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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 11:45:03 AM »
May the islamofascists be given justice that they rightly deserve.

Unleash the AFP on these murderers.

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2008, 02:43:47 PM »
Mostly their fellow muslims also the victims of this atrocities not only the Christians. This is senseless killings of civilians.

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 03:43:19 PM »

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 10:35:26 PM »
They kill innocent civilians in the name of their own autonomy? They kill and bomb in order to secure their own lands; even if some of the people in those lands are not even muslim.

Such a bloody and violent people.

What Manila should do is to make more Christian Filipinos migrate to Mindanao.

Why should 90% of the Philippines (Christian) have to give into the demands of the few (5% muslim). No way!

Majority Rules.

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 09:15:50 AM »
to all, sa tv gabii, ang gropong ilaga, mga Christian warriors nga mo kaon ug tawong muslim na buhi na pud. ang sikat nila nga lider niadto si manero nga gikaon ang atay sa pari. mura mag ni balik napud tas 70's....... hooo Ginoo si Gloria ang naka angin ani!!! lami toruson ning toguja!!!

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2008, 12:05:10 PM »
As tragic as this situation is, one must retain some kind of responsibility and decency regarding these terrorist separatists.

Though the islamofascit group known as the MILF bomb and kill innocent civilians, the Armed Forces of the Philippines must not target the innocent muslim populations in the south. As grave as the actions of the MILF are, they do not represent all muslims in the country baya. These individuals are the die hard radical ones that are similar to the JI terrorists of Indonesia-Malaysia.

The AFP must be careful to engage in muslim-christian dialogue and maintain peace as to evade pouring salt on an open wound.

Pursue the MILF and their supporters only. Not the entire muslim group.

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2008, 12:53:09 PM »
dpat lang. pero ang problema ang ilaga. kuyaw kaajo ning mga tawhana kay mo kaon nig karne sa patay nga MILF. well, i think this is a CIA program sauna para ang gyera magsugod sa grassroot level.  amercano ang nagmugna ani just like in principle sa CAFGU. Correct me if im wrong!

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2008, 01:16:54 AM »
hmm Ilaga anti muslim? then why did they kill the priest man? (no clue YET)

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2008, 02:29:46 PM »
kiam, gikaon ang atay sa pare ni manero being a communist suspect!

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2008, 04:51:48 PM »
to kiamoy: manero is not anti muslim. he is a cannibal.

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2008, 11:29:49 PM »
ok..thanks bolingitandbuwad.. grabeha

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2008, 12:04:34 AM »
I agree. He's really a cannibal.

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2008, 08:15:01 AM »
well, if i do remember it rayt. ang "ilaga" mao niy mga Christian nga misokow sa mga muslim insurgents sa south sa decada 70.  ang hinungdan, usa ka Christian nga dalaga ang gi rape sa mga muslim separatist ug gi potul ang soso, sa  mao nga sa ka ngilngig nga pagpatay na mugna ang "ilaga". ang contra pud nila adtong panahuna nga mga muslim "baracuda" ang ilang grupo. kinan-anay kono ni sila sa karne sa usag usa. sa taliwala niini, bakbakan pud ang military vs mnlf ni nur misuari. hinumdum ko usa ka army nga taga jagna ang namatay adton panahuna land mine ang hinungdan.

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2008, 03:18:35 PM »
you seem to have imbibed your history correctly, buwadsanga. back then, everyone was skinning everyone else whoever was dead. the ilaga ate the milf and vice versa. i remember hearing stories of soldiers developing the habit of doing mopping operations after an encounter by slicing off ears or peckers of the dead the stringing them together as a collection and worn around the neck as amulet for some, and as trophy for others... really the war in mindanao is quite complicated and may result in a free for all if questionable activities are not monitored closely and dealt with immediately... but i agree 110% that those milf troops responsible for the attack on unarmed civilians in north cotabato and lanao del norte must be brought to justice. they are the ones that triggered this violence to begin with. the civilians (ilaga included) who expressed their desire to arm themselves were simply reacting to the attacks made by the milf on their previouysly peaceful villages especially that the afp is only reactive in nature. meaning, soldiers are deployed only AFTER a village has been raided and innocent civilians shot like free-range chicken by raiding milf insurgents.

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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2008, 04:45:12 AM »
The tactics and history of the MNLF, MILF, Abu Sayaff is barbarous and totally inhumane.

I wish the Spanish Colonial Government went further deeper into southern Mindanao and continued its Christian Evangelism in the south and not have abated in the late 18th century.

Strategically speaking, it would have been better.

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2008, 09:54:29 AM »
lor, di kaya sa mga Kastila kay ni dut nas kahiladman ang muslim religion sa mindanao adtong panahuna. in fact misukow ang mga muslim sa spaniards. adtong panahuna nag rebelde na sila.

