM »

Money has many faces. The problem comes when one wants to enrich himself at the expense of public funds.

Now, if it is a government project: the question is priority.

Let us remember that once you've built an airport, it becomes irreversible. It will be there forever.

Based on documents I've read, I know so well that this Panglao Airport lacks careful planning and feasibility study.

If a place is really good, people from all over the world will troop to the place with or without an airport.

Imagine this: you have an airport - but will there be airplanes that will land on your airport? Can you convince Japan Airlines, British Airways, Korean Airlines, etc to have direct flights from their country to Bohol? I'm not pessimistic here - I just want to be realistic.

Do you know that for an airline to put up one international flight it would cost the airline millions of dollars?

Airlines are not foolish to put up an international flight if there are no clamor for it, if there are no demands for it, if they are not sure that there would be steady stream of travelers.

What will happen to your airport if there are no airplanes?

Amen to that .

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udtohan · « **Reply #66 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:56:44 PM »

Just tell me, just answer one question, have you read or heard of any news that one airline demands an international airport in Bohol?

You cannot just build an airport without considering the side of the airline companies.

gansi baya

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John · « **Reply #67 on:** October 10, 2007, 11:04:31 AM »

ang mga tura-tura poydi na diha mo standby

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David Dennis · « **Reply #68 on:** October 15, 2007, 12:38:32 AM »

It seems more logical to put the airport in Tagbilaran where there is already noise and activity than to put it where we're advertising pristine beaches and quiet. That's going to drive away the very tourists we want to attract.

When I lived in Los Angeles, I met a group of people who lived near LAX, and they reported that the noise is just plain horrible. Of course this is with tens of thousands of takeoffs and landings a day, and I doubt Bohol will ever support such a volume. Nonetheless, it's worth noting that living by a busy airport is no picnic.

I would think the wisest policy would be to build a new airport, should one be needed, on the fringe of Tagbilaran and then buy enough land surrounding it for anticipated future expansion. Unless I really miss my bet, that would make far more sense and be a lot cheaper to boot.

D

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David Dennis · « **Reply #69 on:** October 15, 2007, 12:48:56 AM »

Okay, now I'm a bit better informed thanks to this link:

http://www.bohol.ph/article124.html?sid=ba341e93152dc3758937969cb5ed91f4

An airport of that magnitude is clearly never going to be economic on Bohol and definitely should not be situated anywhere near Panglao.

Does it really take $80 million to make an international airport? I would think you'd only need one international class runway and that shouldn't be all that expensive, no?

Buy the land for expansion but make the initial airport small and then it can grow as needed.

D

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willmerit · « **Reply #70 on:** October 15, 2007, 11:53:33 AM »

certainly, i think part of that 80 million will go for the kickbacks and/or pockets of politicians who are responsible for the realization of that project. correct me if am wrong, but i heard it before that in every project, there are some politicians who had a certain share (%) or part of it.

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David Dennis · « **Reply #71 on:** October 15, 2007, 02:38:07 PM »

Well, if you think about it, an International Airport is just this:

- A fancy building
- A runway, which is just a long concrete slab that's capable of holding a plane, painted with appropriate patterns, and a whole bunch of lights.
- Screening systems where security guys open everyone's baggage.
- A place for Customs to open everyone's baggage - cost covered with fancy building.
- Baggage claim

With the volume of actual facilities on Bohol, I would think one runway would be sufficient. You're only talking about a maximum of 1-2 international flights a day, right?

It's hard for me to imagine that you would need more than a $1 million building, a $1 million runway and a $1 million baggage handling system for an airport this simple. I would think that $3 million over 10 years could be paid for by Bohol. $80 million is really, really pushing it.

You do know about the new $650 million (ouch!) Manila airport terminal that has been sitting empty because nobody in Manila is willing to pay the bills for it, right?

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninoy_Aquino_International_Airport#Terminal_3

D

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John · « **Reply #72 on:** October 16, 2007, 04:05:45 AM »

certainly, i think part of that 80 million will go for the kickbacks and/or pockets of politicians who are responsible for the realization of that project. correct me if am wrong, but i heard it before that in every project, there are some politicians who had a certain share (%) or part of it.

your right the kickback will start from the lower level from Brgy councilor up to the highest level, another thing is the kickback from the contractors too.

