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« on: November 27, 2012, 01:47:00 PM »
By TJ Burgonio
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This Palace official suspects one reason for the lack of quorum in the House of Representatives during deliberations on the reproductive health (RH) bill: Reelectionist lawmakers fear provoking their parish priests.

In the countryside, there is such a thing as a “Catholic vote,” and pro-RH lawmakers would rather absent themselves from the sessions than become the object of attacks from the pulpit in the run-up to the May 2013 elections, according to Secretary Manuel Mamba.

Mamba, head of the Presidential Legislative Liaison Office, on Sunday said lawmakers were “fearful” of provoking their parish priests by appearing in the deliberations, much more by voting for the controversial measure.

“If you’re a politician, you stay out of trouble. They (the clergy) are not even the enemy. Why provoke them? By voting for the measure, you’re provoking the Catholic hierarchy,” Mamba said in a phone interview.

“The elections are near. You don’t want to create enemies. In local politics, there is a Catholic vote, especially in areas where the clergy are very influential on their flock. If the clergy are popular, they have the pulpit. They can do it every Sunday,” he added.

So, for some pro-RH lawmakers with their eyes on the midterm elections, the option is “to absent themselves” from the deliberations, said Mamba, whose office acts as middleman between Malacañang and Congress in the choice of the legislative agenda.

Lack of quorum

Mamba said President Aquino was aware of such dynamics in local politics. Being a former lawmaker himself in  Cagayan province, Mamba said he “fully understood” where the lawmakers were coming from.

“It would have been much easier if it were put to a vote not too close to the elections,” he said.

The campaign for the midterm elections begins  in mid-February.

The Church fiercely opposes the measure. After bold predictions by House leaders that the bill would be approved, plenary debates on the measure have bogged down for lack of quorum.

Lawmakers either skip sessions or leave after the roll call. Majority Leader Neptali Gonzales II said most of the absentees were supporters of the measure.

Abortion, promiscuity

The RH bill would provide couples with information on family planning approaches, including modern contraception methods that the Church opposes. It would also widen reproductive health education in schools and government health centers.

Church officials oppose the measure, saying it might promote abortion as well as promiscuity. They consider some birth control pills as abortifacient.

The health department supports the bill, saying it would reduce maternal and child deaths in the Philippines.

The President has not issued a fresh call for his allies in the House to bring the measure to a vote.

Time to vote

“The President has said his piece,” Mamba said, referring to Mr. Aquino’s Aug. 6 caucus with the lawmakers. “He has given orders for the lawmakers to be present, have a quorum and vote on it. He will not impose whatever position they will have. What’s important is they vote on it.”

After the caucus, the lawmakers voted overwhelmingly to terminate debates. But with the lack of quorum, no amendment has been introduced.

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said the lawmakers had yet to discuss with the President the matter of certifying the measure as urgent. Otherwise, Malacañang was leaving its approval up to the lawmakers, she said.

In the 283-member House, the pro-RH proponents have a slight edge over the anti-RH lawyers. Some congressional sources say it’s possible more anti-RH lawmakers than pro-RH proponents would show up if a vote is forced now.

‘Ripe for a vote’

“Our problem in the House is membership. Our problem in the Senate is the leadership,” Mamba said.

Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile and Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III are opposed to a counterpart measure in the chamber. Unlike in the House, the bill has better chances of getting approved in the Senate, with more senators backing it, according to Mamba.

“I think the RH bill is ripe for a vote in the Senate,” Sen. Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. said on dzBB radio. “The issues have become tedious since I sponsored my own version as a congressman. All of us are ready, win or lose.”

Marcos said Senators Miriam Defensor-Santiago and Pia Cayetano, the main authors of the Senate bill calling for a national policy on reproductive health and population, had agreed it was time to put it to a vote whatever the outcome.

“I will support the bill,” Marcos said.

But he said the 2013 elections would play a factor in the outcome of the vote.
“I’ve heard that some of the authors [in the House] have withdrawn their support because of the election. That’s the reality in our politics. If you are candidates, it’s really difficult to oppose the Church,” Marcos said. With reports from Gil C. Cabacungan and Inquirer Research

Originally posted: 6:10 pm | Sunday, November 25th, 2012

source: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/312867/lawmakers-skip-rh-bill-debates-to-avoid-catholic-church-backlash-in-2013-polls

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 01:53:34 PM »
Good! The Holy Mother Church has an important duty to remind these men of power to remember that they are, too, mortal! 8)

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 02:22:19 PM »

ha ha ha ha! ikaw gyod oy.

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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2012, 02:24:19 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 05:07:04 AM »
Thank goodness it passed yippee the country is on its way to getting better....Educate first, get church out of private matters, decide on yourself being it is your body, many have tattoo and God did not born your body to be Tattooed he born your body as a temple to pure clean and unscathed...or let alone poisoned did the religious church goers heed to these teachings by God and his churches... No, not all so why should man (male) decide on how a woman should treat her body let alone keep on pumping babies into her stomach for his own few second of pleasure while her body has no breaks and is weak and at risk of fetal deformation and defects, or mother and fetus are at risk of death....Or born a child into a place of no home, no food, barely clothes to put on their backs, sounds so far and smart to me....Philippines is not exactly a place offering a job of opportunity here...Many Philippine persons run outside of Philippines and some even over-stay on their VISA as OFW to make more money to send home to their families here... Life is not easy when crisis is here..and life is so hard so unfair to that child to have a whole lot of hell of nothing to survive on...What about your bayut's here..that also breaks down on the population...Bible says if a man lays beside another man its bawal no one complains about that here??? If you love your wife then love the RH bill it is not pro abortion, it is all about educating families to have a safer time in planning a family instead of either mother and baby dying at birth or teaches spacing for lessor chance of birth defects...If your anti RH then you do not care if a baby lives or dies if not educated or your not so familiar with the law and only listen to your church being so negative about a bill that is so very good instead of looking into the bill itself...

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2013, 02:49:54 AM »
Kay napasar naman ning RH Bill sa niaging Disyembre, magsugod na ko ug sunod sa funding, effects on the population growth ug improvements in the health care services. Gipromote man ni nga maprovide daw sa RH Bill, puwes, atong tan-awon.


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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2013, 02:52:40 AM »

Imo nang point of view Ms. Jellybean. Thank you for pointing out but I beg to disagree. Anyway, nidaug naman unsaon naman lang. Sa Supreme Court na lamang magdiga.

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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 08:33:23 AM »
oh, yes, isn't it obvious that the big multinational pharmaceutical lobby is stronger than the catholic church lobby?  isn't it strange that our country is going into this while some states in the u.s. have recently done away with similar laws? 

if we must call this bill our road to education, were we really uneducated before the bill was passed? 

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