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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2008, 10:16:01 AM »
Buwad, during the late 18th century, Spain had territorial holdings in Formosa as well as in some parts of India as well as had claims in the Mollacas (Spice Islands; Malaya) as during this time parts of the Mollacas was under Portuguese control, and Spain at this time considered Portugal as an 'independent' province of the Empire.

I refuse to accept the fact that the Spanish, who all to eradicated the Aztecs and the Incans (whose populations were in the tens of millions and who had a far more advanced civilization than the Malays) would have been impeded by muslims in the south. And I doubt it would have been too difficult since the population in Mindanao during this time, as documented by Spanish episcopacy was not even in the millions, but in the hundreds of thousands.

The reason for a greater Moro resistance was the fact that Spain, during the late 18th century was in the verge of an monarchical change, King Charles IV, Emperor of the Spanish Empire from 1788 till 1808 adopted a political regimen called Pax Hispanicana Abstantes, which focused more on diplomatic peace and conservancy. Spain, at this time, reached its zenith in power; with control of almost all of North America (albeit the lower half), all of central America, all of South America (aside from Portuguese controlled Brasilia; though Spain considered Portugal and its possessions as part of the Paternal Spanish Empire by right of power), possessions in Africa, territorial rights in India and claims in the pacific, including the Royal Colony of Las Islas de Felipe. The Empire controlled the largest land forces in the entire world at the time, with the rival of the French; the Empire's Navy was unprecedented, and would not be ecclipsed for another quarter of a century by the British.

It was Charles IV's adopting of a conservancy tactic that led to the demise of the Envanglism in Mindanao; as his predecessor, Emperor Ferdinand VI had implemented decades before. Ferdinand VI was one who was as imperialistic and militant in expansion as that his ancestor, Philip II the Great (who our country was named after).

Had the Spaniards continued militant christian evangelism in the south; even as to strategically conquor Borneo and extend its christian evangelism in that island, this problem we have of militant islam wouldn't even have manifested.

It was Spanish Christian Evangelism that converted Luzon, which was Muslim may I add, to a Christian island. And it was Spanish Christian Evangelism that propelled the Visayas (Bohol Included) into a Christian seat.

The Only reason why Mindanao remains the way it is (a large muslim presence) was because of the change of policies enacted by King Charles IV.

Suffice to say, I do not believe that a group of Muslim misfits were able to stave back the might of the Spanish Empire, which quite frankly feared no military force in this earth for almost 3-4 centuries.

The following are the Spanish Monarchs that I discussed above:


Emperor Ferdinand VI, Emperor of the Spanish Empire. Of the Bourbon Dynasty.
This man was a militant Emperor and pursued active conquest. His diplomatic skill was similar to his ancestor, Philipp II the Great. He was raised during the late mid-late 17th century under the notion of Monarchical Absolutism; that the power of the King of Spain came directly from GOD himself.


King Charles IV of Spain. A far more 'laxed' monarch as compared to his predecessors. Charles IV was educated under the notion of European Enlightenment and the concept of Universalism, Fraternity, Egalitarianism. Far less militant as his predecessors, I dare say. His policies manifested this in the Philippines.



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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2008, 10:19:30 AM »
laktud pagka sulti. wa kadut ang mga spaniards sa mga taga tausog ug maranaw!

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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2008, 10:32:59 AM »
There are always historical premises that led to precedent. I like to analyze things from a macroscopic level, Buwad. The Maranao and Tausug may have been something to be marveled at but their populations didn't even reach million stage during the late 18th century.

Their resiliency, was augmented by the fact that not enough Christian missionaries were sent to Mindanao. History declares that hundreds and thousands of Spanish priests were sent to Luzon, the Visayas, as well as northern Mindanao; but from the texts that I have, it indicates little if any went further into Mindanao.

And it correlates with the time period and the policies enacted by Charles IV. Who, may I add, was a weak King. It was under his reign that the seeds of 'independency' sprouted throughout the Latin World; leading to revolutions in the Americas. It makes it a positive correlation to the Philippines, translating in a weaker evangelistic activity: focusing more on economic advances and developing what was already conquered. 

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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2008, 01:59:26 PM »
kahit anong rason pa o historical text na basehan mo. hindi naka penitrate ang spaniards sa diehard muslims sa mindanao. ni alsa sila mi sokow sila ug hangtud karon!!!

dinhing dapita ko mo bililb sa kagahi sa ulo sa mga maranaw ug tausugs!

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Re: MILF Killing Innocent, Defenseless Filipinos
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2008, 06:44:03 PM »
This is very tragic, yet the President capitalizes on this issue to distract the nation from the rampant corruption on her administration. how long will she hang on her power?

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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2008, 08:18:49 AM »
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