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ehringgilaygeyt · « **Reply #73 on:** October 18, 2007, 09:50:08 PM »

Dayon kaayo nang airport, gaugod naman ganig pang daro. Na sayo-sayo man gani ang schedule of usa ka quarter. Angal mo nga ipa-improve nang karaan nga airport. Moingon mog walay airplano? Naay China og Russian Federation nga nanggi-hulat lag kanus-a mahuman nang airport. Unya gusto pa gyud ninyong padaghanon nang makwarta sa Cebu kay adto gihapon motugpa nang mga turista. Kahibaw ba mo nga sige kadako ang porsyento sa mga turista nga moanhi-ay dire sa Bohol kaysa Cebu? Mas maayong malahos nga himuon nang kaaran nga airport of hotel lugar nga mapuy-an sa mga mobisita dinhi kay mao gyud nay main reason nga nakapugong nganong mapugos, usbon nako, MAPUGOS ang mga turista og abang og kwarto sa Cebu kay wa pay kapuy-an samtang manglaag sila dire. Og bahin man galing sa kalikopan o kon "environment", PAGMATA NAMO UY!

Sige ang mga inisyatiba sa pag padayon sa pagpanindot og pag preserbar niini unya nagka daghan ang motabang pa. Og moingon mo nga naay mga kickbacks sa kon kinsa man galing aw realidad na samtang buhi pa ta. Apil nalang mog negosyo dire para kabahin pud mo. Sige lang mo angal. Unsa may Mabuhat o nabuhat ninyo aron ikatabang beh?... Kutob ramos sa tabi. Naay sinultian nga "ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS" (iningles to BAI)

Og mahuman na ang airport kamong mga naa sa laing nasud nga dili gusto sa airport sa Panglao o ba kaha sa laing bahin sa Bohol adto ramo sa Cebu tugpa ha kay mas sayon raman kaha ninyo ang airport sa Cebu. Apil pud tong wala motuo nga tukuron ang airport. Aw mao sad tingaling dili motuo sila sa airport kay dili man makakaya og pamilete sa pgsakay og "edro" mao nang negatibo ilang huna-huna ana. Daghan namong sumusunod ni Victor Dela Cerna...AMEN? ALIEN!!!

Naa pa gyuy idugang nga laing airport dinhi sa Bohol, Kanang naa sa Ubay ay... Ang turismo dili lang i-tutok sa South hasta pud sa Norte, sa Kasadpan, sa Silangan o kon asa nga lugar nga naay ika pasundayag nga turismo nga dili kumon.

Makalingaw pud ning mga mabasa nako sa dinhi ialbi na gyud anong mga supakero o ba kaha anang mga "cynical" (kon sa iningles pa) nga daghan wala mahibal-i unya magtu-o bitawng na moa ang ilang huna-huna. Unya pun-an pa gyud anang mga POWER RANGER . Kanang dili taga dinhi bitaw! Kanang tawgon og FOREIGNER. Mao na sila mga "Power Ranger".

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #74 on:** October 18, 2007, 10:14:41 PM »

one big aiport for international flights is i think very beneficial for the island of bohol...

what you should do best for tourist like me and for the rest???

nice roads and hotels...abd good place to hang out... coffee houses and bars etc...

akong banana (na diin 2x naman gyud sha ug biyahe but still he hates to fly) he likes to drive...

mao baja na di sha mo anha sa Pinas unless naay straight flight paingon sa Dipolog...

since di pa man gyud ko officially taga bojol, then i should get a small bird house in Bojol...

i am a flyer myself and found out that driving and stopping in some hotels is more enjoyable that everything else...

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Happy · « **Reply #75 on:** October 18, 2007, 10:44:00 PM »

i am a flyer myself and found out that driving and stopping in some hotels is more enjoyable that everything else...

Road trips

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John · « **Reply #76 on:** October 20, 2007, 07:14:59 AM »

gilaygeyt- I like your code name very unique ha ha ha, sige padayon sa imong novena maybe you are right.

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Dot (.) · « **Reply #77 on:** October 23, 2007, 05:26:01 PM »

For me, it is alright to air comments based on general knowledge, common sense, or even speculation. The hard question is, do we have the humility to change our views after we are provided a more detailed and concrete information on the project?

Just wondering.

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willmerit · « **Reply #78 on:** October 27, 2007, 03:07:51 PM »

certainly!

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John · « **Reply #79 on:** October 27, 2007, 03:52:01 PM »

The International Airport is heartily dedicated to the people of Bohol Republic, but wait how about our fast ferry boat, mawala na ang ilang kita kay ang mga tourist dili naman mo agi sa Cebu I'M rigth or wrong.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #80 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:52:52 PM »

You are right Ash, pero mo balhin na pod sila sa ilang route adto sa mga lugar nga way airport...

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #81 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:59:53 PM »

I don't think the fast ferries will be out of business. Remember that they cater not only to foreign and domestic tourists but also to Cebuanos, Boholanos, Negrenses, Siquijornons, etc. who may be doing business in these parts or students coming home for a vacation. There is still the inter-island demand for visiting relatives. The ferry boats will still be there.

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John · « **Reply #82 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:26:27 AM »

maybe you are right.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #83 on:** October 29, 2007, 11:27:21 AM »

I don't think the fast ferries will be out of business. Remember that they cater not only to foreign and domestic tourists but also to Cebuanos, Boholanos, Negrenses, Siquijornons, etc. who may be doing business in these parts or students coming home for a vacation. There is still the inter-island demand for visiting relatives. The ferry boats will still be there.

it is nice to know...

i dont want to hear some business closed kay way pasahero..

transportation is still in demand for the growing population...

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John · « **Reply #84 on:** October 29, 2007, 04:08:21 PM »

But my perception negative impact na sa mga fast ferry boat, because kung may International Airport nata sa Bohol may mga dagko na nga Airplane galing sa Manila or Cebu or Davao etc. nga poydi na maka landing direct to Bohol anytime , not like now nga mapilitan ka ug agi sa Cebu dahil very minimal lang ang mga airplane nga poydi mo landing sa Tagbilaran Airport unya gagmay pa gyud.

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-<GEC348>- · « **Reply #85 on:** October 29, 2007, 06:14:35 PM »

That will now depend on the price of the fare. If the plane ticket from Cebu to Panglao is higher, than the fast ferries, and you need to add to cost of land transportation from Panglao to the mainland, then there will still be a market for the fast ferries from Cebu to Tagbilaran.

The commuting public should have a choice which mode of transportation they will take.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #86 on:** October 29, 2007, 09:57:20 PM »

usa ra gyud kapaing-nan sa Big airport...

More...

more people..

more job...

more money to the province...

let think positive guys...

wala gyuy daku nga airport nga dili mo boom ang lugar...

hope for the best nalang ta...

pero expect for some worse situations like small time crimes and etc...

mao ra na...we want improvement in our counntry, right???

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Mari · « **Reply #87 on:** October 29, 2007, 11:00:15 PM »

usa ra gyud kapaing-nan sa Big airport...

More...

more people..

more job...

more money to the province...

let think positive guys...

wala gyuy daku nga airport nga dili mo boom ang lugar...

hope for the best nalang ta...

pero expect for some worse situations like small time crimes and etc...

mao ra na...we want improvement in our counntry, right???

cheers to that ms belle! i'm thinking positive for the province too, expecting the worst and hoping for the best.

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hazel · « **Reply #88 on:** October 29, 2007, 11:03:07 PM »

yeah, it could be. but i don't like it to be in panglao. it will spoil the tranquility of the island.

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Mari · « **Reply #89 on:** October 29, 2007, 11:23:01 PM »

yeah, it could be. but i don't like it to be in panglao. it will spoil the tranquility of the island.

same here. place it somewhere in Bohol. Gamay ra man tingali ang Panglao for an international airport

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John · « **Reply #90 on:** October 30, 2007, 08:38:20 AM »

your right basin malunod ang Panglao. pero ok nayon the important is we have an In't Airport.

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thegirlnextdoor · « **Reply #91 on:** November 04, 2007, 12:15:20 AM »

Since this topic was posted I would have to pretty much say that Bohol is already accepting International tourist straight from Korea to the Tagbilaran city domestic airport.
So would this not be considered already international?
Why just allow one country to be able to fly directly in here to Bohol it does not seem fair just to allow one country when other tourist from Australia, Europe, and Germany come here as well.
The airport facility is already becoming expanded and they already built a very modern and up to date new control tower recently.
It's great the tourist are comming here as they are now.
Panglao is not the only place to travel too here in Bohol.
There are many naturally and beautifuler and wonderfull sights to see in Bohol.
Why limit the tourist and concentrate them to one area of Bohol?
Tagbilaran City Airport is a good jump off place and allows the tourist a choice of where to head off too instead of being taken to a resort automatically in Panglao.
I have also many new and locally owned resorts sprouting up everywhere in the past two or three years.
I am to the point of saying keep it the way it is.

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thegirlnextdoor · « **Reply #92 on:** November 04, 2007, 12:19:08 AM »

Correction to the above stement.

Last sentence should read; "I have also seen many new and locally owned resorts sprouting up everywhere in the past two or three years."

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thegirlnextdoor · « **Reply #93 on:** November 04, 2007, 12:21:43 AM »

"Statement">>>>>>>>>>>>>>(he he he I need to not drink Pale Pilsen when writing in Tubag!) Just joking!
Srry for the typos.

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Happy · « **Reply #94 on:** November 04, 2007, 03:01:39 AM »

No problem precious, everyone does a typos when writing especially if we writes fast..

So do you like pilsen?

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benelynne · « **Reply #95 on:** November 06, 2007, 06:34:35 PM »

Since this topic was posted I would have to pretty much say that Bohol is already accepting International tourist straight from Korea to the Tagbilaran city domestic airport.
So would this not be considered already international?
Why just allow one country to be able to fly directly in here to Bohol it does not seem fair just to allow one country when other tourist from Australia, Europe, and Germany come here as well.
The airport facility is already becoming expanded and they already built a very modern and up to date new control tower recently.
It's great the tourist are comming here as they are now.
Panglao is not the only place to travel too here in Bohol.
There are many naturally and beautifuler and wonderfull sights to see in Bohol.
Why limit the tourist and concentrate them to one area of Bohol?
Tagbilaran City Airport is a good jump off place and allows the tourist a choice of where to head off too instead of being taken to a resort automatically in Panglao.
I have also many new and locally owned resorts sprouting up everywhere in the past two or three years.
I am to the point of saying keep it the way it is.

Hi Precious,

I like it when you're upbeat... We all basically share the same thoughts and sentiments about the place we love.

While we should not throw caution to the wind, let's try to stay calm, composed and cheerful in every situation. Our positive disposition is as important as a nice international airport in welcoming more tourists to Bohol.

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Mari · « **Reply #96 on:** November 06, 2007, 07:38:34 PM »

mr benelyne, naa ka sa tagbilaran? murag nakakita man kog look alike nimo ganina sa ICM. napalingi gud ko kay daw familiar man

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benelynne · « **Reply #97 on:** November 06, 2007, 07:48:39 PM »

hi mari,

daghan man look-alike ang mga sinaw ug ulo. don't worry mari, i will not sneak into tagbi without your knowledge. might try a different look to surprise you.

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thegirlnextdoor · « **Reply #98 on:** November 10, 2007, 02:16:20 AM »

Thanks i am always upbeat.

But when i see biases going on in here I am not intimidated to speak out about it.

As a judge here for several events I have noticed it and have been told being biased is a part of the culture.
Just not a part of mine.
My door is open to anyone who wants to air a constructive and a legitimate feeling.
But when people have to take things personally and start ganging up on people personally then some one has the right to fight for what should be right.
In here many persons get side tracked and onto some egotistical outburst as if what things said in here are about them personally.
If you feel your a great positive contributor then no need to be offensive as I have seen in this web site over and over again.
Even I am up beat the PAK PAK is gamay like some judges do to great talents here competing they give small acknowledgement and low scores if they do not know you and the performer is great, as someone popular the judges will judge for popularity.
It is normal here.
I know I am intelligent I am told that often in a day time.
I am sort of like Atty. Victor Delaserna carass and do not beat around the bush.
If your mean time after time it is only normal for that person to show back the same attitude as they are getting.
I have plenty of patience, but as you all know you can push some one so far or your going to get it.
When I get to the point most do not like it.
We call it a bait some one wants to keep on baiting you along until the point it is time to bite the worm.
Some like it when the worm bites as they feel it is a way of getting attention and not in a nice way.
Baiting for negatives. Something we learn in 8th grade socail sciences classes.

I have seen Philippine persons commenting in here and saying whats on their mind do the particulars group of same people harassing me harass them as well?
No! I wonder why that is?
Does it have something to do that I am not a brown skinned Boholana?
I have allot of friends and I know who they are, and in fact they say to me that they wished more persons were like me to the point and straight forward about what is the real life's story going on.
Thank you for the proper compliment it takes a real person now a days to even know how to give a compliment.

I give a compliment now a days to someone they act ashamed and do not know how to react, maybe they are not use to someone being nice to them?
Here someone would rather knock you down so you always regress instead of progress the Philippine persons call it "Crab Mentality" here.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #99 on:** November 10, 2007, 02:30:30 AM »

mr benelyne, naa ka sa tagbilaran? murag nakakita man kog look alike nimo ganina sa ICM. napalingi gud ko kay daw familiar man

Maria, tulibagdeks na sad d shu-ems!!!

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